The left wing agenda

A year ago this week the left wing print and broadcast media had delivered the Tory party obituary. The BBC wheeled out political grandee after political grandee telling us the party were broken and for good. They ran 100's of stories of leave voters who'd apparently changed their mind and would now vote remain. Where did they go on 12th Dec. They see Dominic Cummings as huge factor in stealing victory and the death of Brexit from their hands.

Truth is he saw through their propaganda and paradoxically seems to be more in touch with the common mans thinking than most would give him credit for. Sure he's in trouble here, he shouldn't have broken the rules as he did. At the moment though he's already won the war. Instrumental in delivery the party from the depths of despair to a huge majority. Brexit will happen whether the BBC like it or not.

We do however need to remove the organisation from the position of a publicly funded service provider. Need to get on with that as soon as the current crisis is behind us. This isn't about Dominic Cummings really, its about turning over this government. He's just provided the first step.

I would add - TV Licencing is not a criminal offence these days (I think) - so if any TV licence person knocks on your door - tell them they arent coming in. Better still put a notice on your front gate - no visitors whatsoever due to corona.

the BBC needs a good kicking, when the dust settles sort em out Cummings, we don't want to have to pay for that biased shit, sack them all

You don't have to have a TV licence unless you watch 'live' broadcasts or the BBC iPlayer. You aren't being forced.
1.The TV enforcement officer has no more right to enter your home than the school lollipop lady.
2. It requires a warrant from a magistrate and for that they need to have reasonable evidence of an offence being committed to get one. Saying that your address isn't on the database isn't evidence.

You will however be regularly pestered by a letter from Capita threatening you with a visit. (See 1.)

There, now you never need to watch or pay for the BBC ever again and you can stop moaning about them.

But surely that would be breaking the law, or certainly some rules?

I couldn't possibly do that, we're Cardiff City fans, and as you can see above we are all saints and no one has ever broken a rule, except Jock once, and he was drunk so that's fair enough

What I've told you is absolute fact. So when your current licence expires you know what to do. You don't need to speak to them, write to them or answer your door to them. You've not entered a contract with them once your license expires so by law you don't need to. I've not had a TV licence for six years.
No more BBC for you unless you still want to pay for an organisation you claim you don't want to pay for.

A year ago this week the left wing print and broadcast media had delivered the Tory party obituary. The BBC wheeled out political grandee after political grandee telling us the party were broken and for good. They ran 100's of stories of leave voters who'd apparently changed their mind and would now vote remain. Where did they go on 12th Dec. They see Dominic Cummings as huge factor in stealing victory and the death of Brexit from their hands.

Truth is he saw through their propaganda and paradoxically seems to be more in touch with the common mans thinking than most would give him credit for. Sure he's in trouble here, he shouldn't have broken the rules as he did. At the moment though he's already won the war. Instrumental in delivery the party from the depths of despair to a huge majority. Brexit will happen whether the BBC like it or not.

We do however need to remove the organisation from the position of a publicly funded service provider. Need to get on with that as soon as the current crisis is behind us. This isn't about Dominic Cummings really, its about turning over this government. He's just provided the first step.

the BBC needs a good kicking, when the dust settles sort em out Cummings, we don't want to have to pay for that biased shit, sack them all

You don't have to have a TV licence unless you watch 'live' broadcasts or the BBC iPlayer. You aren't being forced.
1.The TV enforcement officer has no more right to enter your home than the school lollipop lady.
2. It requires a warrant from a magistrate and for that they need to have reasonable evidence of an offence being committed to get one. Saying that your address isn't on the database isn't evidence.

You will however be regularly pestered by a letter from Capita threatening you with a visit. (See 1.)

There, now you never need to watch or pay for the BBC ever again and you can stop moaning about them.

But surely that would be breaking the law, or certainly some rules?

I couldn't possibly do that, we're Cardiff City fans, and as you can see above we are all saints and no one has ever broken a rule, except Jock once, and he was drunk so that's fair enough

What I've told you is absolute fact. So when your current licence expires you know what to do. You don't need to speak to them, write to them or answer your door to them. You've not entered a contract with them once your license expires so by law you don't need to. I've not had a TV licence for six years.
No more BBC for you unless you still want to pay for an organisation you claim you don't want to pay for.

I bet you or someone in your household has watched it in the last six years, very naughty the detector vans will get you!

I want them smashed up, so nobody has to pay, they need sorting.

f**k me these people are running the U;K
You couldn't make this ip

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/ ... -baranard/

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

Fair play to you - You started this thread with what in mind ?? As this was the only post you made - and sat back .
The boy who starts a fire and runs off ( your not the only 1 on here of late ) - I do my homework
As i said - As i don't vote i look at each case / situation - But i will be open " The left wing agenda " is this thread -
So why have all these Con MP's come out wanting Cummings to go - Are they the left wing - Looking Forward to explain .

Cummings 1) Rolling list of Conservative MPs who’ve called on him to go

Peter Aldous
Steve Baker
Harriet Baldwin
Peter Bone
Eliot Colburn
Damian Collins
Philip Davies
Jackie Doyle-Price
Roger Gale
Mark Garnier
Robert Goodwill
James Gray
Stephen Hammond
Mark Harper
Simon Hoare
Andrew Jones
Simon Jupp
Tim Loughton
Paul Maynard
Stephen Metcalfe
Jason McCartney
Bob Neill
Caroline Nokes
Mark Pawsey
Andrew Percy
Laurence Robertson
Douglas Ross
Alec Shelbrooke
John Stevenson
Bob Stewart
Julian Sturdy
Robert Syms
Martin Vicker
Craig Whittaker
William Wragg
Jeremy Wright

David Warburton is “unconvinced by the PM’s defence of Cummings”.
More to follow - like more hits on here - You are have done the owners well

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

Fair play to you - You started this thread with what in mind ?? As this was the only post you made - and sat back .
The boy who starts a fire and runs off ( your not the only 1 on here of late ) - I do my homework
As i said - As i don't vote i look at each case / situation - But i will be open " The left wing agenda " is this thread -
So why have all these Con MP's come out wanting Cummings to go - Are they the left wing - Looking Forward to explain .

