Petition sennedd supermarkets be allowed to sell all goods

What on earth is wrong with the Welsh Media how did they ALL FAIL to pick up on Vague Guessing stating how we have such a low ICU bed level in Wales. In my opinion this is at the CORE of the need for this lockdown. Today the Health Minister stated that there are 172 people in critical care bed in Wales and that was 20 beds more than normally available.

That amounts to 4.75 beds per 100,000 population so how does that compare to other European Countries? Well Lithuania has a population of approx 2.8m and a GDP of approx £43b, Wales has a population of 3.2m with a GDP of over £70b.

Wales has 4.75 critical care beds per 100,000 while Lithuania has 15 critical care beds per 100,000. Is it really any surprise that the NHS in Wales is in danger of being overrun? After 20 years of Welsh Labour Government in Wales I believe it's a national disgrace that our NHS is so poorly resourced.

No one can doubt that we are ALL fighting this deadly virus but there is also no doubt that some countries are better prepared for the fight than Wales, in fact in Europe only 1 other country, Portugal, has fewer critical care beds per 100,000.
Today the Health Minister has stated that the are 20 extra beds being used for critical care in Wales so where have they been found? Like in the first lockdown it's probably theatres being taken over adding to the waiting list of people desperately needing operations and in many cases this people WILL die before their time, but for our Health Minister they appear as just collateral damage, the forgotten thousands.


And whilst this is happening our Media is rolling over and having their tummies tickled by this Welsh Labour Government.

What on earth is wrong with the Welsh Media how did they ALL FAIL to pick up on Vague Guessing stating how we have such a low ICU bed level in Wales. In my opinion this is at the CORE of the need for this lockdown. Today the Health Minister stated that there are 172 people in critical care bed in Wales and that was 20 beds more than normally available.

That amounts to 4.75 beds per 100,000 population so how does that compare to other European Countries? Well Lithuania has a population of approx 2.8m and a GDP of approx £43b, Wales has a population of 3.2m with a GDP of over £70b.

Wales has 4.75 critical care beds per 100,000 while Lithuania has 15 critical care beds per 100,000. Is it really any surprise that the NHS in Wales is in danger of being overrun? After 20 years of Welsh Labour Government in Wales I believe it's a national disgrace that our NHS is so poorly resourced.

No one can doubt that we are ALL fighting this deadly virus but there is also no doubt that some countries are better prepared for the fight than Wales, in fact in Europe only 1 other country, Portugal, has fewer critical care beds per 100,000.
Today the Health Minister has stated that the are 20 extra beds being used for critical care in Wales so where have they been found? Like in the first lockdown it's probably theatres being taken over adding to the waiting list of people desperately needing operations and in many cases this people WILL die before their time, but for our Health Minister they appear as just collateral damage, the forgotten thousands.


And whilst this is happening our Media is rolling over and having their tummies tickled by this Welsh Labour Government.

our ICU bed capacity has been running at insanely high levels for years... so it really didnt take much of an increase... although the way the shortage keeps being tacked onto covid updates youd swear these ICU beds are just laying there empty until covid filled them.... they do not lie but do not say the whole truth either..

What on earth is wrong with the Welsh Media how did they ALL FAIL to pick up on Vague Guessing stating how we have such a low ICU bed level in Wales. In my opinion this is at the CORE of the need for this lockdown. Today the Health Minister stated that there are 172 people in critical care bed in Wales and that was 20 beds more than normally available.

That amounts to 4.75 beds per 100,000 population so how does that compare to other European Countries? Well Lithuania has a population of approx 2.8m and a GDP of approx £43b, Wales has a population of 3.2m with a GDP of over £70b.

Wales has 4.75 critical care beds per 100,000 while Lithuania has 15 critical care beds per 100,000. Is it really any surprise that the NHS in Wales is in danger of being overrun? After 20 years of Welsh Labour Government in Wales I believe it's a national disgrace that our NHS is so poorly resourced.

