Greta Thunberg my opinion

She is protesting to make the world a healthier and a more sustainable place to live for herself and future generations. What is wrong with that? I really don't understand people who actively try and discourage people from doing the same.
Even if she did take a private jet, the potential environmental benefits of her actions will far out weigh her carbon footprint. Do you expect her to live in a mud hut in the dark and eat grass because she is an environmental activist?

The world naturally heats up and cools down. What is not natural is the rapid rate at which climate change is being accelerated by industry. Both are scientific facts. You can not pick and choose when to use science to suit your opinion. The majority of global emissions are produced by a small number of companies. If they weren't so profit driven, or if governments were more willing to impose sanctions on those companies or if more investment was made into renewable energy sources, it would have massive beneficial impacts on the environment. It would definitely have more of an impact than the average person recycling yogurt pots and cycling to work. But money talks.

The emphasis the younger generations are putting into sustainability is urgently needed and will only be a good thing in the long run. If you feel that change is not needed and are perfectly happy for companies to burn fossil fuels, pump massive amounts of CO2 into the environment and to cut down rainforests for massive profit then you are part of the problem and are the reason why she is blaming the older generations for not doing enough.

Of all the things you see in the news at the moment that make you angry, I don't think a child protesting for sustainability should be at the top of the list.

The environmental benefits of her actions?

Which actions are these? given a president a deathly stare?

Yes mate. The ultimate aim of her environmental campaign was to do that. Absolute tool. Have a read what she stands for and how it would benefit the environment. Don’t think too hard though, don’t hurt yourself.

You cant argue with stupid, all these people see is someone younger than them telling them they're wrong and they're the problem and they dont like it, its hilarious how older people get riled up like this.

She is protesting to make the world a healthier and a more sustainable place to live for herself and future generations. What is wrong with that? I really don't understand people who actively try and discourage people from doing the same.
Even if she did take a private jet, the potential environmental benefits of her actions will far out weigh her carbon footprint. Do you expect her to live in a mud hut in the dark and eat grass because she is an environmental activist?

The world naturally heats up and cools down. What is not natural is the rapid rate at which climate change is being accelerated by industry. Both are scientific facts. You can not pick and choose when to use science to suit your opinion. The majority of global emissions are produced by a small number of companies. If they weren't so profit driven, or if governments were more willing to impose sanctions on those companies or if more investment was made into renewable energy sources, it would have massive beneficial impacts on the environment. It would definitely have more of an impact than the average person recycling yogurt pots and cycling to work. But money talks.

The emphasis the younger generations are putting into sustainability is urgently needed and will only be a good thing in the long run. If you feel that change is not needed and are perfectly happy for companies to burn fossil fuels, pump massive amounts of CO2 into the environment and to cut down rainforests for massive profit then you are part of the problem and are the reason why she is blaming the older generations for not doing enough.

Of all the things you see in the news at the moment that make you angry, I don't think a child protesting for sustainability should be at the top of the list.

The environmental benefits of her actions?

Which actions are these? given a president a deathly stare?

Yes mate. The ultimate aim of her environmental campaign was to do that. Absolute tool. Have a read what she stands for and how it would benefit the environment. Don’t think too hard though, don’t hurt yourself.

You cant argue with stupid, all these people see is someone younger than them telling them they're wrong and they're the problem and they dont like it, its hilarious how older people get riled up like this.

The ultimate aim of extinction rebellion or whatever they’re called is to replace capitalism with Marxism.
The leftist filth in our education system have polluted the minds of their students, it’s quite Orwellian what’s happening.

She is protesting to make the world a healthier and a more sustainable place to live for herself and future generations. What is wrong with that? I really don't understand people who actively try and discourage people from doing the same.
Even if she did take a private jet, the potential environmental benefits of her actions will far out weigh her carbon footprint. Do you expect her to live in a mud hut in the dark and eat grass because she is an environmental activist?

The world naturally heats up and cools down. What is not natural is the rapid rate at which climate change is being accelerated by industry. Both are scientific facts. You can not pick and choose when to use science to suit your opinion. The majority of global emissions are produced by a small number of companies. If they weren't so profit driven, or if governments were more willing to impose sanctions on those companies or if more investment was made into renewable energy sources, it would have massive beneficial impacts on the environment. It would definitely have more of an impact than the average person recycling yogurt pots and cycling to work. But money talks.

