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Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:24 am

Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:We dont buy our season tickets because we were promised players or money spent !!! We buy them because this is our team through thick and thin. We support them no matter what!!!!


You dont !
A lot of others do and when they spend their hard earned money they expect to be competitive when told they will be "giving it a go"
I would rather them just say signings will be low level but they cant because people wouldnt buy tickets .


What did you expect this transfer window? The club owner has made his intentions clear. The manager told us there was no money to spend. The transfer window has gone exactly as many fans expected.



Steve I've given up on having discussion about transfer window with him! He doesn't grasp fact that we cant dictate who signs for us, plus we were never going to do much if any business in window as its wrong time bit like lots clubs either didn't do anything or brought in odd player to cover injuries? We did minimal iin transfers this window nothing wrong in that.... its summer we need the players 6/8 of them at better prices and more importantly better choice. :old:

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:04 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:We dont buy our season tickets because we were promised players or money spent !!! We buy them because this is our team through thick and thin. We support them no matter what!!!!


You dont !
A lot of others do and when they spend their hard earned money they expect to be competitive when told they will be "giving it a go"
I would rather them just say signings will be low level but they cant because people wouldnt buy tickets .


What did you expect this transfer window? The club owner has made his intentions clear. The manager told us there was no money to spend. The transfer window has gone exactly as many fans expected.



Steve I've given up on having discussion about transfer window with him! He doesn't grasp fact that we cant dictate who signs for us, plus we were never going to do much if any business in window as its wrong time bit like lots clubs either didn't do anything or brought in odd player to cover injuries? We did minimal iin transfers this window nothing wrong in that.... its summer we need the players 6/8 of them at better prices and more importantly better choice. :old:


I agree with you Allan. We knew before the transfer window even opened that there was very little money available. The manager had made that clear enough. Even if the funds were there, the January window is notoriously difficult as far as signing any real quality is concerned. Unlike football manager on X Box, players available have to suit the positions where we need to strengthen, have to suit our style of play,and the player has to choose us over other clubs. You can bet that any players with genuine quality will be on the radar of plenty of clubs, and they are not all desperate to come to Cardiff. We are not the only club who have had a quiet transfer window.

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:52 pm

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Steve Zodiak wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:We dont buy our season tickets because we were promised players or money spent !!! We buy them because this is our team through thick and thin. We support them no matter what!!!!


You dont !
A lot of others do and when they spend their hard earned money they expect to be competitive when told they will be "giving it a go"
I would rather them just say signings will be low level but they cant because people wouldnt buy tickets .


What did you expect this transfer window? The club owner has made his intentions clear. The manager told us there was no money to spend. The transfer window has gone exactly as many fans expected.



Steve I've given up on having discussion about transfer window with him! He doesn't grasp fact that we cant dictate who signs for us, plus we were never going to do much if any business in window as its wrong time bit like lots clubs either didn't do anything or brought in odd player to cover injuries? We did minimal iin transfers this window nothing wrong in that.... its summer we need the players 6/8 of them at better prices and more importantly better choice. :old:


I agree with you Allan. We knew before the transfer window even opened that there was very little money available. The manager had made that clear enough. Even if the funds were there, the January window is notoriously difficult as far as signing any real quality is concerned. Unlike football manager on X Box, players available have to suit the positions where we need to strengthen, have to suit our style of play,and the player has to choose us over other clubs. You can bet that any players with genuine quality will be on the radar of plenty of clubs, and they are not all desperate to come to Cardiff. We are not the only club who have had a quiet transfer window.



No even a couple premiership clubs didnt sign players...if at top end of table and going for top 6 and we had a good enough squad that needed a boost to stay top people have a point, spend bit money to go extra mile! But we do not have a good overall squad we need 6/8 player by popular consensus and cannot use January to buy those players,
playoffs is doubtful so why waste money that can be spent in summer when more cost effective and appropriate players are available...

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:37 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:We dont buy our season tickets because we were promised players or money spent !!! We buy them because this is our team through thick and thin. We support them no matter what!!!!


You dont !
A lot of others do and when they spend their hard earned money they expect to be competitive when told they will be "giving it a go"
I would rather them just say signings will be low level but they cant because people wouldnt buy tickets .


What did you expect this transfer window? The club owner has made his intentions clear. The manager told us there was no money to spend. The transfer window has gone exactly as many fans expected.



Steve I've given up on having discussion about transfer window with him! He doesn't grasp fact that we cant dictate who signs for us, plus we were never going to do much if any business in window as its wrong time bit like lots clubs either didn't do anything or brought in odd player to cover injuries? We did minimal iin transfers this window nothing wrong in that.... its summer we need the players 6/8 of them at better prices and more importantly better choice. :old:


Of course you can dictate who signs for you. Cardiff are a lot bigger of a attraction than you both give them credit for. Both living in the dark ages we are not little old cardiff from Ninian park anymore we are a club who have been in the premier league twice in the last 5 seasons. Being happy to have mediocre managers and players even given the fact we have had a income of over £170million in the last 18 months is the same old mentality that kept us back for years.
Dalman himself said we would give it a proper go this season not me. They have not been true to there word and should be rightfully asked questions of.

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:51 pm

thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:We dont buy our season tickets because we were promised players or money spent !!! We buy them because this is our team through thick and thin. We support them no matter what!!!!