No one can doubt that we are ALL fighting this deadly virus but there is also no doubt that some countries are better prepared for the fight than Wales, in fact in Europe only 1 other country, Portugal, has fewer critical care beds per 100,000.
Today the Health Minister has stated that the are 20 extra beds being used for critical care in Wales so where have they been found? Like in the first lockdown it's probably theatres being taken over adding to the waiting list of people desperately needing operations and in many cases this people WILL die before their time, but for our Health Minister they appear as just collateral damage, the forgotten thousands.


And whilst this is happening our Media is rolling over and having their tummies tickled by this Welsh Labour Government.

our ICU bed capacity has been running at insanely high levels for years... so it really didnt take much of an increase... although the way the shortage keeps being tacked onto covid updates youd swear these ICU beds are just laying there empty until covid filled them.... they do not lie but do not say the whole truth either..

Exactly so why scratch around taking theatres to take the covid demand when this Welsh Government was given £166m to build field hospitals in Wales. We are suppose to have between 5-6k additional beds so why have a full lockdown claiming it's to help stop the NHS being overrun.

This Welsh Government hate scrutiny of any kind and spend virtually ALL media time trying to control the narrative. Where are Laura Kneussberg and Beth Rigby when you need them,

I was in boots today. It looks as if they were selling everything.

Bought a bottle of wine in Sainsbury essential of course.

Apparently, B and M have told staff not to challenge customers.

The statement below shows what a complete buffoon he is....doesn't he know that supermarkets have taped up counters and blocked off aisles plus some depts are upstairs with no access
So how is anyone going to access item they require?

On Sunday, First Minister Mark Drakeford said supermarkets would be able to exercise "discretion" over the ban.

Drakeford said people may need to buy such products "for entirely unexpected reasons which they couldn't have foreseen" during the 17-day period.

He told ITV Wales News: "I won't need – I don't think – to buy clothing over this two weeks and I think many, many people in Wales will be in that position too.

"For me, it won't be essential. But I recognise that there will be some people who for entirely unexpected reasons which they couldn't have foreseen will need to buy items.

"In those circumstances where those welfare reasons are at stake, we will make sure that our supermarkets understand they have the discretion to apply the rules differently."

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Do people really think drakeford is worse than boris
If people would obey the rules this first time around we would' nt need a 2nd lockdown look at manchester the reason they have had testrictions for so long and it has' nt improved is because they are just ignoring the rules
When the 1st lockdown came in it worked because it was a new thing and people where crapping themselves
Now unfortunatly the attidude is i am not bothered send all these people into a covid ward.

i think people are bothered mate , but they are also slowly beginning to realise a few things like that this is not going away anytime soon...its wrecking the economy...and most importantly we can not continue to prioritise our health resources for something that will kill 7% of us , over the other things that will kill 93% ..Boris ? might be a lot of things but a power crazy tinpot dictator whose main objective is not us the people but beating your neighbours no matter what the cost..{ cost in avoidable deaths as well as the economy }

7% where did you get that from Chief. 7% is massively high and that would rank as the worst virus ever. As a world population the amount it has killed can hardly be measured it’s so small. Even if you want to calculate those that have had this virus and died it so small it’s crazy. To put into perspective you are more likely to be struck by lightning 3 times in a row than die solely of Covid19.
Just remember that when anyone is happy to queue outside B&Q in the rain

Do people really think drakeford is worse than boris
If people would obey the rules this first time around we would' nt need a 2nd lockdown look at manchester the reason they have had testrictions for so long and it has' nt improved is because they are just ignoring the rules
When the 1st lockdown came in it worked because it was a new thing and people where crapping themselves
Now unfortunatly the attidude is i am not bothered send all these people into a covid ward.

i think people are bothered mate , but they are also slowly beginning to realise a few things like that this is not going away anytime soon...its wrecking the economy...and most importantly we can not continue to prioritise our health resources for something that will kill 7% of us , over the other things that will kill 93% ..Boris ? might be a lot of things but a power crazy tinpot dictator whose main objective is not us the people but beating your neighbours no matter what the cost..{ cost in avoidable deaths as well as the economy }

7% where did you get that from Chief. 7% is massively high and that would rank as the worst virus ever. As a world population the amount it has killed can hardly be measured it’s so small. Even if you want to calculate those that have had this virus and died it so small it’s crazy. To put into perspective you are more likely to be struck by lightning 3 times in a row than die solely of Covid19.
Just remember that when anyone is happy to queue outside B&Q in the rain

It must be right as he only states facts apparently and of he puts it on here it is a fact

Total Mess -- Blind Leading The Blind - This Country

Total Mess -- Blind Leading The Blind - This Country

The lockdown maybe needed but the logic and rationale for doing it are so flawed it's no wonder people are questioning drakefords decision making..... and when you hear on the tv & radio people backing drakeford they universally are the ones who are so scared they dont go out and dont see the effects on society in general? Had one said she hasn't been out since march!!

Non-essential items include electrical goods, telephones, clothes, toys and games, and garden products.

Licensing lawyer Gerald Gouriet QC said the guidance was "clumsily written and confusing" as it states "shops that sell multiple products should not be allowed to sell products sold by a shop that has been required to close".

"The guidance is being promulgated as if it is enforceable in law... it isn't," he said.

However, a Welsh Government spokesperson said it was enforceable, citing health protection regulations that relate to coronavirus restrictions.

Total Mess -- Blind Leading The Blind - This Country

The lockdown maybe needed but the logic and rationale for doing it are so flawed it's no wonder people are questioning drakefords decision making..... and when you hear on the tv & radio people backing drakeford they universally are the ones who are so scared they dont go out and dont see the effects on society in general? Had one said she hasn't been out since march!!

Even if you agree that lockdowns work what is the point of locking down Wales ? and when that ends people from England will cross the border and we are back to square one.

Do people really think drakeford is worse than boris
If people would obey the rules this first time around we would' nt need a 2nd lockdown look at manchester the reason they have had testrictions for so long and it has' nt improved is because they are just ignoring the rules
When the 1st lockdown came in it worked because it was a new thing and people where crapping themselves
Now unfortunatly the attidude is i am not bothered send all these people into a covid ward.

i think people are bothered mate , but they are also slowly beginning to realise a few things like that this is not going away anytime soon...its wrecking the economy...and most importantly we can not continue to prioritise our health resources for something that will kill 7% of us , over the other things that will kill 93% ..Boris ? might be a lot of things but a power crazy tinpot dictator whose main objective is not us the people but beating your neighbours no matter what the cost..{ cost in avoidable deaths as well as the economy }

7% where did you get that from Chief. 7% is massively high and that would rank as the worst virus ever. As a world population the amount it has killed can hardly be measured it’s so small. Even if you want to calculate those that have had this virus and died it so small it’s crazy. To put into perspective you are more likely to be struck by lightning 3 times in a row than die solely of Covid19.
Just remember that when anyone is happy to queue outside B&Q in the rain

i didnr put that right...its 7% of those that will die this year....

What on earth is wrong with the Welsh Media how did they ALL FAIL to pick up on Vague Guessing stating how we have such a low ICU bed level in Wales. In my opinion this is at the CORE of the need for this lockdown. Today the Health Minister stated that there are 172 people in critical care bed in Wales and that was 20 beds more than normally available.

That amounts to 4.75 beds per 100,000 population so how does that compare to other European Countries? Well Lithuania has a population of approx 2.8m and a GDP of approx £43b, Wales has a population of 3.2m with a GDP of over £70b.

Wales has 4.75 critical care beds per 100,000 while Lithuania has 15 critical care beds per 100,000. Is it really any surprise that the NHS in Wales is in danger of being overrun? After 20 years of Welsh Labour Government in Wales I believe it's a national disgrace that our NHS is so poorly resourced.

No one can doubt that we are ALL fighting this deadly virus but there is also no doubt that some countries are better prepared for the fight than Wales, in fact in Europe only 1 other country, Portugal, has fewer critical care beds per 100,000.
Today the Health Minister has stated that the are 20 extra beds being used for critical care in Wales so where have they been found? Like in the first lockdown it's probably theatres being taken over adding to the waiting list of people desperately needing operations and in many cases this people WILL die before their time, but for our Health Minister they appear as just collateral damage, the forgotten thousands.


And whilst this is happening our Media is rolling over and having their tummies tickled by this Welsh Labour Government.

our ICU bed capacity has been running at insanely high levels for years... so it really didnt take much of an increase... although the way the shortage keeps being tacked onto covid updates youd swear these ICU beds are just laying there empty until covid filled them.... they do not lie but do not say the whole truth either..

Exactly so why scratch around taking theatres to take the covid demand when this Welsh Government was given £166m to build field hospitals in Wales. We are suppose to have between 5-6k additional beds so why have a full lockdown claiming it's to help stop the NHS being overrun.

This Welsh Government hate scrutiny of any kind and spend virtually ALL media time trying to control the narrative. Where are Laura Kneussberg and Beth Rigby when you need them,

the ratio of deaths between the 3 month national lockdown and the 3 months July 27th up to today is 11: 1.. shouldnt that mean we are in a better place yet being implied its worse ?

Two points.

First, it's curious why the issue of essential and non essential and what is and what isn't didn't raise its head earlier in the summer when "non essential" was not reopened.

Secondly, what is going to happen when Boris brings in the next UK lockdown. This is inevitably going to happen its just a question of when. Boris doesn't govern england, he governs the UK. Just wait and see how when our Wales Lockdown ends we move into a UK wide one. Was this why Drakeford so confidentally said the Wales Lockdown would end on November 9th anticipating a UK wide one would likely be next?

Total Mess -- Blind Leading The Blind - This Country

The lockdown maybe needed but the logic and rationale for doing it are so flawed it's no wonder people are questioning drakefords decision making..... and when you hear on the tv & radio people backing drakeford they universally are the ones who are so scared they dont go out and dont see the effects on society in general? Had one said she hasn't been out since march!!

Even if you agree that lockdowns work what is the point of locking down Wales ? and when that ends people from England will cross the border and we are back to square one.

That is why we are in this mess now . We allowed foreign Holidays and it spread rapidly.

Its not about banning England its about stopping foreign Holidays and travel otherwise this will go on forever

Total Mess -- Blind Leading The Blind - This Country

The lockdown maybe needed but the logic and rationale for doing it are so flawed it's no wonder people are questioning drakefords decision making..... and when you hear on the tv & radio people backing drakeford they universally are the ones who are so scared they dont go out and dont see the effects on society in general? Had one said she hasn't been out since march!!

Even if you agree that lockdowns work what is the point of locking down Wales ? and when that ends people from England will cross the border and we are back to square one.

That is why we are in this mess now . We allowed foreign Holidays and it spread rapidly.

Its not about banning England its about stopping foreign Holidays and travel otherwise this will go on forever

I half agree it's one small factor, the virus was still here anyway and it would have spread through internal travel throughout the UK, the biggest spreaders are, Universities and care homes, where you have lots of people mixing in close proximity, initially also in flats as well.

The expediential growth of this latest wave coincides with Students going to university, those first few weeks are the worst for mixing, and with the arrival in new Cities the local youngsters go out much more also, so in Cardiff, we will have had the virus imported in from all over the country and other parts of the World, the same in Manchester, Nottingham, Leicester etc.

The university community should die back a bit now, as a large population will have already had it, the problem is now though that it will have spread out into the local community.