‘ Jacks ‘

Now we have answered the OP and established that it is cowardly and inaccurate to claim to not know where the jacks are after getting rid of them due to not being able to face them after the last derby defeat...

I’d love to know more about this march. Goats can you help us out with this one?

Cooper out, where’s the parachute money gone, the American owners, what needs changing? Just a few threads on ps today.
Face it roathie, you are on your own. Not many of you stuck around post relegation hey

So which one was about a march?

Now we have answered the OP and established that it is cowardly and inaccurate to claim to not know where the jacks are after getting rid of them due to not being able to face them after the last derby defeat...

I’d love to know more about this march. Goats can you help us out with this one?

Cooper out, where’s the parachute money gone, the American owners, what needs changing? Just a few threads on ps today.
Face it roathie, you are on your own. Not many of you stuck around post relegation hey

Don't mix up this melodramatic attention seeker with even your average Swan supporter. He isn't one. It just suits his agenda to pretend to be one.

It beggars belief but to be fair (on him) he has pretended to be so many people and be a supporter (often "in peace") of so many teams on here (including our own) it even confuses him

So much so, that he often answers his own posts in a sad, weak and needy attempt to seek people on whom to inflict his one-sided opinions.

It is an issue and one for which professional help can be sought

For the record, there aren't too many Jack's who have actually been banned and to the best of my knowledge 'Proud Jack' is still free to lurk; contrary to the insinuations of the one who would have you believe he is the font of all knowledge.

Inter club discussion is welcomed when it's on the level and it's mainly just the one pretend 'Jack' (albeit under many names) that gets removed

All that said, I have to say that I think the OP and this whole thread has set up the confitions that just invite Lurkio to appear and for that matter some only have themselves to blame

Sadly, means the rest of us have to suffer

Now we have answered the OP and established that it is cowardly and inaccurate to claim to not know where the jacks are after getting rid of them due to not being able to face them after the last derby defeat...

I’d love to know more about this march. Goats can you help us out with this one?

Cooper out, where’s the parachute money gone, the American owners, what needs changing? Just a few threads on ps today.
Face it roathie, you are on your own. Not many of you stuck around post relegation hey

Don't mix up this melodramatic attention seeker with even your average Swan supporter. He isn't one. It just suits his agenda to pretend to be one.

It beggars belief but to be fair (on him) he has pretended to be so many people and be a supporter (often "in peace") of so many teams on here (including our own) it even confuses him

So much so, that he often answers his own posts in a sad, weak and needy attempt to seek people on whom to inflict his one-sided opinions.

It is an issue and one for which professional help can be sought

For the record, there aren't too many Jack's who have actually been banned and to the best of my knowledge 'Proud Jack' is still free to lurk; contrary to the insinuations of the one who would have you believe he is the font of all knowledge.

Inter club discussion is welcomed when it's on the level and it's mainly just the one pretend 'Jack' (albeit under many names) that gets removed

All that said, I have to say that I think the OP and this whole thread has set up the confitions that just invite Lurkio to appear and for that matter some only have themselves to blame

Sadly, means the rest of us have to suffer

And like clockwork Sven weighs in completely frustrated and annoyed to the point he has to further peddle fantasies and myths in order to convince (probably himself) of them.

Let’s speak accurately:-

1) I am absolutely a Swansea fan and have been a season ticket holder for many years through the 90’s and 00’s before having to leave Wales due to my high ambitions.

2) I have never pretended to be a fan of any other club apart from Cardiff. This was forced as I was banned simply for giving my views as a Swansea one. I’m sure you can all guess which Cardiff name I took...

3) I have never, ever had multiple usernames on the forum. Multiple as in two actively posting at once. Never on any occasion. My new usernames are created or used when the last one gets banned for being correct or not rising to bait.

4) Swansea fans have notoriously been banned from here when a derby doesn’t go your way. This is either due to mods not being able to handle it themselves (current incumbent prime example) or indeed collective pressure on Annis who tends to get swayed pretty easily.

