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Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:03 pm

They were peacefully protesting at the start, as is their right to do BUT as soon as they stepped over the threshold of the capitol building they became domestic terrorists and should have known the consequences that their actions could cause. I'm just surprised that more were not shot and I'm sure that more arrests will be coming in the not too distant future.

Not sure if any of you guys have ever heard of Guy Fawkes but I have no doubt that certain people will tell me that it was his right & he didn't deserve what happened to him after he was caught as he was just protesting.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:07 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:hmm

I've been on phillyantifa.Org trying to find it, currently yet to do so because they are a lot of pics and they seemingly all are of nazis, kkk, white supremacists.

I'm 4 pages in and I don't think a picture of an antifa member has come up so I'll be surprised if they are.

I'll continue looking though.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:18 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:hmm

I've been on phillyantifa.Org trying to find it, currently yet to do so because they are a lot of pics and they seemingly all are of nazis, kkk, white supremacists.

I'm 4 pages in and I don't think a picture of an antifa member has come up so I'll be surprised if they are.

I'll continue looking though.

Sadly the images stopped loading when I reached 2014 but thankfully someone else managed to find what was said about him on that site.
https://twitter.com/Thejobo/status/1346 ... 46338?s=19

Turns out he goes to kkk and neo nazi rallies.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:18 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:hmm

I've been on phillyantifa.Org trying to find it, currently yet to do so because they are a lot of pics and they seemingly all are of nazis, kkk, white supremacists.

I'm 4 pages in and I don't think a picture of an antifa member has come up so I'll be surprised if they are.

I'll continue looking though.


I've just been exposed
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Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:23 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:They were peacefully protesting at the start, as is their right to do BUT as soon as they stepped over the threshold of the capitol building they became domestic terrorists and should have known the consequences that their actions could cause. I'm just surprised that more were not shot and I'm sure that more arrests will be coming in the not too distant future.

Not sure if any of you guys have ever heard of Guy Fawkes but I have no doubt that certain people will tell me that it was his right & he didn't deserve what happened to him after he was caught as he was just protesting.

Guy Fawkes was a terrorist of his time and despite being English born (York) he fought for the Spanish under the name 'Guido Fawkes' before becoming a member of the 'English Catholics'; a group created to create havoc and restore the Pope as the head of the church in England

With regard to Washington yesterday, it is clear that Trump encouraged his Right Wing 'supporters' to attend Washington 'in protest' of his wholly legitimate and democratic defeat; he then addressed and goaded them 'live' before running away as fast as his protection team could do so, as he realised this was getting a bit too close to comfort

Once he regained some composure, he then told the 'mob' to "Go home safely" but only after reiterating his unsubstantiated claim that he was 'stitched up' in the vote; something he did again later, even after his Twitter account was frozen

FOUR people have died so far and others are 'critical'; so at what point does the 'blame' shift to 'The Donald'?

That time is well passed and he should be made accountable in Law for his stupid actions

Even Mike Pence has 'jumped ship' and looks at the Trump reaction to that!

The guy 'The Donald' is clearly unhinged by his narcissism (we have a 'busted flush' on here like that) and needs to go quietly back to his Florida retreat before his (hopefully) trial and say no more; not even a 'too late now' apology, as it simply won't cut the mustard!

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:23 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:Guys meet 2 AntiFA guys from Philadelpha who were at the Capital Hill last night.

Also meet the paid BLM actor who was also there.

https://parler.com/profile/JakeAngeli/posts
This guy? The person who believes qanon so much they have a tattoo (conveniently left off those pics).
What is it though? "far-right conspiracy theory alleging that a cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophiles is running a global child sex-trafficking ring and plotting against US president Donald Trump, who is fighting the cabal."
Your typical blm actor I suppose.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 3:32 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Guys meet 2 AntiFA guys from Philadelpha who were at the Capital Hill last night.

Also meet the paid BLM actor who was also there.

https://parler.com/profile/JakeAngeli/posts
This guy? The person who believes qanon so much they have a tattoo (conveniently left off those pics).
What is it though? "far-right conspiracy theory alleging that a cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophiles is running a global child sex-trafficking ring and plotting against US president Donald Trump, who is fighting the cabal."
Your typical blm actor I suppose.

Just to be 1000% sure what side he's on why don't we get it directly from the horses mouth
https://twitter.com/VoteGoldJen/status/ ... 11206?s=19

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:18 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Guys meet 2 AntiFA guys from Philadelpha who were at the Capital Hill last night.

