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Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:20 pm
How were the board expecting us to fare this season given the budget slashing? Our performance this season is as much on them as it is Morison.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:23 pm
Plenty of people saying that after signing 17 players that SM should have been given time.
Well I watched the Birmingham game in a bar in Majorca and was thrilled with the performance and fans from other clubs telling me we were a top 6 side no probs. Then we go a couple of games where we can't do anything right, then we tear 'Boro a new arse in the first half, and spend the second half with our backs to the wall, and don't turn up yesterday, this is team selection, tactics, formation and motivation. SM didn't come across as someone with man management skills and that's a big part of being a boss no matter what job you're in. I reckon even given more time the outcome would have been the same, best to make a change now.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:23 pm
llan bluebird wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Being a football manager must be the most precarious occupation? 18mnths is the average tenure for the job.

It pays well though
Any guesses on his annual salary ?
My guess would be 750k
Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:24 pm
I’m split on this …disliked his blaming the players and no self responsibility …tinkering the team….but not his fault about the striker debacle …and enjoyed some of the football
However surely sunk his own ship with the ‘performance over results ‘ comments…..absolute nonsense when u don’t have points in the bag!
5 more games fir me than decide
Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:31 pm
All this 17 new players, new style, it a football club not nuclear fusion.
Of the first teamers only Adams is stepping up from a lower league so the championship is not new
These are full-time professionals, not part-timers holding down a 40 hour day job
We have a recruitment department which obviously SM was part of but also gave us NG and Wintle as well as Giles
The new manager won't get a pre-season or 10 games
I had no idea what SM actually wanted to do, he dramatically changed from game to game. Last season was hit and miss but wasn't his players, these are, so impose your style but it's all about stopping the other team.
Cardiff City is a complicated club, led by an experienced owner (he is) from afar. We are skint, as is everybody, but we owe a club 15 million quid. Then there is the Welsh capital element. Its needs someone who knows how to handle all of that. It was no job for a rookie in the first place
Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:34 pm
llan bluebird wrote:Jimmy Floyd is on telly.......
Available without having to pay compensation....check.
Lower league failure....check
Willing to work for buttons.....probably
You could be on to something!
Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:36 pm
Something_Blue wrote:One has to assume the board have an idea who to appoint as otherwise this sacking is bizarre. Maybe it was always a case of review after 10 games but to assume these signings and likes of Watters up front for majority was going to be anything other than a disaster is crazy
I wouldn't bet on it.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:44 pm
You're not the only ones to sack your manager today. Hartlepool have just fired Paul Hartley after just eleven matches in charge. So that's five vacancies in the ninety-two and I would expect more in the coming week.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 1:45 pm
Did say yesterday he was on a yellow card- did not think a red. Felt he was a manager better suited to the under 21. Lacked able to convey intensity and will to win on a consistent basis to the players.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:03 pm
One of the most disliked City managers of modern times
Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:03 pm
The correct decision but as I have posted before it will be another cheap fix with somebody appointed to keep us in the division.
Morison was arrogant and out of his depth,the only surprise is the speed it happened.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:11 pm
When he boarded the coach he and his coaching set up were angry, after the game, I had a feeling he was sacked right there.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:14 pm
Ibby wrote:When he boarded the coach he and his coaching set up were angry, after the game, I had a feeling he was sacked right there.
They could have been angry that the team either didn't understand or follow the game plan, assuming the game plan wasn't to amble around the pitch and forget that goals get you points not performance
Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:18 pm
Ibby wrote:When he boarded the coach he and his coaching set up were angry, after the game, I had a feeling he was sacked right there.
Perhaps somebody had dropped something on his white trainers and made them dirty!
I bet that would really piss him off.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:28 pm
Ok….So we were in such a great position, loads of players out of contract on big waves, a huge opportunity for someone to free up some wages and totally rebuild a new squad to suit the way you want to move the club forward. We place that trust in Steve Morison………and we sack him after 9 games?????
Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:37 pm
I am as shocked as anyone but am hoping this is a master stroke by the board. If we'd given him another 5/10 games our season could be over before Xmas. Or worse still battling relegation.
Never disliked Morrison, kept us up last season and cleared the decks so thankful for that.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:38 pm
Way too early this decision the manager was building a new team and style which takes time. If at Xmas I could understand. Please no return to shit long ball bollux
Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:45 pm
boyo1927 wrote:Way too early this decision the manager was building a new team and style which takes time. If at Xmas I could understand. Please no return to shit long ball bollux
From the statement released I take it the board are going to bring in someone with a ball playing philosophy. Surely must have someone lined up
Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:46 pm
I’m split on this …disliked his blaming the players and no self responsibility …tinkering the team….but not his fault about the striker debacle …and enjoyed some of the football
However surely sunk his own ship with the ‘performance over results ‘ comments…..absolute nonsense when u don’t have points in the bag!
5 more games fir me than decide
Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:02 pm
We are only 4 points better off than Huddersfield and they sacked their manager. I sincerely hope there has been some quiet discussions behind the scenes with other managers already and this is not totally knee jerk. It is the right decision though as I have seen enough to know hes not right. For me his biggest failure was an inability to motivate or get a reaction from his team. The derby failures underline this. He does deserve credit for keeping us up and generally recruiting well though. I wish him well even if he came across a touch arrogant in interviews.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:08 pm
I think this is the right call ,inconsistencies were down to his tactics and tinkering, scot Parker, Nathan Jones, Sean Dyce would be great appointments
Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:30 pm
gwentbluebirds wrote:llan bluebird wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Being a football manager must be the most precarious occupation? 18mnths is the average tenure for the job.

It pays well though
Any guesses on his annual salary ?
My guess would be 750k
Originally reported as c.£200k pa, Lee
A big reason he was given a chance and on a one year contract, so by our standards (relatively) cheap to get rid
Doesn't look good for the next incumbent if that's the case. We desperately need a seasoned hand who still has his eye on the modern ball, if money is the sole criteria of appointment...
Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:34 pm
wez1927 wrote:I think this is the right call ,inconsistencies were down to his tactics and tinkering, scot Parker, Nathan Jones, Sean Dyce would be great appointments
With you, Wez...
Happy to have gone a few more games to give him a chance but in reality the signs were there early on this season
Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:37 pm
Don’t know the facts but get the feeling this is one huge mistake. Very disappointing.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:40 pm
Sven wrote:wez1927 wrote:I think this is the right call ,inconsistencies were down to his tactics and tinkering, scot Parker, Nathan Jones, Sean Dyce would be great appointments
With you, Wez...
Happy to have gone a few more games to give him a chance but in reality the signs were there early on this season

Every time we won a game the next game he changed formation and lost, that says to me he doesn't know what he's doing and doesn't know how to play his best team .
Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:42 pm
I believe SM did a great job as the spokesman for the summer recruitment as this is a much better squad than he inherited from Mick.
His inexperience has shone through lately as he has been like Mike Bassett on Speed. 432, 4231, 433, 541,343 . I said in a post this morning i am not sure he has found himself as a manager and doesn't know how to do it under the spotlight of a championship club, especially one as unstable as Cardiff City.
Whatever job you have you want your boss to be consistent and supportive and i doubt he gives that vibe. I know a lot of older tougher lads think that is a snowflake view and I think SM is in that camp, but you need to manage in the environment you are in.
I was brought up in 90's and "Consistency of purpose" was one of the main corporate buzzwords, IMO nothing has changed, SM didn't really believe in anything strong enough for me to say he is xxxxxxx.
For example Warnock is 433 no tossing around at the back, get the ball to the wingers ASAP, man for man marking.
Malky 4141 highly structured (boring), keep it tight and strangle the living daylight (joy) out of the game.
DJ 442 try to outscore the opposition
Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:45 pm
Sven wrote:gwentbluebirds wrote:llan bluebird wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Being a football manager must be the most precarious occupation? 18mnths is the average tenure for the job.

It pays well though
Any guesses on his annual salary ?
My guess would be 750k
Originally reported as c.£200k pa, Lee
A big reason he was given a chance and on a one year contract, so by our standards (relatively) cheap to get rid
Doesn't look good for the next incumbent if that's the case. We desperately need a seasoned hand who still has his eye on the modern ball, if money is the sole criteria of appointment...
Totally agree with the season hand and i am surprised at £200K a year until I wake up and realize I don't know anyone on half that much a year.
Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:46 pm
llan bluebird wrote:I believe SM did a great job as the spokesman for the summer recruitment as this is a much better squad than he inherited from Mick.
His inexperience has shone through lately as he has been like Mike Bassett on Speed. 432, 4231, 433, 541,343 . I said in a post this morning i am not sure he has found himself as a manager and doesn't know how to do it under the spotlight of a championship club, especially one as unstable as Cardiff City.
Whatever job you have you want your boss to be consistent and supportive and i doubt he gives that vibe. I know a lot of older tougher lads think that is a snowflake view and I think SM is in that camp, but you need to manage in the environment you are in.
I was brought up in 90's and "Consistency of purpose" was one of the main corporate buzzwords, IMO nothing has changed, SM didn't really believe in anything strong enough for me to say he is xxxxxxx.
For example Warnock is 433 no tossing around at the back, get the ball to the wingers ASAP, man for man marking.
Malky 4141 highly structured (boring), keep it tight and strangle the living daylight (joy) out of the game.
DJ 442 try to outscore the opposition
Agree ,morison I believe was his own worst enemy changing it and showed his inexperience
Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:11 pm
Well I for one have gone from, looking forward to watching Cardiff play to now dreading what we can become.
I know results haven’t been great and performances on times haven’t been good either but I think the majority of the football has been a good watch and I for once enjoyed actually seeing our style of football when not winning.
Must be something going on behind the scenes as this seems bizzare
Sun Sep 18, 2022 5:02 pm
Sven wrote:wez1927 wrote:I think this is the right call ,inconsistencies were down to his tactics and tinkering, scot Parker, Nathan Jones, Sean Dyce would be great appointments
With you, Wez...
Happy to have gone a few more games to give him a chance but in reality the signs were there early on this season

Didn’t you say in another thread that you felt results were soon to come under Morison? Now it is suddenly the right call. The board must be deluded to think that this squad was going anywhere other than lower mid table after 10 games.
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