“ After 11 Years “

The facts are that Tan’s 11years have been our most successful since the 1920’s and certainly in my 60 years supporting our club! Yet some of our supporters continue to criticise him, all I can say to them is if they know a Billionaire who wants to buy us and waste millions please contact Mr Tan as I’m sure he will sell? But history has taught us that the grass is not always greener!

false success mate, never lasted long and never enjoyed it due to the politics and our soul ripped out

What in the world does "false success" even mean, please elaborate.

Blue to red so wasn't the true Cardiff city.play off / cup finals but lost the lot. Tan has achieved nothing in common with every owner we've had as far back as the mid 50s when we had a few seasons in the top flight.

Well that makes perfect sense

Did I dream being in the premier league in blue?

Let's go back to the old 3rd division days is it? At least we won't have Tan screwing things up.

Without him thats exactly where we would be now or worse.

Vincent tan has achieved pretty much everything every supporter of this club has ever dreamed of and thought impossible 10 years ago.

that for sure I never dreamed the club I supported since 1975 the bluebirds would suddenly appear in red with a red dragon for a badge .

Did you dream they would play in the premier league in a blue kit with a bluebird on the badge?

Did you dream of multi million pound signings every season ?

Did you dream of cup finals ?

Did you dream of play off contention?

Did you dream of big name managers?

Did you dream of financial security?

Did you dream of some of the best and biggest name Welsh international players pulling on a city shirt

Did you dream about international world class players like Medel and Camarasa coming to play for us ?

All these things made possible by Vincent Tan . All anyone ever remembers is his one misjudgement which is massive unfair he has made up for that time and time again and continues to do so

Spot on ! 100%%%%

The facts are that Tan’s 11years have been our most successful since the 1920’s and certainly in my 60 years supporting our club! Yet some of our supporters continue to criticise him, all I can say to them is if they know a Billionaire who wants to buy us and waste millions please contact Mr Tan as I’m sure he will sell? But history has taught us that the grass is not always greener!

false success mate, never lasted long and never enjoyed it due to the politics and our soul ripped out

What in the world does "false success" even mean, please elaborate.

Blue to red so wasn't the true Cardiff city.play off / cup finals but lost the lot. Tan has achieved nothing in common with every owner we've had as far back as the mid 50s when we had a few seasons in the top flight.

Well that makes perfect sense

Did I dream being in the premier league in blue?

Let's go back to the old 3rd division days is it? At least we won't have Tan screwing things up.

Without him thats exactly where we would be now or worse.

Vincent tan has achieved pretty much everything every supporter of this club has ever dreamed of and thought impossible 10 years ago.

that for sure I never dreamed the club I supported since 1975 the bluebirds would suddenly appear in red with a red dragon for a badge .

Did you dream they would play in the premier league in a blue kit with a bluebird on the badge?

Did you dream of multi million pound signings every season ?

Did you dream of cup finals ?

Did you dream of play off contention?

Did you dream of big name managers?

Did you dream of financial security?

Did you dream of some of the best and biggest name Welsh international players pulling on a city shirt

Did you dream about international world class players like Medel and Camarasa coming to play for us ?

All these things made possible by Vincent Tan . All anyone ever remembers is his one misjudgement which is massive unfair he has made up for that time and time again and continues to do so

I will answer that in one sentence “ I would rather have kept our identity and our proper badge” than have any false glory.

As to Finals etc we were already at Wembley before Tan arrived that’s exactly why he joined us.

As to the Premier League, I hated our first promotion and I hated it up there , a total disaster.

We had No pride or identity.

The facts are that Tan’s 11years have been our most successful since the 1920’s and certainly in my 60 years supporting our club! Yet some of our supporters continue to criticise him, all I can say to them is if they know a Billionaire who wants to buy us and waste millions please contact Mr Tan as I’m sure he will sell? But history has taught us that the grass is not always greener!

false success mate, never lasted long and never enjoyed it due to the politics and our soul ripped out

What in the world does "false success" even mean, please elaborate.