You dont !
A lot of others do and when they spend their hard earned money they expect to be competitive when told they will be "giving it a go"
I would rather them just say signings will be low level but they cant because people wouldnt buy tickets .


What did you expect this transfer window? The club owner has made his intentions clear. The manager told us there was no money to spend. The transfer window has gone exactly as many fans expected.



Steve I've given up on having discussion about transfer window with him! He doesn't grasp fact that we cant dictate who signs for us, plus we were never going to do much if any business in window as its wrong time bit like lots clubs either didn't do anything or brought in odd player to cover injuries? We did minimal iin transfers this window nothing wrong in that.... its summer we need the players 6/8 of them at better prices and more importantly better choice. :old:


Of course you can dictate who signs for you. Cardiff are a lot bigger of a attraction than you both give them credit for. Both living in the dark ages we are not little old cardiff from Ninian park anymore we are a club who have been in the premier league twice in the last 5 seasons. Being happy to have mediocre managers and players even given the fact we have had a income of over £170million in the last 18 months is the same old mentality that kept us back for years.
Dalman himself said we would give it a proper go this season not me. They have not been true to there word and should be rightfully asked questions of.


You can't possibly be gullible enough not to know that Dalman has said exactly the sort of thing you would expect to hear from every person in his position at every club in the country.. You are not a new fan and must have heard this sort of comment umpteen time in the past. Of course he is going to say the club will give it a proper go. I should think every club has said something along similar lines. He is doing his job. He is promoting the club to the best of his ability and maximising ticket sales. It's a business and this is just a form of advertising. The person controlling the cash is the one to pay special attention to. Ultimately, it is what he decides that counts.

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:06 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:We dont buy our season tickets because we were promised players or money spent !!! We buy them because this is our team through thick and thin. We support them no matter what!!!!


You dont !
A lot of others do and when they spend their hard earned money they expect to be competitive when told they will be "giving it a go"
I would rather them just say signings will be low level but they cant because people wouldnt buy tickets .


What did you expect this transfer window? The club owner has made his intentions clear. The manager told us there was no money to spend. The transfer window has gone exactly as many fans expected.



Steve I've given up on having discussion about transfer window with him! He doesn't grasp fact that we cant dictate who signs for us, plus we were never going to do much if any business in window as its wrong time bit like lots clubs either didn't do anything or brought in odd player to cover injuries? We did minimal iin transfers this window nothing wrong in that.... its summer we need the players 6/8 of them at better prices and more importantly better choice. :old:


Of course you can dictate who signs for you. Cardiff are a lot bigger of a attraction than you both give them credit for. Both living in the dark ages we are not little old cardiff from Ninian park anymore we are a club who have been in the premier league twice in the last 5 seasons. Being happy to have mediocre managers and players even given the fact we have had a income of over £170million in the last 18 months is the same old mentality that kept us back for years.
Dalman himself said we would give it a proper go this season not me. They have not been true to there word and should be rightfully asked questions of.


You can't possibly be gullible enough not to know that Dalman has said exactly the sort of thing you would expect to hear from every person in his position at every club in the country.. You are not a new fan and must have heard this sort of comment umpteen time in the past. Of course he is going to say the club will give it a proper go. I should think every club has said something along similar lines. He is doing his job. He is promoting the club to the best of his ability and maximising ticket sales. It's a business and this is just a form of advertising. The person controlling the cash is the one to pay special attention to. Ultimately, it is what he decides that counts.


And surely you cant be gullible enough to believe the best a club like us can do is a 20 year old player who has never played a professional game in his life?

It was a shocking window we had a great chance of the play offs with very little outlay. We did pretty much nothing to address the weaknesses in the squad

I dont buy the it's hard in january excuse. Players were available that would help us. We made apparent bids that were too low knowing they would get rejected so they could be seen to be trying

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:21 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:We dont buy our season tickets because we were promised players or money spent !!! We buy them because this is our team through thick and thin. We support them no matter what!!!!


You dont !
A lot of others do and when they spend their hard earned money they expect to be competitive when told they will be "giving it a go"
I would rather them just say signings will be low level but they cant because people wouldnt buy tickets .


What did you expect this transfer window? The club owner has made his intentions clear. The manager told us there was no money to spend. The transfer window has gone exactly as many fans expected.



Steve I've given up on having discussion about transfer window with him! He doesn't grasp fact that we cant dictate who signs for us, plus we were never going to do much if any business in window as its wrong time bit like lots clubs either didn't do anything or brought in odd player to cover injuries? We did minimal iin transfers this window nothing wrong in that.... its summer we need the players 6/8 of them at better prices and more importantly better choice. :old:


Of course you can dictate who signs for you. Cardiff are a lot bigger of a attraction than you both give them credit for. Both living in the dark ages we are not little old cardiff from Ninian park anymore we are a club who have been in the premier league twice in the last 5 seasons. Being happy to have mediocre managers and players even given the fact we have had a income of over £170million in the last 18 months is the same old mentality that kept us back for years.
Dalman himself said we would give it a proper go this season not me. They have not been true to there word and should be rightfully asked questions of.


