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Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:40 am

welshcasual wrote:
dogfound wrote:
I went to a race meeting and there is this guy late 60s with 2 inflatable arm bands with swim away ink markered on them... now I reckon he was 30s when this happened and know some of { not all } the Cardiff fans were children...blokes a peado..?
and quite happy to be one by looks of things..


Are you drunk?



sober and hate peados

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:43 am

dogfound wrote:sober and hate peados


You seem to have a strange obsession with them tbh. You are the only one to be the only one mentioning child molestation in situations that are far removed from it, its a bit odd, truly. I think you are the first person I have ever heard turn the swim away into sexual molestation of children, its scary that it seems so easily accessible in your mind that you can create it out of nothing :?

Can we put this back on topic please, its getting very weird. :roll:

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:53 am

welshcasual wrote:
dogfound wrote:sober and hate peados


You seem to have a strange obsession with them tbh. You are the only one to be the only one mentioning child molestation in situations that are far removed from it, its a bit odd, truly. I think you are the first person I have ever heard turn the swim away into sexual molestation of children, its scary that it seems so easily accessible in your mind that you can create it out of nothing :?

Can we put this back on topic please, its getting very weird. :roll:



your weird people. and you brought it up..

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:20 am

welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
Again it’s the same old soundbites and little substance.

I’ll correct myself.. no substance whatsoever.


I have explained the position perfectly, many times. I can do no more than just direct you back to them if you are still struggling to understand the points being made. I can do no more.


The problem is your points are based on supposition i.e. ‘ someone pretends people are dying inside’.

There is no evidence to support this claim. If there is, let’s see it. If not, then it is false.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:46 pm

rumpo kid wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
Again it’s the same old soundbites and little substance.

I’ll correct myself.. no substance whatsoever.


I have explained the position perfectly, many times. I can do no more than just direct you back to them if you are still struggling to understand the points being made. I can do no more.


The problem is your points are based on supposition i.e. ‘ someone pretends people are dying inside’.

There is no evidence to support this claim. If there is, let’s see it. If not, then it is false.


Quite the opposite, I am the only one speaking from an informed position - I am a Swansea fan.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:48 pm

welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
Again it’s the same old soundbites and little substance.

I’ll correct myself.. no substance whatsoever.


I have explained the position perfectly, many times. I can do no more than just direct you back to them if you are still struggling to understand the points being made. I can do no more.


The problem is your points are based on supposition i.e. ‘ someone pretends people are dying inside’.

There is no evidence to support this claim. If there is, let’s see it. If not, then it is false.


Quite the opposite, I am the only one speaking from an informed position - I am a Swansea fan.


Feck off Roathy no one cares :wave:

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:13 pm

welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
Again it’s the same old soundbites and little substance.

I’ll correct myself.. no substance whatsoever.


I have explained the position perfectly, many times. I can do no more than just direct you back to them if you are still struggling to understand the points being made. I can do no more.


The problem is your points are based on supposition i.e. ‘ someone pretends people are dying inside’.

There is no evidence to support this claim. If there is, let’s see it. If not, then it is false.


Quite the opposite, I am the only one speaking from an informed position - I am a Swansea fan.



That’s the answer to a completely different question. You are posting inferences on here that are lies.

When called out on it you obfuscate. Its the MO of a child.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:09 pm

rumpo kid wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
Again it’s the same old soundbites and little substance.

I’ll correct myself.. no substance whatsoever.


I have explained the position perfectly, many times. I can do no more than just direct you back to them if you are still struggling to understand the points being made. I can do no more.


The problem is your points are based on supposition i.e. ‘ someone pretends people are dying inside’.

There is no evidence to support this claim. If there is, let’s see it. If not, then it is false.


Quite the opposite, I am the only one speaking from an informed position - I am a Swansea fan.



That’s the answer to a completely different question. You are posting inferences on here that are lies.

When called out on it you obfuscate. Its the MO of a child.


He speaks from an informed position about city aswell because he knows everything about our club if you believe what he says of course? Its Just one if his many talents he portrays on here...:mrgreen:

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Thu Jan 02, 2020 6:58 pm

You seem to have difficulty understanding other people's posts.

And yet criticise them for not being able to understand yours.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:37 pm

rumpo kid wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
Again it’s the same old soundbites and little substance.

I’ll correct myself.. no substance whatsoever.


I have explained the position perfectly, many times. I can do no more than just direct you back to them if you are still struggling to understand the points being made. I can do no more.


The problem is your points are based on supposition i.e. ‘ someone pretends people are dying inside’.

There is no evidence to support this claim. If there is, let’s see it. If not, then it is false.


Quite the opposite, I am the only one speaking from an informed position - I am a Swansea fan.



