OT: 'THE DONALD' EDGES TOWARDS THE DOOR

Good riddance to the orange baby man - lets hope Johnson, Duda and Orban follow shortly too. The world is a better place today

70m Americans disagree with you, many working class Black and Hispanic people voted for Trump. Biden/Harris will be every bit as divisive socially as Trump. Despite a relentless campaign by the political elite, MSM, Social Media, Multi Nationals and Academia to brand him a 21st century Hitler and anyone who voted for him an uneducated racist he almost hung on.

If Cardiff were winning 4 - o with 20 minutes to play and the other team decided to stop the game until tomorrow and the following day you found out you were 5 - 4 down with 20 minutes still to play as these mysterious goals had just appeared would you accept it?

Since we're going for extremely simplified football analogies now, here's an alternative one:

If Cardiff were winning 4-0 and my mate says "don't forget this is the second game of a two legged tie and the other team mailed, sorry, scored 5 goals a week ago so we're actually losing 5-4" would you wonder where these mysterious goals had just appeared from?

Time for some respite...?

https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=218306

'The Donald' will still be here when the game ends around 8pm...!

'The Donald' will still be here when the game ends around 8pm...!

Wonder if there's any flights from Washington DC to Moscow leaving in the next 2 hours... Hmmmm

Good riddance to the orange baby man - lets hope Johnson, Duda and Orban follow shortly too. The world is a better place today

70m Americans disagree with you, many working class Black and Hispanic people voted for Trump. Biden/Harris will be every bit as divisive socially as Trump. Despite a relentless campaign by the political elite, MSM, Social Media, Multi Nationals and Academia to brand him a 21st century Hitler and anyone who voted for him an uneducated racist he almost hung on.

By your own calculation, that means more than 70 million agree with me... Its not really about American politics for me, but its significance is that it signals the beginning of the end for the far right regimes here in Europe in particular. That can only be a good thing for anyone who cares about and has empathy for human beings who are less well off in all aspects of life. These people entirely disposable for the likes of Trump, Johnson, Cummings et al. Goodbye Donald - you won't be missed.

Good riddance to the orange baby man - lets hope Johnson, Duda and Orban follow shortly too. The world is a better place today

70m Americans disagree with you, many working class Black and Hispanic people voted for Trump. Biden/Harris will be every bit as divisive socially as Trump. Despite a relentless campaign by the political elite, MSM, Social Media, Multi Nationals and Academia to brand him a 21st century Hitler and anyone who voted for him an uneducated racist he almost hung on.

By your own calculation, that means more than 70 million agree with me... Its not really about American politics for me, but its significance is that it signals the beginning of the end for the far right regimes here in Europe in particular. That can only be a good thing for anyone who cares about and has empathy for human beings who are less well off in all aspects of life. These people entirely disposable for the likes of Trump, Johnson, Cummings et al. Goodbye Donald - you won't be missed.

HOORAY/.COM/END OF!!!!

If Cardiff were winning 4 - o with 20 minutes to play and the other team decided to stop the game until tomorrow and the following day you found out you were 5 - 4 down with 20 minutes still to play as these mysterious goals had just appeared would you accept it?

Since we're going for extremely simplified football analogies now, here's an alternative one:

If Cardiff were winning 4-0 and my mate says "don't forget this is the second game of a two legged tie and the other team mailed, sorry, scored 5 goals a week ago so we're actually losing 5-4" would you wonder where these mysterious goals had just appeared from?

i think he would be wondering how you knew there would be 5 goals... when nobody knew... and if we win by 5 the first leg would then have been magically by 6 etc....
this isnt something Trump has just conjured up he has consistently said it for a few years... mystic meg he aint...is he aware they have been throwing shit at him for 4 years and draw no lines yes he is...
if they have zero to hide and its all { extremely unlikely going on the last 4 years } above board... Biden will be president.. simple as that.... but the party doth complain to much...

I've read that apparently, a secret watermark was put on the ballets and all these late ballots coming in for Biden are to be investigated if they have the watermark. I think this is what's holding up the outcome.

I'm looking forward to seeing what unfolds. I think there are going to be a lot of sanctions coming in the near future.

The ballots being counted at the moment aren't ballots that have come in 'late'. They are mail in ballots that were received in good time. They would have ALL been counted by now, but in some states (e.g.Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) republican legislators did not allow mail-in ballots to be counted early.

As a result Trump can now spew bollocks about these mysterious 'late' mail in ballots coming out of nowhere when it's his own party that have caused this mess. Trump himself has been saying for weeks that his supporters shouldn't vote via mail in because it's prone to fraud, so it's hardly a surprise that these mail in ballots are predominantly Biden too, but again Trump has twisted it into a conspiracy.

been saying for weeks { its years actually } that mail in ballots are prone to fraud... correct..
its plain and clear what he thought and thinks...not sure where the twist is ?
maybe had the Biden people also encouraged voters turn up in person this wouldnt be happening ..?

I've read that apparently, a secret watermark was put on the ballets and all these late ballots coming in for Biden are to be investigated if they have the watermark. I think this is what's holding up the outcome.

I'm looking forward to seeing what unfolds. I think there are going to be a lot of sanctions coming in the near future.

The ballots being counted at the moment aren't ballots that have come in 'late'. They are mail in ballots that were received in good time. They would have ALL been counted by now, but in some states (e.g.Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) republican legislators did not allow mail-in ballots to be counted early.

As a result Trump can now spew bollocks about these mysterious 'late' mail in ballots coming out of nowhere when it's his own party that have caused this mess. Trump himself has been saying for weeks that his supporters shouldn't vote via mail in because it's prone to fraud, so it's hardly a surprise that these mail in ballots are predominantly Biden too, but again Trump has twisted it into a conspiracy.

been saying for weeks { its years actually } that mail in ballots are prone to fraud... correct..
its plain and clear what he thought and thinks...not sure where the twist is ?
maybe had the Biden people also encouraged voters turn up in person this wouldnt be happening ..?

Why should Biden have encouraged people to use in person voting instead of mail in voting? Biden encouraged people to use a legal voting method to vote, which they did.

Strange that Trump as President had 4 years to tackle this alleged issue in the US electoral system but he chose not to, then suddenly when he realises he's about to lose an election he feigns outrage and acts as thought his is something that he cares about. If 99% of people had used mail in votes and trump had won he wouldn't give a f**k. Him and his family use mail in voting themselves ffs!

253 - 214 ( 270 to win ) .

Surely if the democratic party has done nothing wrong they should embrace the legal challenges as these will prove once and for all that Biden was elected in a free and fair election?

They are & even republican installed judges are throwing the challenges out.

Stopping the count of votes until representatives of both parties can be witness to the process, especially in an election as close as this is a perfectly reasonable request.

Why do they need to stop the count only where trump is winning?

The question has to be asked why in Philadelphia did it require a judge order to allow republicans onsite to monitor the vote counting from closer than the 100 yards which the Democrat count process team were allowing them?

The judge originally told them to figure it out and come back, both sides were too childish to do so.

And who is too blame there, those who were not allowing the rules that both parties agreed to or those who have challenged them on that and had to take a legal route to enforce the other side plays by those rules?

They agreed to & followed the rules until it was looking like they might lose if counting continued then they wanted to move closer, why?

There are so many aspects to these results that need answers, Trump has fought against the machine for 5 years, he's not going to let himself be cheated from a second term at the death.

Everyone but trump's family & very closest friends are distancing themselves from him, why?

If the democrats were smart and innocent the best thing they can do is let the legal challenges come. If they've won fairly they've nothing to hide and it will make Trump look like a poor loser.

They have & he does, even the real fox news reporters are saying so.

Its a very big if though...

Not really

Sorry I missed you post didnt realise you had responded (was hard to spot as was all in one quote)

With respect a lot of what you say furthers my point.

If things are done by the book in a close election the democrats have nothing to fear then there is nothing to see all good.

Equally, Trump has every right to challenge what he sees as discrepancies 10K out of state voters in Nevada, dead people voting in Arizona (i may have the states mixes up but you get the point) in an election this close each and every possible case of voter fraud should be investigated.

Just for clarity as well, as it is widely misinterpreted, Trump's call for stopping the count wasn't 'stop thats it, we're done' it was more like 'stop counting until there can be verification on both sides in line with US law.'

This shouldn't be controversial and to be clear it is my belief it needs to be applied on both sides in equal fairness. Again, if there was no wrong doing, then there is no harm in making sure all these procedures were adhered to.

To be honest the fact that the republicans held the senate and made ground in the house (as far as I am aware) means I'm less fearful of the damage Harris can do now - I honestly believe Biden will be gone before the end of 2021, probably via the 25th ammendment, but i still firmly believe the world is a more danagerous place with a Harris/Biden government than a Trump/Pence one.

I doubt the peace accords in the middle East will last now, but if they do after all the furore dies down, these we'll be the true legacy of a truly remarkable president.

Equally, the ideas of liberty and self-empowerment that Trump instilled in many, many Americans and the breaking of the strangle hold the Democrats had over black and Hispanic voters will have a long impact far beyond the next four years.

If as is looking increasingly likely Trump is a one term president, history will look at him far kinder than the modern hacks that pass for journalists ever did.

I've read that apparently, a secret watermark was put on the ballets and all these late ballots coming in for Biden are to be investigated if they have the watermark. I think this is what's holding up the outcome.

I'm looking forward to seeing what unfolds. I think there are going to be a lot of sanctions coming in the near future.

The ballots being counted at the moment aren't ballots that have come in 'late'. They are mail in ballots that were received in good time. They would have ALL been counted by now, but in some states (e.g.Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) republican legislators did not allow mail-in ballots to be counted early.

As a result Trump can now spew bollocks about these mysterious 'late' mail in ballots coming out of nowhere when it's his own party that have caused this mess. Trump himself has been saying for weeks that his supporters shouldn't vote via mail in because it's prone to fraud, so it's hardly a surprise that these mail in ballots are predominantly Biden too, but again Trump has twisted it into a conspiracy.

been saying for weeks { its years actually } that mail in ballots are prone to fraud... correct.. incorrect
its plain and clear what he thought and thinks...not sure where the twist is ? who?
maybe had the Biden people also encouraged voters turn up in person this wouldnt be happening ..? Is this a serious suggestion ? You do realize that there is a pandemic going on.

253 - 214 ( 270 to win ) .

Depends who you listen to, Fox news ( of all people) called Arizona for Biden on Thursday.

It’s a done deal although it’ll take a while yet to be confirmed and if so Trump should accept it BUT 4 things strike me;
1. Grandpa Joe is just a puppet who’ll meet and greet the worlds leaders and be the face of USA but he won’t decide a thing; all the power is in the hands of the proper politicians.
2.Those one eyed anti Trump voters better be prepared for the economic devastation coming their way and guess what Covid will still be there
3. Grandpa Joe is just keeping the hot seat warm for his Veep before he is carted off to a nursing home and
4. The very fact that neatly half of the electorate voted for Trump is evidence that his project was not a delusion or a freak result but a popular reality (more’s the pity Covid got in his way like for Johnson here) so he could carry on the great economic and Middle Eastern peace steps he took

dead people voting in Arizona

Where have u seen concrete evidence of dead people voting in Arizona (or any other state) mate. Seen a few things about deceased people being on the voting roll in PA (which happens literally everywhere in every election including here in the UK) but seen nothing about actual votes cast by dead people.

Surely if the democratic party has done nothing wrong they should embrace the legal challenges as these will prove once and for all that Biden was elected in a free and fair election?

They are & even republican installed judges are throwing the challenges out.

Stopping the count of votes until representatives of both parties can be witness to the process, especially in an election as close as this is a perfectly reasonable request.

Why do they need to stop the count only where trump is winning?

The question has to be asked why in Philadelphia did it require a judge order to allow republicans onsite to monitor the vote counting from closer than the 100 yards which the Democrat count process team were allowing them?

The judge originally told them to figure it out and come back, both sides were too childish to do so.

And who is too blame there, those who were not allowing the rules that both parties agreed to or those who have challenged them on that and had to take a legal route to enforce the other side plays by those rules?

They agreed to & followed the rules until it was looking like they might lose if counting continued then they wanted to move closer, why?

There are so many aspects to these results that need answers, Trump has fought against the machine for 5 years, he's not going to let himself be cheated from a second term at the death.

Everyone but trump's family & very closest friends are distancing themselves from him, why?

If the democrats were smart and innocent the best thing they can do is let the legal challenges come. If they've won fairly they've nothing to hide and it will make Trump look like a poor loser.

They have & he does, even the real fox news reporters are saying so.

Its a very big if though...

Not really

Sorry I missed you post didnt realise you had responded (was hard to spot as was all in one quote)

With respect a lot of what you say furthers my point.

If things are done by the book in a close election the democrats have nothing to fear then there is nothing to see all good.

Equally, Trump has every right to challenge what he sees as discrepancies 10K out of state voters in Nevada, dead people voting in Arizona (i may have the states mixes up but you get the point) in an election this close each and every possible case of voter fraud should be investigated.

Just for clarity as well, as it is widely misinterpreted, Trump's call for stopping the count wasn't 'stop thats it, we're done' it was more like 'stop counting until there can be verification on both sides in line with US law.'

This shouldn't be controversial and to be clear it is my belief it needs to be applied on both sides in equal fairness. Again, if there was no wrong doing, then there is no harm in making sure all these procedures were adhered to.

To be honest the fact that the republicans held the senate and made ground in the house (as far as I am aware) means I'm less fearful of the damage Harris can do now - I honestly believe Biden will be gone before the end of 2021, probably via the 25th ammendment, but i still firmly believe the world is a more danagerous place with a Harris/Biden government than a Trump/Pence one.

I doubt the peace accords in the middle East will last now, but if they do after all the furore dies down, these we'll be the true legacy of a truly remarkable president.

Equally, the ideas of liberty and self-empowerment that Trump instilled in many, many Americans and the breaking of the strangle hold the Democrats had over black and Hispanic voters will have a long impact far beyond the next four years.

If as is looking increasingly likely Trump is a one term president, history will look at him far kinder than the modern hacks that pass for journalists ever did.

I agree in principle that he has every right to challenge these things if they have happened, but to just make shit up as he goes along without any evidence is just making him look like a sore loser.
Which part of the 25th amendment are you hoping for or expect, out of interest.

I've read that apparently, a secret watermark was put on the ballets and all these late ballots coming in for Biden are to be investigated if they have the watermark. I think this is what's holding up the outcome.

I'm looking forward to seeing what unfolds. I think there are going to be a lot of sanctions coming in the near future.

The ballots being counted at the moment aren't ballots that have come in 'late'. They are mail in ballots that were received in good time. They would have ALL been counted by now, but in some states (e.g.Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) republican legislators did not allow mail-in ballots to be counted early.

As a result Trump can now spew bollocks about these mysterious 'late' mail in ballots coming out of nowhere when it's his own party that have caused this mess. Trump himself has been saying for weeks that his supporters shouldn't vote via mail in because it's prone to fraud, so it's hardly a surprise that these mail in ballots are predominantly Biden too, but again Trump has twisted it into a conspiracy.

been saying for weeks { its years actually } that mail in ballots are prone to fraud... correct.. incorrect
its plain and clear what he thought and thinks...not sure where the twist is ? who?
maybe had the Biden people also encouraged voters turn up in person this wouldnt be happening ..? Is this a serious suggestion ? You do realize that there is a pandemic going on.

Just so you know if you want to put your responses in bold use the code (b) at the start of your comments and then close it off with (/b) but replace the round brackets i.e ( ) with square brackets i.e [ ]

(Sorry for clumsy way of explaining but if I type the code it would just make my sentence bold and not show you how to do it)

Its quite hard to follow who you are replying to and where the quote you're responding to ends and your text begins so putting them in bold might help.

It’s a done deal although it’ll take a while yet to be confirmed and if so Trump should accept it BUT 4 things strike me;
1. Grandpa Joe is just a puppet who’ll meet and greet the worlds leaders and be the face of USA but he won’t decide a thing; all the power is in the hands of the proper politicians.
2.Those one eyed anti Trump voters better be prepared for the economic devastation coming their way and guess what Covid will still be there
3. Grandpa Joe is just keeping the hot seat warm for his Veep before he is carted off to a nursing home and
4. The very fact that neatly half of the electorate voted for Trump is evidence that his project was not a delusion or a freak result but a popular reality (more’s the pity Covid got in his way like for Johnson here) so he could carry on the great economic and Middle Eastern peace steps he took

1. Again with the grandpa Joe insults, pathetic.
2. Anti trump voters? You mean democrat voters?
3. And yet again with the grandpa stuff. Do you realize they are both in their 70s and grandpas?
4. But more than half will have voted democrat this time AND last time, what's your point?

253 - 214 ( 270 to win ) .

Depends who you listen to, Fox news ( of all people) called Arizona for Biden on Thursday.

Are these not the latest results over where you are mate ? Theses are the scores on the doors over here on all stations

It’s a done deal although it’ll take a while yet to be confirmed and if so Trump should accept it BUT 4 things strike me;
1. Grandpa Joe is just a puppet who’ll meet and greet the worlds leaders and be the face of USA but he won’t decide a thing; all the power is in the hands of the proper politicians.
2.Those one eyed anti Trump voters better be prepared for the economic devastation coming their way and guess what Covid will still be there
3. Grandpa Joe is just keeping the hot seat warm for his Veep before he is carted off to a nursing home and
4. The very fact that neatly half of the electorate voted for Trump is evidence that his project was not a delusion or a freak result but a popular reality (more’s the pity Covid got in his way like for Johnson here) so he could carry on the great economic and Middle Eastern peace steps he took

By the time trumps second term would have been up he'd be older than 'Grandpa Joe' so although I'm sure you think you sound very clever it just comes across as quite contradictory.

253 - 214 ( 270 to win ) .

Depends who you listen to, Fox news ( of all people) called Arizona for Biden on Thursday.

Are these not the latest results over where you are mate ? Theses are the scores on the doors over here on all stations

Fox news had called Arizona for Biden yesterday & still have that now. 264 to 214 as I'm typing this but only Fox news and one other source that I can't find on my tv.

I've read that apparently, a secret watermark was put on the ballets and all these late ballots coming in for Biden are to be investigated if they have the watermark. I think this is what's holding up the outcome.

I'm looking forward to seeing what unfolds. I think there are going to be a lot of sanctions coming in the near future.

The ballots being counted at the moment aren't ballots that have come in 'late'. They are mail in ballots that were received in good time. They would have ALL been counted by now, but in some states (e.g.Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) republican legislators did not allow mail-in ballots to be counted early.

As a result Trump can now spew bollocks about these mysterious 'late' mail in ballots coming out of nowhere when it's his own party that have caused this mess. Trump himself has been saying for weeks that his supporters shouldn't vote via mail in because it's prone to fraud, so it's hardly a surprise that these mail in ballots are predominantly Biden too, but again Trump has twisted it into a conspiracy.

been saying for weeks { its years actually } that mail in ballots are prone to fraud... correct..
its plain and clear what he thought and thinks...not sure where the twist is ?
maybe had the Biden people also encouraged voters turn up in person this wouldnt be happening ..?

Why should Biden have encouraged people to use in person voting instead of mail in voting? Biden encouraged people to use a legal voting method to vote, which they did.

Strange that Trump as President had 4 years to tackle this alleged issue in the US electoral system but he chose not to, then suddenly when he realises he's about to lose an election he feigns outrage and acts as thought his is something that he cares about. If 99% of people had used mail in votes and trump had won he wouldn't give a f**k. Him and his family use mail in voting themselves ffs!

so your claiming this is new and he has not been concerned about postal vote fraud until now ?
and no of course he wouldnt care...anymore than you or i would care if we won 3 goals to 1 in a game the opponents scored from a penalty that shouldnt have been...
and although he is president is it really possible for him to change the system just on his say so ?

If Cardiff were winning 4 - o with 20 minutes to play and the other team decided to stop the game until tomorrow and the following day you found out you were 5 - 4 down with 20 minutes still to play as these mysterious goals had just appeared would you accept it?

Since we're going for extremely simplified football analogies now, here's an alternative one:

If Cardiff were winning 4-0 and my mate says "don't forget this is the second game of a two legged tie and the other team mailed, sorry, scored 5 goals a week ago so we're actually losing 5-4" would you wonder where these mysterious goals had just appeared from?

I’d go and see a Doctor.. you’ve obviously forgotten last weeks result had ever happened, despite clear instruction from said mate.

I agree in principle that he has every right to challenge these things if they have happened, but to just make shit up as he goes along without any evidence is just making him look like a sore loser.