5) I am one of the most unbiased posters ever to post on this forum. Have criticised my team, I have praised them, I have criticised yours and also praised them. It is this nature that means my posts carry more weight than most and it is this reason the likes of Sven see me as a threat and fall over themselves to stop me airing those views.

Sven is essentially Pembroke Allan with a ban button. Incredibly insecure, feels intellectually damaged every time he engages with me and the mere thought I am on here means he convinces himself I am everybody. It is prime behaviour of a troll with a bit of power.

I have said to everyone multiple times. If everybody sticks to football then we will all get on fine, it won’t be me to make a personal remark first. Yet people like him find it impossible... exhibit A m’lud

Anyway, now the OP has his obvious answer, and we have addressed some of the fantasists favourite self created myths, we still have one to clear up...

About this march.... goats over to you

Now we have answered the OP and established that it is cowardly and inaccurate to claim to not know where the jacks are after getting rid of them due to not being able to face them after the last derby defeat...

I’d love to know more about this march. Goats can you help us out with this one?

Cooper out, where’s the parachute money gone, the American owners, what needs changing? Just a few threads on ps today.
Face it roathie, you are on your own. Not many of you stuck around post relegation hey

Don't mix up this melodramatic attention seeker with even your average Swan supporter. He isn't one. It just suits his agenda to pretend to be one.

It beggars belief but to be fair (on him) he has pretended to be so many people and be a supporter (often "in peace") of so many teams on here (including our own) it even confuses him

So much so, that he often answers his own posts in a sad, weak and needy attempt to seek people on whom to inflict his one-sided opinions.

It is an issue and one for which professional help can be sought

For the record, there aren't too many Jack's who have actually been banned and to the best of my knowledge 'Proud Jack' is still free to lurk; contrary to the insinuations of the one who would have you believe he is the font of all knowledge.

Inter club discussion is welcomed when it's on the level and it's mainly just the one pretend 'Jack' (albeit under many names) that gets removed

All that said, I have to say that I think the OP and this whole thread has set up the confitions that just invite Lurkio to appear and for that matter some only have themselves to blame

Sadly, means the rest of us have to suffer

And like clockwork Sven weighs in completely frustrated and annoyed to the point he has to further peddle fantasies and myths in order to convince (probably himself) of them.

Let’s speak accurately:-

1) I am absolutely a Swansea fan and have been a season ticket holder for many years through the 90’s and 00’s before having to leave Wales due to my high ambitions.

2) I have never pretended to be a fan of any other club apart from Cardiff. This was forced as I was banned simply for giving my views as a Swansea one. I’m sure you can all guess which Cardiff name I took...

3) I have never, ever had multiple usernames on the forum. Multiple as in two actively posting at once. Never on any occasion. My new usernames are created or used when the last one gets banned for being correct or not rising to bait.

4) Swansea fans have notoriously been banned from here when a derby doesn’t go your way. This is either due to mods not being able to handle it themselves (current incumbent prime example) or indeed collective pressure on Annis who tends to get swayed pretty easily.

5) I am one of the most unbiased posters ever to post on this forum. Have criticised my team, I have praised them, I have criticised yours and also praised them. It is this nature that means my posts carry more weight than most and it is this reason the likes of Sven see me as a threat and fall over themselves to stop me airing those views.

Sven is essentially Pembroke Allan with a ban button. Incredibly insecure, feels intellectually damaged every time he engages with me and the mere thought I am on here means he convinces himself I am everybody. It is prime behaviour of a troll with a bit of power.

I have said to everyone multiple times. If everybody sticks to football then we will all get on fine, it won’t be me to make a personal remark first. Yet people like him find it impossible... exhibit A m’lud

No offence,but can anyone have a blow on that enormous trumpet of yours? Or is it solely for you only? Just asking.

None taken.