That’s the answer to a completely different question. You are posting inferences on here that are lies.

When called out on it you obfuscate. Its the MO of a child.


No it isn’t. The theme of the thread is people pretending that Swansea fans are jealous. I am an informed position to give an informed response to that.

There is no “calling out”, as usual you don’t understand words on a screen. :laughing6:

Feel free to show me Swans fans saying how jealous they are, because of course your own logic suggests if you can’t then it’s false... right? :laughing6:

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:38 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
He speaks from an informed position about city aswell because he knows everything about our club if you believe what he says of course? Its Just one if his many talents he portrays on here...:mrgreen:


Which do you disagree with then?

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:10 am

welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:
Again it’s the same old soundbites and little substance.

I’ll correct myself.. no substance whatsoever.


I have explained the position perfectly, many times. I can do no more than just direct you back to them if you are still struggling to understand the points being made. I can do no more.


The problem is your points are based on supposition i.e. ‘ someone pretends people are dying inside’.

There is no evidence to support this claim. If there is, let’s see it. If not, then it is false.


Quite the opposite, I am the only one speaking from an informed position - I am a Swansea fan.





That’s the answer to a completely different question. You are posting inferences on here that are lies.

When called out on it you obfuscate. Its the MO of a child.


No it isn’t. The theme of the thread is people pretending that Swansea fans are jealous. I am an informed position to give an informed response to that.

There is no “calling out”, as usual you don’t understand words on a screen. :laughing6:

Feel free to show me Swans fans saying how jealous they are, because of course your own logic suggests if you can’t then it’s false... right? :laughing6:


I have never made the claim. You claim otherwise, and all I requested was you back it up but you seem unable to.
If you can’t corroborate statements you make on behalf of thousands of people you’ve never met, don’t make them.

It’s fairly simple, but you do seem to struggle with some of the basic tenets.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:27 am

rumpo kid wrote:
I have never made the claim. You claim otherwise, and all I requested was you back it up but you seem unable to.
If you can’t corroborate statements you make on behalf of thousands of people you’ve never met, don’t make them.

It’s fairly simple, but you do seem to struggle with some of the basic tenets.


I think you are struggling to understand the concept of the conversation.

You prove accusations, not denials. Innocent until proven guilty not guilty until proven innocent.

The accusation is that Swansea fans are jealous of the Cup win in the 20’s, being a Swansea fan I denied that and gave reasoning behind certain comments from an informed position. The reasoning behind the accusation is a thread on another forum where Swansea fans are laughing and poking fun of how long ago it was and how it is used in the present day context. So nothing there at all is an admission of envy.

So the deal is either prove we are jealous, or quite simply you will have to take my word for it that we are not. That’s how it works whether you would like it to work another way is largely irrelevant. If I call you a murderer, I would have to prove it - you would not have to prove you are not.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:48 am

You can’t speak on behalf of people you don’t know. It’s wrong. The people you think you speak for, don’t even want to speak to you, so that’s going well.

So stop being a silly Mitty.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:52 am

rumpo kid wrote:You can’t speak on behalf of people you don’t know. It’s wrong. The people you think you speak for, don’t even want to speak to you, so that’s going well.

So stop being a silly Mitty.


Isn't that what the thread is about though? People saying others are jealous? It seems your rules only work one way. How do you know people don't want to speak to me? You can't speak for other people - it's wrong :laughing6:

If the accusation is that Swansea fans are jealous of a certain aspect, as I am one I can give an informed view on it.... you can't, unless you have some proof of course. :thumbright:

Take your time.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:11 pm

Read the posts above as you’re having difficulty. I have made no such claim.
It’s now obvious you can’t back your statements up, so I say don’t make them. It’s not difficult to understand, but you do seem to struggle. So you’re called out as a blaggard, and can’t counter it with any conviction.


P.S.

You haven’t used Fibbus Biggus yet. Although Jack-a-nory would be more apt.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:29 pm

I am sure no Swansea fan is jealous of Cardiff City.

Just as no Cardiff City fan is jealous of Swansea City. It's only a rivalry because we are so geographically close, and is usually worse when we are in the same division. Swansea are no threat to us, they are just another team. I don't like them, but i don't like a lot of teams. They have been higher than us for 7 seasons while they were in the Prem, and the season they went up when they got above us on the last day I think. We were higher than them last season, they are currently higher than us. Until they got promoted in to the Championship we'd been higher than them for about 10 years. So it's swings an roundabouts.

They are coming off the greatest part in their club's history, 7 seasons in the top flight and a Cup success. It has never happened before and may never happen again. We've had a good past decade, and it has been enjoyable for us in the most part, but our greatest period was in our clubs infancy in the 1920s. We've both been good and bad over the years. The 1980s were bad for both of us as we both ended up in Division 4 together.

