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Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:28 pm

mm3260 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
bill22322 wrote:I've just taken this from the BLM UK website. Make of it what you will;
"WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation.

We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.

We are not operating as a member of nor connected with any political party."


I've just taken this from an archive of the Black Lives Matter website from June 2019. https://web.archive.org/web/20190605234 ... e-believe/

"We returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many."

They changed the language of their website when it came under greater scrutiny.

Make of that what you will.


I refer you to your post about the Looters/Murders being BLM. WHERE is you proof? and the way you state things to enhance your own Position. How about the smallest States in the USA to justify that covid deaths were false. How about your assertations that institutional racism doesn't exist because , "We blew that ship out of the water on this forum".

Who do you think you are to make claims like that?? You are delusional and have a severe problem with Black society and equality. If you are suffering from these delusions of grandeur then i truly hope you can get professional help because i have no ill will towards people who need and probably merit help.

Institutional racism doesn't exist, We blew that ship out of the water on this forum". jesus save us. Please keep taking the medication



You are A right wing nasty who probably uses the saying, "i haven't got a racist bone in my body but........."


Here you go I already have the post ready for you because you're asking the same shite you asked before.

https://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/view ... 1&start=60

Now if you can find one quote. Any quote where I have ever said anything racist, get it up and with a link.

Otherwise, f**k off because you are making yourself look like a right nob throwing around baseless accusations without any grounds whatsoever.

Oh and you quoted the wrong post as well. Moron.


So Institutional Racism doesn't Exist?? That in itself is one of the most racist statements i've heard in a long time. How about denying the metrics on stop and search being heavily weighted in favour of the number of Blacks Being stopped. You deny a problem coz you were stopped and searched outside a tube station on a Friday night! All commentators say that stop and search is used disproportionately against Blacks but you, who discovered institutional racism don't exist deny it it.

One again this is evidence to back up my claims about you and on top of all that you called me a MORON. OMG you have found me out!!!!! I need some of your medication.

Seriously as i said, if you are getting professional; help and if this forum is part of your therapy i do wish you well and hope you can find a calm place in your mind where all are born equal under god. PS keep swearing, i love it xx

The much praised violent crime reduction strategy used in Glasgow (murder down by 2/3) included a lot of stop and search, in fact in poorer areas where young working class white boys were stabbing each other , it was 4 times the national average. Why then don’t you think stop and search should be used in working class black areas to stop black boys stabbing each other?

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:46 pm

Because they're black and the perpetrators of said crimes don't like it, as it reduces their 'right of freedom to act in an anti-social and murderous manner'...?

Glasgow is a glowing example of how 'stop and search' works; and if you've nothing to hide... ;)

"We don't like it..." is not a reason to defer using it to keep the streets as safe as is possible :ayatollah:

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:55 pm

Always remember that black woman in the Bronx whose shop was trashed by BLM. She told them to get a job like her and stop stealing..

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:19 pm

Sven wrote:Because they're black and the perpetrators of said crimes don't like it, as it reduces their 'right of freedom to act in an anti-social and murderous manner'...?

Glasgow is a glowing example of how 'stop and search' works; and if you've nothing to hide... ;)

"We don't like it..." is not a reason to defer using it to keep the streets as safe as is possible :ayatollah:


I quite agree with you if stop and search is used in a responsible was. My challenge was that the other poster dismissed the figures about stop and search disparity and the animosity it can cause. He trivialised its effect on a sub population. Not all blacks in a supposed black area are criminals and yes if you got nothing to hide there's no problem. The problem comes when you have to prove you've nothing to hide 3 times a week and twice on Sundays

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:04 pm

mm3260 wrote:"So Institutional racism doesn't exist", that statement is one of the most racist remarks i've heard in a long while.

Yeah, you said that. Saying it twice doesn't change the fact that it is still wrong.

Can't be arsed typing out the same shite over and over again so here is a quote from the last time around

ealing wrote: Actually, I probably said institutional and systemic racism don't exist in the UK. They don't.

For something to be institutional, it has to baked into the foundations of the institution.

If we lived in an institutionally racist society that would me that racism is codified into our legal system and people of a certain ethnicity couldn't achieve positions of office. Dawn Butler, Dianne Abbott, David Lammy, Priti Patel, Rishi Sunak just to name a few non-white politicians are examples of that the UK is not institutionally racist.

Similarly, if something is systemic, it means that it is apparent within all elements of a system.

If the UK was systemically racist all elements of the UK would be racist. This is not the case. Words have meanings and those meanings are important.

They might be nice-sounding buzz words but they are grossly inaccurate, regardless of how many people want to change their meaning.



mm3260 wrote:Stop and Search is no problem because you got stopped and searched outside a tube station on a Friday Night.


Please show me where I said these words exactly with a link to the post. I have commented on stop and search before and said:

ealing wrote:When London had a stop and search policy I got stopped every single Friday on the tube when my office had dressed down day. Every single time. I'm comfortable in a hood and jeans. I didnt live in an affluent area. I'm white. I wasn't stopped or profiled on my race, but on how I dressed, my class and where I lived.

There can be a huge debate about the validity of stop and search policies. These don't necessarily boil down to race though.

Way more complex discussion and class is a far greater aspect of the conversation than race, but is sweat aside because its easier to vilify white people openly than it is to turn on working class people.


The link to the post is here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=217950

mm3260 wrote:I NEVER SAID black and white cant see a shared view of the world. Once again you choose to twist and distort to advance your own agenda. I said, "A WHITE PERSON CANNOT SEE THE WORLD THROUGH A BLACK PERSONS EYES".Do you even know what that means?? Again you are showing your racist traits. You cannot see the prejudice that I or millions of Blacks have endured because you are white. Nothing more and nothing less.


No you said, "I cannot tell you how being white feels because i'm not white. You can't tell me the consequences of being a black person if you are white because you don't know.".

To which I replied

ealing wrote:[after listing examples of emerging modern day segregation...]

All in the name of equality. All in line with the premise that I as a white man cannot understand you as a black man, and you as a black man cannot understand me as a white man. The road to hell truly is paved with good intentions.

To paraphrase Morgan Freeman, I’m going to stop calling you a black man. And I’m going to ask you to stop calling me a white man. I'll know you as a man, you know me as a man, with shared experiences of being human.

Watch the following video, where 1,000 people who had never met before took part at a special event at the Tower of David in Jerusalem, to sing one song, in three languages and in three-part vocal harmony, which took them less than an hour to learn.

Then tell me that the human race is better divided, focused on our differences instead of coming together and focusing on the much bigger commonalities we all share as part of this fragile, yet strangely wonderful, inventive and beautiful thing we call the human race.

I'm so tired of all the division. It's not what we're supposed to be.


Please outline exactly where the racist rhetoric is in that statement.

The link for reference to this particular thread is here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=218959

mm3260 wrote:As it was you confirmed my suspicions and in no way would i seek to mock anyone with any health problems. My niece recently took her own life leaving 2 young children so i know only too well the hurt and truth behind mental health issues.


If this is true this only further magnifies how low it is that you would so glibly mock mental health sufferers. However, I am also sorry for your loss and my condolences to your family. Two young ones losing a mother is perhaps one of the most heartbreaking things that could happen ever.

mm3260 wrote:but you need to realise something.... WHERE IS YOUR PROOF THE LOOTERS/MURDERERS were BLM. Until that sort of attitude is changed, there will be problems. Good thing BLM changed their website hey. Gosh they were lucky to duck that one


Covered this in my reply to CityBlue93 earlier in the thread. Which was how a civil conversation can go even when people have opposing views.

mm3260 wrote:You keep playing to your happy clappers and posting your offensive bile


Again please put an actual quote, with my actual words, for something that constitutes offensive bile with links to the relevant posts.

You're a retired legal professional, educated to Masters degree level I recall, so it shouldn't be too much to request something silly like the actual evidence of me posting things in line with what you accuse me of with links so that it can be verified.

Something simple along these lines would do:

mm3260's on how another poster doesn't empathise with their black relatives: wrote:
Do me a favour and shut the fck up because anyone with half a brain can see through your, "I'm not a racist i've got black nephews " bollox. You may have black members of your family but it dont mean you empathise with them
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=215640

For someone who has ," Black Family and Friends" you're not clued up on matters black Annis.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=216144&p=2216734#p2216734


mm3260's eagerness to play a race card, even when posters have objected to his words not his race: : wrote:
you call me an,"ignorant tosser not like normal folk" because i'm a black person who bends a knee for equality.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=215896&p=2214725#p2214725

you have an obvious problem with Black people or people of colour even though you try to disguise it.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=215896&p=2214725#p2214725

You saying that your normal and not ignorant for not taking a knee suggests that black people are not normal and are ignorant.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=215896&p=2214725#p2214725

I assume that you don't class these people as fellow humans and that they led the world to a ,"Dark Place"?
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=219041&p=2249465#p2249465

"Just happened to be the wrong colour???????" I find it incredible that you defend these remarks and attack mine
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=217852&p=2235498#p2235498

(oh and don't forget the above in this actual thread itself)


mm3260's very dubious sense of morality when proving a point wrote:
Prince Andrew allegedly has sex 3 times with a girl of 17 who could lawfully be married and have sex and have children yet people refer to him as a paedophile for taking advantage of a 17yr old.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=216246&p=2217653#p2217653



and (my favourite), mm3260's hilariously unironic hypocrisy wrote:
This board has become a place where people are spouting views that have nothing to do with football and Cardiff City but instead they create conflict.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=217756&p=2233951#p2233951

Said after making 52 of his total 56 posts on non-football related topics (42 posts are race-related incidentally)


I've managed to find nine examples of you being a race-baiting, bigoted, hypocritical prick and put this post together in the 10 minutes or so I've been having a coffee before I start back to work and you only had 56 posts to pick through.

I've got 1667 or so posts and at as a retiree in lockdown I'm sure you've got all the time in the world to trawl through them to prove your point.

I'm sure I've probably said some mean things in there (mostly at Josh to be fair - but he gives as good as he gets) but you'll have to look very, very hard to find anything racists because it simply ain't there. But fill your boots young man and then come back to me with the exact words I've said, that are racist and a link to them.

This time around please don't put what you think I've said. You've done that enough now and been grossly inaccurate each time, so if you are going to try and back up your ridiculous claims with my own words, lets try and keep it accurate from here on in shall we?

I may be an uneducated fool without a degree compared to you and your high and mighty Masters and your Law degree. You may think it is OK to belittle people like me who suffer from mental illnesses, but if you're going to call me out for being a racist, if you are going to have the gumption to claim I have a hatred of all that is decent, and if you are going to try to use my own words to do so, surely it is a simple request that I ask you to do so in an accurate fashion in keeping with your background as a retired legal professional?

Better get on with it then mate, a lot of posts to go through, even with such a big ole educated brain like yours.

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:09 pm

mm3260 wrote:
Sven wrote:Because they're black and the perpetrators of said crimes don't like it, as it reduces their 'right of freedom to act in an anti-social and murderous manner'...?

Glasgow is a glowing example of how 'stop and search' works; and if you've nothing to hide... ;)

"We don't like it..." is not a reason to defer using it to keep the streets as safe as is possible :ayatollah:


I quite agree with you if stop and search is used in a responsible was. My challenge was that the other poster dismissed the figures about stop and search disparity and the animosity it can cause. He trivialised its effect on a sub population. Not all blacks in a supposed black area are criminals and yes if you got nothing to hide there's no problem. The problem comes when you have to prove you've nothing to hide 3 times a week and twice on Sundays


How much of a prick do you look now, with your last post being yet another lie, but fortunately one that I covered in my big post pointing out all your other lies.

My friend, it appears you are a mythomaniac, an interesting pathological mental condition that centres around compulsive lying

Either that or just a bit of a nob.

:lol:

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:25 pm

mm3260 wrote:
Sven wrote:Because they're black and the perpetrators of said crimes don't like it, as it reduces their 'right of freedom to act in an anti-social and murderous manner'...?

Glasgow is a glowing example of how 'stop and search' works; and if you've nothing to hide... ;)

"We don't like it..." is not a reason to defer using it to keep the streets as safe as is possible :ayatollah:


I quite agree with you if stop and search is used in a responsible was. My challenge was that the other poster dismissed the figures about stop and search disparity and the animosity it can cause. He trivialised its effect on a sub population. Not all blacks in a supposed black area are criminals and yes if you got nothing to hide there's no problem. The problem comes when you have to prove you've nothing to hide 3 times a week and twice on Sundays

I can see that; but there has to be a deterrent to these 'wanna hide' criminals (of any group) and in a metropolis like London, it is tough to recall/record all who have ben stopped and stop the innocent from feeling a little harassed

The biggest issue that I see (from some experience in a past life) is that proportionally black and (less so) Asian minorities are more likely to carry weapons and be prepared to use them

The social circumstances surrounding that are a major issue; but it doesn't make it right that that group cannot or should not be left alone regarding 'stop and search' when the evidence suggests they are the more likely group statistically from which 'finds' will occur

Again, maybe it's the manner in which people are searched that doesn't help either; and that is (and they should be accountable) of ten down to individual Officers, most of whom are first class but some of whom (and they will be known by their colleagues) are not fit for that job in the new 'community aware' world

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Mon Jan 04, 2021 10:26 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:
Sven wrote:Because they're black and the perpetrators of said crimes don't like it, as it reduces their 'right of freedom to act in an anti-social and murderous manner'...?

Glasgow is a glowing example of how 'stop and search' works; and if you've nothing to hide... ;)

"We don't like it..." is not a reason to defer using it to keep the streets as safe as is possible :ayatollah:


I quite agree with you if stop and search is used in a responsible was. My challenge was that the other poster dismissed the figures about stop and search disparity and the animosity it can cause. He trivialised its effect on a sub population. Not all blacks in a supposed black area are criminals and yes if you got nothing to hide there's no problem. The problem comes when you have to prove you've nothing to hide 3 times a week and twice on Sundays


How much of a prick do you look now, with your last post being yet another lie, but fortunately one that I covered in my big post pointing out all your other lies.

My friend, it appears you are a mythomaniac, an interesting pathological mental condition that centres around compulsive lying

Either that or just a bit of a nob.

:lol:


Wow you been busy. That's why you took so long to answer. I will leave it at this because i don't read everything that you say to other posters, WHERE IS YOUR PROOF that the murderers were BLM and please don't hate me because i was able to ascertain your mental state/problems by reading your replies to me. I qualified my statements by saying i wished you well if mental health issues ailed you and that is a sincere wish. To me there was/is something wrong with the way you play to the audience and seek approval. If you would rather hate me, do it under your breath or even in a pm in the way i know you want to. Ps language starting to slip again and I LOVE IT. Ta Ta my little Grand Wizard xx

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:11 pm

mm3260 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:
Sven wrote:Because they're black and the perpetrators of said crimes don't like it, as it reduces their 'right of freedom to act in an anti-social and murderous manner'...?

Glasgow is a glowing example of how 'stop and search' works; and if you've nothing to hide... ;)

"We don't like it..." is not a reason to defer using it to keep the streets as safe as is possible :ayatollah:


I quite agree with you if stop and search is used in a responsible was. My challenge was that the other poster dismissed the figures about stop and search disparity and the animosity it can cause. He trivialised its effect on a sub population. Not all blacks in a supposed black area are criminals and yes if you got nothing to hide there's no problem. The problem comes when you have to prove you've nothing to hide 3 times a week and twice on Sundays


How much of a prick do you look now, with your last post being yet another lie, but fortunately one that I covered in my big post pointing out all your other lies.

My friend, it appears you are a mythomaniac, an interesting pathological mental condition that centres around compulsive lying

Either that or just a bit of a nob.

:lol:


Wow you been busy. That's why you took so long to answer. I will leave it at this because i don't read everything that you say to other posters, WHERE IS YOUR PROOF that the murderers were BLM and please don't hate me because i was able to ascertain your mental state/problems by reading your replies to me. I qualified my statements by saying i wished you well if mental health issues ailed you and that is a sincere wish. To me there was/is something wrong with the way you play to the audience and seek approval. If you would rather hate me, do it under your breath or even in a pm in the way i know you want to. Ps language starting to slip again and I LOVE IT. Ta Ta my little Grand Wizard xx


I don't hate you. I pity you. You claim to be a 72-year-old man and you're consumed by hatred and you've just proven yourself to be a pathological liar. Either that or your just another troll living a fantasy life behind a keyboard.

Either way, I'd wager there is a lot more love, joy and happiness in my life than you have ever/will ever know :thumbup:

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:46 pm

Only a Meme but it says it all :ayatollah:
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Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:22 am

Nuclearblue wrote:Only a Meme but it says it all :ayatollah:
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Pretty much sums it up; unless you're looking for a 'cause' to fight and if you look long and hard enough a suitable one will always come along...like BLM ;)

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:29 am

Nuclearblue wrote:Only a Meme but it says it all :ayatollah:
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Joel Patrick is a very clever, smart and articulate young man. Quite funny at times, well mannered and humble as well, but can still hold his own in a heated discussion.

Kind of kid who you look at and know he will achieve whatever he wants to in life.

:ayatollah:

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:32 am

You see the Maoist Sleepers a mile off.. no football posts. Finger pointers and accusers c.1950s China..bunch of cants.

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:52 am

stickywicket wrote:Although millions of football fans want it rid of the game – Global247news spoke exclusively with Steven Thomas, a Cardiff City supporter. Walters words not mine.
Your the fool if you've let someone
claim credit for work you've written.
It sure as hell looks like he's wrote the article.His name is at the top of the article. It says by Michael Walters.



Thomas explained his stance and said....
BLM needs to end now..he finished...
i assume all the bit in between was Nukes ?

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:51 am

skidemin wrote:
stickywicket wrote:Although millions of football fans want it rid of the game – Global247news spoke exclusively with Steven Thomas, a Cardiff City supporter. Walters words not mine.
Your the fool if you've let someone
claim credit for work you've written.
It sure as hell looks like he's wrote the article.His name is at the top of the article. It says by Michael Walters.



Thomas explained his stance and said....
BLM needs to end now..he finished...
i assume all the bit in between was Nukes ?


Well yes that is correct and if people on here don’t know Steve Thomas is Nukes. I’ve explained how it happens but he still can’t grasp it so his problem :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:05 am

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:
Sven wrote:Because they're black and the perpetrators of said crimes don't like it, as it reduces their 'right of freedom to act in an anti-social and murderous manner'...?

Glasgow is a glowing example of how 'stop and search' works; and if you've nothing to hide... ;)

"We don't like it..." is not a reason to defer using it to keep the streets as safe as is possible :ayatollah:


I quite agree with you if stop and search is used in a responsible was. My challenge was that the other poster dismissed the figures about stop and search disparity and the animosity it can cause. He trivialised its effect on a sub population. Not all blacks in a supposed black area are criminals and yes if you got nothing to hide there's no problem. The problem comes when you have to prove you've nothing to hide 3 times a week and twice on Sundays


How much of a prick do you look now, with your last post being yet another lie, but fortunately one that I covered in my big post pointing out all your other lies.

My friend, it appears you are a mythomaniac, an interesting pathological mental condition that centres around compulsive lying

Either that or just a bit of a nob.

:lol:


Wow you been busy. That's why you took so long to answer. I will leave it at this because i don't read everything that you say to other posters, WHERE IS YOUR PROOF that the murderers were BLM and please don't hate me because i was able to ascertain your mental state/problems by reading your replies to me. I qualified my statements by saying i wished you well if mental health issues ailed you and that is a sincere wish. To me there was/is something wrong with the way you play to the audience and seek approval. If you would rather hate me, do it under your breath or even in a pm in the way i know you want to. Ps language starting to slip again and I LOVE IT. Ta Ta my little Grand Wizard xx


I don't hate you. I pity you. You claim to be a 72-year-old man and you're consumed by hatred and you've just proven yourself to be a pathological liar. Either that or your just another troll living a fantasy life behind a keyboard.

Either way, I'd wager there is a lot more love, joy and happiness in my life than you have ever/will ever know :thumbup:

I’m astonished he’s 72, he argues like a student. Proves beyond doubt age doesn’t always bring wisdom.
My last word on this. Black guy in London said on Telly, I welcome stop and search because the more stop and search the less chance my Son has of getting stabbed.

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:43 am

Jock wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:
Sven wrote:Because they're black and the perpetrators of said crimes don't like it, as it reduces their 'right of freedom to act in an anti-social and murderous manner'...?

Glasgow is a glowing example of how 'stop and search' works; and if you've nothing to hide... ;)

"We don't like it..." is not a reason to defer using it to keep the streets as safe as is possible :ayatollah:


I quite agree with you if stop and search is used in a responsible was. My challenge was that the other poster dismissed the figures about stop and search disparity and the animosity it can cause. He trivialised its effect on a sub population. Not all blacks in a supposed black area are criminals and yes if you got nothing to hide there's no problem. The problem comes when you have to prove you've nothing to hide 3 times a week and twice on Sundays


How much of a prick do you look now, with your last post being yet another lie, but fortunately one that I covered in my big post pointing out all your other lies.

My friend, it appears you are a mythomaniac, an interesting pathological mental condition that centres around compulsive lying

Either that or just a bit of a nob.

:lol:


Wow you been busy. That's why you took so long to answer. I will leave it at this because i don't read everything that you say to other posters, WHERE IS YOUR PROOF that the murderers were BLM and please don't hate me because i was able to ascertain your mental state/problems by reading your replies to me. I qualified my statements by saying i wished you well if mental health issues ailed you and that is a sincere wish. To me there was/is something wrong with the way you play to the audience and seek approval. If you would rather hate me, do it under your breath or even in a pm in the way i know you want to. Ps language starting to slip again and I LOVE IT. Ta Ta my little Grand Wizard xx


I don't hate you. I pity you. You claim to be a 72-year-old man and you're consumed by hatred and you've just proven yourself to be a pathological liar. Either that or your just another troll living a fantasy life behind a keyboard.

Either way, I'd wager there is a lot more love, joy and happiness in my life than you have ever/will ever know :thumbup:

I’m astonished he’s 72, he argues like a student. Proves beyond doubt age doesn’t always bring wisdom.
My last word on this. Black guy in London said on Telly, I welcome stop and search because the more stop and search the less chance my Son has of getting stabbed.


are you really using the views of 1 person in over a Million Black people in London to justify your idiotic statement?? You who have a pathological hatred of Celtic and their supporters. I suppose you would know more about prejudice and exclusion because of this.

You see the problem here is that people like you make sweeping statements and assumptions based on you own value set. It really is incredible that you think 1 guy who shares your views is representative of a Million plus people. Do me a favour Jock and stick to the old firm

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:18 am

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Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:44 am

mm3260 wrote:You who have a pathological hatred of Celtic and their supporters. I suppose you would know more about prejudice and exclusion because of this.


Sweeping statement...

... next sentence

mm3260 wrote:You see the problem here is that people like you make sweeping statements and assumptions based on you own value set


This is becoming a masterclass in how to look like an idiot.

:lol:

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:05 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:You who have a pathological hatred of Celtic and their supporters. I suppose you would know more about prejudice and exclusion because of this.


Sweeping statement...

... next sentence

mm3260 wrote:You see the problem here is that people like you make sweeping statements and assumptions based on you own value set


This is becoming a masterclass in how to look like an idiot.

:lol:


"I suppose you would know" is a sweeping statement?? God are you really that thick you imbecile? " I suppose you would know" is referring to a singular person. What a tool you are. Where's your Proof about the Looters? You gave your Papal bless to the OP tilling him he was correct so make me look a bigger idiot by publishing your proof. You're speaking to me now not one of your lieutenants or happy clappers so do me a favour and get lost. Go play with your Avatar that shows a monkey dressed in finery and drinking wine but sat in front of a plate of bananas. Nice symbolism coming from a person with your views. Don't suppose you remember bananas being thrown at black players or Monkey chants. Fine Avatar you chose
there you racist cretin

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:43 pm

mm3260 wrote:
Jock wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:
Sven wrote:Because they're black and the perpetrators of said crimes don't like it, as it reduces their 'right of freedom to act in an anti-social and murderous manner'...?

Glasgow is a glowing example of how 'stop and search' works; and if you've nothing to hide... ;)

"We don't like it..." is not a reason to defer using it to keep the streets as safe as is possible :ayatollah:


I quite agree with you if stop and search is used in a responsible was. My challenge was that the other poster dismissed the figures about stop and search disparity and the animosity it can cause. He trivialised its effect on a sub population. Not all blacks in a supposed black area are criminals and yes if you got nothing to hide there's no problem. The problem comes when you have to prove you've nothing to hide 3 times a week and twice on Sundays


How much of a prick do you look now, with your last post being yet another lie, but fortunately one that I covered in my big post pointing out all your other lies.

My friend, it appears you are a mythomaniac, an interesting pathological mental condition that centres around compulsive lying

Either that or just a bit of a nob.

:lol:


Wow you been busy. That's why you took so long to answer. I will leave it at this because i don't read everything that you say to other posters, WHERE IS YOUR PROOF that the murderers were BLM and please don't hate me because i was able to ascertain your mental state/problems by reading your replies to me. I qualified my statements by saying i wished you well if mental health issues ailed you and that is a sincere wish. To me there was/is something wrong with the way you play to the audience and seek approval. If you would rather hate me, do it under your breath or even in a pm in the way i know you want to. Ps language starting to slip again and I LOVE IT. Ta Ta my little Grand Wizard xx


I don't hate you. I pity you. You claim to be a 72-year-old man and you're consumed by hatred and you've just proven yourself to be a pathological liar. Either that or your just another troll living a fantasy life behind a keyboard.

Either way, I'd wager there is a lot more love, joy and happiness in my life than you have ever/will ever know :thumbup:

I’m astonished he’s 72, he argues like a student. Proves beyond doubt age doesn’t always bring wisdom.
My last word on this. Black guy in London said on Telly, I welcome stop and search because the more stop and search the less chance my Son has of getting stabbed.


are you really using the views of 1 person in over a Million Black people in London to justify your idiotic statement?? You who have a pathological hatred of Celtic and their supporters. I suppose you would know more about prejudice and exclusion because of this.

You see the problem here is that people like you make sweeping statements and assumptions based on you own value set. It really is incredible that you think 1 guy who shares your views is representative of a Million plus people. Do me a favour Jock and stick to the old firm

Bwhahahahah what a crank you are, I’m not sure if you’re real or an extremist parody. FairPlay you’ve made me laugh.

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:47 pm

mm3260 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:You who have a pathological hatred of Celtic and their supporters. I suppose you would know more about prejudice and exclusion because of this.


Sweeping statement...

... next sentence

mm3260 wrote:You see the problem here is that people like you make sweeping statements and assumptions based on you own value set


This is becoming a masterclass in how to look like an idiot.

:lol:


"I suppose you would know" is a sweeping statement?? God are you really that thick you imbecile? "


Technically an imbecile is a grade above an idiot, by a margin of about 25 points on an IQ scale.

“Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.”
Mark Twain


You're going to burn yourself up with all that anger stuffed inside you matey, like I said I pity you, it must have been one hell of a shitty life to have led to end up at 72 so bitter that you would use the death of your own niece as justification for mocking those with mental health issues (not specifically me, but anyone who has suffered).

Either that our your just living out a fantasy life behind a keyboard.

Either way, you should understand that you have now boxed yourself into a position where nothing you say holds validity as you have been proven consistently to not only be a liar, but an exceptionally poor one who doesn't understand how easy it is to show those lies up for what they were when we can go back and see old posts.

The only option you have left now is to use ad-hominem attack and claim racism, but the latter is a busted flush. Your own words condemned you time and time again, you played the card too many times and got caught out on it.

All your left with is petty insults, and you can't even get those right. :lol:

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:10 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:You who have a pathological hatred of Celtic and their supporters. I suppose you would know more about prejudice and exclusion because of this.


Sweeping statement...

... next sentence

mm3260 wrote:You see the problem here is that people like you make sweeping statements and assumptions based on you own value set


This is becoming a masterclass in how to look like an idiot.

:lol:


"I suppose you would know" is a sweeping statement?? God are you really that thick you imbecile? "


Technically an imbecile is a grade above an idiot, by a margin of about 25 points on an IQ scale.

“Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.”
Mark Twain


You're going to burn yourself up with all that anger stuffed inside you matey, like I said I pity you, it must have been one hell of a shitty life to have led to end up at 72 so bitter that you would use the death of your own niece as justification for mocking those with mental health issues (not specifically me, but anyone who has suffered).

Either that our your just living out a fantasy life behind a keyboard.

Either way, you should understand that you have now boxed yourself into a position where nothing you say holds validity as you have been proven consistently to not only be a liar, but an exceptionally poor one who doesn't understand how easy it is to show those lies up for what they were when we can go back and see old posts.

The only option you have left now is to use ad-hominem attack and claim racism, but the latter is a busted flush. Your own words condemned you time and time again, you played the card too many times and got caught out on it.

All your left with is petty insults, and you can't even get those right. :lol:


As i said get lost and leave me alone unless you want to provide the proof about your BLM looters. You made your statement but have continually refused to provide your proof. I wonder why? Your words condemn you as does your Avatar. I have tolerated your rants because of your obvious mental health issues but now is the time to say enough of you and begone you spawn of Satan. I hope 2021 gives you everything you deserve xx

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:29 pm

mm3260 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:You who have a pathological hatred of Celtic and their supporters. I suppose you would know more about prejudice and exclusion because of this.


Sweeping statement...

... next sentence

mm3260 wrote:You see the problem here is that people like you make sweeping statements and assumptions based on you own value set


This is becoming a masterclass in how to look like an idiot.

:lol:



"I suppose you would know" is a sweeping statement?? God are you really that thick you imbecile? "


Technically an imbecile is a grade above an idiot, by a margin of about 25 points on an IQ scale.

“Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.”
Mark Twain


You're going to burn yourself up with all that anger stuffed inside you matey, like I said I pity you, it must have been one hell of a shitty life to have led to end up at 72 so bitter that you would use the death of your own niece as justification for mocking those with mental health issues (not specifically me, but anyone who has suffered).

Either that our your just living out a fantasy life behind a keyboard.

Either way, you should understand that you have now boxed yourself into a position where nothing you say holds validity as you have been proven consistently to not only be a liar, but an exceptionally poor one who doesn't understand how easy it is to show those lies up for what they were when we can go back and see old posts.

The only option you have left now is to use ad-hominem attack and claim racism, but the latter is a busted flush. Your own words condemned you time and time again, you played the card too many times and got caught out on it.

All your left with is petty insults, and you can't even get those right. :lol:


As i said get lost and leave me alone unless you want to provide the proof about your BLM looters. You made your statement but have continually refused to provide your proof. I wonder why? Your words condemn you as does your Avatar. I have tolerated your rants because of your obvious mental health issues but now is the time to say enough of you and begone you spawn of Satan. I hope 2021 gives you everything you deserve xx


:lol:

Picks a fight and then runs for cover when someone stands up to him. Classic bully-boy tactics.

Problem is all of the aggressive moves you made are there for all to see.

You made the bed. You lie in it.

You've called me many, many offensive names and just keep on doubling down on them. You've accused me of being racist without a single piece of evidence and keep doubling down on it. You mocked me for being a mental health sufferer, and then doubled down on doing it (despite having allegedly seen first hand the destruction it can bring to a family)

All of these things are open for all to see.

And now, after all of this, you decide that you want me to get lost and leave you alone?

:laughing5:

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:52 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:
ealing_ayatollah wrote:
mm3260 wrote:You who have a pathological hatred of Celtic and their supporters. I suppose you would know more about prejudice and exclusion because of this.


Sweeping statement...

... next sentence

mm3260 wrote:You see the problem here is that people like you make sweeping statements and assumptions based on you own value set


This is becoming a masterclass in how to look like an idiot.

:lol:



"I suppose you would know" is a sweeping statement?? God are you really that thick you imbecile? "


Technically an imbecile is a grade above an idiot, by a margin of about 25 points on an IQ scale.

“Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured.”
Mark Twain


You're going to burn yourself up with all that anger stuffed inside you matey, like I said I pity you, it must have been one hell of a shitty life to have led to end up at 72 so bitter that you would use the death of your own niece as justification for mocking those with mental health issues (not specifically me, but anyone who has suffered).

Either that our your just living out a fantasy life behind a keyboard.

Either way, you should understand that you have now boxed yourself into a position where nothing you say holds validity as you have been proven consistently to not only be a liar, but an exceptionally poor one who doesn't understand how easy it is to show those lies up for what they were when we can go back and see old posts.

The only option you have left now is to use ad-hominem attack and claim racism, but the latter is a busted flush. Your own words condemned you time and time again, you played the card too many times and got caught out on it.

All your left with is petty insults, and you can't even get those right. :lol:


As i said get lost and leave me alone unless you want to provide the proof about your BLM looters. You made your statement but have continually refused to provide your proof. I wonder why? Your words condemn you as does your Avatar. I have tolerated your rants because of your obvious mental health issues but now is the time to say enough of you and begone you spawn of Satan. I hope 2021 gives you everything you deserve xx


:lol:

Picks a fight and then runs for cover when someone stands up to him. Classic bully-boy tactics.

Problem is all of the aggressive moves you made are there for all to see.

You made the bed. You lie in it.

You've called me many, many offensive names and just keep on doubling down on them. You've accused me of being racist without a single piece of evidence and keep doubling down on it. You mocked me for being a mental health sufferer, and then doubled down on doing it (despite having allegedly seen first hand the destruction it can bring to a family)

All of these things are open for all to see.

And now, after all of this, you decide that you want me to get lost and leave you alone?

:laughing5:

Chief arguing with this idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. He ain’t got a clue what he is doing and will just shit all over the board.
I’m guessing the way he writes and language and phrases he uses he certainly ain’t the age he claims to be. The way he speaks or writes sorry I would guess he is in his 20s or 30s. It’s a waste of your time and energy arguing if I was you stick him on ignore or block him then you wasn’t see his posts and he won’t see yours :thumbup:

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 1:58 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Chief arguing with this idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. He ain’t got a clue what he is doing and will just shit all over the board.
I’m guessing the way he writes and language and phrases he uses he certainly ain’t the age he claims to be. The way he speaks or writes sorry I would guess he is in his 20s or 30s. It’s a waste of your time and energy arguing if I was you stick him on ignore or block him then you wasn’t see his posts and he won’t see yours :thumbup:

Yeah, I here you man. Just don't want his accusations to go unchallenged. Think you're right though. don't think he is a nothing more than a troll living out some weird fantasy life. I don't know whats sadder, to be honest, being an actual 72-year-old who full of bitterness and anger or pretending to be one :lol:

Will be using that pidgeon line at some point - class comment :laughing5:

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Tue Jan 05, 2021 11:50 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Chief arguing with this idiot is like playing chess with a pigeon. He ain’t got a clue what he is doing and will just shit all over the board.
I’m guessing the way he writes and language and phrases he uses he certainly ain’t the age he claims to be. The way he speaks or writes sorry I would guess he is in his 20s or 30s. It’s a waste of your time and energy arguing if I was you stick him on ignore or block him then you wasn’t see his posts and he won’t see yours :thumbup:


:laughing5:

Mate by all means post these half baked threads about BLM, Trump, marxism etc etc.... But never imply you are more intellectually mature than anyone on here PLEASE. It was only a week or two ago you were posting a youtube vid of Biden awkwardly hugging a girl and proclaiming it was evidence he was a paedophile...

Re: Taking the knee and the BLM Connection

Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:47 am

Right for some of you on here I did not write this article IT IS NOT MY WORK but it’s a cracking read and the truth.


Mrxist BLM, learn more here;

Anyone worth listening to agrees that black lives matter. But what does the organisation ‘Black Lives Matter’ stand for? Worryingly, for the 34,000 Brits who have topped up BLM UK’s coffers with over £1million in recent weeks, finding out is no easy task.

Despite being inundated with donations, BLM UK does not appear to have its own website and is not a registered charity. What’s more, the group is resisting calls for it to become one. So why won’t it? ‘A charity structure would not allow us the freedom and flexibility to do our political work in the ways we wish to do them,’ according to BLM UK. What then is that political work? Here are 11 things that BLM UK advocates that might make some supporters think twice about backing the organisation:

1. BLM wants to ‘dismantle capitalism’

This objective might come as a shock to many of those who have donated to the BLM cause. It might come as a particular surprise to Premier League footballers like Man City’s Kevin De Bruyne, whose shirt at Monday’s game against Burnley was emblazoned with the organisation’s slogan. De Bruyne is City’s top earner and is paid £350,000 a week. It is unlikely he would fare as well without capitalism.

2. BLM says climate change is 'racist'

BLM’s attempt to blockade Heathrow and London City airports in 2016 was greeted with widespread bemusement. Why was ‘Black Lives Matter’ trying to stop people going on holiday? The answer: ‘Climate crisis is a racist crisis,’ the group said on its Twitter feed. ‘Black people are the first to die, not the first to fly, in this racist climate crisis,’ it added.

3. BLM wants to abolish prisons

‘Prisons and detention centres should be abolished,’ BLM UK has said. It seems likely that Britain’s 80,000 prisoners would approve, but do the thousands who have donated to BLM also back this policy? And what should happen to those convicted of violent crimes like murder if there are no prisons?

4. BLM wants to get rid of borders

Britain’s borders are ‘enforced by extreme violence,’ according to BLM UK, which proposes that open borders might be the answer.

5. BLM says unemployment is 'violence'

Not having a job is miserable, but is it really 'violence'? Yes, according to BLM UK.

6. BLM condemns stop and search

Tragically, a quarter of those killed with a knife in Britain last year were black. This is the highest proportion since records began more than twenty years ago. Stop and search is far from perfect but it is a key strategy for police to ensure that more black teenagers don’t have their lives cut short. Yet BLM describes an uptick in what it calls 'racist' stop and search as ‘violence’.

7. BLM wants to get rid of the police

The group says it seeks to ‘develop’ and ‘deliver...strategies for the abolition of police’

8. BLM says the government appointment of a Pakistani heritage woman is 'racist'

Munira Mirza is something of a great British success story. Mirza, a working-class northerner of Pakistani heritage, was the only pupil in her sixth form to win a place at Oxford. Mirza now heads up the No.10 policy unit. So how did BLM react when she was tasked by the PM with setting up a commission on racial inequality? ‘This appointment is racist,' BLM UK said.

9. BLM condemned the suffragettes

Suffragettes ultimately secured the vote for women in Britain. A progressive step? BLM UK doesn't appear to be convinced: 'Despite what you might've learned at school, many suffragettes were also working to advance White power,' the organisation has tweeted.

10. BLM said Churchill is 'staunchly racist'

Without Churchill it seems all but certain that Britain would have lost the war to Nazi Germany. And yet while Churchill was clearly no saint, is it fair to describe him – as BLM does on its Facebook page – as 'staunchly racist'?

11. BLM describes big charities as 'colonisers'

'Big charities are nothing more than colonisers repackaged for the 21st century,' according to BLM on its official UK Facebook page.

As a result of some of these policies, aims and statements coming to light, there is growing disquiet among supporters who have stumped up cash only to discover what BLM UK really stands for. BLM UK is also continuing to resist calls to be more transparent about its leadership because of concerns about a possible threat from far-right activists. Instead, in responding to questions about who runs it, BLM UK says: ‘We assure you all organisers involved with BLM UK are Black (not politically black, Black and of the African and Caribbean diaspora) and the funds raised will be diligently used to transform the nature of Black life in the UK.'