You can't possibly be gullible enough not to know that Dalman has said exactly the sort of thing you would expect to hear from every person in his position at every club in the country.. You are not a new fan and must have heard this sort of comment umpteen time in the past. Of course he is going to say the club will give it a proper go. I should think every club has said something along similar lines. He is doing his job. He is promoting the club to the best of his ability and maximising ticket sales. It's a business and this is just a form of advertising. The person controlling the cash is the one to pay special attention to. Ultimately, it is what he decides that counts.


And surely you cant be gullible enough to believe the best a club like us can do is a 20 year old player who has never played a professional game in his life?

It was a shocking window we had a great chance of the play offs with very little outlay. We did pretty much nothing to address the weaknesses in the squad

I dont buy the it's hard in january excuse. Players were available that would help us. We made apparent bids that were too low knowing they would get rejected so they could be seen to be trying


It's because I am not gullible that the business conducted in the transfer window went almost exactly as I believed it would. This forum is constantly full of comments about the fact we have businessmen rather than football men making the decisions. The comments made by Dalman which it appears you took as gospel, are the sort of comments we hear every business say in order to satisfy their customers and keep them on board. However, they were not the comments made by the man who counts, and our manager had made it perfectly clear that there was little money available this January. I would hardly have expected Dalman to come out and say we are not going to give it much of a go this season, and will just tread water while ensuring we establish ourselves in this division and avoid a second successive drop. I have said a number of times we know where we will be playing next season. I'm afraid anyone who thought we were going to be bringing in much quality in January was always likely to be disappointed.

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:34 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:We dont buy our season tickets because we were promised players or money spent !!! We buy them because this is our team through thick and thin. We support them no matter what!!!!


You dont !
A lot of others do and when they spend their hard earned money they expect to be competitive when told they will be "giving it a go"
I would rather them just say signings will be low level but they cant because people wouldnt buy tickets .


What did you expect this transfer window? The club owner has made his intentions clear. The manager told us there was no money to spend. The transfer window has gone exactly as many fans expected.



Steve I've given up on having discussion about transfer window with him! He doesn't grasp fact that we cant dictate who signs for us, plus we were never going to do much if any business in window as its wrong time bit like lots clubs either didn't do anything or brought in odd player to cover injuries? We did minimal iin transfers this window nothing wrong in that.... its summer we need the players 6/8 of them at better prices and more importantly better choice. :old:


Of course you can dictate who signs for you. Cardiff are a lot bigger of a attraction than you both give them credit for. Both living in the dark ages we are not little old cardiff from Ninian park anymore we are a club who have been in the premier league twice in the last 5 seasons. Being happy to have mediocre managers and players even given the fact we have had a income of over £170million in the last 18 months is the same old mentality that kept us back for years.
Dalman himself said we would give it a proper go this season not me. They have not been true to there word and should be rightfully asked questions of.


You can't possibly be gullible enough not to know that Dalman has said exactly the sort of thing you would expect to hear from every person in his position at every club in the country.. You are not a new fan and must have heard this sort of comment umpteen time in the past. Of course he is going to say the club will give it a proper go. I should think every club has said something along similar lines. He is doing his job. He is promoting the club to the best of his ability and maximising ticket sales. It's a business and this is just a form of advertising. The person controlling the cash is the one to pay special attention to. Ultimately, it is what he decides that counts.


And surely you cant be gullible enough to believe the best a club like us can do is a 20 year old player who has never played a professional game in his life?

It was a shocking window we had a great chance of the play offs with very little outlay. We did pretty much nothing to address the weaknesses in the squad

I dont buy the it's hard in january excuse. Players were available that would help us. We made apparent bids that were too low knowing they would get rejected so they could be seen to be trying



Absolute load of bollocks!!! Why would the club make low bids to be knocked back just to please us fans into thinking they were trying. Never heard such crap in my life!!!!

They bid or dont bid for who they want. It's not up to us fans. Why didn't they tell us they tried to sign Mourinho or Guardiola but couldn't get them so we settled for Harris. Utter horse shit

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:49 pm

Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:We dont buy our season tickets because we were promised players or money spent !!! We buy them because this is our team through thick and thin. We support them no matter what!!!!


You dont !
A lot of others do and when they spend their hard earned money they expect to be competitive when told they will be "giving it a go"
I would rather them just say signings will be low level but they cant because people wouldnt buy tickets .


What did you expect this transfer window? The club owner has made his intentions clear. The manager told us there was no money to spend. The transfer window has gone exactly as many fans expected.



Steve I've given up on having discussion about transfer window with him! He doesn't grasp fact that we cant dictate who signs for us, plus we were never going to do much if any business in window as its wrong time bit like lots clubs either didn't do anything or brought in odd player to cover injuries? We did minimal iin transfers this window nothing wrong in that.... its summer we need the players 6/8 of them at better prices and more importantly better choice. :old:


Of course you can dictate who signs for you. Cardiff are a lot bigger of a attraction than you both give them credit for. Both living in the dark ages we are not little old cardiff from Ninian park anymore we are a club who have been in the premier league twice in the last 5 seasons. Being happy to have mediocre managers and players even given the fact we have had a income of over £170million in the last 18 months is the same old mentality that kept us back for years.
Dalman himself said we would give it a proper go this season not me. They have not been true to there word and should be rightfully asked questions of.