Cummings 1) Rolling list of Conservative MPs who’ve called on him to go

Peter Aldous
Steve Baker
Harriet Baldwin
Peter Bone
Eliot Colburn
Damian Collins
Philip Davies
Jackie Doyle-Price
Roger Gale
Mark Garnier
Robert Goodwill
James Gray
Stephen Hammond
Mark Harper
Simon Hoare
Andrew Jones
Simon Jupp
Tim Loughton
Paul Maynard
Stephen Metcalfe
Jason McCartney
Bob Neill
Caroline Nokes
Mark Pawsey
Andrew Percy
Laurence Robertson
Douglas Ross
Alec Shelbrooke
John Stevenson
Bob Stewart
Julian Sturdy
Robert Syms
Martin Vicker
Craig Whittaker
William Wragg
Jeremy Wright

David Warburton is “unconvinced by the PM’s defence of Cummings”.
More to follow - like more hits on here - You are have done the owners well

Game, set and match

Murphy or Hoilett?

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

Fair play to you - You started this thread with what in mind ?? As this was the only post you made - and sat back .
The boy who starts a fire and runs off ( your not the only 1 on here of late ) - I do my homework
As i said - As i don't vote i look at each case / situation - But i will be open " The left wing agenda " is this thread -
So why have all these Con MP's come out wanting Cummings to go - Are they the left wing - Looking Forward to explain .

Cummings 1) Rolling list of Conservative MPs who’ve called on him to go

Peter Aldous
Steve Baker
Harriet Baldwin
Peter Bone
Eliot Colburn
Damian Collins
Philip Davies
Jackie Doyle-Price
Roger Gale
Mark Garnier
Robert Goodwill
James Gray
Stephen Hammond
Mark Harper
Simon Hoare
Andrew Jones
Simon Jupp
Tim Loughton
Paul Maynard
Stephen Metcalfe
Jason McCartney
Bob Neill
Caroline Nokes
Mark Pawsey
Andrew Percy
Laurence Robertson
Douglas Ross
Alec Shelbrooke
John Stevenson
Bob Stewart
Julian Sturdy
Robert Syms
Martin Vicker
Craig Whittaker
William Wragg
Jeremy Wright

David Warburton is “unconvinced by the PM’s defence of Cummings”.
More to follow - like more hits on here - You are have done the owners well

Perfect

A year ago this week the left wing print and broadcast media had delivered the Tory party obituary. The BBC wheeled out political grandee after political grandee telling us the party were broken and for good. They ran 100's of stories of leave voters who'd apparently changed their mind and would now vote remain. Where did they go on 12th Dec. They see Dominic Cummings as huge factor in stealing victory and the death of Brexit from their hands.

Truth is he saw through their propaganda and paradoxically seems to be more in touch with the common mans thinking than most would give him credit for. Sure he's in trouble here, he shouldn't have broken the rules as he did. At the moment though he's already won the war. Instrumental in delivery the party from the depths of despair to a huge majority. Brexit will happen whether the BBC like it or not.

We do however need to remove the organisation from the position of a publicly funded service provider. Need to get on with that as soon as the current crisis is behind us. This isn't about Dominic Cummings really, its about turning over this government. He's just provided the first step.

the BBC needs a good kicking, when the dust settles sort em out Cummings, we don't want to have to pay for that biased shit, sack them all

You don't have to have a TV licence unless you watch 'live' broadcasts or the BBC iPlayer. You aren't being forced.
1.The TV enforcement officer has no more right to enter your home than the school lollipop lady.
2. It requires a warrant from a magistrate and for that they need to have reasonable evidence of an offence being committed to get one. Saying that your address isn't on the database isn't evidence.

You will however be regularly pestered by a letter from Capita threatening you with a visit. (See 1.)

There, now you never need to watch or pay for the BBC ever again and you can stop moaning about them.

But surely that would be breaking the law, or certainly some rules?

I couldn't possibly do that, we're Cardiff City fans, and as you can see above we are all saints and no one has ever broken a rule, except Jock once, and he was drunk so that's fair enough

What I've told you is absolute fact. So when your current licence expires you know what to do. You don't need to speak to them, write to them or answer your door to them. You've not entered a contract with them once your license expires so by law you don't need to. I've not had a TV licence for six years.
No more BBC for you unless you still want to pay for an organisation you claim you don't want to pay for.

I bet you or someone in your household has watched it in the last six years, very naughty the detector vans will get you!

I want them smashed up, so nobody has to pay, they need sorting.

