Anyone care to enlighten me?

The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.

That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.

https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/

I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.

Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.

I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.

The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.

At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.

How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI

I would like to hear your additional thoughts...

We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?

so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...

Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.

i havent missed the point at all . the point being your deliberately trying to be silly.. . ive had relatives terminal with next to zero quality of life knowing that the first bit of other ill health even a cold would probably be the end... they didnt die of colds mate....exactly like the majority are not dying of covid .

The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.

That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.

https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/

I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.

Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.

I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.

The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.

At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.

How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI

I would like to hear your additional thoughts...

We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?

so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...

Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.

I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional

And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:

https://id2020.org/

In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.

Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?

All three of dementia, alzheimers and diabetes kill people ever year. 61,000 died of dementia last year (11.6% of all deaths), Alzheimers is the 6th leading cause of death in America and Diabetes has caused more than 4 million deaths.

You can read about the Gates' Polio cure and its effects on Indians here - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... -01755.pdf.

And Africa here -
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02501-3

I do have a phone and a computer. The difference is, I choose to carry them at home. I could not choose to leave my mandated chip at home. Thats a loss in freedom for everybody. And why would they want to track you everywhere you go? To collect your data and sell it, as Facebook, Cambridge Analytica etc. have already been caught doing. Your data is worth billions.

The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.

That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.

https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/

I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.

Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.

I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.

The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.

At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.

How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI

I would like to hear your additional thoughts...

We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?

so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...

Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.

I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional

And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:

https://id2020.org/

In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.

Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?

All three of dementia, alzheimers and diabetes kill people ever year. 61,000 died of dementia last year (11.6% of all deaths), Alzheimers is the 6th leading cause of death in America and Diabetes has caused more than 4 million deaths.

You can read about the Gates' Polio cure and its effects on Indians here - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... -01755.pdf.

And Africa here -
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02501-3

I do have a phone and a computer. The difference is, I choose to carry them at home. I could not choose to leave my mandated chip at home. Thats a loss in freedom for everybody. And why would they want to track you everywhere you go? To collect your data and sell it, as Facebook, Cambridge Analytica etc. have already been caught doing. Your data is worth billions.

I'll just deal with dementia to keep the reply quick and more focused. According to public health England, nearly every death which mentioned dementia (especially in men) also mentioned either a circulatory disease, respiratory disease, or cancer.

If you looked at how many people died directly from dementia with nothing else (like what you've posted with corona) then the numbers would be very small. However, dementia has such an impact on the body that it should be recorded as a cause of death, similarly to corona virus.

On a side note, are you anti all vaccines or just one made by the Bill Gates foundation?

The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.

That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.

https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/

I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.

Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.

I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.

The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.

At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.

How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI

I would like to hear your additional thoughts...

We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?

so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...

Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.

I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional

And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:

https://id2020.org/

In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.

Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?

All three of dementia, alzheimers and diabetes kill people ever year. 61,000 died of dementia last year (11.6% of all deaths), Alzheimers is the 6th leading cause of death in America and Diabetes has caused more than 4 million deaths.

You can read about the Gates' Polio cure and its effects on Indians here - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... -01755.pdf.

And Africa here -
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02501-3

I do have a phone and a computer. The difference is, I choose to carry them at home. I could not choose to leave my mandated chip at home. Thats a loss in freedom for everybody. And why would they want to track you everywhere you go? To collect your data and sell it, as Facebook, Cambridge Analytica etc. have already been caught doing. Your data is worth billions.

I'll just deal with dementia to keep the reply quick and more focused. According to public health England, nearly every death which mentioned dementia (especially in men) also mentioned either a circulatory disease, respiratory disease, or cancer.

If you looked at how many people died directly from dementia with nothing else (like what you've posted with corona) then the numbers would be very small. However, dementia has such an impact on the body that it should be recorded as a cause of death, similarly to corona virus.

On a side note, are you anti all vaccines or just one made by the Bill Gates foundation?