It isn’t blowing my trumpet, it’s simply saying the truth. That means I’m a little arrogant, intelligent enough to dismantle weak arguments and defend mine well which seems to annoy people that less able to do so... and am a staunch Swansea City and Wales supporter.

Those reasons and those reasons alone are why I get banned, why people don’t like my usernames and why Sven feels the need to make stuff up about me. Let’s not kid ourselves otherwise. As we saw after the derby, there was a consistent attack on Swansea fans to smear them, these were made stickies and were relentless in their frequency.

I had the intelligence to take a neutral standpoint condemning those people while finding the same behaviour (worse) on the other side and ask for equality in morals. There was no other way out than to silence that as it was destroying the narrative wanting to be portrayed falsely to ease the pain of the defeat.

If everybody talked football, had some banter and didn’t stoop to shaping views and lying then we would have some excellent threads. The problem with that however is that often means facing things that are unpalatable.

Now we have answered the OP and established that it is cowardly and inaccurate to claim to not know where the jacks are after getting rid of them due to not being able to face them after the last derby defeat...

I’d love to know more about this march. Goats can you help us out with this one?

Cooper out, where’s the parachute money gone, the American owners, what needs changing? Just a few threads on ps today.
Face it roathie, you are on your own. Not many of you stuck around post relegation hey

Don't mix up this melodramatic attention seeker with even your average Swan supporter. He isn't one. It just suits his agenda to pretend to be one.

It beggars belief but to be fair (on him) he has pretended to be so many people and be a supporter (often "in peace") of so many teams on here (including our own) it even confuses him

So much so, that he often answers his own posts in a sad, weak and needy attempt to seek people on whom to inflict his one-sided opinions.

It is an issue and one for which professional help can be sought

For the record, there aren't too many Jack's who have actually been banned and to the best of my knowledge 'Proud Jack' is still free to lurk; contrary to the insinuations of the one who would have you believe he is the font of all knowledge.

Inter club discussion is welcomed when it's on the level and it's mainly just the one pretend 'Jack' (albeit under many names) that gets removed

All that said, I have to say that I think the OP and this whole thread has set up the confitions that just invite Lurkio to appear and for that matter some only have themselves to blame

Sadly, means the rest of us have to suffer

He is a very sad case Sven as we all know. I rarely respond to his drivel that he aims to suck you in too in an attempt to combat his loneliness. He even remembers the last one a few months ago a new account, 25 posts in a day or so, waffle, you know it’s him.

He is a very sad case Sven as we all know. I rarely respond to his drivel that he aims to suck you in too in an attempt to combat his loneliness. He even remembers the last one a few months ago a new account, 25 posts in a day or so, waffle, you know it’s him.

Yet more desperate tripe you are determined to convince yourself of, “we all know” - such a tell tale sign

Of course I remember our last conversation, it was about as bizarre as this one. It’s not every day you speak to someone who literally has a fantasy in every single post, it’s very memorable.

What do you mean “you know it’s him” ffs, I make it pretty clear from post one who I am, or didn’t you notice

Now then, this march.... seems like you have backed away from this now you have been pressed on it. Wonder why..

None taken.

It isn’t blowing my trumpet, it’s simply saying the truth. That means I’m a little arrogant, intelligent enough to dismantle weak arguments and defend mine well which seems to annoy people that less able to do so... and am a staunch Swansea City and Wales supporter.

Those reasons and those reasons alone are why I get banned, why people don’t like my usernames and why Sven feels the need to make stuff up about me. Let’s not kid ourselves otherwise. As we saw after the derby, there was a consistent attack on Swansea fans to smear them, these were made stickies and were relentless in their frequency.

I had the intelligence to take a neutral standpoint condemning those people while finding the same behaviour (worse) on the other side and ask for equality in morals. There was no other way out than to silence that as it was destroying the narrative wanting to be portrayed falsely to ease the pain of the defeat.