I'm just glad that, at the moment, we are financially secure with Mr Tan. Looks what's happening down there. No money, no investment, club up for sale and stories of the Academy closing and selling their training facilities. Nobody wants top see another club asset stripped of course, the same applies to Bury and Macclesfield.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:45 pm

I think it perverse that one club that hasn't won the FA Cup tries to take the mick out of a club for doing so. Very strange.

StT.
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Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:57 pm

dogfound wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
dogfound wrote:sober and hate peados


You seem to have a strange obsession with them tbh. You are the only one to be the only one mentioning child molestation in situations that are far removed from it, its a bit odd, truly. I think you are the first person I have ever heard turn the swim away into sexual molestation of children, its scary that it seems so easily accessible in your mind that you can create it out of nothing :?

Can we put this back on topic please, its getting very weird. :roll:



your weird people. and you brought it up..


You think I brought it up?

I think you will find you did, and I quote:-

dogfound wrote:

it has nothing to do with the fa cup other than a time factor...its sang about an ex chairman for Christ sake... and the we chased a few youths into the sea..how old is that ? and please don't say its not been sang for 15 years...its your anthem / greatest achievement.. and no im not jealous of the league cup { i wouldn't mind winning it but not jealous } or chasing children ..

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:59 pm

Steve the Tea TM (c) wrote:I think it perverse that one club that hasn't won the FA Cup tries to take the mick out of a club for doing so. Very strange.

StT.
<><


Nobody is making fun of you for winning it, people tend to poke fun that you use the almost 100 year old win and place it in modern day comparison situations to represent modern day outcomes such as club size and current day club comparisons. I have been perfectly clear on making that distinction.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:05 pm

rumpo kid wrote:Read the posts above as you’re having difficulty. I have made no such claim.
It’s now obvious you can’t back your statements up, so I say don’t make them. It’s not difficult to understand, but you do seem to struggle. So you’re called out as a blaggard, and can’t counter it with any conviction.


P.S.

You haven’t used Fibbus Biggus yet. Although Jack-a-nory would be more apt.


You aren’t following this very well are you. It doesn’t matter who made the claim, my counter was in response to an accusation. In order to make an accusation you must have proof for it to be valid, if an accusation is made then the victim of the accusation has every right for a denial, especially if they are coming from an informed position.

Maybe you should change your name to CantFollowTheThread or StruggleKid, they would be far more apt.

So unless we can start seeing some evidence, I am of course correct in my posting that Swansea fans are not jealous of an almost 100 year old cup win and a thread mocking the aftermath of the win is just that and for the reasons I stated :thumbright:

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:48 pm

welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Read the posts above as you’re having difficulty. I have made no such claim.
It’s now obvious you can’t back your statements up, so I say don’t make them. It’s not difficult to understand, but you do seem to struggle. So you’re called out as a blaggard, and can’t counter it with any conviction.


P.S.

You haven’t used Fibbus Biggus yet. Although Jack-a-nory would be more apt.


You aren’t following this very well are you. It doesn’t matter who made the claim, my counter was in response to an accusation. In order to make an accusation you must have proof for it to be valid, if an accusation is made then the victim of the accusation has every right for a denial, especially if they are coming from an informed position.

Maybe you should change your name to CantFollowTheThread or StruggleKid, they would be far more apt.

So unless we can start seeing some evidence, I am of course correct in my posting that Swansea fans are not jealous of an almost 100 year old cup win and a thread mocking the aftermath of the win is just that and for the reasons I stated :thumbright:


Wow. You really get better and better. The gift that keeps giving! On par with that answer on Mastermind... Or was that you in a wig?

I thought there is no right of denial? You have stated this previously. Bore off Pikachu or should we call you Sharon.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:50 pm

jimmy_rat wrote:
welshcasual wrote:
rumpo kid wrote:Read the posts above as you’re having difficulty. I have made no such claim.
It’s now obvious you can’t back your statements up, so I say don’t make them. It’s not difficult to understand, but you do seem to struggle. So you’re called out as a blaggard, and can’t counter it with any conviction.


P.S.

You haven’t used Fibbus Biggus yet. Although Jack-a-nory would be more apt.


You aren’t following this very well are you. It doesn’t matter who made the claim, my counter was in response to an accusation. In order to make an accusation you must have proof for it to be valid, if an accusation is made then the victim of the accusation has every right for a denial, especially if they are coming from an informed position.

Maybe you should change your name to CantFollowTheThread or StruggleKid, they would be far more apt.