Someone may or may not have watched it. After all we can watch it on any portable device too. It's a law that has become very hard to enforce. You might be interested to know that there aren't and never were any actual detector vans. Just vans with detection van on them with fake antenna. It's all public deception. There have been numerous freedom of information requests about those vans and the number of people caught and convicted with evidence provided by them and there are none. The way it was done previously was that a man had a list of homes without a licence came around and if they saw a TV on in that house it meant you were definitely watching TV without a licence. No ifs or buts you were caught. These days there's Netflix and YouTube and catch up TV and if you run a ethernet cable between router and TV/TV box there's no signal to detect anyhow. They aren't live broadcasts so no licence is needed by law.
As I said, it's hard to enforce. You can write to Capita if you like and declare you don't need a licence and there's nothing they can do. They'll still harass you with letters now and then. You can send them a notice of Removal of Implied Right of Access to stop them coming onto your property. If you don't want to pay the BBC you really don't have to.

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

It's only the right wing sympathisers that are making this political.

The bottom line is that this is a choice between right or wrong. The rules were there, no unnecessary travel, no moving to second homes, people with symptoms should stay at home and self isolate, etc. He broke those rules and undermined public confidence and, as a senior advisor, he simply has to go.

If he had said "I made a mistake, I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the guidance and accept responsibility" he might have got away with it but anyone trying to justify what is clearly wrong just has to go. Whatever the political views.

Boris needs to be careful how long he lets this go on because much longer and he'll have some more difficult questions to answer.

He's no longer up against Corbyn who was a buffoon, Keir Starmer is methodical and a man for detail and PMs questions will be pretty difficult for Boris if he hasn't sorted this by then.

Murphy or Hoilett?

Brilliant.
I’d say Hoilett.

A year ago this week the left wing print and broadcast media had delivered the Tory party obituary. The BBC wheeled out political grandee after political grandee telling us the party were broken and for good. They ran 100's of stories of leave voters who'd apparently changed their mind and would now vote remain. Where did they go on 12th Dec. They see Dominic Cummings as huge factor in stealing victory and the death of Brexit from their hands.

Truth is he saw through their propaganda and paradoxically seems to be more in touch with the common mans thinking than most would give him credit for. Sure he's in trouble here, he shouldn't have broken the rules as he did. At the moment though he's already won the war. Instrumental in delivery the party from the depths of despair to a huge majority. Brexit will happen whether the BBC like it or not.

We do however need to remove the organisation from the position of a publicly funded service provider. Need to get on with that as soon as the current crisis is behind us. This isn't about Dominic Cummings really, its about turning over this government. He's just provided the first step.

the BBC needs a good kicking, when the dust settles sort em out Cummings, we don't want to have to pay for that biased shit, sack them all

You don't have to have a TV licence unless you watch 'live' broadcasts or the BBC iPlayer. You aren't being forced.
1.The TV enforcement officer has no more right to enter your home than the school lollipop lady.
2. It requires a warrant from a magistrate and for that they need to have reasonable evidence of an offence being committed to get one. Saying that your address isn't on the database isn't evidence.

You will however be regularly pestered by a letter from Capita threatening you with a visit. (See 1.)

There, now you never need to watch or pay for the BBC ever again and you can stop moaning about them.

But surely that would be breaking the law, or certainly some rules?

I couldn't possibly do that, we're Cardiff City fans, and as you can see above we are all saints and no one has ever broken a rule, except Jock once, and he was drunk so that's fair enough

What I've told you is absolute fact. So when your current licence expires you know what to do. You don't need to speak to them, write to them or answer your door to them. You've not entered a contract with them once your license expires so by law you don't need to. I've not had a TV licence for six years.
No more BBC for you unless you still want to pay for an organisation you claim you don't want to pay for.

I bet you or someone in your household has watched it in the last six years, very naughty the detector vans will get you!

I want them smashed up, so nobody has to pay, they need sorting.

Someone may or may not have watched it. After all we can watch it on any portable device too. It's a law that has become very hard to enforce. You might be interested to know that there aren't and never were any actual detector vans. Just vans with detection van on them with fake antenna. It's all public deception. There have been numerous freedom of information requests about those vans and the number of people caught and convicted with evidence provided by them and there are none. The way it was done previously was that a man had a list of homes without a licence came around and if they saw a TV on in that house it meant you were definitely watching TV without a licence. No ifs or buts you were caught. These days there's Netflix and YouTube and catch up TV and if you run a ethernet cable between router and TV/TV box there's no signal to detect anyhow. They aren't live broadcasts so no licence is needed by law.
As I said, it's hard to enforce. You can write to Capita if you like and declare you don't need a licence and there's nothing they can do. They'll still harass you with letters now and then. You can send them a notice of Removal of Implied Right of Access to stop them coming onto your property. If you don't want to pay the BBC you really don't have to.

Murphy or Hoilett?

Brilliant.
I’d say Hoilett.

Next season Murphy, Harris will get him flying (I hope)

Hoilett is a class player too, I hope he's got another good season in him at least.

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

It's only the right wing sympathisers that are making this political.

The bottom line is that this is a choice between right or wrong. The rules were there, no unnecessary travel, no moving to second homes, people with symptoms should stay at home and self isolate, etc. He broke those rules and undermined public confidence and, as a senior advisor, he simply has to go.

If he had said "I made a mistake, I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the guidance and accept responsibility" he might have got away with it but anyone trying to justify what is clearly wrong just has to go. Whatever the political views.

Boris needs to be careful how long he lets this go on because much longer and he'll have some more difficult questions to answer.

He's no longer up against Corbyn who was a buffoon, Keir Starmer is methodical and a man for detail and PMs questions will be pretty difficult for Boris if he hasn't sorted this by then.

Rightwing sympathisers the whole political landscape has changed in the UK as political parties have moved more to the left. Now anyone who doesn’t agree with Momentum is pigeonholed as Far Right, Extreme Right or even (by the retards who walk amongst us) Facist. Strangely the BBC never call anyone extreme left, go figure. The difference in media coverage between Cummings and Kinnock proves it’s political and driven by those real fascists who identify as Leftwing.

Murphy or Hoilett?

Houlett, Murphy is more suited to No10 ........not Downing Street

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

It's only the right wing sympathisers that are making this political.

The bottom line is that this is a choice between right or wrong. The rules were there, no unnecessary travel, no moving to second homes, people with symptoms should stay at home and self isolate, etc. He broke those rules and undermined public confidence and, as a senior advisor, he simply has to go.

If he had said "I made a mistake, I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the guidance and accept responsibility" he might have got away with it but anyone trying to justify what is clearly wrong just has to go. Whatever the political views.

Boris needs to be careful how long he lets this go on because much longer and he'll have some more difficult questions to answer.

He's no longer up against Corbyn who was a buffoon, Keir Starmer is methodical and a man for detail and PMs questions will be pretty difficult for Boris if he hasn't sorted this by then.

Rightwing sympathisers the whole political landscape has changed in the UK as political parties have moved more to the left. Now anyone who doesn’t agree with Momentum is pigeonholed as Far Right, Extreme Right or even (by the retards who walk amongst us) Facist. Strangely the BBC never call anyone extreme left, go figure. The difference in media coverage between Cummings and Kinnock proves it’s political and driven by those real fascists who identify as Leftwing.

The last sentence completely sums this up for me. Couldn't give a shit about Dominic Cummings to be honest but the media have been outrageous in their approach to these respective cases.

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

It's only the right wing sympathisers that are making this political.

The bottom line is that this is a choice between right or wrong. The rules were there, no unnecessary travel, no moving to second homes, people with symptoms should stay at home and self isolate, etc. He broke those rules and undermined public confidence and, as a senior advisor, he simply has to go.

If he had said "I made a mistake, I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the guidance and accept responsibility" he might have got away with it but anyone trying to justify what is clearly wrong just has to go. Whatever the political views.

Boris needs to be careful how long he lets this go on because much longer and he'll have some more difficult questions to answer.

He's no longer up against Corbyn who was a buffoon, Keir Starmer is methodical and a man for detail and PMs questions will be pretty difficult for Boris if he hasn't sorted this by then.

Rightwing sympathisers the whole political landscape has changed in the UK as political parties have moved more to the left. Now anyone who doesn’t agree with Momentum is pigeonholed as Far Right, Extreme Right or even (by the retards who walk amongst us) Facist. Strangely the BBC never call anyone extreme left, go figure. The difference in media coverage between Cummings and Kinnock proves it’s political and driven by those real fascists who identify as Leftwing.

Are you seriously comparing the Kinnock visit with what Cummings did

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-03- ... -birthday/

No travelling with sick wife, no travelling about sightseeing once at destination, a visit of hours rather than weeks with no contact with others.

Kinnock was wrong and police commented on it and did not take it further. Cummings however .......................

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

It's only the right wing sympathisers that are making this political.

The bottom line is that this is a choice between right or wrong. The rules were there, no unnecessary travel, no moving to second homes, people with symptoms should stay at home and self isolate, etc. He broke those rules and undermined public confidence and, as a senior advisor, he simply has to go.

If he had said "I made a mistake, I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the guidance and accept responsibility" he might have got away with it but anyone trying to justify what is clearly wrong just has to go. Whatever the political views.

Boris needs to be careful how long he lets this go on because much longer and he'll have some more difficult questions to answer.

He's no longer up against Corbyn who was a buffoon, Keir Starmer is methodical and a man for detail and PMs questions will be pretty difficult for Boris if he hasn't sorted this by then.

Rightwing sympathisers the whole political landscape has changed in the UK as political parties have moved more to the left. Now anyone who doesn’t agree with Momentum is pigeonholed as Far Right, Extreme Right or even (by the retards who walk amongst us) Facist. Strangely the BBC never call anyone extreme left, go figure. The difference in media coverage between Cummings and Kinnock proves it’s political and driven by those real fascists who identify as Leftwing.

Are you seriously comparing the Kinnock visit with what Cummings did

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-03- ... -birthday/

No travelling with sick wife, no travelling about sightseeing once at destination, a visit of hours rather than weeks with no contact with others.

Kinnock was wrong and police commented on it and did not take it further. Cummings however .......................

Kinnock also admitted he as wrong and did not try to defend it; unlike Cummings who can't see that he did anything wrong unlike the majority of the population.

He drove to Barnard Castle with his family in the car in order to test his eye sight? Whatever your politics? Please open your intelligence

He was out in the country driving.This was to take the fields test [side vision] part of the eye test.
Micheal Gove took the same test apparently.

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

It's only the right wing sympathisers that are making this political.

The bottom line is that this is a choice between right or wrong. The rules were there, no unnecessary travel, no moving to second homes, people with symptoms should stay at home and self isolate, etc. He broke those rules and undermined public confidence and, as a senior advisor, he simply has to go.

If he had said "I made a mistake, I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the guidance and accept responsibility" he might have got away with it but anyone trying to justify what is clearly wrong just has to go. Whatever the political views.

Boris needs to be careful how long he lets this go on because much longer and he'll have some more difficult questions to answer.

He's no longer up against Corbyn who was a buffoon, Keir Starmer is methodical and a man for detail and PMs questions will be pretty difficult for Boris if he hasn't sorted this by then.