If everybody talked football, had some banter and didn’t stoop to shaping views and lying then we would have some excellent threads. The problem with that however is that often means facing things that are unpalatable.

Just you and proud jack roathie and he’s lost his pride of late, so just lonely you.x

Nice to see that even though you are now 1 point ahead, you clearly still feel inferior.

At least you know your place I guess...

:laughing6: Nice to see that even though you are now 1 point ahead, you clearly still feel inferior.

At least you know your place I guess...

Fack off Roathy - Ban time coming -

:laughing6: Nice to see that even though you are now 1 point ahead, you clearly still feel inferior.

At least you know your place I guess...

Fack off Roathy - Ban time coming -

A ban? For correcting mistruths and answering questions??

Please no, that will be awful, it will mean I won’t be able to post again, won’t it...

The most pointless exercise known to man, I will look forward to it

:laughing6: Nice to see that even though you are now 1 point ahead, you clearly still feel inferior.

At least you know your place I guess...

Fack off Roathy - Ban time coming -

A ban? For correcting mistruths and answering questions??

Please no, that will be awful, it will mean I won’t be able to post again, won’t it...

The most pointless exercise known to man, I will look forward to it

Just a load of bla bla bla...don’t even bother to read what he says now

Just a load of bla bla bla...don’t even bother to read what he says now

Course you don’t...

Just a load of bla bla bla...don’t even bother to read what he says now

Course you don’t...

Why not white Christmas, or do you celebrate crossmas??just asking as I hate the word xmas,very crass.

Just a load of bla bla bla...don’t even bother to read what he says now

Course you don’t...

Why not white Christmas, or do you celebrate crossmas??just asking as I hate the word xmas,very crass.

Because I’m not religious and my celebration is family and not religiously motivated.

:laughing6: Nice to see that even though you are now 1 point ahead, you clearly still feel inferior.

At least you know your place I guess...

Fack off Roathy - Ban time coming -

A ban? For correcting mistruths and answering questions??

Please no, that will be awful, it will mean I won’t be able to post again, won’t it...

The most pointless exercise known to man, I will look forward to it

Awful for you as you got no one to converse with? but brilliant for the forum but xmas be over soon and you'll become some other non enterty

Awful for you as you got no one to converse with? but brilliant for the forum but xmas be over soon and you'll become some other non enterty

You keep telling yourself that Al, type it enough and you may even start to believe it...

This hasn’t aged well has it.

What was it? Weeks?

Why did we let Ajayi leave and keep Connelly, looked class and scores goals?

Because we have been terrible at actually bringing through the players from our under 23s for ages now and instead let them go on frees and end up replacing them with inferior players. Ajayi, Oshilaja and Harris are the most recent examples of this but their are more as you go back down the past 10 years. Hopefully Ciaron Brown actually gets a chance for us soon or he will end up being the next one that we let go only to see him flourish elsewhere.

Name them? Name those that have flourished.

Ajayi was from Arsenal. Harris Wycombe.

Name actual Cardiff players from Cardiff’s academy who have left and flourished elsewhere as that is normally the point made not the under 23s. Oshilaja is hardly flourishing.

Well I’m reliably informed that if PNE get promoted this season then Andrew Hughes could become the 1st player to play in Conference south,The National league,League 2 League 1,The championship and then the premier league,would that be considered as flourishing?

That’s one player mate.

Horrible club horrible fans.. no more to be said

Why did we let Ajayi leave and keep Connelly, looked class and scores goals?

Because we have been terrible at actually bringing through the players from our under 23s for ages now and instead let them go on frees and end up replacing them with inferior players. Ajayi, Oshilaja and Harris are the most recent examples of this but their are more as you go back down the past 10 years. Hopefully Ciaron Brown actually gets a chance for us soon or he will end up being the next one that we let go only to see him flourish elsewhere.

Name them? Name those that have flourished.

Ajayi was from Arsenal. Harris Wycombe.