Its the principle and the principle alone i care about so meet on that common ground.

Which part of the 25th amendment are you hoping for or expect, out of interest.

Not hoping just a hunch. I fear a Harris presidency far more than a Biden one, but in reality I fear they are in effect the same thing anyway.

When Biden deteriates further and it becomes increasingly hard to protect him from scrutiny I think they will leverage section 4 - can't remember the full text off the top of my head but basically written notification of the Presient being unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, amd the VP immediately assumes the powers and duties of the office in the capacity of 'acting president'

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I've read that apparently, a secret watermark was put on the ballets and all these late ballots coming in for Biden are to be investigated if they have the watermark. I think this is what's holding up the outcome.

I'm looking forward to seeing what unfolds. I think there are going to be a lot of sanctions coming in the near future.

The ballots being counted at the moment aren't ballots that have come in 'late'. They are mail in ballots that were received in good time. They would have ALL been counted by now, but in some states (e.g.Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) republican legislators did not allow mail-in ballots to be counted early.

As a result Trump can now spew bollocks about these mysterious 'late' mail in ballots coming out of nowhere when it's his own party that have caused this mess. Trump himself has been saying for weeks that his supporters shouldn't vote via mail in because it's prone to fraud, so it's hardly a surprise that these mail in ballots are predominantly Biden too, but again Trump has twisted it into a conspiracy.

been saying for weeks { its years actually } that mail in ballots are prone to fraud... correct.. incorrect
its plain and clear what he thought and thinks...not sure where the twist is ? who?
maybe had the Biden people also encouraged voters turn up in person this wouldnt be happening ..? Is this a serious suggestion ? You do realize that there is a pandemic going on.

Just so you know if you want to put your responses in bold use the code (b) at the start of your comments and then close it off with (/b) but replace the round brackets i.e ( ) with square brackets i.e [ ]

(Sorry for clumsy way of explaining but if I type the code it would just make my sentence bold and not show you how to do it)

Its quite hard to follow who you are replying to and where the quote you're responding to ends and your text begins so putting them in bold might help.

?????????????

If Cardiff were winning 4 - o with 20 minutes to play and the other team decided to stop the game until tomorrow and the following day you found out you were 5 - 4 down with 20 minutes still to play as these mysterious goals had just appeared would you accept it?

Since we're going for extremely simplified football analogies now, here's an alternative one:

If Cardiff were winning 4-0 and my mate says "don't forget this is the second game of a two legged tie and the other team mailed, sorry, scored 5 goals a week ago so we're actually losing 5-4" would you wonder where these mysterious goals had just appeared from?

I’d go and see a Doctor.. you’ve obviously forgotten last weeks result had ever happened, despite clear instruction from said mate.

maybe his mates name is Joe ?

253 - 214 ( 270 to win ) .

Depends who you listen to, Fox news ( of all people) called Arizona for Biden on Thursday.

Are these not the latest results over where you are mate ? Theses are the scores on the doors over here on all stations

Fox news had called Arizona for Biden yesterday & still have that now. 264 to 214 as I'm typing this but only Fox news and one other source that I can't find on my tv.

Cheers - we have the above figs over here in the UK .

I've read that apparently, a secret watermark was put on the ballets and all these late ballots coming in for Biden are to be investigated if they have the watermark. I think this is what's holding up the outcome.

I'm looking forward to seeing what unfolds. I think there are going to be a lot of sanctions coming in the near future.

The ballots being counted at the moment aren't ballots that have come in 'late'. They are mail in ballots that were received in good time. They would have ALL been counted by now, but in some states (e.g.Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) republican legislators did not allow mail-in ballots to be counted early.

As a result Trump can now spew bollocks about these mysterious 'late' mail in ballots coming out of nowhere when it's his own party that have caused this mess. Trump himself has been saying for weeks that his supporters shouldn't vote via mail in because it's prone to fraud, so it's hardly a surprise that these mail in ballots are predominantly Biden too, but again Trump has twisted it into a conspiracy.

been saying for weeks { its years actually } that mail in ballots are prone to fraud... correct..
its plain and clear what he thought and thinks...not sure where the twist is ?
maybe had the Biden people also encouraged voters turn up in person this wouldnt be happening ..?