Rightwing sympathisers the whole political landscape has changed in the UK as political parties have moved more to the left. Now anyone who doesn’t agree with Momentum is pigeonholed as Far Right, Extreme Right or even (by the retards who walk amongst us) Facist. Strangely the BBC never call anyone extreme left, go figure. The difference in media coverage between Cummings and Kinnock proves it’s political and driven by those real fascists who identify as Leftwing.

Are you seriously comparing the Kinnock visit with what Cummings did

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-03- ... -birthday/

No travelling with sick wife, no travelling about sightseeing once at destination, a visit of hours rather than weeks with no contact with others.

Kinnock was wrong and police commented on it and did not take it further. Cummings however .......................

Kinnock also admitted he as wrong and did not try to defend it; unlike Cummings who can't see that he did anything wrong unlike the majority of the population.

He said he was delivering essential supplies. That's trying to defend it in anyone's book. Nobodies even asked him what the essential supplies were though. Looked like cake and food to me. Cummings broke the rules in the presence of his wife and child. Kinnock broke the rules in the presence of a Former EU commissioner, a former MEP and a former Prime Minister of European country. Christ it was not far off a World Summit on that North London doorstep. You'd have thought one of that four would have seen an ounce of sense and kept Stephen Kinnock the right side of the bridge. An American express gets you into lots of places, seems like a social workers card get you off a lot of front pages.

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

It's only the right wing sympathisers that are making this political.

The bottom line is that this is a choice between right or wrong. The rules were there, no unnecessary travel, no moving to second homes, people with symptoms should stay at home and self isolate, etc. He broke those rules and undermined public confidence and, as a senior advisor, he simply has to go.

If he had said "I made a mistake, I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the guidance and accept responsibility" he might have got away with it but anyone trying to justify what is clearly wrong just has to go. Whatever the political views.

Boris needs to be careful how long he lets this go on because much longer and he'll have some more difficult questions to answer.

He's no longer up against Corbyn who was a buffoon, Keir Starmer is methodical and a man for detail and PMs questions will be pretty difficult for Boris if he hasn't sorted this by then.

Rightwing sympathisers the whole political landscape has changed in the UK as political parties have moved more to the left. Now anyone who doesn’t agree with Momentum is pigeonholed as Far Right, Extreme Right or even (by the retards who walk amongst us) Facist. Strangely the BBC never call anyone extreme left, go figure. The difference in media coverage between Cummings and Kinnock proves it’s political and driven by those real fascists who identify as Leftwing.

Are you seriously comparing the Kinnock visit with what Cummings did

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-03- ... -birthday/

No travelling with sick wife, no travelling about sightseeing once at destination, a visit of hours rather than weeks with no contact with others.

Kinnock was wrong and police commented on it and did not take it further. Cummings however .......................

Kinnock also admitted he as wrong and did not try to defend it; unlike Cummings who can't see that he did anything wrong unlike the majority of the population.

Kinnock had very little option. as he was caught out by his own social media which spelled out his reason for the visit...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ather-neil

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

It's only the right wing sympathisers that are making this political.

The bottom line is that this is a choice between right or wrong. The rules were there, no unnecessary travel, no moving to second homes, people with symptoms should stay at home and self isolate, etc. He broke those rules and undermined public confidence and, as a senior advisor, he simply has to go.

If he had said "I made a mistake, I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the guidance and accept responsibility" he might have got away with it but anyone trying to justify what is clearly wrong just has to go. Whatever the political views.

Boris needs to be careful how long he lets this go on because much longer and he'll have some more difficult questions to answer.

He's no longer up against Corbyn who was a buffoon, Keir Starmer is methodical and a man for detail and PMs questions will be pretty difficult for Boris if he hasn't sorted this by then.

Rightwing sympathisers the whole political landscape has changed in the UK as political parties have moved more to the left. Now anyone who doesn’t agree with Momentum is pigeonholed as Far Right, Extreme Right or even (by the retards who walk amongst us) Facist. Strangely the BBC never call anyone extreme left, go figure. The difference in media coverage between Cummings and Kinnock proves it’s political and driven by those real fascists who identify as Leftwing.

Are you seriously comparing the Kinnock visit with what Cummings did

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-03- ... -birthday/

No travelling with sick wife, no travelling about sightseeing once at destination, a visit of hours rather than weeks with no contact with others.

Kinnock was wrong and police commented on it and did not take it further. Cummings however .......................

Kinnock also admitted he as wrong and did not try to defend it; unlike Cummings who can't see that he did anything wrong unlike the majority of the population.

He said he was delivering essential supplies. That's trying to defend it in anyone's book. Nobodies even asked him what the essential supplies were though. Looked like cake and food to me. Cummings broke the rules in the presence of his wife and child. Kinnock broke the rules in the presence of a Former EU commissioner, a former MEP and a former Prime Minister of European country. Christ it was not far off a World Summit on that North London doorstep. You'd have thought one of that four would have seen an ounce of sense and kept Stephen Kinnock the right side of the bridge. An American express gets you into lots of places, seems like a social workers card get you off a lot of front pages.

But where am I defending Kinnock ? I said he was wrong but that the breach was nowhere near as serious or potentially damaging to others as Cummings' was !

You appear to be defending Cummings Surely you can see the difference between the two incidents, both were wrong and in contradiction of guidelines so how can you defend Cummings ?

A year ago this week the left wing print and broadcast media had delivered the Tory party obituary. The BBC wheeled out political grandee after political grandee telling us the party were broken and for good. They ran 100's of stories of leave voters who'd apparently changed their mind and would now vote remain. Where did they go on 12th Dec. They see Dominic Cummings as huge factor in stealing victory and the death of Brexit from their hands.

Truth is he saw through their propaganda and paradoxically seems to be more in touch with the common mans thinking than most would give him credit for. Sure he's in trouble here, he shouldn't have broken the rules as he did. At the moment though he's already won the war. Instrumental in delivery the party from the depths of despair to a huge majority. Brexit will happen whether the BBC like it or not.

We do however need to remove the organisation from the position of a publicly funded service provider. Need to get on with that as soon as the current crisis is behind us. This isn't about Dominic Cummings really, its about turning over this government. He's just provided the first step.

the BBC needs a good kicking, when the dust settles sort em out Cummings, we don't want to have to pay for that biased shit, sack them all

You don't have to have a TV licence unless you watch 'live' broadcasts or the BBC iPlayer. You aren't being forced.
1.The TV enforcement officer has no more right to enter your home than the school lollipop lady.
2. It requires a warrant from a magistrate and for that they need to have reasonable evidence of an offence being committed to get one. Saying that your address isn't on the database isn't evidence.

You will however be regularly pestered by a letter from Capita threatening you with a visit. (See 1.)

There, now you never need to watch or pay for the BBC ever again and you can stop moaning about them.

But surely that would be breaking the law, or certainly some rules?

I couldn't possibly do that, we're Cardiff City fans, and as you can see above we are all saints and no one has ever broken a rule, except Jock once, and he was drunk so that's fair enough

If only Sir Lincoln Hannlihan had been as understanding as yourself

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

It's only the right wing sympathisers that are making this political.

The bottom line is that this is a choice between right or wrong. The rules were there, no unnecessary travel, no moving to second homes, people with symptoms should stay at home and self isolate, etc. He broke those rules and undermined public confidence and, as a senior advisor, he simply has to go.

If he had said "I made a mistake, I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the guidance and accept responsibility" he might have got away with it but anyone trying to justify what is clearly wrong just has to go. Whatever the political views.

Boris needs to be careful how long he lets this go on because much longer and he'll have some more difficult questions to answer.

He's no longer up against Corbyn who was a buffoon, Keir Starmer is methodical and a man for detail and PMs questions will be pretty difficult for Boris if he hasn't sorted this by then.

Rightwing sympathisers the whole political landscape has changed in the UK as political parties have moved more to the left. Now anyone who doesn’t agree with Momentum is pigeonholed as Far Right, Extreme Right or even (by the retards who walk amongst us) Facist. Strangely the BBC never call anyone extreme left, go figure. The difference in media coverage between Cummings and Kinnock proves it’s political and driven by those real fascists who identify as Leftwing.

Are you seriously comparing the Kinnock visit with what Cummings did

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-03- ... -birthday/

No travelling with sick wife, no travelling about sightseeing once at destination, a visit of hours rather than weeks with no contact with others.

Kinnock was wrong and police commented on it and did not take it further. Cummings however .......................

Kinnock also admitted he as wrong and did not try to defend it; unlike Cummings who can't see that he did anything wrong unlike the majority of the population.

He said he was delivering essential supplies. That's trying to defend it in anyone's book. Nobodies even asked him what the essential supplies were though. Looked like cake and food to me. Cummings broke the rules in the presence of his wife and child. Kinnock broke the rules in the presence of a Former EU commissioner, a former MEP and a former Prime Minister of European country. Christ it was not far off a World Summit on that North London doorstep. You'd have thought one of that four would have seen an ounce of sense and kept Stephen Kinnock the right side of the bridge. An American express gets you into lots of places, seems like a social workers card get you off a lot of front pages.

But where am I defending Kinnock ? I said he was wrong but that the breach was nowhere near as serious or potentially damaging to others as Cummings' was !

You appear to be defending Cummings Surely you can see the difference between the two incidents, both were wrong and in contradiction of guidelines so how can you defend Cummings ?

how is it nowhere near as damaging.... the only way that holds water is damage to public opinion which lays with a witch hunt in one case and a degree of understanding in the other...

I think labour should back off.It's always handy to have a couple of useful idiots about

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

It's only the right wing sympathisers that are making this political.

The bottom line is that this is a choice between right or wrong. The rules were there, no unnecessary travel, no moving to second homes, people with symptoms should stay at home and self isolate, etc. He broke those rules and undermined public confidence and, as a senior advisor, he simply has to go.

If he had said "I made a mistake, I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the guidance and accept responsibility" he might have got away with it but anyone trying to justify what is clearly wrong just has to go. Whatever the political views.

Boris needs to be careful how long he lets this go on because much longer and he'll have some more difficult questions to answer.

He's no longer up against Corbyn who was a buffoon, Keir Starmer is methodical and a man for detail and PMs questions will be pretty difficult for Boris if he hasn't sorted this by then.

Rightwing sympathisers the whole political landscape has changed in the UK as political parties have moved more to the left. Now anyone who doesn’t agree with Momentum is pigeonholed as Far Right, Extreme Right or even (by the retards who walk amongst us) Facist. Strangely the BBC never call anyone extreme left, go figure. The difference in media coverage between Cummings and Kinnock proves it’s political and driven by those real fascists who identify as Leftwing.

Are you seriously comparing the Kinnock visit with what Cummings did

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-03- ... -birthday/

No travelling with sick wife, no travelling about sightseeing once at destination, a visit of hours rather than weeks with no contact with others.

Kinnock was wrong and police commented on it and did not take it further. Cummings however .......................

Kinnock also admitted he as wrong and did not try to defend it; unlike Cummings who can't see that he did anything wrong unlike the majority of the population.