You can't possibly be gullible enough not to know that Dalman has said exactly the sort of thing you would expect to hear from every person in his position at every club in the country.. You are not a new fan and must have heard this sort of comment umpteen time in the past. Of course he is going to say the club will give it a proper go. I should think every club has said something along similar lines. He is doing his job. He is promoting the club to the best of his ability and maximising ticket sales. It's a business and this is just a form of advertising. The person controlling the cash is the one to pay special attention to. Ultimately, it is what he decides that counts.


And surely you cant be gullible enough to believe the best a club like us can do is a 20 year old player who has never played a professional game in his life?

It was a shocking window we had a great chance of the play offs with very little outlay. We did pretty much nothing to address the weaknesses in the squad

I dont buy the it's hard in january excuse. Players were available that would help us. We made apparent bids that were too low knowing they would get rejected so they could be seen to be trying



Absolute load of bollocks!!! Why would the club make low bids to be knocked back just to please us fans into thinking they were trying. Never heard such crap in my life!!!!

They bid or dont bid for who they want. It's not up to us fans. Why didn't they tell us they tried to sign Mourinho or Guardiola but couldn't get them so we settled for Harris. Utter horse shit


So the apparent bids we were making for Camarasa and Moore were serious were they ?
There was not a chance in hell Wigan would except £2mill and the club knew it like everyone else. Why even bother unless it was to make us look like we were trying. There are plenty of strikers available for that type of money but we signed or went for nobody after that. We also had no chance of getting Camarasa to drop a division but it looked great for the fans didnt it.

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:01 pm

thomasblue wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:We dont buy our season tickets because we were promised players or money spent !!! We buy them because this is our team through thick and thin. We support them no matter what!!!!


You dont !
A lot of others do and when they spend their hard earned money they expect to be competitive when told they will be "giving it a go"
I would rather them just say signings will be low level but they cant because people wouldnt buy tickets .


What did you expect this transfer window? The club owner has made his intentions clear. The manager told us there was no money to spend. The transfer window has gone exactly as many fans expected.



Steve I've given up on having discussion about transfer window with him! He doesn't grasp fact that we cant dictate who signs for us, plus we were never going to do much if any business in window as its wrong time bit like lots clubs either didn't do anything or brought in odd player to cover injuries? We did minimal iin transfers this window nothing wrong in that.... its summer we need the players 6/8 of them at better prices and more importantly better choice. :old:


Of course you can dictate who signs for you. Cardiff are a lot bigger of a attraction than you both give them credit for. Both living in the dark ages we are not little old cardiff from Ninian park anymore we are a club who have been in the premier league twice in the last 5 seasons. Being happy to have mediocre managers and players even given the fact we have had a income of over £170million in the last 18 months is the same old mentality that kept us back for years.
Dalman himself said we would give it a proper go this season not me. They have not been true to there word and should be rightfully asked questions of.


You can't possibly be gullible enough not to know that Dalman has said exactly the sort of thing you would expect to hear from every person in his position at every club in the country.. You are not a new fan and must have heard this sort of comment umpteen time in the past. Of course he is going to say the club will give it a proper go. I should think every club has said something along similar lines. He is doing his job. He is promoting the club to the best of his ability and maximising ticket sales. It's a business and this is just a form of advertising. The person controlling the cash is the one to pay special attention to. Ultimately, it is what he decides that counts.


And surely you cant be gullible enough to believe the best a club like us can do is a 20 year old player who has never played a professional game in his life?

It was a shocking window we had a great chance of the play offs with very little outlay. We did pretty much nothing to address the weaknesses in the squad

I dont buy the it's hard in january excuse. Players were available that would help us. We made apparent bids that were too low knowing they would get rejected so they could be seen to be trying



Absolute load of bollocks!!! Why would the club make low bids to be knocked back just to please us fans into thinking they were trying. Never heard such crap in my life!!!!

They bid or dont bid for who they want. It's not up to us fans. Why didn't they tell us they tried to sign Mourinho or Guardiola but couldn't get them so we settled for Harris. Utter horse shit


So the apparent bids we were making for Camarasa and Moore were serious were they ?
There was not a chance in hell Wigan would except £2mill and the club knew it like everyone else. Why even bother unless it was to make us look like we were trying. There are plenty of strikers available for that type of money but we signed or went for nobody after that. We also had no chance of getting Camarasa to drop a division but it looked great for the fans didnt it.


As a matter of interest who said we made these bids. Genuine question, I just tend to take all transfer rumours with a pinch of salt and while I recall various names being thrown into the hat, I never actually read any of the in depth reports so honestly don't know if this actually was from the club or just on-line rumours.

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:18 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
Bambasbestbuddy22 wrote:We dont buy our season tickets because we were promised players or money spent !!! We buy them because this is our team through thick and thin. We support them no matter what!!!!


You dont !
A lot of others do and when they spend their hard earned money they expect to be competitive when told they will be "giving it a go"
I would rather them just say signings will be low level but they cant because people wouldnt buy tickets .


What did you expect this transfer window? The club owner has made his intentions clear. The manager told us there was no money to spend. The transfer window has gone exactly as many fans expected.



