Disgusting Welcome for our New Manager

go on, ill bite.. what sort of criteria puts AT LEAST 35 clubs bigger than us.

History, achievements, following, top flight seasons, trophy wins in living memory, global interest, self generated financial income....

Do I go on?

can I have the equation { the process of how its worked out accurately }

dont bother with the speech, as just want the equation so I can agree with you ..or not.

You underestimate the club you supposedly support but think so little of.

Cardiff has grown over the last 15 years into a big club .

It is a very attractive job for any manager other than the big big names. Why would you think Derby and Rangers can attract the likes of Gerrard and Lampard but we couldn't?

I agree with this and the OP clearly understates the stature of this club. He also underestimates the number of 'quality' managers currently out of work and itching for a shot at proving the doubters wrong

The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to think City's decision makers have been a little smart in their thinking by appointing a manager who can work with the style of player we currently have

I'm going to give him a chance and I will get behind the team as vociferously as I always do in the hope that Neil 'Arris can get thusxseasin back on track

It's a gamble, but I agree they have gone for continuity, and tried to appoint a Manager who can acheive with the set of players we have, he gets my support and he did a very good job at Millwall on a poor budget with an inferior set of players!

can I have the equation { the process of how its worked out accurately }

dont bother with the speech, as just want the equation so I can agree with you ..or not.

There is no equation. There is just a whole host of factors to consider, which Cardiff fans rarely like to do (or at least ones on this forum specifically if I was to be fair) some of which are obviously more important than others. I would put you between 25-30th, so don’t think he is too far wide of the mark by saying 35th or whatever it was.

I would be very interested in seeing your list though. I notice you were very reluctant to say whether you did actually think Cardiff was a bigger club than Middlesborough on the other thread.

I agree with the OP, for so called fans to write off our new manager before he's even had a training session and with such vitriol is shocking.

As for those saying we are a big club.... Wake up there are at least 35 clubs bigger than us just in England never mind on a world level.

I travel a lot in Germany and Belgium with work and nobody knows us.

go on, ill bite.. what sort of criteria puts AT LEAST 35 clubs bigger than us.

I don't think the number of trophies won decides what makes a big club. I have never thought of Leicester, Blackburn or even Nottingham Forest as big clubs, even though they have all won some big competitions during my time of following the game. The big clubs are fairly obvious and I think most know who they would be. I think of us as a medium size club with some potential, but we would need a prolonged stay in the PL if we are ever to get close to realising that potential. I agree with the poster who said there are plenty of people living overseas who have never heard of us, but that is not surprising, I spend a few months most years in the States, and there are people there who have never even heard of Wales, and many of the ones who have heard of us think Wales is somewhere in England.

That's because the yanks are dumb on geography, learn of nothing outside their borders,except Mexico and canada (due to proximity) they call the UK england ffs.That's down to ignorance on their behalf.

We are by no means a big club.
You can not compare us size wise to Rangers for instance.
A club like Everton are a big club, no success since the 80s and an FA Cup win mid 90s, but still sell out 40,000 every Saturday.
We are a mid sized Championship size club. We will need 10/15 years in the Premier League with continued cup success before we are considered as a reasonably sized club