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Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:09 am

Bobby banks wrote:Hello all, hello Annis, still as passionate as ever I see. I used to post here a few years ago but someone nicked my name (jama).

Nope, can't and didn't happen, fella! ;)

Same person has held the account since Friday Mar 02, 2012 at 12:01 pm and has never been banned or removed

Last post was on Monday Jan 06, 2014 at 4:03 pm but the same IP has been used for other names in the period since

Can't see any obvious issues other than a slight change of name, so maybe you simply forgot your password (easily remedied)?

Stick to the facts rather than telling others your account was 'nicked' because it simply isn't true! :roll:

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:11 am

Sven wrote:
Jock wrote:
Sven wrote:
Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them

Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them

Hmmm, methinks you need to settle down and pick up a decent history book ;)

Churchill was the orchestrator of the war effort and his achievements in galvanising this nation to withstand the threat of the enemy (not withstanding Hitler's odd but thankful decision not to press home the advantage when he had it) and for that alone he will forever hold a place of gratitude in the nation's heart

However, closer examination in respect of some of his other actions/decisions might make you revise your assertion that there is no reason to criticise the man; and that is no more relevant than when (as Home Secretary) he sent in the troops to quell the impoverished miners during the so-called Tonyoandy Riots

Although the extent of Churchill's involvement is often disputed, as then Home Secretary the decision fell on him

However, I do agree that those out 'protesting' today clearly cannot think beyond their own heads :roll:

I thought the Lord Lieutenant of Glamorgan called the troops in and Churchill pulled them out?
Irrespective this Isn’t about BLM many of the groups in attend wantBoris out and Brexit reversed, same in the States this is about getting Trump out and Creepy Joe the sex case in.

That's where the confusion arises. Churchill initially rejected the requests as being OTT for troops, as at that point there had mainly been some hand to hand fighting, vandalism of one of the pump houses and some windows smashed by around 70 of the near thousand workers at Penygraig Pit

However, he sent in what are now the Met Police with a mounted section that included the option to deploy the military "if required" and this led to the cavalry being used, although that particular unit weren't specifically authorised by the Home Office

The confusion surrounding Churchill is whether he signed the agreement (disputed by some) or was it someone below him?

Either way, Churchill was the man in charge and knew the situation

With regard to the march in London, I don't know what motivated these people to gather in a mass huddle and act like Grade 1 backsides during a pandemic, but I do know (from experience in my younger days) that many wouldn't really have a Scooby Doo of why they were there in reality and used it as an excuse to 'kick back' after the frustrations of the apparent lockdown



With regard to your last paragraph how would you know the minds of the many people were there? There were literally thousands in cities across England. Very high minded and presumptuous of you. The lockdown up to now has been on the whole been well observed by the British people, until Cummings selfish actions so the evidence dosnt really support your sweeping statement.

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:35 am

Bobby banks wrote:
Sven wrote:
Jock wrote:
Sven wrote:
Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them

Citysince72 wrote:Annis the left have no respect for Churchill and what he achieved. It's an excuse for gang mentality, most of the idiots are middle class white clowns who would fall over if you blew at them

Hmmm, methinks you need to settle down and pick up a decent history book ;)

Churchill was the orchestrator of the war effort and his achievements in galvanising this nation to withstand the threat of the enemy (not withstanding Hitler's odd but thankful decision not to press home the advantage when he had it) and for that alone he will forever hold a place of gratitude in the nation's heart

However, closer examination in respect of some of his other actions/decisions might make you revise your assertion that there is no reason to criticise the man; and that is no more relevant than when (as Home Secretary) he sent in the troops to quell the impoverished miners during the so-called Tonyoandy Riots

Although the extent of Churchill's involvement is often disputed, as then Home Secretary the decision fell on him

However, I do agree that those out 'protesting' today clearly cannot think beyond their own heads :roll:

I thought the Lord Lieutenant of Glamorgan called the troops in and Churchill pulled them out?
Irrespective this Isn’t about BLM many of the groups in attend wantBoris out and Brexit reversed, same in the States this is about getting Trump out and Creepy Joe the sex case in.

That's where the confusion arises. Churchill initially rejected the requests as being OTT for troops, as at that point there had mainly been some hand to hand fighting, vandalism of one of the pump houses and some windows smashed by around 70 of the near thousand workers at Penygraig Pit

However, he sent in what are now the Met Police with a mounted section that included the option to deploy the military "if required" and this led to the cavalry being used, although that particular unit weren't specifically authorised by the Home Office

The confusion surrounding Churchill is whether he signed the agreement (disputed by some) or was it someone below him?

Either way, Churchill was the man in charge and knew the situation

With regard to the march in London, I don't know what motivated these people to gather in a mass huddle and act like Grade 1 backsides during a pandemic, but I do know (from experience in my younger days) that many wouldn't really have a Scooby Doo of why they were there in reality and used it as an excuse to 'kick back' after the frustrations of the apparent lockdown



With regard to your last paragraph how would you know the minds of the many people were there? There were literally thousands in cities across England. Very high minded and presumptuous of you. The lockdown up to now has been on the whole been well observed by the British people, until Cummings selfish actions so the evidence dosnt really support your sweeping statement.

It certainly does and it wasn't a sweeping statement; you'll note (or otherwise) my comment "from experience in my younger days" where I can 100% guarantee you that not everyone on every march was 'au fait' with the politics/realities of what they were attending and that hasn't changed much in the interim. Some just want to be 'there' (wherever that is at any given point in time)

That's not to say 'all' though; hence the word "many"

Meanwhile, back to my first paragraph; your lack of response indicates I was correct (but of course, as a Moderator rather than a poster, I already knew that) ;) 8-)

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:09 pm

Eh I think you are wrong. Jama is me, the dates match. When I said my name was nicked it was more in jest as I tried to sign up under the same name loads of times but couldnt get on so I re registered under a different name. You are right though I never got banned I think it was more the fihlghting over the rebrand plus other stuff that made me give it a rest. Sorry if I didnt make myself clear, but hes definitely me. A tripe supper for Steve Borley? Was one of my threads, look it up.

Edit. Sorry again, I've posted this in wrong thread, still not used to it, it's been a while.
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Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:10 pm

Get the water cannons out Boris, this could start to get very nasty if last nights pictures are anything to go by. There are good and bad cops in every country. Yes George Floyds death was awful to see but would like to see the statistics on how many white men get killed in America by the police, I suppose the people protesting could not give a shit about their lives because they would have nothing to protest about. If a white cop kills a white man it is not mentioned, but if a white cop kills a black man look out all cops are racist.

All lives matter not just black lives, where were these protestors when Lee Rigby was murdered by a black man, nowhere to be seen. Not to mention the other rascist killings of white people.

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:12 pm

Sven wrote:
Bobby banks wrote:Hello all, hello Annis, still as passionate as ever I see. I used to post here a few years ago but someone nicked my name (jama).

Nope, can't and didn't happen, fella! ;)

Same person has held the account since Friday Mar 02, 2012 at 12:01 pm and has never been banned or removed

Last post was on Monday Jan 06, 2014 at 4:03 pm but the same IP has been used for other names in the period since

Can't see any obvious issues other than a slight change of name, so maybe you simply forgot your password (easily remedied)?

Stick to the facts rather than telling others your account was 'nicked' because it simply isn't true! :roll:


Sorry posted a reply to this elsewhere in this thread. I meant to quote this post.

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:21 pm

llantrisantblue1927 wrote:Get the water cannons out Boris, this could start to get very nasty if last nights pictures are anything to go by. There are good and bad cops in every country. Yes George Floyds death was awful to see but would like to see the statistics on how many white men get killed in America by the police, I suppose the people protesting could not give a shit about their lives because they would have nothing to protest about. If a white cop kills a white man it is not mentioned, but if a white cop kills a black man look out all cops are racist.

All lives matter not just black lives, where were these protestors when Lee Rigby was murdered by a black man, nowhere to be seen. Not to mention the other rascist killings of white people.



more white men are killed by cops
but the big stat is over 90% of black homicide victims are killed by black men....

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:27 pm

A stat that will not be mentioned on BBC, SKY or Channel 4.

Ginger people been persecuted for years but I haven't seen ginger lives matter protests.

It's all nonsense, in the real world none of us care about skin colour, sometimes its a way for black people to play the victim card

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:31 pm

Citysince72 wrote:A stat that will not be mentioned on BBC, SKY or Channel 4.

Ginger people been persecuted for years but I haven't seen ginger lives matter protests.

It's all nonsense, in the real world none of us care about skin colour, sometimes its a way for black people to play the victim card



the stat above actually proves that... most murdered black men in the usa are killed by black men and most white homicide victims are killed by white men.. people kill for all sorts of reasons and race is way down the list otherwise the stats would read much different to what they do now...

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:38 pm

Murder, wether done by black man, white man, black on black, white on white for me it's human killing human. Skin colour doesn't come into it. But some black people in my opinion do play the race/victim card in many aspects of life, if i say to a man of colour i dislike his religion i am called a racist, if i say to a white man i dont like his religion nothing is said, how is that right and when did religion which is an ideology become a race ?

White black brown = human being, all have the same organs, all pee and sh@t the same way

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Sun Jun 07, 2020 7:07 pm

Russia, China and North Korea kept these demonstrations over BLM under control

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Mon Jun 08, 2020 7:16 am

Put on radio Wales on yesterday to chill with some tunes and what do I get...... Colin bloody Jackson and his sister !! One of the first things they start about is how black people like themselves are underprivileged and find it hard to get work !! Now forgive me if I'm wrong but she was in Casualty for donkeys ears and he has done ok for himself.

Anyway, I digress, my point is that these people in these positions should either be condemning the violence before anything else, or not given a platform to preach from but hey, what does one expect off the BBC lovies.

They laughed at Boris when he bought Water cannons, by God, we could do with them lately, hopefully old bill will be pouring over the CCTV tapes around the country and some will end in jail and others on a plane back to their own countries.

Last point, In this time of heightened tensions WTF are the BBC thinking by showing a program on the Windrush scandal tonight? Or is that their new anti government ploy, to stir up more racial hatred.

Off for a herbal tea. STAY SAFE LADS AND LASSES :ayatollah:

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:37 am

Heartbreaking that all our Great Grandparents/Grandparents fought for during the 1st and 2nd world wars were defaced and destroyed by a minority of thoughtless scumbags, and I’ve yet to see any arrests made for the violence, public order offences,assaults, criminal damage,

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:37 am

Heartbreaking that all our Great Grandparents/Grandparents fought for during the 1st and 2nd world wars were defaced and destroyed by a minority of thoughtless scumbags, and I’ve yet to see any arrests made for the violence, public order offences,assaults, criminal damage,

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:41 am

There won't be no arrests, it doesn't fit the narrative of the PC do holders.

Apparently police will study footage and make arrests. In other words nothing will come of it.

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:56 am

Lockdown laws are not being enforced, the police ignoring crowd congregation, vandalism, anarchy, violent disorder, irresponsible behaviour, all likely to encourage the spread of Covid

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:43 am

Forever Blue wrote:Heartbreaking that all our Great Grandparents/Grandparents fought for during the 1st and 2nd world wars were defaced and destroyed by a minority of thoughtless scumbags, and I’ve yet to see any arrests made for the violence, public order offences,assaults, criminal damage,



black lives matter mate...but it hasn't crossed their minds that there wouldn't be to many black lives left had Hitler won the war...

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:53 am

JulesK wrote:Put on radio Wales on yesterday to chill with some tunes and what do I get...... Colin bloody Jackson and his sister !! One of the first things they start about is how black people like themselves are underprivileged and find it hard to get work !! Now forgive me if I'm wrong but she was in Casualty for donkeys ears and he has done ok for himself.

Anyway, I digress, my point is that these people in these positions should either be condemning the violence before anything else, or not given a platform to preach from but hey, what does one expect off the BBC lovies.

They laughed at Boris when he bought Water cannons, by God, we could do with them lately, hopefully old bill will be pouring over the CCTV tapes around the country and some will end in jail and others on a plane back to their own countries.

Last point, In this time of heightened tensions WTF are the BBC thinking by showing a program on the Windrush scandal tonight? Or is that their new anti government ploy, to stir up more racial hatred.

Off for a herbal tea. STAY SAFE LADS AND LASSES :ayatollah:


John Barnes gets on my nerves, all because no one will employ him as a Manager, probably because he's not been able to prove he can manage or coach?

Tony Adams has always been the same, if you're good enough you'll make it if your not you won't!

Re: Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do t

Mon Jun 08, 2020 12:04 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Parliament square just now. Seriously ! what chance do the NHS have. These same morons probally clapped every Thursday night too.
f*cking morons ! every single one of them.
These pricks are our future.
Brainless f*cking idiots.


I’d say it was just unbelievable but it’s not given the huge number of brainless, selfish and stupid people involved.

Cue a 2nd wave but to these people protesting appears to be more important.