UPDATED: BBC says NML was banned for Cocaine & not just once

I have no problem with anyone taking drugs, it is their choice and their free will to do so.

However, if you are governed by an employer, and contract, that states you cannot do that, it is a totally different ball game.

In this paticular case it was not just the employer, it was the sports governing body who bans these things, obviously because they can be deemed as sport enhancing and lead to an unlevel playing field.

If you make a mistake you should take the punishment, realise your error, and not f**k up again. To make the same mistake twice in the same season borders on stupidity, or even worse addiction.

How anyone can not back the club on their correct decision is absolutely beyond my comprehension.

Not that you would expect me to but I cannot concur with your assertion that you have (quote) "no problem with anyone taking drugs..."

I guess they don't cause problems, addictions, destroy lives and families, cost £millions in reparations, whilst creating crime and misery to those who can least cope with it, do they?

But you are correct that the club should be supported in their decision; NML is no loss to Cardiff City FC

I appreciate some, including former manager Neil Harris to his credit, offered their support but he fell well below the professional standards expected of him. He let himself, his family, his employers and (seemingly) the bulk of its supporters down

Cardiff City FC has moved on and so has Mendez-Laing; and so must we

I have no problem with anyone taking drugs, it is their choice and their free will to do so.

However, if you are governed by an employer, and contract, that states you cannot do that, it is a totally different ball game.

In this paticular case it was not just the employer, it was the sports governing body who bans these things, obviously because they can be deemed as sport enhancing and lead to an unlevel playing field.

If you make a mistake you should take the punishment, realise your error, and not f**k up again. To make the same mistake twice in the same season borders on stupidity, or even worse addiction.

How anyone can not back the club on their correct decision is absolutely beyond my comprehension.

the reason the 2nd ban was so short was because it was not deemed sports enhancing....
taking anything the day before his 4th game back after a ban could well mean addiction ..

Why was he given anomity for so long?
He, should have been named and shamed

If this was his first time I would have said the club is being way to hasty to rip up his contract. The fact he had done it before, was warned about it, and the club supported him by paying his wages, just shows what kind of person he is. I was big fan of NML, and Warnock for all he done while he was here, but I definitely have less respect for the player, and Warnock now for taking him on. Maybe I just feel it’s a bitter pill to swallow, with our former manager and player at another club.

No dude you are right NW knew and has sought out a player that has previous.

City absolutely did the right thing.

Trouble is neither Warnock nor the junkie show any shame, remorse or regret.

The money train rolls on.

Disgusting.

Yeah definitely not showing any remorse It makes you wonder if he was happy to sit out for a few months knowing another offer would be around the corner.

Why was he given anomity for so long?
He, should have been named and shamed

There are reasons but ranks have been closed by all parties to a large extent

I have no problem with anyone taking drugs, it is their choice and their free will to do so.

However, if you are governed by an employer, and contract, that states you cannot do that, it is a totally different ball game.

In this paticular case it was not just the employer, it was the sports governing body who bans these things, obviously because they can be deemed as sport enhancing and lead to an unlevel playing field.

If you make a mistake you should take the punishment, realise your error, and not f**k up again. To make the same mistake twice in the same season borders on stupidity, or even worse addiction.

How anyone can not back the club on their correct decision is absolutely beyond my comprehension.

I’m not having a pop mate you’re own words you don’t have a problem with anyone taking drugs would you apply that to your own Children taken them .????
Secondly a good mate of mine had his house burgaled in court culprit used excuse he was desperate to fund his drug addiction
I DO have problems with drug taking

People make mistakes and everyone deserves to move on.

I think the Club were right to stick with him the first time but they were left with no choice with him getting caught the second time so soon after and made the right choice. I think Skid is correct that suggests possible addiction.

It's a shame that we as a Club are the ones to have lost out but let's just hope the boy can conquer his demons and live a happy life.

Good Luck Nathaniel on your journey, let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

People make mistakes and everyone deserves to move on.

I think the Club were right to stick with him the first time but they were left with no choice with him getting caught the second time so soon after and made the right choice. I think Skid is correct that suggests possible addiction.