Blue to red so wasn't the true Cardiff city.play off / cup finals but lost the lot. Tan has achieved nothing in common with every owner we've had as far back as the mid 50s when we had a few seasons in the top flight.

Well that makes perfect sense

Did I dream being in the premier league in blue?

Let's go back to the old 3rd division days is it? At least we won't have Tan screwing things up.

Without him thats exactly where we would be now or worse.

Vincent tan has achieved pretty much everything every supporter of this club has ever dreamed of and thought impossible 10 years ago.

that for sure I never dreamed the club I supported since 1975 the bluebirds would suddenly appear in red with a red dragon for a badge .

Did you dream they would play in the premier league in a blue kit with a bluebird on the badge?

Did you dream of multi million pound signings every season ?

Did you dream of cup finals ?

Did you dream of play off contention?

Did you dream of big name managers?

Did you dream of financial security?

Did you dream of some of the best and biggest name Welsh international players pulling on a city shirt

Did you dream about international world class players like Medel and Camarasa coming to play for us ?

All these things made possible by Vincent Tan . All anyone ever remembers is his one misjudgement which is massive unfair he has made up for that time and time again and continues to do so

I will answer that in one sentence “ I would rather have kept our identity and our proper badge” than have any false glory.

As to Finals etc we were already at Wembley before Tan arrived that’s exactly why he joined us.

As to the Premier League, I hated our first promotion and I hated it up there , a total disaster.

We had No pride or identity.

The rebrand was awful for everybody and he was massively misadvised on that subject by whoever was responsible at the time. He listened to the fans and changed it back and has kept to his word ever since even backing us a second time massively to get back up and play in Blue.

But there has to come a time where he is forgiven for his one mistake

Also I believe Tan was our owner when Malkey took us to Wembley for the league Cup final so yes he has taken us to finals.

The facts are that Tan’s 11years have been our most successful since the 1920’s and certainly in my 60 years supporting our club! Yet some of our supporters continue to criticise him, all I can say to them is if they know a Billionaire who wants to buy us and waste millions please contact Mr Tan as I’m sure he will sell? But history has taught us that the grass is not always greener!

false success mate, never lasted long and never enjoyed it due to the politics and our soul ripped out

What in the world does "false success" even mean, please elaborate.

Blue to red so wasn't the true Cardiff city.play off / cup finals but lost the lot. Tan has achieved nothing in common with every owner we've had as far back as the mid 50s when we had a few seasons in the top flight.

Well that makes perfect sense

Did I dream being in the premier league in blue?

Let's go back to the old 3rd division days is it? At least we won't have Tan screwing things up.

Without him thats exactly where we would be now or worse.

Vincent tan has achieved pretty much everything every supporter of this club has ever dreamed of and thought impossible 10 years ago.

that for sure I never dreamed the club I supported since 1975 the bluebirds would suddenly appear in red with a red dragon for a badge .

Did you dream they would play in the premier league in a blue kit with a bluebird on the badge?

Did you dream of multi million pound signings every season ?

Did you dream of cup finals ?

Did you dream of play off contention?

Did you dream of big name managers?

Did you dream of financial security?

Did you dream of some of the best and biggest name Welsh international players pulling on a city shirt

Did you dream about international world class players like Medel and Camarasa coming to play for us ?

All these things made possible by Vincent Tan . All anyone ever remembers is his one misjudgement which is massive unfair he has made up for that time and time again and continues to do so

I will answer that in one sentence “ I would rather have kept our identity and our proper badge” than have any false glory.

As to Finals etc we were already at Wembley before Tan arrived that’s exactly why he joined us.

As to the Premier League, I hated our first promotion and I hated it up there , a total disaster.

We had No pride or identity.

All Thomas' points except the one about cup finals applies to our seasons since our return to blue.

We played in the PL with a bluebird and a blue kit.

3 of our 4 most expensive signings came in blue 2 years ago.

We finished and competed in the play offs, in blue.

We signed one of the greatest Championship managers in blue.

We have financial security in blue.

Moore, Wilson, Vaulks and several other Welsh internationals have signed and played for us in blue.