Steve I've given up on having discussion about transfer window with him! He doesn't grasp fact that we cant dictate who signs for us, plus we were never going to do much if any business in window as its wrong time bit like lots clubs either didn't do anything or brought in odd player to cover injuries? We did minimal iin transfers this window nothing wrong in that.... its summer we need the players 6/8 of them at better prices and more importantly better choice. :old:


Of course you can dictate who signs for you. Cardiff are a lot bigger of a attraction than you both give them credit for. Both living in the dark ages we are not little old cardiff from Ninian park anymore we are a club who have been in the premier league twice in the last 5 seasons. Being happy to have mediocre managers and players even given the fact we have had a income of over £170million in the last 18 months is the same old mentality that kept us back for years.
Dalman himself said we would give it a proper go this season not me. They have not been true to there word and should be rightfully asked questions of.


You can't possibly be gullible enough not to know that Dalman has said exactly the sort of thing you would expect to hear from every person in his position at every club in the country.. You are not a new fan and must have heard this sort of comment umpteen time in the past. Of course he is going to say the club will give it a proper go. I should think every club has said something along similar lines. He is doing his job. He is promoting the club to the best of his ability and maximising ticket sales. It's a business and this is just a form of advertising. The person controlling the cash is the one to pay special attention to. Ultimately, it is what he decides that counts.


And surely you cant be gullible enough to believe the best a club like us can do is a 20 year old player who has never played a professional game in his life?

It was a shocking window we had a great chance of the play offs with very little outlay. We did pretty much nothing to address the weaknesses in the squad

I dont buy the it's hard in january excuse. Players were available that would help us. We made apparent bids that were too low knowing they would get rejected so they could be seen to be trying



Absolute load of bollocks!!! Why would the club make low bids to be knocked back just to please us fans into thinking they were trying. Never heard such crap in my life!!!!

They bid or dont bid for who they want. It's not up to us fans. Why didn't they tell us they tried to sign Mourinho or Guardiola but couldn't get them so we settled for Harris. Utter horse shit


So the apparent bids we were making for Camarasa and Moore were serious were they ?
There was not a chance in hell Wigan would except £2mill and the club knew it like everyone else. Why even bother unless it was to make us look like we were trying. There are plenty of strikers available for that type of money but we signed or went for nobody after that. We also had no chance of getting Camarasa to drop a division but it looked great for the fans didnt it.


As a matter of interest who said we made these bids. Genuine question, I just tend to take all transfer rumours with a pinch of salt and while I recall various names being thrown into the hat, I never actually read any of the in depth reports so honestly don't know if this actually was from the club or just on-line rumours.



A striker available in January is like gold dust and if we had bid and 2m wasn't successful others would've had go buying him but no one did well put it this way watched ssn transfer and never saw him mentioned at all..so to me that means he wasn't for sale..as for camerasa we did enquire but cost and deal was not acceptable to us! Good player why wasn't he snapped up by other efl club ? Maybe for reason just stated..

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:56 pm

Steve kodiak

Wigans manager confirmed they had rejected the bid

Camarasa was all reports but like I said was probably talk to look good
For the fans.

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:06 pm

thomasblue wrote:Steve kodiak

Wigans manager confirmed they had rejected the bid

Camarasa was all reports but like I said was probably talk to look good
For the fans.


Why didn't either player go elsewhere in England ?

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:11 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Steve kodiak

Wigans manager confirmed they had rejected the bid

Camarasa was all reports but like I said was probably talk to look good
For the fans.


Why didn't either player go elsewhere in England ?


Because nobody was stupid enough to match Wigans valuation and Camarasa chose to go back to spain and la liga.

Doesnt mean we couldn't have signed him. And I wouldnt pay £2mill for him anyway. Hes shit

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:23 pm

thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Steve kodiak

Wigans manager confirmed they had rejected the bid

Camarasa was all reports but like I said was probably talk to look good
For the fans.


Why didn't either player go elsewhere in England ?


Because nobody was stupid enough to match Wigans valuation and Camarasa chose to go back to spain and la liga.

Doesnt mean we couldn't have signed him. And I wouldnt pay £2mill for him anyway. Hes shit



Thats a contradictory statement? You saying one minute should be getting him then saying to expensive and crap? And camerasa didn't want come here which I have consistently told you its about players wanting to come here but you wouldn't have it... January is all about topping up squads if required due to injuries or are willing to pay over the odds for a striker ! We don't need a striker that's for sure.. and probably no midfielder available at right price or quality required..

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:38 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Steve kodiak

Wigans manager confirmed they had rejected the bid

Camarasa was all reports but like I said was probably talk to look good
For the fans.


Why didn't either player go elsewhere in England ?


Because nobody was stupid enough to match Wigans valuation and Camarasa chose to go back to spain and la liga.

Doesnt mean we couldn't have signed him. And I wouldnt pay £2mill for him anyway. Hes shit



Thats a contradictory statement? You saying one minute should be getting him then saying to expensive and crap? And camerasa didn't want come here which I have consistently told you its about players wanting to come here but you wouldn't have it... January is all about topping up squads if required due to injuries or are willing to pay over the odds for a striker ! We don't need a striker that's for sure.. and probably no midfielder available at right price or quality required..


We dont need a striker ?

We have Ward who is constantly injured and league 1 standard at best

Vassell is the hide and seek champion of the world

Glatzel is a carthorse and the biggest waste of money since Cornelius.

The only other option is a converted right back .