The emphasis the younger generations are putting into sustainability is urgently needed and will only be a good thing in the long run. If you feel that change is not needed and are perfectly happy for companies to burn fossil fuels, pump massive amounts of CO2 into the environment and to cut down rainforests for massive profit then you are part of the problem and are the reason why she is blaming the older generations for not doing enough.

Of all the things you see in the news at the moment that make you angry, I don't think a child protesting for sustainability should be at the top of the list.

The environmental benefits of her actions?

Which actions are these? given a president a deathly stare?

Yes mate. The ultimate aim of her environmental campaign was to do that. Absolute tool. Have a read what she stands for and how it would benefit the environment. Don’t think too hard though, don’t hurt yourself.

You cant argue with stupid, all these people see is someone younger than them telling them they're wrong and they're the problem and they dont like it, its hilarious how older people get riled up like this.

The ultimate aim of extinction rebellion or whatever they’re called is to replace capitalism with Marxism.
The leftist filth in our education system have polluted the minds of their students, it’s quite Orwellian what’s happening.

Did someone forget to put their tin foil hat on today

She is protesting to make the world a healthier and a more sustainable place to live for herself and future generations. What is wrong with that? I really don't understand people who actively try and discourage people from doing the same.
Even if she did take a private jet, the potential environmental benefits of her actions will far out weigh her carbon footprint. Do you expect her to live in a mud hut in the dark and eat grass because she is an environmental activist?

The world naturally heats up and cools down. What is not natural is the rapid rate at which climate change is being accelerated by industry. Both are scientific facts. You can not pick and choose when to use science to suit your opinion. The majority of global emissions are produced by a small number of companies. If they weren't so profit driven, or if governments were more willing to impose sanctions on those companies or if more investment was made into renewable energy sources, it would have massive beneficial impacts on the environment. It would definitely have more of an impact than the average person recycling yogurt pots and cycling to work. But money talks.

The emphasis the younger generations are putting into sustainability is urgently needed and will only be a good thing in the long run. If you feel that change is not needed and are perfectly happy for companies to burn fossil fuels, pump massive amounts of CO2 into the environment and to cut down rainforests for massive profit then you are part of the problem and are the reason why she is blaming the older generations for not doing enough.

Of all the things you see in the news at the moment that make you angry, I don't think a child protesting for sustainability should be at the top of the list.

The environmental benefits of her actions?

Which actions are these? given a president a deathly stare?

Yes mate. The ultimate aim of her environmental campaign was to do that. Absolute tool. Have a read what she stands for and how it would benefit the environment. Don’t think too hard though, don’t hurt yourself.

Do you mean what the people running her stand for?

Shes a mouthpiece mate, nothing more.

She is protesting to make the world a healthier and a more sustainable place to live for herself and future generations. What is wrong with that? I really don't understand people who actively try and discourage people from doing the same.
Even if she did take a private jet, the potential environmental benefits of her actions will far out weigh her carbon footprint. Do you expect her to live in a mud hut in the dark and eat grass because she is an environmental activist?

The world naturally heats up and cools down. What is not natural is the rapid rate at which climate change is being accelerated by industry. Both are scientific facts. You can not pick and choose when to use science to suit your opinion. The majority of global emissions are produced by a small number of companies. If they weren't so profit driven, or if governments were more willing to impose sanctions on those companies or if more investment was made into renewable energy sources, it would have massive beneficial impacts on the environment. It would definitely have more of an impact than the average person recycling yogurt pots and cycling to work. But money talks.

The emphasis the younger generations are putting into sustainability is urgently needed and will only be a good thing in the long run. If you feel that change is not needed and are perfectly happy for companies to burn fossil fuels, pump massive amounts of CO2 into the environment and to cut down rainforests for massive profit then you are part of the problem and are the reason why she is blaming the older generations for not doing enough.

Of all the things you see in the news at the moment that make you angry, I don't think a child protesting for sustainability should be at the top of the list.

The environmental benefits of her actions?

Which actions are these? given a president a deathly stare?

Yes mate. The ultimate aim of her environmental campaign was to do that. Absolute tool. Have a read what she stands for and how it would benefit the environment. Don’t think too hard though, don’t hurt yourself.