He said he was delivering essential supplies. That's trying to defend it in anyone's book. Nobodies even asked him what the essential supplies were though. Looked like cake and food to me. Cummings broke the rules in the presence of his wife and child. Kinnock broke the rules in the presence of a Former EU commissioner, a former MEP and a former Prime Minister of European country. Christ it was not far off a World Summit on that North London doorstep. You'd have thought one of that four would have seen an ounce of sense and kept Stephen Kinnock the right side of the bridge. An American express gets you into lots of places, seems like a social workers card get you off a lot of front pages.

But where am I defending Kinnock ? I said he was wrong but that the breach was nowhere near as serious or potentially damaging to others as Cummings' was !

You appear to be defending Cummings Surely you can see the difference between the two incidents, both were wrong and in contradiction of guidelines so how can you defend Cummings ?

how is it nowhere near as damaging.... the only way that holds water is damage to public opinion which lays with a witch hunt in one case and a degree of understanding in the other...

OK I'll try and make this simple. The reasons why Cummings actions were potentially more damaging as follows:

1. He undermined guidance (of which he had a detailed understanding) on not travelling to 2nd homes
2. He and his wife were both exhibiting symptoms (immediate 7-14 days isolation in your home for everyone else)
3. He went sightseeing whilst away, got out of the car so clearly a risk in transmission and another non-essential journey
4. Even if we believe the childcare story if he and his wife had been positive they planned to ask family in adjoining property to take care of the child. Whilst the child would probably been OK there is medical opinion that they can still carry the infection which would place those family members at risk of further transmission.
5. He had childcare options in London with his sister, his choice to travel to Durham not a necessity
6. He travelled home again and on the way stopped for petrol, exposing staff to impossible infection.
7. He still thinks he did nothing wrong which clearly has to bring question marks against his judgement

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

It's only the right wing sympathisers that are making this political.

The bottom line is that this is a choice between right or wrong. The rules were there, no unnecessary travel, no moving to second homes, people with symptoms should stay at home and self isolate, etc. He broke those rules and undermined public confidence and, as a senior advisor, he simply has to go.

If he had said "I made a mistake, I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the guidance and accept responsibility" he might have got away with it but anyone trying to justify what is clearly wrong just has to go. Whatever the political views.

Boris needs to be careful how long he lets this go on because much longer and he'll have some more difficult questions to answer.

He's no longer up against Corbyn who was a buffoon, Keir Starmer is methodical and a man for detail and PMs questions will be pretty difficult for Boris if he hasn't sorted this by then.

Rightwing sympathisers the whole political landscape has changed in the UK as political parties have moved more to the left. Now anyone who doesn’t agree with Momentum is pigeonholed as Far Right, Extreme Right or even (by the retards who walk amongst us) Facist. Strangely the BBC never call anyone extreme left, go figure. The difference in media coverage between Cummings and Kinnock proves it’s political and driven by those real fascists who identify as Leftwing.

Are you seriously comparing the Kinnock visit with what Cummings did

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-03- ... -birthday/

No travelling with sick wife, no travelling about sightseeing once at destination, a visit of hours rather than weeks with no contact with others.

Kinnock was wrong and police commented on it and did not take it further. Cummings however .......................

Kinnock also admitted he as wrong and did not try to defend it; unlike Cummings who can't see that he did anything wrong unlike the majority of the population.

He said he was delivering essential supplies. That's trying to defend it in anyone's book. Nobodies even asked him what the essential supplies were though. Looked like cake and food to me. Cummings broke the rules in the presence of his wife and child. Kinnock broke the rules in the presence of a Former EU commissioner, a former MEP and a former Prime Minister of European country. Christ it was not far off a World Summit on that North London doorstep. You'd have thought one of that four would have seen an ounce of sense and kept Stephen Kinnock the right side of the bridge. An American express gets you into lots of places, seems like a social workers card get you off a lot of front pages.

But where am I defending Kinnock ? I said he was wrong but that the breach was nowhere near as serious or potentially damaging to others as Cummings' was !

You appear to be defending Cummings Surely you can see the difference between the two incidents, both were wrong and in contradiction of guidelines so how can you defend Cummings ?

how is it nowhere near as damaging.... the only way that holds water is damage to public opinion which lays with a witch hunt in one case and a degree of understanding in the other...

OK I'll try and make this simple. The reasons why Cummings actions were potentially more damaging as follows:

1. He undermined guidance (of which he had a detailed understanding) on not travelling to 2nd homes
2. He and his wife were both exhibiting symptoms (immediate 7-14 days isolation in your home for everyone else)
3. He went sightseeing whilst away, got out of the car so clearly a risk in transmission and another non-essential journey
4. Even if we believe the childcare story if he and his wife had been positive they planned to ask family in adjoining property to take care of the child. Whilst the child would probably been OK there is medical opinion that they can still carry the infection which would place those family members at risk of further transmission.
5. He had childcare options in London with his sister, his choice to travel to Durham not a necessity
6. He travelled home again and on the way stopped for petrol, exposing staff to impossible infection.
7. He still thinks he did nothing wrong which clearly has to bring question marks against his judgement

there was provision regarding childcare in the guide lines 1 and 2
sightseeing....unless other evidence turns up that's purely opinion. 3
he had said there were older teenagers in the other property capable of babysitting and also in a low risk group ..4
5.. is purely made up...you do not know circumstances any more than I do so how can you conclude that.
6.. he had isolated and garages are open mate , do you think no one who has isolated buys petrol ?
7...if all he said was true... and going by the guide lines..did he do wrong ..its down to interpretation its certainly not black and white...
I do know that if your angry with one you should be angry with all...maybe more so with those who have zero excuse just went for a jolly...