What did you think of our second PL season? When we were in blue, with our pride, our identity, a united fan base backing the team home and away?

Spot on annis 100% correct.

Spot on annis 100% correct.

Oops it for muddled up




I will answer that in one sentence “ I would rather have kept our identity and our proper badge” than have any false glory.

As to Finals etc we were already at Wembley before Tan arrived that’s exactly why he joined us.

As to the Premier League, I hated our first promotion and I hated it up there , a total disaster.

We had No pride or identity.spot on annis 100% correct

The facts are that Tan’s 11years have been our most successful since the 1920’s and certainly in my 60 years supporting our club! Yet some of our supporters continue to criticise him, all I can say to them is if they know a Billionaire who wants to buy us and waste millions please contact Mr Tan as I’m sure he will sell? But history has taught us that the grass is not always greener!

false success mate, never lasted long and never enjoyed it due to the politics and our soul ripped out

What in the world does "false success" even mean, please elaborate.

Blue to red so wasn't the true Cardiff city.play off / cup finals but lost the lot. Tan has achieved nothing in common with every owner we've had as far back as the mid 50s when we had a few seasons in the top flight.

Well that makes perfect sense

Did I dream being in the premier league in blue?

Let's go back to the old 3rd division days is it? At least we won't have Tan screwing things up.

Without him thats exactly where we would be now or worse.

Vincent tan has achieved pretty much everything every supporter of this club has ever dreamed of and thought impossible 10 years ago.

that for sure I never dreamed the club I supported since 1975 the bluebirds would suddenly appear in red with a red dragon for a badge .

Did you dream they would play in the premier league in a blue kit with a bluebird on the badge?

Did you dream of multi million pound signings every season ?

Did you dream of cup finals ?

Did you dream of play off contention?

Did you dream of big name managers?

Did you dream of financial security?

Did you dream of some of the best and biggest name Welsh international players pulling on a city shirt

Did you dream about international world class players like Medel and Camarasa coming to play for us ?

All these things made possible by Vincent Tan . All anyone ever remembers is his one misjudgement which is massive unfair he has made up for that time and time again and continues to do so

I will answer that in one sentence “ I would rather have kept our identity and our proper badge” than have any false glory.

As to Finals etc we were already at Wembley before Tan arrived that’s exactly why he joined us.

As to the Premier League, I hated our first promotion and I hated it up there , a total disaster.

We had No pride or identity.

All Thomas' points except the one about cup finals applies to our seasons since our return to blue.

We played in the PL with a bluebird and a blue kit.

3 of our 4 most expensive signings came in blue 2 years ago.

We finished and competed in the play offs, in blue.

We signed one of the greatest Championship managers in blue.

We have financial security in blue.

Moore, Wilson, Vaulks and several other Welsh internationals have signed and played for us in blue.

What did you think of our second PL season? When we were in blue, with our pride, our identity, a united fan base backing the team home and away?

I will answer that in one sentence “ I would rather have kept our identity and our proper badge” than have any false glory.

As to Finals etc we were already at Wembley before Tan arrived that’s exactly why he joined us.

As to the Premier League, I hated our first promotion and I hated it up there , a total disaster.

Why is it that when it suits certain arguments like how much Tan has spent then we have been in the premier league twice and squandered the money that came with it but when it comes to success under Tan then we have only been in there once as it wasn't really cardiff as we played in red ?

Maybe that chain of thought should be used in the other posts about all the parachute money that has been wasted

All Thomas' points except the one about cup finals applies to our seasons since our return to blue.

We played in the PL with a bluebird and a blue kit.

3 of our 4 most expensive signings came in blue 2 years ago.

We finished and competed in the play offs, in blue.

We signed one of the greatest Championship managers in blue.

We have financial security in blue.

Moore, Wilson, Vaulks and several other Welsh internationals have signed and played for us in blue.

What did you think of our second PL season? When we were in blue, with our pride, our identity, a united fan base backing the team home and away?

I will answer that in one sentence “ I would rather have kept our identity and our proper badge” than have any false glory.