Name actual Cardiff players from Cardiff’s academy who have left and flourished elsewhere as that is normally the point made not the under 23s. Oshilaja is hardly flourishing.

Well I’m reliably informed that if PNE get promoted this season then Andrew Hughes could become the 1st player to play in Conference south,The National league,League 2 League 1,The championship and then the premier league,would that be considered as flourishing?

That’s one player mate.

Wonder how many of their youngsters actually started at swansea and not imported from other clubs? Yes had success no doubt but past couple of seasons they've bought in youngsters and put them in under 23 team then onto team to be sold on .. but it's a better system than ours at present thats for sure

Why did we let Ajayi leave and keep Connelly, looked class and scores goals?

Because we have been terrible at actually bringing through the players from our under 23s for ages now and instead let them go on frees and end up replacing them with inferior players. Ajayi, Oshilaja and Harris are the most recent examples of this but their are more as you go back down the past 10 years. Hopefully Ciaron Brown actually gets a chance for us soon or he will end up being the next one that we let go only to see him flourish elsewhere.

Name them? Name those that have flourished.

Ajayi was from Arsenal. Harris Wycombe.

Name actual Cardiff players from Cardiff’s academy who have left and flourished elsewhere as that is normally the point made not the under 23s. Oshilaja is hardly flourishing.

Well I’m reliably informed that if PNE get promoted this season then Andrew Hughes could become the 1st player to play in Conference south,The National league,League 2 League 1,The championship and then the premier league,would that be considered as flourishing?

That’s one player mate.

Wonder how many of their youngsters actually started at swansea and not imported from other clubs? Yes had success no doubt but past couple of seasons they've bought in youngsters and put them in under 23 team then onto team to be sold on .. but it's a better system than ours at present thats for sure

This season?

Connor Roberts
Joe Rodon
Ben Cabango
Jack Evans

Probably £40m worth of players in that 4. Add another £10m when Cabango gets more established, he’s fantastic and possibly has more potential than them all.

But of course we have had a steady stream of youth products for a while now.

Why did we let Ajayi leave and keep Connelly, looked class and scores goals?

Because we have been terrible at actually bringing through the players from our under 23s for ages now and instead let them go on frees and end up replacing them with inferior players. Ajayi, Oshilaja and Harris are the most recent examples of this but their are more as you go back down the past 10 years. Hopefully Ciaron Brown actually gets a chance for us soon or he will end up being the next one that we let go only to see him flourish elsewhere.

Name them? Name those that have flourished.

Ajayi was from Arsenal. Harris Wycombe.

Name actual Cardiff players from Cardiff’s academy who have left and flourished elsewhere as that is normally the point made not the under 23s. Oshilaja is hardly flourishing.

Well I’m reliably informed that if PNE get promoted this season then Andrew Hughes could become the 1st player to play in Conference south,The National league,League 2 League 1,The championship and then the premier league,would that be considered as flourishing?

That’s one player mate.

Wonder how many of their youngsters actually started at swansea and not imported from other clubs? Yes had success no doubt but past couple of seasons they've bought in youngsters and put them in under 23 team then onto team to be sold on .. but it's a better system than ours at present thats for sure

This season?

Connor Roberts
Joe Rodon
Ben Cabango
Jack Evans

Probably £40m worth of players in that 4. Add another £10m when Cabango gets more established, he’s fantastic and possibly has more potential than them all.

But of course we have had a steady stream of youth products for a while now.

So plenty of money for the yanks to bank next season when they sell couple of them as normal..

Horrible club, horrible fans

Why did we let Ajayi leave and keep Connelly, looked class and scores goals?

Because we have been terrible at actually bringing through the players from our under 23s for ages now and instead let them go on frees and end up replacing them with inferior players. Ajayi, Oshilaja and Harris are the most recent examples of this but their are more as you go back down the past 10 years. Hopefully Ciaron Brown actually gets a chance for us soon or he will end up being the next one that we let go only to see him flourish elsewhere.