But no we dont need a striker at all

I never said we should be getting him hes no better than Madine was. We would have overpaid at £2mill. But it begs the question if we had that money available why didnt we get anyone. There are plenty of strikers in that price range who would jump at the chance to play here. Dont give time the same old bollocks of nobody wants to come that's just a cop out , you've obviously got a very low opinion of the club you supposedly support. We didnt try its blatently obvious.

Camarasa is a different matter, nobody can blame him for choosing la-liga over the championship.

There are always players available you just have to have the contacts but it's quite obvious that Harris doesnt.
Swansea only got Brewster because the manager knew him from England set up and the player said that himself. They have even less money than us so how do they get good players ? Or are they more attractive

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:57 pm

thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Steve kodiak

Wigans manager confirmed they had rejected the bid

Camarasa was all reports but like I said was probably talk to look good
For the fans.


Why didn't either player go elsewhere in England ?


Because nobody was stupid enough to match Wigans valuation and Camarasa chose to go back to spain and la liga.

Doesnt mean we couldn't have signed him. And I wouldnt pay £2mill for him anyway. Hes shit



Thats a contradictory statement? You saying one minute should be getting him then saying to expensive and crap? And camerasa didn't want come here which I have consistently told you its about players wanting to come here but you wouldn't have it... January is all about topping up squads if required due to injuries or are willing to pay over the odds for a striker ! We don't need a striker that's for sure.. and probably no midfielder available at right price or quality required..


We dont need a striker ?

We have Ward who is constantly injured and league 1 standard at best

Vassell is the hide and seek champion of the world

Glatzel is a carthorse and the biggest waste of money since Cornelius.

The only other option is a converted right back .

But no we dont need a striker at all

I never said we should be getting him hes no better than Madine was. We would have overpaid at £2mill. But it begs the question if we had that money available why didnt we get anyone. There are plenty of strikers in that price range who would jump at the chance to play here. Dont give time the same old bollocks of nobody wants to come that's just a cop out , you've obviously got a very low opinion of the club you supposedly support. We didnt try its blatently obvious.

Camarasa is a different matter, nobody can blame him for choosing la-liga over the championship.

There are always players available you just have to have the contacts but it's quite obvious that Harris doesnt.
Swansea only got Brewster because the manager knew him from England set up and the player said that himself. They have even less money than us so how do they get good players ? Or are they more attractive


If we had the money I suppose we could have signed Zohore. I'm sure that's the sort of signing that would have met with your approval. Our converted right back has scored five time as many goals so far this season as Zohore did in his entire last season with us. Everyone has different opinions, but questionable if a £2m striker will get us any more goals than our converted right back.

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:02 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Steve kodiak

Wigans manager confirmed they had rejected the bid

Camarasa was all reports but like I said was probably talk to look good
For the fans.


Why didn't either player go elsewhere in England ?


Because nobody was stupid enough to match Wigans valuation and Camarasa chose to go back to spain and la liga.

Doesnt mean we couldn't have signed him. And I wouldnt pay £2mill for him anyway. Hes shit



Thats a contradictory statement? You saying one minute should be getting him then saying to expensive and crap? And camerasa didn't want come here which I have consistently told you its about players wanting to come here but you wouldn't have it... January is all about topping up squads if required due to injuries or are willing to pay over the odds for a striker ! We don't need a striker that's for sure.. and probably no midfielder available at right price or quality required..


We dont need a striker ?

We have Ward who is constantly injured and league 1 standard at best

Vassell is the hide and seek champion of the world

Glatzel is a carthorse and the biggest waste of money since Cornelius.

The only other option is a converted right back .

But no we dont need a striker at all

I never said we should be getting him hes no better than Madine was. We would have overpaid at £2mill. But it begs the question if we had that money available why didnt we get anyone. There are plenty of strikers in that price range who would jump at the chance to play here. Dont give time the same old bollocks of nobody wants to come that's just a cop out , you've obviously got a very low opinion of the club you supposedly support. We didnt try its blatently obvious.

Camarasa is a different matter, nobody can blame him for choosing la-liga over the championship.

There are always players available you just have to have the contacts but it's quite obvious that Harris doesnt.
Swansea only got Brewster because the manager knew him from England set up and the player said that himself. They have even less money than us so how do they get good players ? Or are they more attractive


If we had the money I suppose we could have signed Zohore. I'm sure that's the sort of signingr would have met with your approval. Our converted right back has scored five time as many goals so far this season than Zohore did in his entire last season with us. Everyone has different opinions, but questionable if a £2m striker will get us any more goals than our converted right back.


Who mentioned Zahore ?
He was rubbish aswell but at least he was a striker.
We need numbers , at the moment we have 1 fit striker who cant head or shoot and a utility player
What happens if patterson gets injured or sent off ?
Rely on Glatzel all season ?

Nicolas Bendtner is a free agent he would have been a decent signing at this level.

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:13 pm

thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Steve kodiak

Wigans manager confirmed they had rejected the bid

Camarasa was all reports but like I said was probably talk to look good
For the fans.


Why didn't either player go elsewhere in England ?


Because nobody was stupid enough to match Wigans valuation and Camarasa chose to go back to spain and la liga.

