The 'Ion' Political Threads (Merged)

that is why today's students are in so much debt, the lib dems voted to increase their fees,now they are trying to gain their vote, they are all liars.

It’s not debt it’s a tax.

Students should pay for further education.

that is why today's students are in so much debt, the lib dems voted to increase their fees,now they are trying to gain their vote, they are all liars.

It’s not debt it’s a tax.

Students should pay for further education.

Why ? Surely in a first world country we should want our kids to be educated ?

Taxing ALL students whatever their financial situation merely takes a university/college education back to the people with inherited money.

that is why today's students are in so much debt, the lib dems voted to increase their fees,now they are trying to gain their vote, they are all liars.

It’s not debt it’s a tax.

Students should pay for further education.

Why ? Surely in a first world country we should want our kids to be educated ?

Taxing ALL students whatever their financial situation merely takes a university/college education back to the people with inherited money.

No it doesn’t at all. Stats show loads of under privileged children going to uni on the back of student loans.

It’s a tax on future earnings only payable back once earning above a certain threshold.

It would be great to afford it but sadly the country cannot afford it.

I strongly believe degrees in medicine, nursing and sciences should be free and the rest pay more to cover.

that is why today's students are in so much debt, the lib dems voted to increase their fees,now they are trying to gain their vote, they are all liars.

It’s not debt it’s a tax.

Students should pay for further education.

Why ? Surely in a first world country we should want our kids to be educated ?

Taxing ALL students whatever their financial situation merely takes a university/college education back to the people with inherited money.

no mate .
you do not have to pay anything back unless your earning enough...

Amazed me for years how this is tolerated..as if the statements they make never happened. Until they’re sacked for misleading the public, it’ll never change.

Everything is in ‘Yes Minister’ and the sequel.

They appear, BBC, to have taken "Yes Prime minster" off. One of BBC's half decent comedy input but so, so, so true. The Civil service guys must be wanking vigorously for Corbyn and his morons, a few years of fill yer boots

that is why today's students are in so much debt, the lib dems voted to increase their fees,now they are trying to gain their vote, they are all liars.

It’s not debt it’s a tax.

Students should pay for further education.

Why ? Surely in a first world country we should want our kids to be educated ?

Taxing ALL students whatever their financial situation merely takes a university/college education back to the people with inherited money.

No it doesn’t at all. Stats show loads of under privileged children going to uni on the back of student loans.

It’s a tax on future earnings only payable back once earning above a certain threshold.

It would be great to afford it but sadly the country cannot afford it.

I strongly believe degrees in medicine, nursing and sciences should be free and the rest pay more to cover.

Time to bin useless courses that will not result in a career, shite like interpretive dance, psychology, media studies, gender studies, women’s studies or media etc. STEM subjects are avoided by thick kids, who in truth, are too thick to be in Uni because they’re too difficult.

Corbyn is the most genuine of all the main party leaders. He wants to see wealth distributed downwards, rather than up. Its the people behind him that worry me e.g McDonnel.

that is why today's students are in so much debt, the lib dems voted to increase their fees,now they are trying to gain their vote, they are all liars.

It’s not debt it’s a tax.

Students should pay for further education.

Why ? Surely in a first world country we should want our kids to be educated ?

Taxing ALL students whatever their financial situation merely takes a university/college education back to the people with inherited money.

No it doesn’t at all. Stats show loads of under privileged children going to uni on the back of student loans.

It’s a tax on future earnings only payable back once earning above a certain threshold.

It would be great to afford it but sadly the country cannot afford it.

I strongly believe degrees in medicine, nursing and sciences should be free and the rest pay more to cover.

Nonsense. The number of children from state schools going to University has dropped.

It is almost impossible for kids from working class families to go to the best Universities because they simply cannot afford to live (rent, food, fees etc.). Oxbridge being a prime example of this, where children who go to private schools being 55 times more likely to go.

Corbyn is the most genuine of all the main party leaders. He wants to see wealth distributed downwards, rather than up. Its the people behind him that worry me e.g McDonnel.

Apart from his affinity for terrorists (which is scary albeit blown up (no pun intended) by the press) Corbyn seems a genuinely decent chap. Momentum scare the f**k out of me though. Horrible creatures.

that is why today's students are in so much debt, the lib dems voted to increase their fees,now they are trying to gain their vote, they are all liars.

It’s not debt it’s a tax.

Students should pay for further education.

Why ? Surely in a first world country we should want our kids to be educated ?

Taxing ALL students whatever their financial situation merely takes a university/college education back to the people with inherited money.

No it doesn’t at all. Stats show loads of under privileged children going to uni on the back of student loans.

It’s a tax on future earnings only payable back once earning above a certain threshold.

It would be great to afford it but sadly the country cannot afford it.

I strongly believe degrees in medicine, nursing and sciences should be free and the rest pay more to cover.

Nonsense. The number of children from state schools going to University has dropped.