Yes - over 90% of dementia deaths have related comorbidities, and the vast majority elderly too. The difference is - we don't lockdown society for this. Leading to an economic crash and a new endemic in the mental health sector, as well as those with cancer and other health issues. The ripple on effects of the lockdown are vast and impossible to ignore, i could go on..

I am not an 'anti vaxxer'.
I'm just aware of the negative consequences of rushed, forced and mandatory vaccinations, as shown in the research in the above links.
I'm certainly, however, skeptical when a man who claims to care about public health so much that he will save the world, invests in companies like KFC, Mcdonalds, Coca Cola and some of the worlds biggest polluters.
In addition to this, he has a history of vaccinations that having awful consequences for those who are forced to take them, particularly in the third world.
He talks openly about the need for de-population, and how this can be achieved via vaccinations.

He has no medical degree, wasn't elected and is trying to dictate how I live my life, through advocating for lockdowns and forced vaccinations, via his mega corporations.
For the above reasons, I do not trust Bill Gates and do not believe anybody should be forced to be vaccinated against their will.

I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional

And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:

https://id2020.org/

In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.

Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?

All three of dementia, alzheimers and diabetes kill people ever year. 61,000 died of dementia last year (11.6% of all deaths), Alzheimers is the 6th leading cause of death in America and Diabetes has caused more than 4 million deaths.

You can read about the Gates' Polio cure and its effects on Indians here - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... -01755.pdf.

And Africa here -
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02501-3

I do have a phone and a computer. The difference is, I choose to carry them at home. I could not choose to leave my mandated chip at home. Thats a loss in freedom for everybody. And why would they want to track you everywhere you go? To collect your data and sell it, as Facebook, Cambridge Analytica etc. have already been caught doing. Your data is worth billions.

I'll just deal with dementia to keep the reply quick and more focused. According to public health England, nearly every death which mentioned dementia (especially in men) also mentioned either a circulatory disease, respiratory disease, or cancer.

If you looked at how many people died directly from dementia with nothing else (like what you've posted with corona) then the numbers would be very small. However, dementia has such an impact on the body that it should be recorded as a cause of death, similarly to corona virus.

On a side note, are you anti all vaccines or just one made by the Bill Gates foundation?

Yes - over 90% of dementia deaths have related comorbidities, and the vast majority elderly too. The difference is - we don't lockdown society for this. Leading to an economic crash and a new endemic in the mental health sector, as well as those with cancer and other health issues. The ripple on effects of the lockdown are vast and impossible to ignore, i could go on..

I am not an 'anti vaxxer'.
I'm just aware of the negative consequences of rushed, forced and mandatory vaccinations, as shown in the research in the above links.
I'm certainly, however, skeptical when a man who claims to care about public health so much that he will save the world, invests in companies like KFC, Mcdonalds, Coca Cola and some of the worlds biggest polluters.
In addition to this, he has a history of vaccinations that having awful consequences for those who are forced to take them, particularly in the third world.
He talks openly about the need for de-population, and how this can be achieved via vaccinations.

He has no medical degree, wasn't elected and is trying to dictate how I live my life, through advocating for lockdowns and forced vaccinations, via his mega corporations.
For the above reasons, I do not trust Bill Gates and do not believe anybody should be forced to be vaccinated against their will.

We don't lock down for dementia because it's not contagious.

I don't think Bill is sat in his back garden trying to make a vaccine. I think it's safe to assume that it's a team of scientists with vast knowledge of vaccines and diseases doing it so lack of knowledge shouldn't be an issue (although I suspect he knows far more about it than this entire board combined).
Depopulation with vaccines is to stop child mortality. NOT depopulation by killing you with vaccines.

I'm not sure if you've actually read that polio vaccine document you sent because it concludes that it works...
And your one about Africa which I assumed you linked because of the words 'vaccine derived' shows that there's been 400 cases in Africa this past 12 months. Compared to historical data, In 1985 1000 children a day worldwide were paralysed by polio, and in 1996 75,000 African children were paralysed by it. I'd say, on balance, its been a success.

The world is now controlled by a left woke social media, we have had extinction rebellion, BLM, Covid, sadly our government is over reacting , I live in hope that an enquiry will be forthcoming with the truths set about our alleged Covid deaths and how other countries reported it or didn't .

The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.

That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.

https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/

I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.

Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.

I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.

The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.

At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.

How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI

I would like to hear your additional thoughts...

We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?

so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...

Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.

I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional

And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:

https://id2020.org/

In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.

Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?

Sorry mate,but your claim dementia doesn't kill is utter bollocks, my dad died from it 3 years ago!!!or are you saying that other things killed him?? If he didn't have dementia he wouldn't have had the multitude of problems that come with it!! Dementia is listed as the number 1 killer in the uk,but you say it doesn't kill you. so those published figures are wrong then?
And lastly,there is no money in a cure!!

The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.

That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.

https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/

I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.

Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.

I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.

The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.

At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.

How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI

I would like to hear your additional thoughts...

We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?

so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...

Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.

I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional

And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:

https://id2020.org/

In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.

Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?

Sorry mate,but your claim dementia doesn't kill is utter bollocks, my dad died from it 3 years ago!!!or are you saying that other things killed him?? If he didn't have dementia he wouldn't have had the multitude of problems that come with it!! Dementia is listed as the number 1 killer in the uk,but you say it doesn't kill you. so those published figures are wrong then?
And lastly,there is no money in a cure!!

its just Josh mate... he tends to not have any deep seated thoughts on anything...just googles a few things to make some sort of response.... often way off the mark or even irrelevant to his own views... the whole shooting /machinegun thing him and his mate have come up with has to be read to be believed...
people moan about young roath but at least roath tries... and comes across as if he believes what he is saying..

The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.

That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.

https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/

I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.

Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.

I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.

The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.

At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.

How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI

I would like to hear your additional thoughts...

We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?

so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...

Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.

I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional

And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:

https://id2020.org/

In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.

Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?

All three of dementia, alzheimers and diabetes kill people ever year. 61,000 died of dementia last year (11.6% of all deaths), Alzheimers is the 6th leading cause of death in America and Diabetes has caused more than 4 million deaths.

You can read about the Gates' Polio cure and its effects on Indians here - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... -01755.pdf.

And Africa here -
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02501-3

I do have a phone and a computer. The difference is, I choose to carry them at home. I could not choose to leave my mandated chip at home. Thats a loss in freedom for everybody. And why would they want to track you everywhere you go? To collect your data and sell it, as Facebook, Cambridge Analytica etc. have already been caught doing. Your data is worth billions.

I'll just deal with dementia to keep the reply quick and more focused. According to public health England, nearly every death which mentioned dementia (especially in men) also mentioned either a circulatory disease, respiratory disease, or cancer.

If you looked at how many people died directly from dementia with nothing else (like what you've posted with corona) then the numbers would be very small. However, dementia has such an impact on the body that it should be recorded as a cause of death, similarly to corona virus.

On a side note, are you anti all vaccines or just one made by the Bill Gates foundation?

honestly, it sounds as if you have zero idea of these things mate... your making dementia sound as if its some insignificant thing compared to covid ffs... lets try you do not need a swab test to find out you have dementia...that might turn out to be positive but you feel 100%... genuinely hope none of your family suffer any of these and you end up looking after them...

The CDC in America has just provided a very quiet update too.
Only 6% of the total Covid deaths are solely down to Covid.
The other 94% of people had 2-3 other illnesses.

That means the deaths caused purely by Covid is around 9,000.

https://principia-scientific.com/finall ... m-covid19/

I'd also suggest not relying on 'fact checker' websites. They are literally just journalists and are funded by people with conflicts of interest, e.g Bill and Melinda Gates.

Without going into the whole 'that's how a lot of viruses work and if you want to be pedantic then guns or aids don't kill anyone either'.

I want to focus on the reliability bit. Do you know who is the founder and ceo of the site you linked?
John o'sullivan. Do you know what he's lied about? He's lied about being an attorney, being a published writer, and having a law degree. When registering as an associate he claimed to be with principia scientific but gave the address of a construction company and false phone and fax numbers.( This is all from a court of law BTW)
You'll be pleased to know he was acquitted of 16 year old girl whilst he was a teacher, although he then took the unusual step of writing an erotic novel about..... You guessed it, a teachers obsession with a schoolgirl.

