Just Like To Say Its Not Up To The NHS To Supply

There’s a few people here getting muddled about this. Residential care homes cater for social care needs not heath needs. If PPE is considered a health need, it is met by the NHS and free at the point of delivery. If a person is in a nursing home, the NHS pays the part of their care which is nursing related and though it might look like the home provides equipment, it’s really the NHS

Who will make the UK's PPE kit?
Analysis


Faisal Islam

BBC Economics Editor

The sense from the health secretary was that the mass of immediate PPE supplies the UK now needs is likely to come mainly from abroad.

Twice he singled out China, and the work diplomats are doing to secure such supplies. But work is also going on to co-ordinate the deluge of offers from domestic British manufacturers who have offered PPE, with the help of outside consultants.

Mr Hancock did seem to stress that some of those offers were not credible. Certainly there are very specific standards for use in healthcare, and some manufacturers won’t be able to manufacture at the scale required. And part of the problem is not the ability to manufacture, but the dwindling supply of specialist materials with which to make the kit.

But such is the sheer mass of PPE required to manage this ongoing crisis - “billions of items per month” Mr Hancock acknowledged - that domestic manufacturing will have now to play a big part.

The Question i would ask is - Why has this taken over a month to sort out ??

Companies over here willing to help - Then going on about China - Really after what they have done to Spain -

Faulty Chinese medical equipment hampers Spanish Covid-19 battle

Spain is counting the cost of faulty medical equipment purchased from Chinese companies, including face masks and Covid-19 rapid test kits, as the country battles against Europe’s largest coronavirus crisis with more than 200,000 confirmed cases.

Spain’s health authorities have been forced to withdraw hundreds of thousands of badly made face masks from hospitals and care homes around the country, after a batch of 900,000 masks were found not to offer adequate protection for professional use.

The batch of masks, supplied by a Chinese company called Garry Galaxy, was distributed to regional health authorities during the Easter week. In the region of Murcia alone, more than 1,000 health workers have been placed under quarantine as a precaution after using the masks.

Do your Homework Mr Hancock - May be give them a ring and see if you can get some more test kits !!!

You might hit your target of 100,000 test a day by the end of APRIL - as promised ... Tick Tock Tick Tock

I think the whole “care system” should be supported whether nhs or private as this is unpresidented imagine working or staying in a care home with limited Ppe. The tories were too slow to lock everyone down we started at the same time as Germany, we have weak leadership who bullshit us all the time, they even set up fake nhs staff twitter accounts and said great things about the government response. It’s a difficult situation but we’ve been too slow to react unlike Germany and others.

Were the Tories too slow in locking down the country? That is your opinion and not the highly qualified doctors and scientists in this country, many of whom still think it is not the right approach to this kind of situation.

Why aren't you advising the government about the right steps to take as you seem to have the answers?
I am glad it is not me having to take these decisions especially when narrow minded people who think they know best, are looking for any excuse to blame them for everything. Nobody in the world knows the correct way to deal with this. It will take years to sort out.

Why didn't the socialist run Welsh Assembly (Labour party) and Scotland (SNP) shut down the country earlier?
Why is there insufficient PPE in Wales and Scotland, both socialist run for over 20 years?

Why has the Welsh Assembly abandoned its very modest target of 8000 tests per day, after only achieving 10% (1 in 10) of that quoted target?

The Welsh Government didn't have a modest target. You said 8,000....it was actually 9,000 a day which in uk equivalent terms is around 180,000 a day as Wales's population is about 5% of UK population. But they set that target based upon a deal they had in writing with Roche, who subsequently reneged on the deal and offered the tests to The UK government. Also Welsh Government has been working with UK and other devolved governments on testing and set their targets based on what the UK government told them to expect as a population proportion of the UK share. Looks like the UK government were overly optimistic on testing as they have been on PPE. Wales is ahead of England per head of population on testing and hasn't run out of PPE unlike many areas of England. The UK government is shit and spouts lies every day. Also, the number of deaths per head of population is lower in Wales than it is in England, despite the fact Wales has an older and sicker population. Stop talking Wales down just because you clearly dislike socialists.

New twist in UK row over EU equipment scheme

There has been another development in the row over why the UK initially refused an invitation from the EU to join a scheme to obtain medical equipment to fight the coronavirus.

The government faced criticism last month for not taking part in the scheme. Ministers denied claims that anti-EU sentiment played any role in the decision and instead blamed a "communication confusion".

But earlier today the foreign office's top civil servant, Sir Simon McDonald, told MPs that ministers had been briefed on the scheme but took a "political decision" not to take part (you can watch the clip above).

Now - a few hours after Downing Street suggested Sir Simon had "misspoken" - the civil servant has issued a retraction. Sir Simon said his comments were wrong and had been made "due to a misunderstanding".

Health Secretary Matt Hancock earlier on Friday said the UK had actually now joined the scheme but it had "yet to deliver a single item" of equipment.

The UK has left the European Union but is in a transition period during which it is able to participate in such schemes.

New twist in UK row over EU equipment scheme

There has been another development in the row over why the UK initially refused an invitation from the EU to join a scheme to obtain medical equipment to fight the coronavirus.

The government faced criticism last month for not taking part in the scheme. Ministers denied claims that anti-EU sentiment played any role in the decision and instead blamed a "communication confusion".

But earlier today the foreign office's top civil servant, Sir Simon McDonald, told MPs that ministers had been briefed on the scheme but took a "political decision" not to take part (you can watch the clip above).

Now - a few hours after Downing Street suggested Sir Simon had "misspoken" - the civil servant has issued a retraction. Sir Simon said his comments were wrong and had been made "due to a misunderstanding".

Health Secretary Matt Hancock earlier on Friday said the UK had actually now joined the scheme but it had "yet to deliver a single item" of equipment.

The UK has left the European Union but is in a transition period during which it is able to participate in such schemes.

Would this be the same scheme that has so far failed to deliver any PPE ?

One thing to come from this - in future we should always look for UK manufactured PPE and award those contracts to UK companies, based in the UK, paying UK tax.

I will reply later as this will take more than a couple sentences and I'm busy at the moment.I am also permanently signed in but that does not mean I'm looking at this 24/7.

Martin, could only expect the usual from you, mouth of at everyone disappear for days and come back and do it again on other peoples topics.

You use to just slate the forum and try and ruin it.

You wont be missed as youve done in the past,

Reports PPE flight was only half-full

The PPE procurement from Turkey has been farcical.

First of all the Government promised it would arrive Sunday.

The RAF plane carrying the supplies eventually arrived two days later, but it is understood that only half of the equipment was on the flight.

Sky News quoted Turkey's ambassador to the UK, Umit Yalcin, who said: "As far as I understand there have been problems with the private supplier company."

Health Minister Helen Whately was asked directly on the BBC's Today programme if the flight was only half-full.

She did not answer the question, insisting the important thing was that PPE had landed in the UK.