It is almost impossible for kids from working class families to go to the best Universities because they simply cannot afford to live (rent, food, fees etc.). Oxbridge being a prime example of this, where children who go to private schools being 55 times more likely to go.

That hasn’t changed. Their fees were free they still had to live in the area.

The stats are widespread though. Uni numbers are up from poorer backgrounds. It’s not a loan it’s a tax payable back only when they earn a certain wage.

Fact is many who do useless degrees will never reach this Figure.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... n-48937821

that is why today's students are in so much debt, the lib dems voted to increase their fees,now they are trying to gain their vote, they are all liars.

It’s not debt it’s a tax.

Students should pay for further education.

Why ? Surely in a first world country we should want our kids to be educated ?

Taxing ALL students whatever their financial situation merely takes a university/college education back to the people with inherited money.

No it doesn’t at all. Stats show loads of under privileged children going to uni on the back of student loans.

It’s a tax on future earnings only payable back once earning above a certain threshold.

It would be great to afford it but sadly the country cannot afford it.

I strongly believe degrees in medicine, nursing and sciences should be free and the rest pay more to cover.

Nonsense. The number of children from state schools going to University has dropped.

It is almost impossible for kids from working class families to go to the best Universities because they simply cannot afford to live (rent, food, fees etc.). Oxbridge being a prime example of this, where children who go to private schools being 55 times more likely to go.

That hasn’t changed. Their fees were free they still had to live in the area.

The stats are widespread though. Uni numbers are up from poorer backgrounds. It’s not a loan it’s a tax payable back only when they earn a certain wage.

Fact is many who do useless degrees will never reach this Figure.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... n-48937821

The threshold to start paying your loan back is around 18,000. So, yes you do have to start making a wage but its hardly an amount where you can be self sustainable.

I understand your point regarding London but lets say fee's were abolished. Children from working class families would then be able to use their loan to live in London and therefore have the opportunity to go to the best Universities. Currently these are only viable for the well off. Our politicians tend to come from such Universities, which is why many of them are so out of touch with the working class.

The link only relates to applications to university. The truth is people from state schools attending university is dropping:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/educ ... 68411.html

that is why today's students are in so much debt, the lib dems voted to increase their fees,now they are trying to gain their vote, they are all liars.

It’s not debt it’s a tax.

Students should pay for further education.

Why ? Surely in a first world country we should want our kids to be educated ?

Taxing ALL students whatever their financial situation merely takes a university/college education back to the people with inherited money.

No it doesn’t at all. Stats show loads of under privileged children going to uni on the back of student loans.

It’s a tax on future earnings only payable back once earning above a certain threshold.

It would be great to afford it but sadly the country cannot afford it.

I strongly believe degrees in medicine, nursing and sciences should be free and the rest pay more to cover.

Nonsense. The number of children from state schools going to University has dropped.

It is almost impossible for kids from working class families to go to the best Universities because they simply cannot afford to live (rent, food, fees etc.). Oxbridge being a prime example of this, where children who go to private schools being 55 times more likely to go.

That hasn’t changed. Their fees were free they still had to live in the area.

The stats are widespread though. Uni numbers are up from poorer backgrounds. It’s not a loan it’s a tax payable back only when they earn a certain wage.

Fact is many who do useless degrees will never reach this Figure.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... n-48937821

The threshold to start paying your loan back is around 18,000. So, yes you do have to start making a wage but its hardly an amount where you can be self sustainable.

I understand your point regarding London but lets say fee's were abolished. Children from working class families would then be able to use their loan to live in London and therefore have the opportunity to go to the best Universities. Currently these are only viable for the well off. Our politicians tend to come from such Universities, which is why many of them are so out of touch with the working class.

The link only relates to applications to university. The truth is people from state schools attending university is dropping:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/educ ... 68411.html

You pay back pennies when it’s 18 grand. And it’s over 19 grand from April 2020.

It’s not a bad deal at all. Martin of moneysavingexpert explains it really well.

I will not vote for labour while they promise free uni education for all which is quite simply not sustainable.

Corbyn is the most genuine of all the main party leaders. He wants to see wealth distributed downwards, rather than up. Its the people behind him that worry me e.g McDonnel.

Corbyn said “we’ll smash globalism, capitalism and the EU, yet you claim he’s genuine. He’s a Marxist, a system that’s failed wherever it’s been implemented, and that’s reflected in his economic strategy. No party leader indeed very few politicians are genuine.

Find me a politician who hasnt lied and I'll consider voting for them.

Corbyn is the most genuine of all the main party leaders. He wants to see wealth distributed downwards, rather than up. Its the people behind him that worry me e.g McDonnel.

Apart from his affinity for terrorists (which is scary albeit blown up (no pun intended) by the press) Corbyn seems a genuinely decent chap. Momentum scare the f**k out of me though. Horrible creatures.

genuinely decent chap..
I would have thought inviting convicted members of the IRA to Westminster just 2 weeks after the Brighton bombing put paid to anyone thinking him decent..