So unless we can start seeing some evidence, I am of course correct in my posting that Swansea fans are not jealous of an almost 100 year old cup win and a thread mocking the aftermath of the win is just that and for the reasons I stated :thumbright:


Wow. You really get better and better. The gift that keeps giving! On par with that answer on Mastermind... Or was that you in a wig?

I thought there is no right of denial? You have stated this previously. Bore off Pikachu or should we call you Sharon.


Thanks and all but... You thought there was no right of denial? I have never stated that previously, you are obviously confused. :roll:

Accusations with zero proof is very different to accusations with clear proof.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:00 am

So, you didn’t bother to consider if a statement was true or not before responding with fantasy and lies?

A very careless practice indeed, for if the original is not ratified, then you entered into what was a big fat nothing. Goodness, how one is easily led. You must learn to observe, not scan. PM me if you need further advice on this matter.

A rather gullible assistant indeed. Tut.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:11 am

rumpo kid wrote:So, you didn’t bother to consider if a statement was true or not before responding with fantasy and lies?

A very careless practice indeed, for if the original is not ratified, then you entered into what was a big fat nothing. Goodness, how one is easily led. You must learn to observe, not scan. PM me if you need further advice on this matter.

A rather gullible assistant indeed. Tut.


What makes you think I didn’t consider it? The accusation was clear that it was based on a thread, I reviewed the thread which mirrored my explanation of said accusation, which pointed to the fact the accusation was indeed false.

So added to the initial accusation not being ratified, I added weight to said summary by giving a view from an informed position. A perfect way to handle such accusations.

But you keep trying, I’m sure your protestations make sense in your head :laughing6:

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:19 pm

I think i have to say that back in the 1920s , well up until 1928/29 Cardiff were one of the finest teams in the country. Elected in to Division Two, promoted in first season, Division One runners-up, 3 FA Cup Semi Finals, Two FA Cup Finals, once as winners, and a Charity Shield win. 8 seasons in the top flight. Difficult for us top forget really, but still relevant. You ignored my post about Swansea waited 80 years ago to do anything ?

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:32 pm

valleymodeller wrote:I think i have to say that back in the 1920s , well up until 1928/29 Cardiff were one of the finest teams in the country. Elected in to Division Two, promoted in first season, Division One runners-up, 3 FA Cup Semi Finals, Two FA Cup Finals, once as winners, and a Charity Shield win. 8 seasons in the top flight. Difficult for us top forget really, but still relevant. You ignored my post about Swansea waited 80 years ago to do anything ?



That's what he does best he ignores posts that he knows is true and posts something completely different twisting facts to suite his agenda whatever that is! :old:

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:44 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
valleymodeller wrote:I think i have to say that back in the 1920s , well up until 1928/29 Cardiff were one of the finest teams in the country. Elected in to Division Two, promoted in first season, Division One runners-up, 3 FA Cup Semi Finals, Two FA Cup Finals, once as winners, and a Charity Shield win. 8 seasons in the top flight. Difficult for us top forget really, but still relevant. You ignored my post about Swansea waited 80 years ago to do anything ?



That's what he does best he ignores posts that he knows is true and posts something completely different twisting facts to suite his agenda whatever that is! :old:


What do you mean ignores them? It’s his latest post :lol:

That’s the point “difficult for us to forget” - you can’t forget something that you weren’t there to remember.

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:04 pm

GENERAL CHAT wrote:https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/forum/251900/when-cardiff-city-won-the-fa-cup/#52

In response to their thread,

Please post your memories when Swansea won it....OH wait......THEY NEVER HAVE!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously though, can we now dismiss the winners of the cup prior to say 1950 and tell all the clubs who have their win don't count anymore?


Never going to happen.

Still,..... Obviously well jell of our win.... :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5: :laughing5:

Love that clip in Twin Town with the JB in the bath explaining about triangular flags :lol:

Re: When Swansea won the FA Cup...

Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:19 pm

welshcasual wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
valleymodeller wrote:I think i have to say that back in the 1920s , well up until 1928/29 Cardiff were one of the finest teams in the country. Elected in to Division Two, promoted in first season, Division One runners-up, 3 FA Cup Semi Finals, Two FA Cup Finals, once as winners, and a Charity Shield win. 8 seasons in the top flight. Difficult for us top forget really, but still relevant. You ignored my post about Swansea waited 80 years ago to do anything ?



That's what he does best he ignores posts that he knows is true and posts something completely different twisting facts to suite his agenda whatever that is! :old:


What do you mean ignores them? It’s his latest post :lol:

That’s the point “difficult for us to forget” - you can’t forget something that you weren’t there to remember.


No I posted that some posts ago further up the page, but as I say, it was ignored. And still not responded to with any answer.