Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:00 am
CCFCJosh75 wrote:skidemin wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.
That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.
https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/
I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.
Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.
I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.
The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.
At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.
How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI
I would like to hear your additional thoughts...
We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?
so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...
Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.
Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:41 am
CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:skidemin wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.
That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.
https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/
I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.
Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.
I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.
The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.
At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.
How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI
I would like to hear your additional thoughts...
We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?
so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...
Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.
I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional
And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:
https://id2020.org/
In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.
Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?
Wed Sep 02, 2020 12:54 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:skidemin wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.
That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.
https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/
I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.
Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.
I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.
The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.
At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.
How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI
I would like to hear your additional thoughts...
We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?
so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...
Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.
I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional
And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:
https://id2020.org/
In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.
Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?
All three of dementia, alzheimers and diabetes kill people ever year. 61,000 died of dementia last year (11.6% of all deaths), Alzheimers is the 6th leading cause of death in America and Diabetes has caused more than 4 million deaths.
You can read about the Gates' Polio cure and its effects on Indians here - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... -01755.pdf.
And Africa here -
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02501-3
I do have a phone and a computer. The difference is, I choose to carry them at home. I could not choose to leave my mandated chip at home. Thats a loss in freedom for everybody. And why would they want to track you everywhere you go? To collect your data and sell it, as Facebook, Cambridge Analytica etc. have already been caught doing. Your data is worth billions.
Wed Sep 02, 2020 2:57 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:skidemin wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.
That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.
https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/
I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.
Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.
I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.
The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.
At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.
How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI
I would like to hear your additional thoughts...
We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?
so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...
Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.
I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional
And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:
https://id2020.org/
In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.
Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?
All three of dementia, alzheimers and diabetes kill people ever year. 61,000 died of dementia last year (11.6% of all deaths), Alzheimers is the 6th leading cause of death in America and Diabetes has caused more than 4 million deaths.
You can read about the Gates' Polio cure and its effects on Indians here - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... -01755.pdf.
And Africa here -
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02501-3
I do have a phone and a computer. The difference is, I choose to carry them at home. I could not choose to leave my mandated chip at home. Thats a loss in freedom for everybody. And why would they want to track you everywhere you go? To collect your data and sell it, as Facebook, Cambridge Analytica etc. have already been caught doing. Your data is worth billions.
I'll just deal with dementia to keep the reply quick and more focused. According to public health England, nearly every death which mentioned dementia (especially in men) also mentioned either a circulatory disease, respiratory disease, or cancer.
If you looked at how many people died directly from dementia with nothing else (like what you've posted with corona) then the numbers would be very small. However, dementia has such an impact on the body that it should be recorded as a cause of death, similarly to corona virus.
On a side note, are you anti all vaccines or just one made by the Bill Gates foundation?
Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:57 pm
JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:
I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional
And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:
https://id2020.org/
In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.
Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?
All three of dementia, alzheimers and diabetes kill people ever year. 61,000 died of dementia last year (11.6% of all deaths), Alzheimers is the 6th leading cause of death in America and Diabetes has caused more than 4 million deaths.
You can read about the Gates' Polio cure and its effects on Indians here - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... -01755.pdf.
And Africa here -
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02501-3
I do have a phone and a computer. The difference is, I choose to carry them at home. I could not choose to leave my mandated chip at home. Thats a loss in freedom for everybody. And why would they want to track you everywhere you go? To collect your data and sell it, as Facebook, Cambridge Analytica etc. have already been caught doing. Your data is worth billions.
I'll just deal with dementia to keep the reply quick and more focused. According to public health England, nearly every death which mentioned dementia (especially in men) also mentioned either a circulatory disease, respiratory disease, or cancer.
If you looked at how many people died directly from dementia with nothing else (like what you've posted with corona) then the numbers would be very small. However, dementia has such an impact on the body that it should be recorded as a cause of death, similarly to corona virus.
On a side note, are you anti all vaccines or just one made by the Bill Gates foundation?