You cant argue with stupid, all these people see is someone younger than them telling them they're wrong and they're the problem and they dont like it, its hilarious how older people get riled up like this.

The ultimate aim of extinction rebellion or whatever they’re called is to replace capitalism with Marxism.
The leftist filth in our education system have polluted the minds of their students, it’s quite Orwellian what’s happening.

Did someone forget to put their tin foil hat on today

Greta didn’t know what the Antifa teeshirt she borrowed was all about Bwhahahahaha perhaps she should have asked the Marxist filth who raised her, after all they also wore Antifa clobber. For what it’s worth I care passionately about the environment and do whatever I can. There is a tremendous amount of misinformation out there.

She is protesting to make the world a healthier and a more sustainable place to live for herself and future generations. What is wrong with that? I really don't understand people who actively try and discourage people from doing the same.
Even if she did take a private jet, the potential environmental benefits of her actions will far out weigh her carbon footprint. Do you expect her to live in a mud hut in the dark and eat grass because she is an environmental activist?

The world naturally heats up and cools down. What is not natural is the rapid rate at which climate change is being accelerated by industry. Both are scientific facts. You can not pick and choose when to use science to suit your opinion. The majority of global emissions are produced by a small number of companies. If they weren't so profit driven, or if governments were more willing to impose sanctions on those companies or if more investment was made into renewable energy sources, it would have massive beneficial impacts on the environment. It would definitely have more of an impact than the average person recycling yogurt pots and cycling to work. But money talks.

The emphasis the younger generations are putting into sustainability is urgently needed and will only be a good thing in the long run. If you feel that change is not needed and are perfectly happy for companies to burn fossil fuels, pump massive amounts of CO2 into the environment and to cut down rainforests for massive profit then you are part of the problem and are the reason why she is blaming the older generations for not doing enough.

Of all the things you see in the news at the moment that make you angry, I don't think a child protesting for sustainability should be at the top of the list.

The environmental benefits of her actions?

Which actions are these? given a president a deathly stare?

Yes mate. The ultimate aim of her environmental campaign was to do that. Absolute tool. Have a read what she stands for and how it would benefit the environment. Don’t think too hard though, don’t hurt yourself.

Do you mean what the people running her stand for?

Shes a mouthpiece mate, nothing more.

Who gives a shit, the only thing that matters is the message and everything she said is spot on.

This post has shown who the idiots are.
Sorry but you're a special kind of stupid if you dont think there's a problem with how polluted the planet is and i can guarantee the ones here denying its having an effect on the planet are 40+ year olds that made the problems worse and are continuing to do so.

The 40+ year olds that used brown paper bags rather than plastic, drunk their milk from re-usable glass bottles, took their reusable pop bottles back to the shop for refunds, walked to school or caught a bus, and would have believed mobile phones were science fiction. The list goes on, and on, but I think you will find the older generation knew all about re-cycling, it used to be normal.

This post has shown who the idiots are.
Sorry but you're a special kind of stupid if you dont think there's a problem with how polluted the planet is and i can guarantee the ones here denying its having an effect on the planet are 40+ year olds that made the problems worse and are continuing to do so.

The 40+ year olds that used brown paper bags rather than plastic, drunk their milk from re-usable glass bottles, took their reusable pop bottles back to the shop for refunds, walked to school or caught a bus, and would have believed mobile phones were science fiction. The list goes on, and on, but I think you will find the older generation knew all about re-cycling, it used to be normal.

Stupid argument, its those people that brought in plastic bags, plastic milk bottles, plastic pop bottles, kids still use busses and walk to school what planet are you on?, its your generation thats running these massive corporations and the ones in politics, yeah you lot were so good at recycling thats why theres a massive country sized trash pile in the pacific, its our generation trying to fix your f**k ups.

She is protesting to make the world a healthier and a more sustainable place to live for herself and future generations. What is wrong with that? I really don't understand people who actively try and discourage people from doing the same.
Even if she did take a private jet, the potential environmental benefits of her actions will far out weigh her carbon footprint. Do you expect her to live in a mud hut in the dark and eat grass because she is an environmental activist?

The world naturally heats up and cools down. What is not natural is the rapid rate at which climate change is being accelerated by industry. Both are scientific facts. You can not pick and choose when to use science to suit your opinion. The majority of global emissions are produced by a small number of companies. If they weren't so profit driven, or if governments were more willing to impose sanctions on those companies or if more investment was made into renewable energy sources, it would have massive beneficial impacts on the environment. It would definitely have more of an impact than the average person recycling yogurt pots and cycling to work. But money talks.

The emphasis the younger generations are putting into sustainability is urgently needed and will only be a good thing in the long run. If you feel that change is not needed and are perfectly happy for companies to burn fossil fuels, pump massive amounts of CO2 into the environment and to cut down rainforests for massive profit then you are part of the problem and are the reason why she is blaming the older generations for not doing enough.

Of all the things you see in the news at the moment that make you angry, I don't think a child protesting for sustainability should be at the top of the list.

The environmental benefits of her actions?

Which actions are these? given a president a deathly stare?

Yes mate. The ultimate aim of her environmental campaign was to do that. Absolute tool. Have a read what she stands for and how it would benefit the environment. Don’t think too hard though, don’t hurt yourself.

Do you mean what the people running her stand for?

Shes a mouthpiece mate, nothing more.

That might well be the case Paul. I wouldn't be massively surprised though if she was acting on her own initiative - to some extent anyway. In terms of recycling, renewable energy and low carbon emissions, the Scandinavian countries are miles ahead of the UK and the rest of Europe so their youngsters are far more switched on than we see over here. Whoever is leading the campaign though, the environmental goal will be the same.

This post has shown who the idiots are.
Sorry but you're a special kind of stupid if you dont think there's a problem with how polluted the planet is and i can guarantee the ones here denying its having an effect on the planet are 40+ year olds that made the problems worse and are continuing to do so.

The 40+ year olds that used brown paper bags rather than plastic, drunk their milk from re-usable glass bottles, took their reusable pop bottles back to the shop for refunds, walked to school or caught a bus, and would have believed mobile phones were science fiction. The list goes on, and on, but I think you will find the older generation knew all about re-cycling, it used to be normal.

Stupid argument, its those people that brought in plastic bags, plastic milk bottles, plastic pop bottles, kids still use busses and walk to school what planet are you on?, its your generation thats running these massive corporations and the ones in politics, yeah you lot were so good at recycling thats why theres a massive country sized trash pile in the pacific, its our generation trying to fix your f**k ups.

They don't walk to school where I live. The roads here are clogged up with the mothers and their 4x4's dropping the kids off at school, including my next door neighbour who lives just a quarter of a mile from the school. Perhaps you don't believe that there was a time when most households owned just one car if they were lucky, where milk was delivered and the empties collected for re-use, where us kids played outside rather than spending all our free time using electricity to power our i phones & x boxes. When looking at the problems in today's world, try looking a bit closer to home than blaming everyone bar yourself.

This post has shown who the idiots are.
Sorry but you're a special kind of stupid if you dont think there's a problem with how polluted the planet is and i can guarantee the ones here denying its having an effect on the planet are 40+ year olds that made the problems worse and are continuing to do so.

The 40+ year olds that used brown paper bags rather than plastic, drunk their milk from re-usable glass bottles, took their reusable pop bottles back to the shop for refunds, walked to school or caught a bus, and would have believed mobile phones were science fiction. The list goes on, and on, but I think you will find the older generation knew all about re-cycling, it used to be normal.

Stupid argument, its those people that brought in plastic bags, plastic milk bottles, plastic pop bottles, kids still use busses and walk to school what planet are you on?, its your generation thats running these massive corporations and the ones in politics, yeah you lot were so good at recycling thats why theres a massive country sized trash pile in the pacific, its our generation trying to fix your f**k ups.

They don't walk to school where I live. The roads here are clogged up with the mothers and their 4x4's dropping the kids off at school, including my next door neighbour who lives just a quarter of a mile from the school. Perhaps you don't believe that there was a time when most households owned just one car if they were lucky, where milk was delivered and the empties collected for re-use, where us kids played outside rather than spending all our free time using electricity to power our i phones & x boxes. When looking at the problems in today's world, try looking a bit closer to home than blaming everyone bar yourself.

And there we have it, passing the blame onto the generation that literally had no control over the problems now a generation that were either just kids or not even born yet, who do you think raised our generation, who do you think still runs things its your generation that have the control, its your generation that caused the problems, but you dont care why should you? Youd be dead before shit really hits the fan and we'd be the ones suffering because of it

Last edited by Bluebird1990 on Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.

The amount of doublethink in this thread is incredible

'how dare you criticize this 16 year old child' and in the same breath 'we should listen to this 16 year old child and follow her inexperienced advice on geo-global politics to the letter'

Either she is old and wise enough for us to listen to and therefore open to criticism or she is too young for us too criticize and therefore her opinion is not as robust as it should be and should be treated as such.

Ultimately, it should be the idea that is open to criticism not the delivery. But in this case the delivery of the message - which is very, very stage managed to my eye, seems to be glossing over a significant lack of substance in the actual message.

And with all of those getting upset about the Nazi comparison, first of all Nukes point as I read it is more about the use of innocent young girls in propaganda rather than the ideologies behind it.

However, eco-fascism is a very real thing supported by both the Christchurch and El Paso shooters recently - so let's not get all offended by the suggestion that Nukes has made some previously never seen before link between environmentalism and fascism.

Thunberg is just a media friendly face of the same movement giving it mass legitimacy. Read the policy recommendations in line with her movement and think critically about them. Climate Justice is just the new centre piece to coerce the masses into submission to cede more control to government. Same as fascism, same as Nazism same as communism. Same meat different gravy is all.

Its the classic Hegalian dialectic. Manufacture the enemy and problem, then ride in with panacea to save the world. We've seen it so often throughout history its incredible that 90% of people still fall for it.

Nukes is absolutely correct to see the echoes of the past in the way Thunberg is presented.

Final point is I genuinely feel for Greta as a person. She is a girl whose childhood has been stolen by the ideology of her parents and is now being weaponized.

This post has shown who the idiots are.
Sorry but you're a special kind of stupid if you dont think there's a problem with how polluted the planet is and i can guarantee the ones here denying its having an effect on the planet are 40+ year olds that made the problems worse and are continuing to do so.

The 40+ year olds that used brown paper bags rather than plastic, drunk their milk from re-usable glass bottles, took their reusable pop bottles back to the shop for refunds, walked to school or caught a bus, and would have believed mobile phones were science fiction. The list goes on, and on, but I think you will find the older generation knew all about re-cycling, it used to be normal.

Stupid argument, its those people that brought in plastic bags, plastic milk bottles, plastic pop bottles, kids still use busses and walk to school what planet are you on?, its your generation thats running these massive corporations and the ones in politics, yeah you lot were so good at recycling thats why theres a massive country sized trash pile in the pacific, its our generation trying to fix your f**k ups.

They don't walk to school where I live. The roads here are clogged up with the mothers and their 4x4's dropping the kids off at school, including my next door neighbour who lives just a quarter of a mile from the school. Perhaps you don't believe that there was a time when most households owned just one car if they were lucky, where milk was delivered and the empties collected for re-use, where us kids played outside rather than spending all our free time using electricity to power our i phones & x boxes. When looking at the problems in today's world, try looking a bit closer to home than blaming everyone bar yourself.

Surely it's the parents who are to blame for driving their kids to school then.

This post has shown who the idiots are.
Sorry but you're a special kind of stupid if you dont think there's a problem with how polluted the planet is and i can guarantee the ones here denying its having an effect on the planet are 40+ year olds that made the problems worse and are continuing to do so.

The 40+ year olds that used brown paper bags rather than plastic, drunk their milk from re-usable glass bottles, took their reusable pop bottles back to the shop for refunds, walked to school or caught a bus, and would have believed mobile phones were science fiction. The list goes on, and on, but I think you will find the older generation knew all about re-cycling, it used to be normal.

Stupid argument, its those people that brought in plastic bags, plastic milk bottles, plastic pop bottles, kids still use busses and walk to school what planet are you on?, its your generation thats running these massive corporations and the ones in politics, yeah you lot were so good at recycling thats why theres a massive country sized trash pile in the pacific, its our generation trying to fix your f**k ups.

They don't walk to school where I live. The roads here are clogged up with the mothers and their 4x4's dropping the kids off at school, including my next door neighbour who lives just a quarter of a mile from the school. Perhaps you don't believe that there was a time when most households owned just one car if they were lucky, where milk was delivered and the empties collected for re-use, where us kids played outside rather than spending all our free time using electricity to power our i phones & x boxes. When looking at the problems in today's world, try looking a bit closer to home than blaming everyone bar yourself.

And there we have it, passing the blame onto the generation that literally had no control over the problems now a generation that were either just kids or bot even born yet, who do you think raised our generation, its your generation that have the control, its your generation that caused the problems, but you dont care why should you? Youd be dead before shit really hits the fan and we'd be the ones suffering because of it

Plastic bags for example, were invented back before even my time. However, they only became popularly used in stores in the late 70's and 80's. I would guess that is closer to your generation rather then mine. Not really relevant when something was invented, more important is when they became mass produced and brought into global use. Look how long ago the car was invented, yet it has only become a pollution problem in recent years. Easy to blame a particular generation despite it being everyone's problem. I doubt if your generation have not used plastic bags or cars in their lifetime, and I would guess that they are just as much to blame as anyone else for the pollution that is going on. I have seen people of all ages dropping litter, and have often seen younger people throwing their fast food cartons out of their car windows.

This post has shown who the idiots are.
Sorry but you're a special kind of stupid if you dont think there's a problem with how polluted the planet is and i can guarantee the ones here denying its having an effect on the planet are 40+ year olds that made the problems worse and are continuing to do so.

The 40+ year olds that used brown paper bags rather than plastic, drunk their milk from re-usable glass bottles, took their reusable pop bottles back to the shop for refunds, walked to school or caught a bus, and would have believed mobile phones were science fiction. The list goes on, and on, but I think you will find the older generation knew all about re-cycling, it used to be normal.

Stupid argument, its those people that brought in plastic bags, plastic milk bottles, plastic pop bottles, kids still use busses and walk to school what planet are you on?, its your generation thats running these massive corporations and the ones in politics, yeah you lot were so good at recycling thats why theres a massive country sized trash pile in the pacific, its our generation trying to fix your f**k ups.

They don't walk to school where I live. The roads here are clogged up with the mothers and their 4x4's dropping the kids off at school, including my next door neighbour who lives just a quarter of a mile from the school. Perhaps you don't believe that there was a time when most households owned just one car if they were lucky, where milk was delivered and the empties collected for re-use, where us kids played outside rather than spending all our free time using electricity to power our i phones & x boxes. When looking at the problems in today's world, try looking a bit closer to home than blaming everyone bar yourself.

And there we have it, passing the blame onto the generation that literally had no control over the problems now a generation that were either just kids or not even born yet, who do you think raised our generation, who do you think still runs things its your generation that have the control, its your generation that caused the problems, but you dont care why should you? Youd be dead before shit really hits the fan and we'd be the ones suffering because of it

Why should we care, perhaps because we have kids and grandkids we love more than anything else. You seem to be laying the blame for the actions of corrupt politicians and multinationals on ordinary people. I recycle, I was heavily involved in planting 2,000 saplings, I eat less meat than I did, I’ve built an eco house with PV panels and an ASHP. WTF have you done?

This post has shown who the idiots are.
Sorry but you're a special kind of stupid if you dont think there's a problem with how polluted the planet is and i can guarantee the ones here denying its having an effect on the planet are 40+ year olds that made the problems worse and are continuing to do so.

The 40+ year olds that used brown paper bags rather than plastic, drunk their milk from re-usable glass bottles, took their reusable pop bottles back to the shop for refunds, walked to school or caught a bus, and would have believed mobile phones were science fiction. The list goes on, and on, but I think you will find the older generation knew all about re-cycling, it used to be normal.

Stupid argument, its those people that brought in plastic bags, plastic milk bottles, plastic pop bottles, kids still use busses and walk to school what planet are you on?, its your generation thats running these massive corporations and the ones in politics, yeah you lot were so good at recycling thats why theres a massive country sized trash pile in the pacific, its our generation trying to fix your f**k ups.

They don't walk to school where I live. The roads here are clogged up with the mothers and their 4x4's dropping the kids off at school, including my next door neighbour who lives just a quarter of a mile from the school. Perhaps you don't believe that there was a time when most households owned just one car if they were lucky, where milk was delivered and the empties collected for re-use, where us kids played outside rather than spending all our free time using electricity to power our i phones & x boxes. When looking at the problems in today's world, try looking a bit closer to home than blaming everyone bar yourself.

Surely it's the parents who are to blame for driving their kids to school then.

l agree.