The sites basically just vaccines and climate change denial and has decided to use a scientific method that absolutely no one thinks is good. So no wonder they tell you not to look up their claims.

At least they're not funded by Bill Gates I suppose.

How about we forget about that website and John O'Sullivan, and focus on the data - its on the CDC's website. Scroll down to comorbidities - you will find it there.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... wSRP2OmqsI

I would like to hear your additional thoughts...

We all know that it rarely directly kills you, a lot of viruses do that. A lot of corona virus deaths are from other things which wouldn't have killed you or happened without it.
Let's say you get shot and die, do you think the cause of death is being shot?
Technically you die from blood loss or your lungs rupturing or whatever and not the actual bullet, however as the bullet causes it to happen people say that shooting is the cause of death.
Similarly aids doesn't kill you it just weakens your systems and makes you vulnerable to something else which kills you but as most of the damage done is from aids it gets counted as that.
Has that cleared it up for you?

so people killed in M and M s machine gun masacre were not killed by a machine gun. .just the holes the bullets made... off your rocker...

Amazing how you've managed to completely miss the point. In the original post it says how corona virus itself hasn't killed many and other problems are what kills you. I was trying to show that you shouldn't just look at the physical cause of death and you should consider all the factors to determine what caused it.
The example I used was being shot. If you only used the thing which actually definitively killed you then bullets wouldn't be the cause of any death as the bullet will lead to something happening in your body that kills you (say, blood loss or heart failure).
Normal people would see that the bullet is the cause of all this and list it as the cause of death, however, if you were to use the 'directly' killed ranking it wouldn't.

I think you've got yourself and your analogy a little confused.
These are pre-existing conditions. Meaning they already had these conditions before catching Covid.
So the analogy would be more like: you get shot and left in a room to die with other people who've also been shot, who also happen to be infected with Covid. Whilst dying, everyone within that room also becomes infected. However, the gunshot is what killed them. This is almost literally, what has happened in nursing homes - where a majority of deaths have happened; as you can see here:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation ... rovisional

And Bill Gates is developing a chip (not a vaccine) that will be implanted beneath your skin and store data, and in theory, able to track you too. So although slightly inaccurate, that woman isn't entirely incorrect either. See here:

https://id2020.org/

In March and June the biggest pre existing health condition in deaths involving corona were dementia and alzehemiers. Diabetes is also high on the list. Neither of them kill you.

Why would Bill Gates be trying to sneak a tracking device into you instead of a cure.
A) Thanks to his foundation africa now doesn't have wild polio so evidently he is working on vaccines.
B) Do you have a phone? Or a computer at least?

Sorry mate,but your claim dementia doesn't kill is utter bollocks, my dad died from it 3 years ago!!!or are you saying that other things killed him?? If he didn't have dementia he wouldn't have had the multitude of problems that come with it!! Dementia is listed as the number 1 killer in the uk,but you say it doesn't kill you. so those published figures are wrong then?
And lastly,there is no money in a cure!!

'If he didn't have dementia he wouldn't have had the multitude of problems that come with it!!'. That is literally my point.

I'll try one last time to make people understand. The original post which caused all this stated that 6% of corona virus deaths were corona only and 94% had something else listed as well. I have seen people take that information as 'only 6% of deaths listed as corona are actually from corona virus and the rest aren't so it's a big hoax '. I am trying to stop people on here from using that statistic incorrectly.

I used dementia as an example and as you said, the majority of the time dementia victims get a multitude of other problems. If you looked at deaths solely by dementia with no other causes listed then the number would be a fraction of total recorded dementia deaths, similarly to this 6% corona figure, you shouldn't look at that figure and think that as its much smaller that dementia is an insignificant thing.
Dementia should be recorded as a cause of death. The point is that there are times when there are multiple forces that sadly kill someone, if you were to look at the sole reason of why/ how that person died then many huge influences on the death (e.g. Dementia) would be severely under reported and less well known but not less prominent.