As to Finals etc we were already at Wembley before Tan arrived that’s exactly why he joined us.

As to the Premier League, I hated our first promotion and I hated it up there , a total disaster.

I think you've replied to the wrong post? I'm asking about since the return to blue and what are your thoughts on the last 6 years?

All Thomas' points except the one about cup finals applies to our seasons since our return to blue.

We played in the PL with a bluebird and a blue kit.

3 of our 4 most expensive signings came in blue 2 years ago.

We finished and competed in the play offs, in blue.

We signed one of the greatest Championship managers in blue.

We have financial security in blue.

Moore, Wilson, Vaulks and several other Welsh internationals have signed and played for us in blue.

What did you think of our second PL season? When we were in blue, with our pride, our identity, a united fan base backing the team home and away?

I will answer that in one sentence “ I would rather have kept our identity and our proper badge” than have any false glory.

As to Finals etc we were already at Wembley before Tan arrived that’s exactly why he joined us.

As to the Premier League, I hated our first promotion and I hated it up there , a total disaster.

I think you've replied to the wrong post? I'm asking about since the return to blue and what are your thoughts on the last 6 years?

I did sorry it all got muddled up


What this thread shows is how much passion our fans have for our club and how much we all care, but just different views / opinions

I was around in the days when we were managed by the likes of Kenny Hibbert Russel Osman and Phil Neal and owned by the Kumar brothers. Compared to those day the last eleven years have been paradise.

I had to laugh. Some of the idiotic things being written here embarrassing. The jacks must be pissing them selves at us and our spoilt brat behaviour once again.

Ye been really been spoilt 45 years waiting for the club to establish itself in the top flight and lift a trophy.

How can anyone moan about our clubs position?

It wasn’t that long ago we were all but propping up the FL.

FCS if we got 5000 at NP for a game versus Bristol Rovers or swansea it was a huge achievement.

When I was a kid, the very thought we’d be in the top league was a dream. The closest we got was on 71. I was inconsolable after losing at home v Watford and then thrashed at Bramall Lane, and apart from the few promotions from Divs 3 & 4, until first Hamman and then Tan came along I had grown accustomed to the prospect of lower league ups and downs and the odd Cup run.

I can’t really recount the number of amazing games I’ve seen this century and seeing a stadium b full is just something I never thought I’d see

And fans are moaning at our present position.

Get real.

How can anyone moan about our clubs position?

It wasn’t that long ago we were all but propping up the FL.

FCS if we got 5000 at NP for a game versus Bristol Rovers or swansea it was a huge achievement.

When I was a kid, the very thought we’d be in the top league was a dream. The closest we got was on 71. I was inconsolable after losing at home v Watford and then thrashed at Bramall Lane, and apart from the few promotions from Divs 3 & 4, until first Hamman and then Tan came along I had grown accustomed to the prospect of lower league ups and downs and the odd Cup run.

I can’t really recount the number of amazing games I’ve seen this century and seeing a stadium b full is just something I never thought I’d see

And fans are moaning at our present position.

Get real.

Do I remember those games against Watford and Sheff Utd. I also remember the crowd going quiet during half time for the Sheff Utd v Watford game where we needed Watford to beat the Blades. Sheff Utd 2 Watford 0 said the announcer and our season was over. It ended 3-0 to the Blades.

We should have gone up that season but we didn't. I watched us drop to the dungeon league in 1987 then left the country. No I didn't leave because of that but I always had the belief we would get to the top division. Sam started that belief and nearly got us there. Then Tan came along and I thought he would be the final push to get us established in the Premier. How wrong I was on that bit.

Why is it that when it suits certain arguments like how much Tan has spent then we have been in the premier league twice and squandered the money that came with it but when it comes to success under Tan then we have only been in there once as it wasn't really cardiff as we played in red ?

Maybe that chain of thought should be used in the other posts about all the parachute money that has been wasted

So you mean the 36m for this season? Simply put..........wages!
Who squandered the money? Would that be the managers?? They are the ones that identify and propose a move for the player they want,then do their best to persuade the committee to go for it.