Yes - over 90% of dementia deaths have related comorbidities, and the vast majority elderly too. The difference is - we don't lockdown society for this. Leading to an economic crash and a new endemic in the mental health sector, as well as those with cancer and other health issues. The ripple on effects of the lockdown are vast and impossible to ignore, i could go on..
I am not an 'anti vaxxer'.
I'm just aware of the negative consequences of rushed, forced and mandatory vaccinations, as shown in the research in the above links.
I'm certainly, however, skeptical when a man who claims to care about public health so much that he will save the world, invests in companies like KFC, Mcdonalds, Coca Cola and some of the worlds biggest polluters.
In addition to this, he has a history of vaccinations that having awful consequences for those who are forced to take them, particularly in the third world.
He talks openly about the need for de-population, and how this can be achieved via vaccinations.
He has no medical degree, wasn't elected and is trying to dictate how I live my life, through advocating for lockdowns and forced vaccinations, via his mega corporations.
For the above reasons, I do not trust Bill Gates and do not believe anybody should be forced to be vaccinated against their will.
Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:07 pm
Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:08 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:skidemin wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.
That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.
https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/
I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.
Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.
I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.
The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.
At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.
How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI
I would like to hear your additional thoughts...
We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?
so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...
Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.
I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional
And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:
https://id2020.org/
In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.
Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?
Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:21 pm
bluesince62 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:skidemin wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.
That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.
https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/
I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.
Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.
I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.
The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.
At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.
How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI
I would like to hear your additional thoughts...
We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?
so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...
Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.
I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional
And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:
https://id2020.org/
In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.
Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?
Sorry mate,but your claim dementia doesn't kill is utter bollocks, my dad died from it 3 years ago!!!or are you saying that other things killed him?? If he didn't have dementia he wouldn't have had the multitude of problems that come with it!! Dementia is listed as the number 1 killer in the uk,but you say it doesn't kill you.so those published figures are wrong then?
And lastly,there is no money in a cure!!![]()
Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:43 pm
CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:skidemin wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.
That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.
https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/
I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.
Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.
I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.
The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.
At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.
How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI
I would like to hear your additional thoughts...
We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?
so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...
Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.
I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional
And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:
https://id2020.org/
In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.
Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?
All three of dementia, alzheimers and diabetes kill people ever year. 61,000 died of dementia last year (11.6% of all deaths), Alzheimers is the 6th leading cause of death in America and Diabetes has caused more than 4 million deaths.
You can read about the Gates' Polio cure and its effects on Indians here - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... -01755.pdf.
And Africa here -
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02501-3
I do have a phone and a computer. The difference is, I choose to carry them at home. I could not choose to leave my mandated chip at home. Thats a loss in freedom for everybody. And why would they want to track you everywhere you go? To collect your data and sell it, as Facebook, Cambridge Analytica etc. have already been caught doing. Your data is worth billions.
I'll just deal with dementia to keep the reply quick and more focused. According to public health England, nearly every death which mentioned dementia (especially in men) also mentioned either a circulatory disease, respiratory disease, or cancer.
If you looked at how many people died directly from dementia with nothing else (like what you've posted with corona) then the numbers would be very small. However, dementia has such an impact on the body that it should be recorded as a cause of death, similarly to corona virus.
On a side note, are you anti all vaccines or just one made by the Bill Gates foundation?
Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:32 am
bluesince62 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:skidemin wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:CCFCJosh75 wrote:JasonFowler1991 wrote:The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.
That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.
https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/
I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.
Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.
I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.
The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.
At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.
How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI
I would like to hear your additional thoughts...
We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?
so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...
Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.
I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional
And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:
https://id2020.org/
In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.
Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?
Sorry mate,but your claim dementia doesn't kill is utter bollocks, my dad died from it 3 years ago!!!or are you saying that other things killed him?? If he didn't have dementia he wouldn't have had the multitude of problems that come with it!! Dementia is listed as the number 1 killer in the uk,but you say it doesn't kill you.so those published figures are wrong then?
And lastly,there is no money in a cure!!![]()