Doesnt mean we couldn't have signed him. And I wouldnt pay £2mill for him anyway. Hes shit



Thats a contradictory statement? You saying one minute should be getting him then saying to expensive and crap? And camerasa didn't want come here which I have consistently told you its about players wanting to come here but you wouldn't have it... January is all about topping up squads if required due to injuries or are willing to pay over the odds for a striker ! We don't need a striker that's for sure.. and probably no midfielder available at right price or quality required..


We dont need a striker ?

We have Ward who is constantly injured and league 1 standard at best

Vassell is the hide and seek champion of the world

Glatzel is a carthorse and the biggest waste of money since Cornelius.

The only other option is a converted right back .

But no we dont need a striker at all

I never said we should be getting him hes no better than Madine was. We would have overpaid at £2mill. But it begs the question if we had that money available why didnt we get anyone. There are plenty of strikers in that price range who would jump at the chance to play here. Dont give time the same old bollocks of nobody wants to come that's just a cop out , you've obviously got a very low opinion of the club you supposedly support. We didnt try its blatently obvious.

Camarasa is a different matter, nobody can blame him for choosing la-liga over the championship.

There are always players available you just have to have the contacts but it's quite obvious that Harris doesnt.
Swansea only got Brewster because the manager knew him from England set up and the player said that himself. They have even less money than us so how do they get good players ? Or are they more attractive



Your bonkers! What strikers were jumping to join us in window? Wheres you contacts that told you we didnt try to sign these strikers that would jump at chance to sign for us? If I was a striker I wouldn't come here why? Because 6 strikers have failed thats why its because of way we play! Its not case of dont want to come here its case of do we want them did other teams want them was cost to high with wages taking into account! did manager want him to come here all are valid reasons for not signing players whatever position.. you've answered you own points with brewster he went where he knew manager and they play possession football plus are liverpool paying all his wages. This is precisely the points I've made previously yet you've ignored them and then use same reason why a player signed for swans and not another club! I give up let someone who have more patience than me to explain that you simply cannot sign players because you want them.. there are influences like manager or player connections, or style of play, or a manager preference where his player goes, or the overall cost everyone of these reasons will prevent a player coming here no matter how much we want them . :thumbup:
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Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:15 pm

Put down the crack pipe Thomas, you're taking jibberish.

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:17 pm

BAMBA CREW wrote:Put down the crack pipe Thomas, you're taking jibberish.



Fair play this thread is great :thumbup:

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:22 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Steve kodiak

Wigans manager confirmed they had rejected the bid

Camarasa was all reports but like I said was probably talk to look good
For the fans.


Why didn't either player go elsewhere in England ?


Because nobody was stupid enough to match Wigans valuation and Camarasa chose to go back to spain and la liga.

Doesnt mean we couldn't have signed him. And I wouldnt pay £2mill for him anyway. Hes shit



Thats a contradictory statement? You saying one minute should be getting him then saying to expensive and crap? And camerasa didn't want come here which I have consistently told you its about players wanting to come here but you wouldn't have it... January is all about topping up squads if required due to injuries or are willing to pay over the odds for a striker ! We don't need a striker that's for sure.. and probably no midfielder available at right price or quality required..


We dont need a striker ?

We have Ward who is constantly injured and league 1 standard at best

Vassell is the hide and seek champion of the world

Glatzel is a carthorse and the biggest waste of money since Cornelius.

The only other option is a converted right back .

But no we dont need a striker at all

I never said we should be getting him hes no better than Madine was. We would have overpaid at £2mill. But it begs the question if we had that money available why didnt we get anyone. There are plenty of strikers in that price range who would jump at the chance to play here. Dont give time the same old bollocks of nobody wants to come that's just a cop out , you've obviously got a very low opinion of the club you supposedly support. We didnt try its blatently obvious.

Camarasa is a different matter, nobody can blame him for choosing la-liga over the championship.

There are always players available you just have to have the contacts but it's quite obvious that Harris doesnt.
Swansea only got Brewster because the manager knew him from England set up and the player said that himself. They have even less money than us so how do they get good players ? Or are they more attractive



Your bonkers! What strikers were jumping to join us in window? Wheres you contacts that told you we didnt try to sign these strikers that would jump at chance to sign for us? If I was a striker I wouldn't come here why? Because 6 strikers have failed thats why its because of way we play! Its not case of dont want to come here its case of do we want them did other teams want them was cost to high with wages taking into account! did manager want him to come here all are valid reasons for not signing players whatever position.. you've answered you own points with brewster he went where he knew manager and they play possession football plus are liverpool paying all his wages. This is precisely the points I've made previously yet you've ignored them and then use same reason why a player signed for swans and not another club! I give up let someone who have more patience than me to explain that you simply cannot sign players because you want them.. there are influences like manager or player connections, or style of play, or a manager preference where his player goes, or the overall cost everyone of these reasons will prevent a player coming here no matter how much we want them . :thumbup:


Why do you even support this club if you think so low of it ?
Every player is different but you bracket them all the same and nobody in the world wants to come here according to you. We better not sell any more because we wobt have enough players to put a team out next season according to your logic
All of the reasons you give as to why players would not sign are the same ones as to why they would. You just obviously think this club is tin pot.
Last edited by thomasblue on Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:22 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:
BAMBA CREW wrote:Put down the crack pipe Thomas, you're taking jibberish.