It's a shame that we as a Club are the ones to have lost out but let's just hope the boy can conquer his demons and live a happy life.

Good Luck Nathaniel on your journey, let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

Well said RV

We're all entitled to opinions but could we stop suggesting this person has 'made a mistake.' The only mistake was getting caught. It's probably not just while at City either , I seem to recall he was sacked by Peterborough for breach of contract.

I have no problem with anyone taking drugs, it is their choice and their free will to do so.

However, if you are governed by an employer, and contract, that states you cannot do that, it is a totally different ball game.

In this paticular case it was not just the employer, it was the sports governing body who bans these things, obviously because they can be deemed as sport enhancing and lead to an unlevel playing field.

If you make a mistake you should take the punishment, realise your error, and not f**k up again. To make the same mistake twice in the same season borders on stupidity, or even worse addiction.

How anyone can not back the club on their correct decision is absolutely beyond my comprehension.

I’m not having a pop mate you’re own words you don’t have a problem with anyone taking drugs would you apply that to your own Children taken them .????
Secondly a good mate of mine had his house burgaled in court culprit used excuse he was desperate to fund his drug addiction
I DO have problems with drug taking

I understand you PB, and this is also a response to Chris' 1st line a few posts above.

I repeat, I have no problem with anyone taking drugs as it is their own free will. I do have a massive problem with anyone infringing on other people's free will, civil liberties and rights e.g. burglarly, violence or any other matter. My children fall into the same bracket. If you are asking would I/ did I discourage my children from taking drugs? the answer is yes and I have already done this. But ultimately when they hit aldulthood it is their choice, I can only advise.

I am of the opinion that people should be allowed to do what they wish, as long as, and this is the key, they do not piss on somebody elses chips. Essentially it is the basis for common law, the law that still ultimately rules this land.

Where NML went wrong is that he willingly signed a contract that does not permit drug taking in any shape or form, and he broke that contract, more than once. In that case the club were quite within their rights to terminate said contract, and I am glad they did.

On a wider note I believe that many of these free choices have been stripped from us, the citizens, but have been portrayed by the state as "we are doing it for your own good, as we have all the experts and thus know best!". Essentially, what starts off as a free state soon slides into a "nanny state" and then quite quickly turns into a dictatorship. This is what is obviously evident now and I am utterly amazed that the vast majority cannot see it.

Please don't forget that the two biggest drug killers and life wreckers, aside of big pharma products, are alcohol and tobacco (smoking). Both of these are legal.

I have no problem with anyone taking drugs, it is their choice and their free will to do so.

However, if you are governed by an employer, and contract, that states you cannot do that, it is a totally different ball game.

In this paticular case it was not just the employer, it was the sports governing body who bans these things, obviously because they can be deemed as sport enhancing and lead to an unlevel playing field.

If you make a mistake you should take the punishment, realise your error, and not f**k up again. To make the same mistake twice in the same season borders on stupidity, or even worse addiction.

How anyone can not back the club on their correct decision is absolutely beyond my comprehension.

I’m not having a pop mate you’re own words you don’t have a problem with anyone taking drugs would you apply that to your own Children taken them .????
Secondly a good mate of mine had his house burgaled in court culprit used excuse he was desperate to fund his drug addiction
I DO have problems with drug taking

I understand you PB, and this is also a response to Chris' 1st line a few posts above.

I repeat, I have no problem with anyone taking drugs as it is their own free will. I do have a massive problem with anyone infringing on other people's free will, civil liberties and rights e.g. burglarly, violence or any other matter. My children fall into the same bracket. If you are asking would I/ did I discourage my children from taking drugs? the answer is yes and I have already done this. But ultimately when they hit aldulthood it is their choice, I can only advise.

I am of the opinion that people should be allowed to do what they wish, as long as, and this is the key, they do not piss on somebody elses chips. Essentially it is the basis for common law, the law that still ultimately rules this land.

Where NML went wrong is that he willingly signed a contract that does not permit drug taking in any shape or form, and he broke that contract, more than once. In that case the club were quite within their rights to terminate said contract, and I am glad they did.

On a wider note I believe that many of these free choices have been stripped from us, the citizens, but have been portrayed by the state as "we are doing it for your own good, as we have all the experts and thus know best!". Essentially, what starts off as a free state soon slides into a "nanny state" and then quite quickly turns into a dictatorship. This is what is obviously evident now and I am utterly amazed that the vast majority cannot see it.

Please don't forget that the two biggest drug killers and life wreckers, aside of big pharma products, are alcohol and tobacco (smoking). Both of these are legal.

A fair reply and I respect your view I wasn’t trying to cause offence to you mate

Look none of us are perfect and we all have skeletons in our wardrobe

But I know for a fact he got caught twice before matches and I also know there way more to all this and a lot was stopped from coming out, as many on here have said first time a mistake and forgiven with full wages, but then it got out of control and in my opinion, its a disgrace that he can go straight on to Boro, our children look up to these stars.

Our Club was 100% right to terminate his contract, but sadly our club lost out big time.

NEIL HARRIS / BULLSHIT:


"He has completely ruptured the hamstring," said manager Neil Harris at the time.

"The early diagnosis of the scan is that he is not going to play again or is very unlikely to play again this season. So he is certainly ruled out for the foreseeable future."

The disruption caused to the football season due to the coronavirus pandemic meant that when Mendez-Laing was fit enough to return for the clash at home to Leeds United on June 21, he had already served his suspension.

A fair reply and I respect your view I wasn’t trying to cause offence to you mate

No offence taken, you also made a fair point, I just wanted to qualify my view.

This board is for opinions, on all topics, as long as people don't get abusive (of which I have been guilty of in the past!!! ) there is no problem.

Annis, you are spot on......yet again, the innocent party in all of this, namely our club, has come out the worst.

A fair reply and I respect your view I wasn’t trying to cause offence to you mate

No offence taken, you also made a fair point, I just wanted to qualify my view.

This board is for opinions, on all topics, as long as people don't get abusive (of which I have been guilty of in the past!!! ) there is no problem.

Annis, you are spot on......yet again, the innocent party in all of this, namely our club, has come out the worst.

Cheers mate your right ccfc innocent party only loser

I bet 75% of this posts are hypocrites. The amount of times you lot have probably indulged in cocaine use then when a footballer does it you want to chuck them out to dry. The lad obviously had a problem, very very poor from the club not getting behind him and giving him help. City the only losers here.

NEIL HARRIS / BULLSHIT:


"He has completely ruptured the hamstring," said manager Neil Harris at the time.

"The early diagnosis of the scan is that he is not going to play again or is very unlikely to play again this season. So he is certainly ruled out for the foreseeable future."

The disruption caused to the football season due to the coronavirus pandemic meant that when Mendez-Laing was fit enough to return for the clash at home to Leeds United on June 21, he had already served his suspension.

It would have been better for all if NML had come out and stated what had happened.

And NW, should have steered well clear.

once yes you can make a mistake , twice? No

I bet 75% of this posts are hypocrites. The amount of times you lot have probably indulged in cocaine use then when a footballer does it you want to chuck them out to dry. The lad obviously had a problem, very very poor from the club not getting behind him and giving him help. City the only losers here.

Dear oh dear Not clubs responsibility, hes been at for years Peterboro cancelled his contract several years ago, Fcku him, he obviously couldn,t care less.

He's a big lad, so in my eyes he is performance enhancing keeping his weight down

I bet 75% of this posts are hypocrites. The amount of times you lot have probably indulged in cocaine use then when a footballer does it you want to chuck them out to dry. The lad obviously had a problem, very very poor from the club not getting behind him and giving him help. City the only losers here.

I’m all for giving people support, but how many chances should the club give him? Another one, two, three?

They supported him first time on full pay - he then did it again just 4 games after his ‘ban’ ended and the night before a game. He let his teammates down, the club down and the fans down. Frankly I think he should have offered up a public apology in his statement yesterday to the club, team and fans...before his point about just wanting to move on.

I haven’t seen anything to suggest this was an addiction v recreational use (I might be wrong); therefore if it is the later the club did absolutely the right thing from an integrity and reputation perspective. The fact that the PFA haven’t seemed to challenge it also points to that.

Loved NML as a player but he really has made his bed there. I believe he was let go from Peterborough as well for off the pitch issues, so clearly hasn’t learnt his lesson.

Also the clubs stance isn’t surprising when you consider how strongly backed we are from the Asian area, including VT whose Malaysian and these countries have always had a zero tolerance of anything to do with drugs

NEIL HARRIS / BULLSHIT:


"He has completely ruptured the hamstring," said manager Neil Harris at the time.

"The early diagnosis of the scan is that he is not going to play again or is very unlikely to play again this season. So he is certainly ruled out for the foreseeable future."

The disruption caused to the football season due to the coronavirus pandemic meant that when Mendez-Laing was fit enough to return for the clash at home to Leeds United on June 21, he had already served his suspension.

It would have been better for all if NML had come out and stated what had happened.

And NW, should have steered well clear.

once yes you can make a mistake , twice? No

Totally agree.

The players unions lawyers were on City's backs and tried every way possible to stop it getting out.

Mendez-Laing I dont feel for one minute is sorry.

I have no problem with anyone taking drugs, it is their choice and their free will to do so.

However, if you are governed by an employer, and contract, that states you cannot do that, it is a totally different ball game.

In this paticular case it was not just the employer, it was the sports governing body who bans these things, obviously because they can be deemed as sport enhancing and lead to an unlevel playing field.

If you make a mistake you should take the punishment, realise your error, and not f**k up again. To make the same mistake twice in the same season borders on stupidity, or even worse addiction.

How anyone can not back the club on their correct decision is absolutely beyond my comprehension.

I’m not having a pop mate you’re own words you don’t have a problem with anyone taking drugs would you apply that to your own Children taken them .????
Secondly a good mate of mine had his house burgaled in court culprit used excuse he was desperate to fund his drug addiction
I DO have problems with drug taking

I understand you PB, and this is also a response to Chris' 1st line a few posts above.

I repeat, I have no problem with anyone taking drugs as it is their own free will. I do have a massive problem with anyone infringing on other people's free will, civil liberties and rights e.g. burglarly, violence or any other matter. My children fall into the same bracket. If you are asking would I/ did I discourage my children from taking drugs? the answer is yes and I have already done this. But ultimately when they hit aldulthood it is their choice, I can only advise.

I am of the opinion that people should be allowed to do what they wish, as long as, and this is the key, they do not piss on somebody elses chips. Essentially it is the basis for common law, the law that still ultimately rules this land.

Where NML went wrong is that he willingly signed a contract that does not permit drug taking in any shape or form, and he broke that contract, more than once. In that case the club were quite within their rights to terminate said contract, and I am glad they did.

On a wider note I believe that many of these free choices have been stripped from us, the citizens, but have been portrayed by the state as "we are doing it for your own good, as we have all the experts and thus know best!". Essentially, what starts off as a free state soon slides into a "nanny state" and then quite quickly turns into a dictatorship. This is what is obviously evident now and I am utterly amazed that the vast majority cannot see it.

Please don't forget that the two biggest drug killers and life wreckers, aside of big pharma products, are alcohol and tobacco (smoking). Both of these are legal.

Nicely cleared up, Jim. Thank you

I have no problem with anyone taking drugs, it is their choice and their free will to do so.

However, if you are governed by an employer, and contract, that states you cannot do that, it is a totally different ball game.

In this paticular case it was not just the employer, it was the sports governing body who bans these things, obviously because they can be deemed as sport enhancing and lead to an unlevel playing field.

If you make a mistake you should take the punishment, realise your error, and not f**k up again. To make the same mistake twice in the same season borders on stupidity, or even worse addiction.

How anyone can not back the club on their correct decision is absolutely beyond my comprehension.

I’m not having a pop mate you’re own words you don’t have a problem with anyone taking drugs would you apply that to your own Children taken them .????
Secondly a good mate of mine had his house burgaled in court culprit used excuse he was desperate to fund his drug addiction
I DO have problems with drug taking

I understand you PB, and this is also a response to Chris' 1st line a few posts above.

I repeat, I have no problem with anyone taking drugs as it is their own free will. I do have a massive problem with anyone infringing on other people's free will, civil liberties and rights e.g. burglarly, violence or any other matter. My children fall into the same bracket. If you are asking would I/ did I discourage my children from taking drugs? the answer is yes and I have already done this. But ultimately when they hit aldulthood it is their choice, I can only advise.

I am of the opinion that people should be allowed to do what they wish, as long as, and this is the key, they do not piss on somebody elses chips. Essentially it is the basis for common law, the law that still ultimately rules this land.

Where NML went wrong is that he willingly signed a contract that does not permit drug taking in any shape or form, and he broke that contract, more than once. In that case the club were quite within their rights to terminate said contract, and I am glad they did.

On a wider note I believe that many of these free choices have been stripped from us, the citizens, but have been portrayed by the state as "we are doing it for your own good, as we have all the experts and thus know best!". Essentially, what starts off as a free state soon slides into a "nanny state" and then quite quickly turns into a dictatorship. This is what is obviously evident now and I am utterly amazed that the vast majority cannot see it.

Please don't forget that the two biggest drug killers and life wreckers, aside of big pharma products, are alcohol and tobacco (smoking). Both of these are legal.

Nicely cleared up, Jim. Thank you

Look none of us are perfect and we all have skeletons in our wardrobe

But I know for a fact he got caught twice before matches and I also know there way more to all this and a lot was stopped from coming out, as many on here have said first time a mistake and forgiven with full wages, but then it got out of control and in my opinion, its a disgrace that he can go straight on to Boro, our children look up to these stars.

Our Club was 100% right to terminate his contract, but sadly our club lost out big time.

I’ve been around the block a few times Annis and have more than a few skeletons in my cupboard!

But seriously, I also know there is more to this story than what has come out.

Ken Choo and the board have high principles in this matter and like you I believe they were 100% right to do what they did. I don’t care if he was our star player (which he was not) or worth 10mill.

Nice to finally find out the reason. But is a ban in any sport really necessary for a non performance enhancing drug? It's a lot less harmful than Alcohol and Tobacco. I just don't get the demonising of certain drugs. If anyone is interested, look up Dr Carl Hart

Most jobs you get caught taking drugs you get sacked. End of.

Nice to finally find out the reason. But is a ban in any sport really necessary for a non performance enhancing drug? It's a lot less harmful than Alcohol and Tobacco. I just don't get the demonising of certain drugs. If anyone is interested, look up Dr Carl Hart

Does cocaine suppress you're appitite?. Is it not a stimulant than burns through calories? Does help the body to not store fat??? I think cocaine would help larger framed footballers if used moderately. Performance enhancing

Look none of us are perfect and we all have skeletons in our wardrobe

But I know for a fact he got caught twice before matches and I also know there way more to all this and a lot was stopped from coming out, as many on here have said first time a mistake and forgiven with full wages, but then it got out of control and in my opinion, its a disgrace that he can go straight on to Boro, our children look up to these stars.

Our Club was 100% right to terminate his contract, but sadly our club lost out big time.

I’ve been around the block a few times Annis and have more than a few skeletons in my cupboard!

But seriously, I also know there is more to this story than what has come out.

Ken Choo and the board have high principles in this matter and like you I believe they were 100% right to do what they did. I don’t care if he was our star player (which he was not) or worth 10mill.

We all have, but Weve been given 2nd chances and you dont blow it.

Yes way way more to this story as we know and I am with you 100% and the Board are totally right

I am shocked at Warnock though as he must know the full story as well, very shocked at him.

I stated my opinion, after a 2 minute research I'm happy to stick to it. The research states cocaine impacts physical activity negatively while high on cocaine. But thats not what i stated. Interestingly, cocaine users used to euphoric high can use that in sports by creating an inflated reality of they're ability. In short, it's a moral booster. Cocaine use can help a user lose weight. NML is a big lad. Performance enhancing keeping the weight off by use of a banned substance