What about the badge change under hammam? No different imho,but that was brushed under the carpet.

Tan made a monumental mistake changing to red,of this we ALL agree,but didnt he say at the time
"We can go back to blue,but no more investment "??
And yet he has continued to invest money for players/staff/wages.some people want the penny and the biscuit, and thats their choice,but to keep slagging off the very man thats keeping this clubs head above water, in very testing circumstances indeed,seems daft to me.
If I were him,id be gone by now,but he has integrity if nothing else,otherwise why is he still here??

I neither love or hate Tan, he's just another Cardiff City owner in a long line of owners. He's certainly not the devil as some make him out to be but he's also not a saint as some others will have you believe, he's somewhere between the two and until someone comes along with a big wallet who loves Cardiff City as much as we do probably one of the better owners we could have asked for.

Sure it could be better (Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha) but it could also be a lot worse (Venky's).

Why is it that when it suits certain arguments like how much Tan has spent then we have been in the premier league twice and squandered the money that came with it but when it comes to success under Tan then we have only been in there once as it wasn't really cardiff as we played in red ?

Maybe that chain of thought should be used in the other posts about all the parachute money that has been wasted

So you mean the 36m for this season? Simply put..........wages!
Who squandered the money? Would that be the managers?? They are the ones that identify and propose a move for the player they want,then do their best to persuade the committee to go for it.

What about the badge change under hammam? No different imho,but that was brushed under the carpet.

Tan made a monumental mistake changing to red,of this we ALL agree,but didnt he say at the time
"We can go back to blue,but no more investment "??
And yet he has continued to invest money for players/staff/wages.some people want the penny and the biscuit, and thats their choice,but to keep slagging off the very man thats keeping this clubs head above water, in very testing circumstances indeed,seems daft to me.
If I were him,id be gone by now,but he has integrity if nothing else,otherwise why is he still here??

I agree with you

My point is point is some people on here refuse to give credit to Tan for taking us up in red saying that wasn't Cardiff city but at the same time abuse him for money he spent in that period. They cant have it both ways. If those two seasons were not Cardiff then a few things didn't not happen .

Malky was never Cardiff manager so they can't say Tan was wrong to sack him
We never wasted £13 mill on Cornelius
The stadium never got extended
We didn't get £150mill plus Premier money
We didn't have the parachute payments either
We never signed Solskjaer
We never got to a cup final

None of that happened as Cardiff city so they can't use it to beat Tan with.

How can anyone moan about our clubs position?

It wasn’t that long ago we were all but propping up the FL.

FCS if we got 5000 at NP for a game versus Bristol Rovers or swansea it was a huge achievement.

When I was a kid, the very thought we’d be in the top league was a dream. The closest we got was on 71. I was inconsolable after losing at home v Watford and then thrashed at Bramall Lane, and apart from the few promotions from Divs 3 & 4, until first Hamman and then Tan came along I had grown accustomed to the prospect of lower league ups and downs and the odd Cup run.

I can’t really recount the number of amazing games I’ve seen this century and seeing a stadium b full is just something I never thought I’d see

And fans are moaning at our present position.

Get real.

Do I remember those games against Watford and Sheff Utd. I also remember the crowd going quiet during half time for the Sheff Utd v Watford game where we needed Watford to beat the Blades. Sheff Utd 2 Watford 0 said the announcer and our season was over. It ended 3-0 to the Blades.

We should have gone up that season but we didn't. I watched us drop to the dungeon league in 1987 then left the country. No I didn't leave because of that but I always had the belief we would get to the top division. Sam started that belief and nearly got us there. Then Tan came along and I thought he would be the final push to get us established in the Premier. Now wrong I was on that bit.

Tan is not finished yet and could still easily get us established in the premier league with another push and a bit of luck which we didn't have either time

The facts are only what you want to see

The u23s have a average age of 19 because they moved most of the u18s up a grade early whilst at the same time either releasing/loaning out the more experienced players or bringing the better ones into the first team like Harris and Bagan. That type of move results in a poor season result wise before it gradually improves. Actually the under 18s in 2019 won the league for the first time but thats all forgotten now. Given that the u18s last year are all now up a grade the same applys for the new u18s who are all very young.