Fair play this thread is great :thumbup:



Its like talking to our unwanted friend just cannot get through about the January window being a bad time to sign players and the whys and nots of reasons players dont sign for a club any club that is..

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:25 pm

Charlie Harper wrote:
BAMBA CREW wrote:Put down the crack pipe Thomas, you're taking jibberish.



Fair play this thread is great :thumbup:


Haha it is entertaining

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:25 pm

BAMBA CREW wrote:Put down the crack pipe Thomas, you're taking jibberish.


Here he comes again
Whats wrong ? Mummy make you put the fifa 20 game away because you have school tomorrow ?

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:25 pm

thomasblue wrote:
BAMBA CREW wrote:Put down the crack pipe Thomas, you're taking jibberish.


Here he comes again
Whats wrong ? Mummy make you put the fifa 20 game away because you have school tomorrow ?


Using my own comments against me, a brilliant move.

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:26 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Charlie Harper wrote:
BAMBA CREW wrote:Put down the crack pipe Thomas, you're taking jibberish.



Fair play this thread is great :thumbup:



Its like talking to our unwanted friend just cannot get through about the January window being a bad time to sign players and the whys and nots of reasons players dont sign for a club any club that is..


Same could be said the other way.
You argue blind and never allow another opinion but your own

I've already said we wont agree on this but you carry on trying to justify your opinion anyway. Even though it shows a poor opinion of our club and its appeal

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:27 pm

BAMBA CREW wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
BAMBA CREW wrote:Put down the crack pipe Thomas, you're taking jibberish.


Here he comes again
Whats wrong ? Mummy make you put the fifa 20 game away because you have school tomorrow ?


Using my own comments against me, a brilliant move.

Yeah I liked that one aswell

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:30 pm

thomasblue wrote:
BAMBA CREW wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
BAMBA CREW wrote:Put down the crack pipe Thomas, you're taking jibberish.


Here he comes again
Whats wrong ? Mummy make you put the fifa 20 game away because you have school tomorrow ?


Using my own comments against me, a brilliant move.

Yeah I liked that one aswell


Haha we're not going to agree, let's agree to disagree. The January window is very hard to get decent players in but part of me agrees the club's ambitions could have been higher

Re: “ Very poor window “

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:30 pm

thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
thomasblue wrote:Steve kodiak

Wigans manager confirmed they had rejected the bid

Camarasa was all reports but like I said was probably talk to look good
For the fans.


Why didn't either player go elsewhere in England ?


Because nobody was stupid enough to match Wigans valuation and Camarasa chose to go back to spain and la liga.

Doesnt mean we couldn't have signed him. And I wouldnt pay £2mill for him anyway. Hes shit



Thats a contradictory statement? You saying one minute should be getting him then saying to expensive and crap? And camerasa didn't want come here which I have consistently told you its about players wanting to come here but you wouldn't have it... January is all about topping up squads if required due to injuries or are willing to pay over the odds for a striker ! We don't need a striker that's for sure.. and probably no midfielder available at right price or quality required..


We dont need a striker ?

We have Ward who is constantly injured and league 1 standard at best

Vassell is the hide and seek champion of the world

Glatzel is a carthorse and the biggest waste of money since Cornelius.

The only other option is a converted right back .

But no we dont need a striker at all

I never said we should be getting him hes no better than Madine was. We would have overpaid at £2mill. But it begs the question if we had that money available why didnt we get anyone. There are plenty of strikers in that price range who would jump at the chance to play here. Dont give time the same old bollocks of nobody wants to come that's just a cop out , you've obviously got a very low opinion of the club you supposedly support. We didnt try its blatently obvious.

Camarasa is a different matter, nobody can blame him for choosing la-liga over the championship.

There are always players available you just have to have the contacts but it's quite obvious that Harris doesnt.
Swansea only got Brewster because the manager knew him from England set up and the player said that himself. They have even less money than us so how do they get good players ? Or are they more attractive



Your bonkers! What strikers were jumping to join us in window? Wheres you contacts that told you we didnt try to sign these strikers that would jump at chance to sign for us? If I was a striker I wouldn't come here why? Because 6 strikers have failed thats why its because of way we play! Its not case of dont want to come here its case of do we want them did other teams want them was cost to high with wages taking into account! did manager want him to come here all are valid reasons for not signing players whatever position.. you've answered you own points with brewster he went where he knew manager and they play possession football plus are liverpool paying all his wages. This is precisely the points I've made previously yet you've ignored them and then use same reason why a player signed for swans and not another club! I give up let someone who have more patience than me to explain that you simply cannot sign players because you want them.. there are influences like manager or player connections, or style of play, or a manager preference where his player goes, or the overall cost everyone of these reasons will prevent a player coming here no matter how much we want them . :thumbup:


Why do you even support this club if you think so low of it ?
Every player is different but you bracket them all the same and nobody in the world wants to come here according to you. We better not sell any more because we wobt have enough players to put a team out next season according to your logic



all players are different yet you class all our strikers as useless and not actually strikers..... are you roathy in disguise never said no one will sign but gave you the reason why they may not have signed this window massive difference to your statement which are getting more and more contradictory! I've consistently said need to wait for summer to sign the 6/8 players we need when better players are available and at better prices than January is that clear enough for you? :thumbup: