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Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:02 pm
boyo1927 wrote:I am so pleased we got warnock as.put manager he has been brilliant but now is time to go. The performances all.season have been terrible even when we won...the players have been coached put of being decent footballers and looks like they dont believe in Neil anymore. Cannot believe the lack of fight
And none more so than Whyte who was bought as a fast exciting winger Neil seems to be turning him into Lee Peltier mark two. Did we also sign blokes called Nelson and Vaults too they seem to have disappeared.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:04 pm
His post match comments belittle the fans and what we all had to endure today.
We could not string 2 passes together and our centre halves play as if their legs are tied together
And Pack should be renamed Pack goes Back
Glatzel should never be near the first ream and Ward has to play as our number 9 , with Bogle as back up.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:06 pm
His lets not lose and other tactics are costing us dearly? We are still doing dead balls into far post for Morrison or flint to head back everytime...."IT DOESNT WORK" so why not do something different for once! Today played with 2 forwards but actually looked as if didnt have one? Took until injury time to play 2 upfront while we defended.... we never looked like scoring and that is an awful indictment in a derby game that was poor on quality but Swansea had more control when in possession while we were rushed no idea what to do with ball! We just need couple of wins together to be up top but just cannot see us winning more than one game before losing again
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:08 pm
theclaw wrote:Teams getting relagated from the Premiere league are more often than not going to struggle the following year in the championship and now it’s happening to us.
Changing the manager could reap the rewards but could go the other way too.Players are more to blame than Warnock.
Here in lies the problem. Warnock is to blame, his players to suit his tactics. Both of which this year are dire.
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Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:10 pm
Mr Potato wrote:theclaw wrote:Mr Potato wrote:theclaw wrote:For everybody who has voted Yes ( and your quite entitled to by the way) you should state who you would put in his place !
Why? Managers out of work will apply, why do we need to choose? The facts are he has said he’s going, his style and his team are not working.
His status as one of best managers will not change, he worked wonders but all good things come to an end. This is his end.
Why not
Rarely do we get who we want, and it’s not for us to say, we don’t hold the purse strings. However, I don’t know where we’d go after this in terms of playing style but a change is needed.
Totally agree ‘rarely do we get what we want’.
Look I want him to stay and you want him to go - difference in opinions.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:12 pm
theclaw wrote:Mr Potato wrote:theclaw wrote:Mr Potato wrote:theclaw wrote:For everybody who has voted Yes ( and your quite entitled to by the way) you should state who you would put in his place !
Why? Managers out of work will apply, why do we need to choose? The facts are he has said he’s going, his style and his team are not working.
His status as one of best managers will not change, he worked wonders but all good things come to an end. This is his end.
Why not
Rarely do we get who we want, and it’s not for us to say, we don’t hold the purse strings. However, I don’t know where we’d go after this in terms of playing style but a change is needed.
Totally agree ‘rarely do we get what we want’.
Look I want him to stay and you want him to go - difference in opinions.
It’s not about wanting him to go, it’s time for him to go. And you are right, difference if opinions, message-boards would be pretty crap if we all shared the same opinion.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:21 pm
The whole club needs a boost; it’s stale and it’ll get worse before it gets better.
The question should be not whether Warnock should go so much as whether Dalman and Choo should bring in some people off the field/training ground to move this football club into the 21st century on the field, and for those 2 to stay far away from the football side of things
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:30 pm
I'm very torn tbh the man who brought the club and fanbase back together but today was beyond poor we offered nothing and sadly got exactly what we deserved which seems to be a regular now sets us up far too negative and it's starting to cost us more passing today was shocking link up from midfield to strikers was non existent feel for glatsel having to come soo deep to get ball . Arghhh the best football we played this season was when tomlin came on against sheff wed there we just far to inconsistent atm my only question is if warnock went who would take over or who would people want
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:35 pm
Cant keep playing like this, he knows himself he should stand aside.
Massive game today and not one player played for the badge.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:45 pm
I'm afraid it is after that performance. On that showing I think he's lost the dressing room because not one single player put one ounce of effort in. Joe Bennett has been useless all season and yet you let his challenger go to a rival on loan and yes I know he's out for the season now and don't get me going on his love in with Joe Ralls
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:46 pm
In hindsight he should have probably gone in the summer.
I just hope he walks before he is pushed.
The signings have been woefull , and his record of signing strikers is abysmal.
It really has come to the end of the road for his tenure, why wait any longer unless the person they have identified to replace him is not available.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:47 pm
"NEIL WARNOCKS BARMY ARMY"..thousands singing this only a couple of weeks ago. Like a marriage you have to take the bad times and not just the good times. Yes this was a very poor display from city but Warnock above all will know that. Give him time to rectify this and don't call for his head after one derby defeat. We've missed Bamba big time at the back and I'm sure his return will tighten up the back and give the whole team a boost. Let's get behind Warnock and the team and not let the rest of this season deteriorate into a toxic pit of misery!
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:47 pm
A manager is only as good as his signings? I wanted Warnock before the club appointed him, it's time. Thank you Neil City Legend
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:54 pm
Stairway to Merthyr wrote:"NEIL WARNOCKS BARMY ARMY"..thousands singing this only a couple of weeks ago. Like a marriage you have to take the bad times and not just the good times. Yes this was a very poor display from city but Warnock above all will know that. Give him time to rectify this and don't call for his head after one derby defeat. We've missed Bamba big time at the back and I'm sure his return will tighten up the back and give the whole team a boost. Let's get behind Warnock and the team and not let the rest of this season deteriorate into a toxic pit of misery!
Its not the defeat today, the performances have been bereft of any enjoyment for the fans all season and we are poor, very very poor.
We cant string 2 passes together, we cant defend and we have strikers who cant score.
All NW signings.
Whatever is going on behind the scenes I do not know , but something is very, very wrong.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:59 pm
I totally agree.
The whole football set up has been a joke this season.
Signings, tactics, playing style and Warnocks given up in my opinion.
Time to go Neil but thanks for the ride.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:38 pm
Give him to xmas maybe things will turn around if not, should he have a say in who his successor is, personally no
Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:08 pm
Yes we are going backwards this season. We play with no game plan. Looks like quite a few players have lost interest. Been the same all season
Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:25 pm
No, having given it some thought I do not think now is the time for Warnock to go.
IMO the time for Warnock to go has come and gone, that time was at the end of last season. The end of a season in which the Club had given a fantastic account of themselves and fell just short in what was truly a unique season in more ways than one. Warnock's standing amongst fans was high and he had done good things for the Club. It was time to shake hands and move in a new direction but it didn't happen.
There have been so many mistakes which I could go into but what's the point? There is no good dwelling on if's and butts.
We don't need a knee jerk reaction, what should happen now is Warnock should stay in his role until Christmas, himself and the Club should come to an agreement where they agree to a phased parting of the ways in which the Club has 2 months to source and find his successor who can come in and hit the ground running in late December and have the January Transfer Window.
Warnocks agent will then be free to tout him out to Hibs and Hearts and advise them he will be available from January (they are both struggling).
All sounds very straight forward but I believe that such is Warnocks relationship with Dalman and the Club and how much Hibs or Hearts would love to line someone like Warnock up in January that this is a serious possibility.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:37 pm
RV Casual wrote:No, having given it some thought I do not think now is the time for Warnock to go.
IMO the time for Warnock to go has come and gone, that time was at the end of last season. The end of a season in which the Club had given a fantastic account of themselves and fell just short in what was truly a unique season in more ways than one. Warnock's standing amongst fans was high and he had done good things for the Club. It was time to shake hands and move in a new direction but it didn't happen.
There have been so many mistakes which I could go into but what's the point? There is no good dwelling on if's and butts.
We don't need a knee jerk reaction, what should happen now is Warnock should stay in his role until Christmas, himself and the Club should come to an agreement where they agree to a phased parting of the ways in which the Club has 2 months to source and find his successor who can come in and hit the ground running in late December and have the January Transfer Window.
Warnocks agent will then be free to tout him out to Hibs and Hearts and advise them he will be available from January (they are both struggling).
All sounds very straight forward but I believe that such is Warnocks relationship with Dalman and the Club and how much Hibs or Hearts would love to line someone like Warnock up in January that this is a serious possibility.
Yes if going to do it needs to be beginning of dec if got someone lined up? Looking at championship as a whole we are not far away string 3 wins and be up there but that is the problem we dont look like doing that! Bit of a tweak and we will be there abouts, but need a forward thinking person to get best out of players come January.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:38 pm
He billed it as the most important / difficult week.
Personally i was expecting a minimum of 5 points from the 9 on offer.
To finish the week on just 2 is very very concerning. Especially the way we offered up the opposition our goals today and against Milwall.
Last year we were solid with no bite. This year we are still without but but also very leaky too.
Sorry but money cannot be an excuse. Look at our west wales neighbours with thier money problems over the last 12 months.
I dont want to say Warnock out....but the season's stats, including NO AWSY WINS, are showing a very sobering trend
Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:46 pm
rumpo kid wrote:Any reason?
No, it’s just for fun!
Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:57 pm
Let's keep Neil on till Dec, and give him a good send off.The club should be thinking of alternatives now.
We need to give the new manager the chance to improve the squard in January.
Sadly we have no Director of Football and Cardiff are always poor at forward planning
Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:58 pm
Yes, go now please.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:25 pm
Didn’t he say he consider his position half way through the season?
Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:43 pm
Stated he would go if the fans did not want him to stay well it's quite obvious the vast majority have had enough of the poor performances.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:00 pm
NW has not been the same imo since the Sala stuff...today you would never have guessed we are a Warnock side....no fight or passion.
For me , he will always be a great CCFC manager but it’s time for a change before we get too far off the play offs and also we are playing one way football.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:27 pm
OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:I think it is but we need to find a proper replacement first so it’s worth waiting until the end of season.
You can’t say it’s time for him to go AND say we should wait until the end of the season. We’re 6 pts off both the play offs and relegation places. It’s only 2 wins, a new manager could have that positive effect whereas continuing as we are, it seems more likely that we’ll drop down the table
Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:36 pm
Sven wrote:I voted 'No' but things have to improve by Christmas and I'm sure the manager himself knows that (has even stated that pre-season?)
I’m with you on this one. It’s amazing how quickly so many can turn on the manager though.
Improvement needed fast. Tuesday was a great performance in an attacking sense.
Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:20 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:This is the normal reaction after a defeat. If we were to win our next few games, everyone would be praising him. Too early to be looking at getting shot of him, and who would take his place. Needs to get some results sooner rather than later though, or he will come under pressure.
Well said. I agree
Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:10 pm
Cardiff dyskinesia wrote:OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:I think it is but we need to find a proper replacement first so it’s worth waiting until the end of season.
You can’t say it’s time for him to go AND say we should wait until the end of the season. We’re 6 pts off both the play offs and relegation places. It’s only 2 wins, a new manager could have that positive effect whereas continuing as we are, it seems more likely that we’ll drop down the table

I’m saying if there’s not a ready replacement for him now then it’s pointless sacking him. We keep him until a new manager is available be that January or close season.
People saying ‘get rid now’. That’s ridiculous.
Get it? It’s not difficult.
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