Why can't people see Corbyn for what he really is a c**t,I say to people don't vote for him just because your parents always have,put loyalty aside and see him for what he is ,l've voted labour in the past I won't vote for him .

Spurious back channels have always existed between politicians and terrorists,I mean,you've only got to look at Peaky Blinders.

Vote Corbyn out he's a dangerous man

Apparently all our taxes are going up to pay for £60bn of insulation to be put in homes ,Corbyn what a t**t

Spurious back channels have always existed between politicians and terrorists,I mean,you've only got to look at Peaky Blinders.

glad people being blown up amuses you as much as it clearly amused mr genuinely decent..

and yes spurious back channels that at no point involved him...of course deep down you know this

Corbyn is the most genuine of all the main party leaders. He wants to see wealth distributed downwards, rather than up. Its the people behind him that worry me e.g McDonnel.

Apart from his affinity for terrorists (which is scary albeit blown up (no pun intended) by the press) Corbyn seems a genuinely decent chap. Momentum scare the f**k out of me though. Horrible creatures.

genuinely decent chap..
I would have thought inviting convicted members of the IRA to Westminster just 2 weeks after the Brighton bombing put paid to anyone thinking him decent..

I did quantify my statement.

Part of me thinks that Corbyn genuinely just wants peace and when he invited terrorists he did it for positive reasons. He seems to genuinely care.

There was always politicians talking to the terrorists.

As will this tw*t. He’s sold me hook line and sinker that he’s a brexiter.

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Corbyn is the most genuine of all the main party leaders. He wants to see wealth distributed downwards, rather than up. Its the people behind him that worry me e.g McDonnel.

Apart from his affinity for terrorists (which is scary albeit blown up (no pun intended) by the press) Corbyn seems a genuinely decent chap. Momentum scare the f**k out of me though. Horrible creatures.

genuinely decent chap..
I would have thought inviting convicted members of the IRA to Westminster just 2 weeks after the Brighton bombing put paid to anyone thinking him decent..

I did quantify my statement.

Part of me thinks that Corbyn genuinely just wants peace and when he invited terrorists he did it for positive reasons. He seems to genuinely care.

mate how does taking convicted IRA to the Commons TWO WEEKS after the bomb in anyway fit with nice peace loving decent chap...not only this he went on to get arrested in a solidarity protest for one of the bombers..
its not something I could do...you don't just have to be an evil c**t, you have to be a special sort of evil c**t ..or the thickest person alive if you think that's ok..

Corbyn is the most genuine of all the main party leaders. He wants to see wealth distributed downwards, rather than up. Its the people behind him that worry me e.g McDonnel.

Apart from his affinity for terrorists (which is scary albeit blown up (no pun intended) by the press) Corbyn seems a genuinely decent chap. Momentum scare the f**k out of me though. Horrible creatures.

genuinely decent chap..
I would have thought inviting convicted members of the IRA to Westminster just 2 weeks after the Brighton bombing put paid to anyone thinking him decent..

I did quantify my statement.

Part of me thinks that Corbyn genuinely just wants peace and when he invited terrorists he did it for positive reasons. He seems to genuinely care.

mate how does taking convicted IRA to the Commons TWO WEEKS after the bomb in anyway fit with nice peace loving decent chap...not only this he went on to get arrested in a solidarity protest for one of the bombers..
its not something I could do...you don't just have to be an evil c**t, you have to be a special sort of evil c**t ..or the thickest person alive if you think that's ok..

And his invites of Hamas terrorists to Parliament also was very dodgy.

It certainly isn’t clever. However Mo Mowlam credits Corbyn as someone influential in achieving peace in NI.

There's no doubt that the current and recent set of students have been badly let down by the Tory party on student funding. Corbyn has promised to fully fund anything that can so much as win him a vote. In reality he'll have to be a bit more realistic and prioritise. At the moment there's no funding gaps he hasn't promised to fill.

If the current crop of undergraduates think they're best served by a government openly hostile to business and wealth creation they're in for a shock. You'll have less debt but your chances of getting a well paid graduate level stimulating employment opportunity will recede dramatically.

If your not at a red brick / Russell group university then I'd seriously consider whether its worth continuing. As wealth flows out of this country and it will in massive sums, then well paid graduate opportunities will fall hugely. The state will create a few but they'll be public sector jobs that used to be filled with people with 5 C's at O level.

Spurious back channels have always existed between politicians and terrorists,I mean,you've only got to look at Peaky Blinders.

glad people being blown up amuses you as much as it clearly amused mr genuinely decent..

and yes spurious back channels that at no point involved him...of course deep down you know this

Yet quite a few thought he played a part in the peace process and it's always vexed me that they all seem to stop short of calling him out even with parliamentary privilege.The Tory election machine would be all over this if there was any legs in it yet at the moment they seem to be preoccupied suppressing the release of parliamentary committee findings that indicate Russian influence in the brexit vote.It's also emerging that some want to question Dominic Cumming past dealings with the russians too.You know,the guy that runs Boris.