The first team is not worse off, we are in a similar position as we were before but with a squad that is worth a lot more money. We have achieved promotion twice in that time.
10 years ago Man utd were in the top 4 of the premier league. They have spent nearly a billion pound since and they have not moved position .

The rebrand was a mistake which he was badly advised on at the time but he has more than made up for his one mistake at this club multiple times. Everybody deserves a second chance, there is not a single person on this board who is perfect.

Every court case he has entered would be in the best interests of Cardiff city. Why would he pay multi millions if there was a chance it was not correct and legal. He is well within his rights to ask the question whether he won or lost. Again everybody on here would do the same when it came down to it.

The Sala case will play out in the new year and we will see who is right or wrong

You cant say we've had 10 managers when you count David Kerslake, Danny Gabbidon and Scott Young who were temporary and Dave Jones who was already here. That leaves 6 permanent managers that have been appointed and 1 of them was only Slade who was only to clear a squad out.

Two of Tans appointments achieved promotion and another one got to the play offs so the boards record is actually not that bad.

The committee has over 25 year of top level football management between them and Tan alone is the 4th longest serving owner in the championship . I would say now they have a very good knowledge of the inner working of football.

They mY have recieved over £400million in the 10 years but have also spent over £200 of that on transfer fees. Add in the agent fees and 10 years of championship/premier league wages (£45million on premier league wages alone under Warnock) plus all the other day to day running costs of a football club and it doesnt go very far. Just smthrowing out a £400milloon figure without any context can make anybody look bad .

The facts are we are a very stable club under a very good owner

We currently have issues on the pitch but that happens to every club. Look at Arsenal at the moment .

I’m glad someone has pointed out the other side of the coin, some just like to bash Tan at every opportunity but never praise him for keeping us alive as a club. Best owner we’ve ever had a side from the rebrand which I hated, he has more than made up for that.
I agree the playing side of things at the moment is a shambles but that can be rectified in time which it will but I think most clubs’ fans would prefer that than not to have a club at all, just ask any Bury fans.
Well done for highlighting all that you have, things can and will only get better

All that and still arguably the best period in the clubs history or at least in living memory.
11 years, 1 Cup final, 3 play off finishes, 2 automatic promotions including winning the league, 2 seasons in the Premier League.

How many Championship teams can say the same.

Agree with this

Twice promoted to the Premier League for the 1st time in my lifetime

A new all seater paid for stadium with a brand new stand

New training facilities

Planning permission for the soon to be started state of the art academy facilities

Bulk of the debt turned to equity

Let’s have a bit of balance at least

There’s never any balance from the Tan bashers

Absolutely spot on.

Our owner and the board are a perfect example of how not to run a football club.

Mistakes after mistakes which they never learn from, and I'm sad to say they never will.

Some will defend them because they always do, but the reality is our club is run extremely badly from the very top.

Perfect example

I bet the Hull, Wigan, Sheff Weds, Bolton and Bury fans are all so pleased they don’t have Tan.

This ^^^

Also players paid on time , no high court visits . Also no threat of going bankrupt and losing our club . Beside the red fiasco ,Tan is the best owner we've ever had.

Still the best time since I started going to the city in1971.
Tan saved us from going under..
never bite the hand that feeds you.
So for me he has been one of the best owners.

Spot on

Nice to see real fans engaging their brains before opening their gob(so to speak).

A bit of whatiffery here.

Just say Sam Hamman had been responsible for the last 10yrs would you get the same people complaining?No,we'd just be celebrating 10yrs with no football club at all.

Take away the red disaster and many anti Tan posters would go away.

The same people moaning about the “debt” are also the ones whinging about managers not being given enough money to spend !!

Millions has been invested in facilities and the academy,it hasn’t worked but you can’t fault the investment.

To many of the anti-Tan posters Warnock was a great appointment as he knew football. He got us up for sure but when he came to spending Tan’s money on transfers his record was poor and did little for the debt. £10m on Murphy, £5m on Flint, £3m on Smithies and sat him on the bench, £10m on Decordova-Reid and sat him on the bench, £2-3mon Tomlin and sat him on the bench of loaned him out, etc.

Tan is ploughing millions in a month to keep us going and there is no queue around the block of either prospective new owners or even new investors.

We are stable, no weekly winding up orders or court cases (other than those against crooked ex-owners).

Yes we have a shit manager who should be getting more out of, what is clearly,a top six squad but let’s no gloss over what we had to put up with before Tan. That was scary, and at times I feared for the club’s actual future.

I will stand by My Opinion and hard facts

A Big question, a small club like Swansea, how the hell are they 2nd from top and many more yrs up in the Prem than us?
And we look more relegation candidates than promotion candidates

And kept their identity and badge.



“ After 11 yrs “


Sad true facts:

First team worse off than when he arrived and worth less over all.

U23’s a disaster

U18’s doing awful

What has the clubs Accademy brought through in the last 11yrs?

Every 2 yrs we hear about another clear out, new plans, new ideas, but No improvements on the pitch.


Debt higher than when Tan arrived after receiving nearly £400 mill after two promotions and all the revenue from merchandise and ticket sales and advertising.

Debt was £50-£60mill when he arrived rose to over £200mill.
Paying off now the debt Tan made.


Wasted £mills upon £mills on a despicable rebrand and due to that divided our fan base beyond and merchandise worst ever sales for Prem club and changing it all back cost beyond. Lasted nearly 4 years
My worst days of supporting Cardiff City in 49yrs

Lost court cases and had to settle big time with Langston twice , DJ, Riddler , Ole etc costing £mills

Now in another case over Sala fee.

6 CEO’S

10 managers and another one soon.

New Stadium was here before Tan.

Both seasons in Prem a disaster.


And Committee that No nothing about football and All live far away.



Current debt approx £85mill, nearly £20mill more than 11 yrs ago,but the the squad over all is not worth much.



We also had a sanction against us for FFP under this present regime.


Then Tan formed a Transfer Committee nearly 5 years ago after blaming previous managers for our high debt and bad transfers.

The Committee: Vincent Tan, Dalman and Ken Choo and who ever the manager is.
Tan goes over every players contract before they are given to players.


Two different Consortiums tried to buy us in the last 2 yrs, both fell through, one the club decided no and the other an American company pulled out after looking at our books.



FOR FOUR YEARS DUE TO TANS DESPICABLE RED WE WERE THE LAUGHING STOCK
OF FOOTBALL & HAVE WE GONE FORWARD? NO

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Most of these so called facts have already been addressed by multiple posters in this thread and shown to be hearsay, inaccurate or biased opinion not fact as stated.

There are two ways at looking at everything that has happened at this club and it all depends on your opinion of the owner and his one mistake regarding the rebrand.
Some people can't forgive so try and make him look bad saying things like we've had 10 managers when in reality its 6 full time unless you count the stand ins like kerslake , Gabbidon and Young along with Jones who was already here before Tan came.

No point going over the same ground with people who can't forgive someone for a mistake. Its pointless. Better to just let the minority have there little bash at the board whilst the majority supports what they are now doing to make up for it and have done for the last five years

Most of these so called facts have already been addressed by multiple posters in this thread and shown to be hearsay, inaccurate or biased opinion not fact as stated.

There are two ways at looking at everything that has happened at this club and it all depends on your opinion of the owner and his one mistake regarding the rebrand.
Some people can't forgive so try and make him look bad saying things like we've had 10 managers when in reality its 6 full time unless you count the stand ins like kerslake , Gabbidon and Young along with Jones who was already here before Tan came.

No point going over the same ground with people who can't forgive someone for a mistake. Its pointless. Better to just let the minority have there little bash at the board whilst the majority supports what they are now doing to make up for it and have done for the last five years

Or perhaps its because we were primed for Premier football as a club before Tan came but now it looks like we are going to be mid table Championship level if we are lucky. Rebrand or no rebrand but the fact here is we are going backwards.