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

It's only the right wing sympathisers that are making this political.

The bottom line is that this is a choice between right or wrong. The rules were there, no unnecessary travel, no moving to second homes, people with symptoms should stay at home and self isolate, etc. He broke those rules and undermined public confidence and, as a senior advisor, he simply has to go.

If he had said "I made a mistake, I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the guidance and accept responsibility" he might have got away with it but anyone trying to justify what is clearly wrong just has to go. Whatever the political views.

Boris needs to be careful how long he lets this go on because much longer and he'll have some more difficult questions to answer.

He's no longer up against Corbyn who was a buffoon, Keir Starmer is methodical and a man for detail and PMs questions will be pretty difficult for Boris if he hasn't sorted this by then.

Rightwing sympathisers the whole political landscape has changed in the UK as political parties have moved more to the left. Now anyone who doesn’t agree with Momentum is pigeonholed as Far Right, Extreme Right or even (by the retards who walk amongst us) Facist. Strangely the BBC never call anyone extreme left, go figure. The difference in media coverage between Cummings and Kinnock proves it’s political and driven by those real fascists who identify as Leftwing.

Are you seriously comparing the Kinnock visit with what Cummings did

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-03- ... -birthday/

No travelling with sick wife, no travelling about sightseeing once at destination, a visit of hours rather than weeks with no contact with others.

Kinnock was wrong and police commented on it and did not take it further. Cummings however .......................

So elected MP breaks guidelines but it’s ok because he didn’t break them as much as Cummings. The Scottish Tory who resigned “on principal Bwhahahahaha “ travelled from the North of Scotland to Westminster because he claims his Internet was only adequate and Gravy veined clown SNP Leader Blackford also travels back and forth between London and Edinburgh but that’s ok because MPs are frontline workers. I’ve said several times Cummings should resign but this really shows scum like the BBC up for what they really are. Leftwing blinkered vindictive parasites, who thinkif Cummings goes Brexit will e delayed and ultimately stopped.

You lost the Brexit battle,you lost the election ,yes he should be sacked if he broke the rules,but fook me this left wing agenda still can't accept they lost big time ,there have been loads of people who have broken the rules from day one and still are ,and these are the same people now being so hypocritical ,all those reporters around Cummings outside his house broke the rules haven't they ,no 2 meter distance,and gathering in a crowd ,they should be sacked then as well to make it fair .

It's only the right wing sympathisers that are making this political.

The bottom line is that this is a choice between right or wrong. The rules were there, no unnecessary travel, no moving to second homes, people with symptoms should stay at home and self isolate, etc. He broke those rules and undermined public confidence and, as a senior advisor, he simply has to go.

If he had said "I made a mistake, I'm sorry, I misinterpreted the guidance and accept responsibility" he might have got away with it but anyone trying to justify what is clearly wrong just has to go. Whatever the political views.

Boris needs to be careful how long he lets this go on because much longer and he'll have some more difficult questions to answer.

He's no longer up against Corbyn who was a buffoon, Keir Starmer is methodical and a man for detail and PMs questions will be pretty difficult for Boris if he hasn't sorted this by then.

Rightwing sympathisers the whole political landscape has changed in the UK as political parties have moved more to the left. Now anyone who doesn’t agree with Momentum is pigeonholed as Far Right, Extreme Right or even (by the retards who walk amongst us) Facist. Strangely the BBC never call anyone extreme left, go figure. The difference in media coverage between Cummings and Kinnock proves it’s political and driven by those real fascists who identify as Leftwing.

Are you seriously comparing the Kinnock visit with what Cummings did

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2020-03- ... -birthday/

No travelling with sick wife, no travelling about sightseeing once at destination, a visit of hours rather than weeks with no contact with others.

Kinnock was wrong and police commented on it and did not take it further. Cummings however .......................

So elected MP breaks guidelines but it’s ok because he didn’t break them as much as Cummings. The Scottish Tory who resigned “on principal Bwhahahahaha “ travelled from the North of Scotland to Westminster because he claims his Internet was only adequate and Gravy veined clown SNP Leader Blackford also travels back and forth between London and Edinburgh but that’s ok because MPs are frontline workers. I’ve said several times Cummings should resign but this really shows scum like the BBC up for what they really are. Leftwing blinkered vindictive parasites, who thinkif Cummings goes Brexit will e delayed and ultimately stopped.

I think its inevitable that one way or another he will be gone..
the hounds have the scent of blood..

Public will not follow rules after Cummings lockdown breach, says Tory MP

The public will be less willing to go back into lockdown or social distance if the R-rate goes up because of Dominic Cummings’ rule breach, according to Simon Hoare, Conservative MP for North Dorset.

Mr Hoare said that if his email inbox is anything to go by, the general public do not understand the PM's defence of his aide.

Mr Johnson responded that he does not think it is true that the British people will respond to the next phases in that way.

He added: “Suppose for a second that you were right, which I don’t accept, all the more reason now for us to be consistent and clear in our message.”

Is this story still rumbling on?

The longer the left wing anti Tory vendetta goes on the more pitiable and bitter they are looking.

And it’s only going to make Johnson’s stance more trenchant. And quite right he is to maintain his position.

And as for those Tory MPs who simply do not like Cummings, who are behaving petulantly.

There are more important matters for the Government to get on with rather than wasting time on this witch-hunt.