Also meet the paid BLM actor who was also there.

https://parler.com/profile/JakeAngeli/posts
This guy? The person who believes qanon so much they have a tattoo (conveniently left off those pics).
What is it though? "far-right conspiracy theory alleging that a cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophiles is running a global child sex-trafficking ring and plotting against US president Donald Trump, who is fighting the cabal."
Your typical blm actor I suppose.

Just to be 1000% sure what side he's on why don't we get it directly from the horses mouth
https://twitter.com/VoteGoldJen/status/ ... 11206?s=19

The moment the woman was shot

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... pitol.html

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:25 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:Guys meet 2 AntiFA guys from Philadelpha who were at the Capital Hill last night.

Also meet the paid BLM actor who was also there.

https://parler.com/profile/JakeAngeli/posts
This guy? The person who believes qanon so much they have a tattoo (conveniently left off those pics).
What is it though? "far-right conspiracy theory alleging that a cabal of Satan-worshipping pedophiles is running a global child sex-trafficking ring and plotting against US president Donald Trump, who is fighting the cabal."
Your typical blm actor I suppose.


Yeah heard all that. Had a few Utube clips sent to me from a group of people I know well. One clip they were giving a running commentary of the police breaking into a house of Elite pedos and arresting them. I never heard anything in the news about them which you would have though would have been aired. I was told by them it will be all covered up, they used that reply quite a lot.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:37 pm

Igovernor wrote:
glas wrote:The woman shot dead was not shot by protestors, as the headlines and some people on here, are insinuating.
She was shot by the police.
She was a married, businesswoman and US airforce veteran, so you could argue she had earned the right to protest.
She was shot by the police, so will the officer be charged with murder?
Will there be riots, looting, burning shops/buildings in the USA and riots in this country now?
Pipe bombs were allegedly found outside the Republican offices, so not Trump supporters placing them.

The media yet again not reporting events fully or fairly.

The US is in a mess and the new president/government will not improve the situation.


She was warned twice to stop and charged the police, there is video evidence of what happened, at this moment we do not whether she was armed or not, you were not there but go ahead blame the police when you have no idea what actually happened. Also you do have the right to protest, but you do not have the right to break into congress, and attack the police, this is not protesting but terrorism.



i watched the video yesterday. suggest you do too before posting this charging the police stuff.... was murder...

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:19 pm

Flat earthers and trump supporters. ffs, What a world we are living in.
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Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:34 pm

And the Communists who just abducted 53 people in Hong Kong.. disgusting extremism. Oddly never gets a mention from the noisy brigade on here. I don’t know why.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:06 pm

rumpo kid wrote:And the Communists who just abducted 53 people in Hong Kong.. disgusting extremism. Oddly never gets a mention from the noisy brigade on here. I don’t know why.


Do you have a link ? Hard to mention it if it's not known about, BBC news website has nothing that is easily visible. Not denying that it happened but you're blaming people (me for one?) for not mentioning it when they may not know.

Could you also name the "noisy brigade" so we know who it is you're directing this at.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:24 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:And the Communists who just abducted 53 people in Hong Kong.. disgusting extremism. Oddly never gets a mention from the noisy brigade on here. I don’t know why.


Do you have a link ? Hard to mention it if it's not known about, BBC news website has nothing that is easily visible. Not denying that it happened but you're blaming people (me for one?) for not mentioning it when they may not know.

Could you also name the "noisy brigade" so we know who it is you're directing this at.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co ... a-55555299

Here you go buddy. In fairness, i hadn't seen this until I looked after seeing Rumpo's post either.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:23 pm

The average American in a normal school (public) will be exposed to little education per se.. Teachers are treated like labourers is it any wonder the country is fucked. Trump knows this and has perfected the art of latching onto working class white concerns , fears and anger. He is a malignant narcissist who cares for nobody, Here is a cross section of his moronic follwers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMXRHjfMGq8

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:28 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:And the Communists who just abducted 53 people in Hong Kong.. disgusting extremism. Oddly never gets a mention from the noisy brigade on here. I don’t know why.


Do you have a link ? Hard to mention it if it's not known about, BBC news website has nothing that is easily visible. Not denying that it happened but you're blaming people (me for one?) for not mentioning it when they may not know.

Could you also name the "noisy brigade" so we know who it is you're directing this at.


Not blaming you, don’t know you. BBC run by elitist fake socialists obsessed with Trump. Get your political news there, and you
likely get the news you want.

Well, now you know and it’s all quiet. Perhaps we should wait for football poster bill to start a new thread. Josh may throw in a few wikilinks to reinforce evidence of Communist Party oppression. It’s fairly popular.. been going on for decades.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:45 pm

Did a super-spreader event take place in D,C,Washington yesterday.Asking for a friend.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:49 pm

rumpo kid wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:And the Communists who just abducted 53 people in Hong Kong.. disgusting extremism. Oddly never gets a mention from the noisy brigade on here. I don’t know why.


Do you have a link ? Hard to mention it if it's not known about, BBC news website has nothing that is easily visible. Not denying that it happened but you're blaming people (me for one?) for not mentioning it when they may not know.

Could you also name the "noisy brigade" so we know who it is you're directing this at.


Not blaming you, don’t know you. BBC run by elitist fake socialists obsessed with Trump. Get your political news there, and you
likely get the news you want.

Well, now you know and it’s all quiet. Perhaps we should wait for football poster bill to start a new thread. Josh may throw in a few wikilinks to reinforce evidence of Communist Party oppression. It’s fairly popular.. been going on for decades.

Don't get your knickers in a twist luv it's about 5000 miles away. It's about as relevant to you as the current economical crisis in Botswana.


Where did you find out about it from then?

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 10:56 pm

Jimmy Scoular wrote:The average American in a normal school (public) will be exposed to little education per se.. Teachers are treated like labourers is it any wonder the country is fucked. Trump knows this and has perfected the art of latching onto working class white concerns , fears and anger. He is a malignant narcissist who cares for nobody, Here is a cross section of his moronic follwers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMXRHjfMGq8



i wonder how many of them know what a cross section means....

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:00 pm

stickywicket wrote:Did a super-spreader event take place in D,C,Washington yesterday.Asking for a friend.



protests and riots do not count...havent since the getgo...

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:53 pm

Trump will walk away. He doesn't give a f**k that 5 people died.. Including a policeman.
He's a prick. He said "" we'll walk up to Capital hill".
I didn't see him there. Did you?
Still the chicken and draft dodger.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Thu Jan 07, 2021 11:58 pm

stickywicket wrote:Trump will walk away. He doesn't give a f**k that 5 people died.. Including a policeman.
He's a prick. He said "" we'll walk up to Capital hill".
I didn't see him there. Did you?
Still the chicken and draft dodger.




going to leave a big hole in your life mate... hope youve prepared for it and lined up a new hate figure..

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:22 am

bill22322 wrote:They descend further into fascism, trying to stop the democratic process through the use of violence. All with the blessing of their glorious leader. Pipe bombs being used and guns being fired! The right in The States need to accept democracy, stop whinging, admit they lost and move on. Just imagine if this was a BLM march !

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9118653/Thousands-Trump-supporters-gather-White-House-Save-America-rally.html?login#readerCommentsCommand-message-field

Trump supporters stormed barricades surrounding US Capitol building in Washington, DC
Capitol Hill police used pepper spray to keep the Trump supporters from nearing the entrance to the building
Trump backers also climbed on top of TV towers near the inauguration stage in front of Capitol building
Incident took place as members of Congress started joint session to ratify President-elect Joe Biden's victory
Library of Congress building and the Cannon House Office Building were evacuated by Capitol Police
House Rep. Elaine Luria of Virginia said she had to evacuate because of a reported pipe bomb
Congressional staffers working in Cannon House Office Building 'used underground tunnels to evacuate'
Capitol Police later said that there was no threat and gave the 'all clear' at the Cannon House Office Building
Dramatic incidents come just after President Trump spoke at a 'Save America' rally near the White House
At least 10 people were arrested by local and federal law enforcement officers in Washington, DC
Some were detained on possession of firearms while others were arrested for assaulting a police officer
Trump supporters started lining up before dawn near White House in Washington, DC, on Wednesday
Crowds are there for the 'Save America' rally protesting planned certification of Joe Biden's election victory




complete crap they should have burned the place down the swamp is the problem not frustrated trump supporters.

BLM and anitfa attacked normal people and businesses not corrupt and criminal politicians and the enablers in the msm.

they are all our enemies

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:24 am

robjohn wrote:
bill22322 wrote:They descend further into fascism, trying to stop the democratic process through the use of violence. All with the blessing of their glorious leader. Pipe bombs being used and guns being fired! The right in The States need to accept democracy, stop whinging, admit they lost and move on. Just imagine if this was a BLM march !

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9118653/Thousands-Trump-supporters-gather-White-House-Save-America-rally.html?login#readerCommentsCommand-message-field

Trump supporters stormed barricades surrounding US Capitol building in Washington, DC
Capitol Hill police used pepper spray to keep the Trump supporters from nearing the entrance to the building
Trump backers also climbed on top of TV towers near the inauguration stage in front of Capitol building
Incident took place as members of Congress started joint session to ratify President-elect Joe Biden's victory
Library of Congress building and the Cannon House Office Building were evacuated by Capitol Police
House Rep. Elaine Luria of Virginia said she had to evacuate because of a reported pipe bomb
Congressional staffers working in Cannon House Office Building 'used underground tunnels to evacuate'
Capitol Police later said that there was no threat and gave the 'all clear' at the Cannon House Office Building
Dramatic incidents come just after President Trump spoke at a 'Save America' rally near the White House
At least 10 people were arrested by local and federal law enforcement officers in Washington, DC
Some were detained on possession of firearms while others were arrested for assaulting a police officer
Trump supporters started lining up before dawn near White House in Washington, DC, on Wednesday
Crowds are there for the 'Save America' rally protesting planned certification of Joe Biden's election victory




complete crap they should have burned the place down the swamp is the problem not frustrated trump supporters.

BLM and anitfa attacked normal people and businesses not corrupt and criminal politicians and the enablers in the msm.

they are all our enemies

Wow! Calm down dear, you sound very angry! "Enemies" ? That makes you sound like one of the fascists who were rioting in the name of Trump on Wednesday.
"The Swamp" ? Trump lost in a democratic vote! When Biden is inaugurated, the cycle begins again and you can criticise him and the rest of the people in power. However, it sounds like you need to get over the fact that Trump lost fairly!

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:34 am

bill22322 wrote:Wow! Calm down dear, you sound very angry! "Enemies" ? That makes you sound like one of the fascists who were rioting in the name of Trump on Wednesday.


You do realise that the way you and many others so liberally throw around words like fascist and neo-nazi has made these words almost meaningless.

You undermine your every argument by excessive use of hyperbole and seem desperate to use one very broad brush to tar nearly 74 million people with the same.

Genuine question for you BIll, what is more important to you, actually looking at how the divide (which is far greater than the US, that is just the most visible aspect of it right now) can be bridged and how people can find a middle ground, or winning the argument with hyperbolic nonsense?

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:41 am

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skidemin wrote:
stickywicket wrote:Trump will walk away. He doesn't give a f**k that 5 people died.. Including a policeman.
He's a prick. He said "" we'll walk up to Capital hill".
I didn't see him there. Did you?
Still the chicken and draft dodger.




going to leave a big hole in your life mate... hope youve prepared for it and lined up a new hate figure..

Donald Trump has turned on his supporters after they attacked Congress on Wednesday, calling their actions “heinous” despite having incited them to riot just hours before they stormed the US Capitol
That's you fucked mate.
Like I said he's a chicken he doesn't give a f**k about
anybody but himself. Get back to knocking BLM there's a good boy.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:13 am

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
bill22322 wrote:Wow! Calm down dear, you sound very angry! "Enemies" ? That makes you sound like one of the fascists who were rioting in the name of Trump on Wednesday.


You do realise that the way you and many others so liberally throw around words like fascist and neo-nazi has made these words almost meaningless.

You undermine your every argument by excessive use of hyperbole and seem desperate to use one very broad brush to tar nearly 74 million people with the same.

Genuine question for you BIll, what is more important to you, actually looking at how the divide (which is far greater than the US, that is just the most visible aspect of it right now) can be bridged and how people can find a middle ground, or winning the argument with hyperbolic nonsense?


I described the people who stormed the Capitol building on Wednesday as Fascists, not the 74 million who voted for Trump. The people who did that want to over turn a democratic election through the use of violence. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact; those people are fascists. The word fascist is not meaningless and the fact that in 2021 we're seeing people in the world's most open democracy behaving in a violent, fascist way in order to maintain power is extremely disturbing and it needs to be stopped. These people need to accept a democratic vote. They can protest against it all they want but should never resort to violence.
Most of us do have a middle ground and can agree on most things. However, at the moment, politics is extremely polarised. The nut jobs who were rioting yesterday should not have been encouraged beforehand by the rhetoric coming from the media. All media outlets need to take a long, hard at themselves and need to tone down the hyperbolic language they use, "enemies of the people, the swamp " etc. If the media was more balanced and didn't portray people who had different views as "the other" or "Enemies of the people" etc etc, most people would find a middle ground and privileged, fascistic charlatans like Trump would never get into political power. Look at the difference between him losing and the dignity and statesman-like way John McCain accepted defeat to Obama in 2008.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:28 am

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
bill22322 wrote:Wow! Calm down dear, you sound very angry! "Enemies" ? That makes you sound like one of the fascists who were rioting in the name of Trump on Wednesday.