Why should Biden have encouraged people to use in person voting instead of mail in voting? Biden encouraged people to use a legal voting method to vote, which they did.

Strange that Trump as President had 4 years to tackle this alleged issue in the US electoral system but he chose not to, then suddenly when he realises he's about to lose an election he feigns outrage and acts as thought his is something that he cares about. If 99% of people had used mail in votes and trump had won he wouldn't give a f**k. Him and his family use mail in voting themselves ffs!

so your claiming this is new and he has not been concerned about postal vote fraud until now ?
and no of course he wouldnt care...anymore than you or i would care if we won 3 goals to 1 in a game the opponents scored from a penalty that shouldnt have been...
and although he is president is it really possible for him to change the system just on his say so ?

f**k me i know this is a footie forum but can we please stop with the nonsensical football/election metaphors on this thread!!

If you/trump/anyone has any evidence of widespread fraud please make it be known, otherwise it just seems like a sense of failing to accept defeat.

I've read that apparently, a secret watermark was put on the ballets and all these late ballots coming in for Biden are to be investigated if they have the watermark. I think this is what's holding up the outcome.

I'm looking forward to seeing what unfolds. I think there are going to be a lot of sanctions coming in the near future.

The ballots being counted at the moment aren't ballots that have come in 'late'. They are mail in ballots that were received in good time. They would have ALL been counted by now, but in some states (e.g.Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) republican legislators did not allow mail-in ballots to be counted early.

As a result Trump can now spew bollocks about these mysterious 'late' mail in ballots coming out of nowhere when it's his own party that have caused this mess. Trump himself has been saying for weeks that his supporters shouldn't vote via mail in because it's prone to fraud, so it's hardly a surprise that these mail in ballots are predominantly Biden too, but again Trump has twisted it into a conspiracy.

been saying for weeks { its years actually } that mail in ballots are prone to fraud... correct.. incorrect
its plain and clear what he thought and thinks...not sure where the twist is ? who?
maybe had the Biden people also encouraged voters turn up in person this wouldnt be happening ..? Is this a serious suggestion ? You do realize that there is a pandemic going on.

Just so you know if you want to put your responses in bold use the code (b) at the start of your comments and then close it off with (/b) but replace the round brackets i.e ( ) with square brackets i.e [ ]

(Sorry for clumsy way of explaining but if I type the code it would just make my sentence bold and not show you how to do it)

Its quite hard to follow who you are replying to and where the quote you're responding to ends and your text begins so putting them in bold might help.

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For Welshman in Cali mate - there was a response to your post wasnt clear where one ended and the other began so just being your regular neighbourhood code geek offering some advice to help make the conversation flow better

I've read that apparently, a secret watermark was put on the ballets and all these late ballots coming in for Biden are to be investigated if they have the watermark. I think this is what's holding up the outcome.

I'm looking forward to seeing what unfolds. I think there are going to be a lot of sanctions coming in the near future.

The ballots being counted at the moment aren't ballots that have come in 'late'. They are mail in ballots that were received in good time. They would have ALL been counted by now, but in some states (e.g.Pennsylvania, Wisconsin) republican legislators did not allow mail-in ballots to be counted early.

As a result Trump can now spew bollocks about these mysterious 'late' mail in ballots coming out of nowhere when it's his own party that have caused this mess. Trump himself has been saying for weeks that his supporters shouldn't vote via mail in because it's prone to fraud, so it's hardly a surprise that these mail in ballots are predominantly Biden too, but again Trump has twisted it into a conspiracy.

been saying for weeks { its years actually } that mail in ballots are prone to fraud... correct.. incorrect
its plain and clear what he thought and thinks...not sure where the twist is ? who?
maybe had the Biden people also encouraged voters turn up in person this wouldnt be happening ..? Is this a serious suggestion ? You do realize that there is a pandemic going on.

Just so you know if you want to put your responses in bold use the code (b) at the start of your comments and then close it off with (/b) but replace the round brackets i.e ( ) with square brackets i.e [ ]

(Sorry for clumsy way of explaining but if I type the code it would just make my sentence bold and not show you how to do it)

Its quite hard to follow who you are replying to and where the quote you're responding to ends and your text begins so putting them in bold might help.

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He was aiming it at me not you. Not everything is about you Roathy.