Name them? Name those that have flourished.

Ajayi was from Arsenal. Harris Wycombe.

Name actual Cardiff players from Cardiff’s academy who have left and flourished elsewhere as that is normally the point made not the under 23s. Oshilaja is hardly flourishing.

Well I’m reliably informed that if PNE get promoted this season then Andrew Hughes could become the 1st player to play in Conference south,The National league,League 2 League 1,The championship and then the premier league,would that be considered as flourishing?

That’s one player mate.

Wonder how many of their youngsters actually started at swansea and not imported from other clubs? Yes had success no doubt but past couple of seasons they've bought in youngsters and put them in under 23 team then onto team to be sold on .. but it's a better system than ours at present thats for sure

This season?

Connor Roberts
Joe Rodon
Ben Cabango
Jack Evans

Probably £40m worth of players in that 4. Add another £10m when Cabango gets more established, he’s fantastic and possibly has more potential than them all.

But of course we have had a steady stream of youth products for a while now.

So plenty of money for the yanks to bank next season when they sell couple of them as normal..

Ps cabango was picked up by newports academy from a local Cardiff team , stayed with them for 2yrs before signing for Swansea

All gone very quiet on here lately.

Hmmmmm

All gone very quiet on here lately .......Hmmmmm. Yes, very quiet, but for a different reason methinks

Why did we let Ajayi leave and keep Connelly, looked class and scores goals?

Because we have been terrible at actually bringing through the players from our under 23s for ages now and instead let them go on frees and end up replacing them with inferior players. Ajayi, Oshilaja and Harris are the most recent examples of this but their are more as you go back down the past 10 years. Hopefully Ciaron Brown actually gets a chance for us soon or he will end up being the next one that we let go only to see him flourish elsewhere.

Name them? Name those that have flourished.

Ajayi was from Arsenal. Harris Wycombe.

Name actual Cardiff players from Cardiff’s academy who have left and flourished elsewhere as that is normally the point made not the under 23s. Oshilaja is hardly flourishing.

Well I’m reliably informed that if PNE get promoted this season then Andrew Hughes could become the 1st player to play in Conference south,The National league,League 2 League 1,The championship and then the premier league,would that be considered as flourishing?

That’s one player mate.

Wonder how many of their youngsters actually started at swansea and not imported from other clubs? Yes had success no doubt but past couple of seasons they've bought in youngsters and put them in under 23 team then onto team to be sold on .. but it's a better system than ours at present thats for sure

This season?

Connor Roberts
Joe Rodon
Ben Cabango
Jack Evans

Probably £40m worth of players in that 4. Add another £10m when Cabango gets more established, he’s fantastic and possibly has more potential than them all.

But of course we have had a steady stream of youth products for a while now.

So plenty of money for the yanks to bank next season when they sell couple of them as normal..

Ps cabango was picked up by newports academy from a local Cardiff team , stayed with them for 2yrs before signing for Swansea

and thats the problem, why didn't Cardiff pick him up ?
Brandon Cooper ,Bridgend lad again the same question ,


My understanding is the whole purpose of any academy is to furnish the 1st team and those who are either good enough to to be sold at premium price ie: Dan James McBurnie, Joe Allan , Ben Davies , Shaun McDonald ,Jazz Richards .
The next batch who will make the next step either as a 1st team regular or sold at a profit will be
Joe Rodon
Ben Cabango
Jack Evans
then as long as he continue to progresses as he has been is Tivonge Rushesha .
its a pity Cardiff don't have the same philosphoy when it comes to scouting loacl talent and development
Cardiff have a development centre at Play football in Swansea so it can't be said there isn't a Club precence there

Why did we let Ajayi leave and keep Connelly, looked class and scores goals?