You do realise that the way you and many others so liberally throw around words like fascist and neo-nazi has made these words almost meaningless.

You undermine your every argument by excessive use of hyperbole and seem desperate to use one very broad brush to tar nearly 74 million people with the same.

Genuine question for you BIll, what is more important to you, actually looking at how the divide (which is far greater than the US, that is just the most visible aspect of it right now) can be bridged and how people can find a middle ground, or winning the argument with hyperbolic nonsense?

You are aware that there were nazis and fascists there.
That picture which baked alaaka put on page 2 is of someone who attends rallies of:
Kkk
National socialists (aka what the nazis called themselves rather than being an actual socialist rally)
The aryan nations.

I think fascist and nazi is a pretty apt description.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:34 am

skidemin wrote:
Igovernor wrote:
glas wrote:The woman shot dead was not shot by protestors, as the headlines and some people on here, are insinuating.
She was shot by the police.
She was a married, businesswoman and US airforce veteran, so you could argue she had earned the right to protest.
She was shot by the police, so will the officer be charged with murder?
Will there be riots, looting, burning shops/buildings in the USA and riots in this country now?
Pipe bombs were allegedly found outside the Republican offices, so not Trump supporters placing them.

The media yet again not reporting events fully or fairly.

The US is in a mess and the new president/government will not improve the situation.


She was warned twice to stop and charged the police, there is video evidence of what happened, at this moment we do not whether she was armed or not, you were not there but go ahead blame the police when you have no idea what actually happened. Also you do have the right to protest, but you do not have the right to break into congress, and attack the police, this is not protesting but terrorism.



i watched the video yesterday. suggest you do too before posting this charging the police stuff.... was murder...


I am glad you watched the video, so you would have seen the guy right next to her brandishing a gun, whether the cop seen the gun will determine whether or not he is prosecuted, he has no way of knowing if she was armed or not. Her death is very sad, and avoidable, but when what happened yesterday with this mob, it was obvious that there would be consequences, it is only surprising that there were not more deaths. No matter what you say it is all down to Trump, not a matter of whether you like him or not.

Re: " AWFUL VIOLENCE FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS IN THE US "

Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:51 am

bill22322 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
bill22322 wrote:Wow! Calm down dear, you sound very angry! "Enemies" ? That makes you sound like one of the fascists who were rioting in the name of Trump on Wednesday.


You do realise that the way you and many others so liberally throw around words like fascist and neo-nazi has made these words almost meaningless.

You undermine your every argument by excessive use of hyperbole and seem desperate to use one very broad brush to tar nearly 74 million people with the same.

Genuine question for you BIll, what is more important to you, actually looking at how the divide (which is far greater than the US, that is just the most visible aspect of it right now) can be bridged and how people can find a middle ground, or winning the argument with hyperbolic nonsense?


I described the people who stormed the Capitol building on Wednesday as Fascists, not the 74 million who voted for Trump. The people who did that want to over turn a democratic election through the use of violence. That's not hyperbole, it's a fact; those people are fascists. The word fascist is not meaningless and the fact that in 2021 we're seeing people in the world's most open democracy behaving in a violent, fascist way in order to maintain power is extremely disturbing and it needs to be stopped. These people need to accept a democratic vote. They can protest against it all they want but should never resort to violence.
Most of us do have a middle ground and can agree on most things. However, at the moment, politics is extremely polarised. The nut jobs who were rioting yesterday should not have been encouraged beforehand by the rhetoric coming from the media. All media outlets need to take a long, hard at themselves and need to tone down the hyperbolic language they use, "enemies of the people, the swamp " etc. If the media was more balanced and didn't portray people who had different views as "the other" or "Enemies of the people" etc etc, most people would find a middle ground and privileged, fascistic charlatans like Trump would never get into political power. Look at the difference between him losing and the dignity and statesman-like way John McCain accepted defeat to Obama in 2008.


We need to be aware of how people on the Right of politics on this board phrase and frame things things to push their own agenda. Earlier a poster described 53 people in Hong Kong being abducted and it turns out they were detained by security service. Also was accusing people of relying on a biased BBC for their news. Well blow me down if another posted the link which was from the BBC lol and didn't mention the error that they were not abducted . He then insinuated that you were calling 74 million republican voters Fascist when it was plain to see from your post that it was the rioters that you were referring to.

Just saying be careful of the,"poetic License" that is too often used by certain posters