Because we have been terrible at actually bringing through the players from our under 23s for ages now and instead let them go on frees and end up replacing them with inferior players. Ajayi, Oshilaja and Harris are the most recent examples of this but their are more as you go back down the past 10 years. Hopefully Ciaron Brown actually gets a chance for us soon or he will end up being the next one that we let go only to see him flourish elsewhere.

Name them? Name those that have flourished.

Ajayi was from Arsenal. Harris Wycombe.

Name actual Cardiff players from Cardiff’s academy who have left and flourished elsewhere as that is normally the point made not the under 23s. Oshilaja is hardly flourishing.

Well I’m reliably informed that if PNE get promoted this season then Andrew Hughes could become the 1st player to play in Conference south,The National league,League 2 League 1,The championship and then the premier league,would that be considered as flourishing?

That’s one player mate.

Wonder how many of their youngsters actually started at swansea and not imported from other clubs? Yes had success no doubt but past couple of seasons they've bought in youngsters and put them in under 23 team then onto team to be sold on .. but it's a better system than ours at present thats for sure

This season?

Connor Roberts
Joe Rodon
Ben Cabango
Jack Evans

Probably £40m worth of players in that 4. Add another £10m when Cabango gets more established, he’s fantastic and possibly has more potential than them all.

But of course we have had a steady stream of youth products for a while now.

So plenty of money for the yanks to bank next season when they sell couple of them as normal..

Ps cabango was picked up by newports academy from a local Cardiff team , stayed with them for 2yrs before signing for Swansea

and thats the problem, why didn't Cardiff pick him up ?
Brandon Cooper ,Bridgend lad again the same question ,


My understanding is the whole purpose of any academy is to furnish the 1st team and those who are either good enough to to be sold at premium price ie: Dan James McBurnie, Joe Allan , Ben Davies , Shaun McDonald ,Jazz Richards .
The next batch who will make the next step either as a 1st team regular or sold at a profit will be
Joe Rodon
Ben Cabango
Jack Evans
then as long as he continue to progresses as he has been is Tivonge Rushesha .
its a pity Cardiff don't have the same philosphoy when it comes to scouting loacl talent and development
Cardiff have a development centre at Play football in Swansea so it can't be said there isn't a Club precence there

No idea why but suspect it's the philosophy of club from beginning maybe one day things will change.. after all our club have 3 house of sports a massive indoor centre and when nuisance neighbour's shut up will have shared sports training centre alongside WRU down vale .... I was told by Swan's fan several months ago category 1 status will be gone due to costs... this was also in news awhile back

Why did we let Ajayi leave and keep Connelly, looked class and scores goals?

Because we have been terrible at actually bringing through the players from our under 23s for ages now and instead let them go on frees and end up replacing them with inferior players. Ajayi, Oshilaja and Harris are the most recent examples of this but their are more as you go back down the past 10 years. Hopefully Ciaron Brown actually gets a chance for us soon or he will end up being the next one that we let go only to see him flourish elsewhere.

Name them? Name those that have flourished.

Ajayi was from Arsenal. Harris Wycombe.

Name actual Cardiff players from Cardiff’s academy who have left and flourished elsewhere as that is normally the point made not the under 23s. Oshilaja is hardly flourishing.

Well I’m reliably informed that if PNE get promoted this season then Andrew Hughes could become the 1st player to play in Conference south,The National league,League 2 League 1,The championship and then the premier league,would that be considered as flourishing?

That’s one player mate.

Wonder how many of their youngsters actually started at swansea and not imported from other clubs? Yes had success no doubt but past couple of seasons they've bought in youngsters and put them in under 23 team then onto team to be sold on .. but it's a better system than ours at present thats for sure

This season?

Connor Roberts
Joe Rodon
Ben Cabango
Jack Evans

Probably £40m worth of players in that 4. Add another £10m when Cabango gets more established, he’s fantastic and possibly has more potential than them all.

But of course we have had a steady stream of youth products for a while now.

at the end of the day ,the more money you get from academy players, the more is squandered...surely the idea was to help keep you in the prem ?