This post has shown who the idiots are.
Sorry but you're a special kind of stupid if you dont think there's a problem with how polluted the planet is and i can guarantee the ones here denying its having an effect on the planet are 40+ year olds that made the problems worse and are continuing to do so.

The 40+ year olds that used brown paper bags rather than plastic, drunk their milk from re-usable glass bottles, took their reusable pop bottles back to the shop for refunds, walked to school or caught a bus, and would have believed mobile phones were science fiction. The list goes on, and on, but I think you will find the older generation knew all about re-cycling, it used to be normal.

Stupid argument, its those people that brought in plastic bags, plastic milk bottles, plastic pop bottles, kids still use busses and walk to school what planet are you on?, its your generation thats running these massive corporations and the ones in politics, yeah you lot were so good at recycling thats why theres a massive country sized trash pile in the pacific, its our generation trying to fix your f**k ups.

They don't walk to school where I live. The roads here are clogged up with the mothers and their 4x4's dropping the kids off at school, including my next door neighbour who lives just a quarter of a mile from the school. Perhaps you don't believe that there was a time when most households owned just one car if they were lucky, where milk was delivered and the empties collected for re-use, where us kids played outside rather than spending all our free time using electricity to power our i phones & x boxes. When looking at the problems in today's world, try looking a bit closer to home than blaming everyone bar yourself.

Surely it's the parents who are to blame for driving their kids to school then.

Yes, and you won't find many parents my age. I was a parent at 23, and was taking my children to school when I was aged around 28 to my mid 30's. I think you will find most parents driving their kids to school are aged less than 40.

Amusing to see how a 16 year old girl has gotten fully grown men so riled up to the point of trying to conflate her with Nazism out of the blue.

To OP saying about how his generation did more to save the environment etc she’s not going after individuals such as yourself but people who have the power to make major change. As an individual you may argue that you were more environmentally friendly, but as a generation the rapid growth and expansion of industries has had a massive effect on the environment and the planet that she and others her age will grow up to face the real consequences of.

Just look how hot it’s been the past few summers ffs

Well said and thank fook there's some on here who are not bitter and talk sense.

No back in the 70s and 80s we never had warm summers did we ? Get a bit of sunshine and the world is coming to end. Get some rain and it’s because the icebergs are crying

Lol

It’s actually the millennials who are causing global warming. There’s too many of them, and they’re wearing nappies until they’re 23..

It’s actually the millennials who are causing global warming. There’s too many of them, and they’re wearing nappies until they’re 23..

I sense micro aggression in your post, I’m retreating to a gender neutral safe space

Hope this link works as I'm with Father Jack on this one.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1493009 ... o&d=n&vh=e

Don't usually find myself agreeing with a lot you come out with Nuclearblue but fair play, interesting post and points made.

1990 you r a door handel

Swedish Climate activist Greta Thunberg has just been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize...

I find it confusing that, when Blue Planet first aired and David Attenborough made an impassioned plea for us to do something about plastic waste many of us listened.

People started using for example refillable water bottles, and using biodegradable single use coffee cups. We listened and acted cos many of us have watched and enjoyed Attenborough's tv programmes and respect someone of his gravitas.

Yet, many people are strangely reluctant to listen to, and acknowledge or accept the view of a 15 year old schoolgirl. Why? I dont know cos she speaks perfect sense to me, and Attenborough agrees with her too.


https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... a-thunberg

Attenborough is a hypocrite.
David Attenborough - "We're running out of time to save the planet."

A personal message to Sir David: You've spent the past half a century amassing a £27M fortune, how have you done this? By jetting all over the world dragging an entourage of cameramen, sound recordists, producers, etc. with you. You are personally accountable for burning hundreds of tons of jet fuel! Factor in the quadrillions of hours that your programmes have clocked up on hundreds of millions of TV sets all across the world and this electricity usage would have taken the contents of several coal mines to generate.

David Attenborough (Productions) Ltd is a gross polluter, easily outstripping the pollution generated by some small undeveloped nations. Prince Charles & the rest of the Saxe-Coburg-Gothas. are always lecturing us about climate change whilst driving Aston Martins, Rollers, Range Rovers and taking up entire jumbo jets or super yachts for pleasure. You're a bit brighter than them Sir David, can't you smell the hypocrisy on yourself? You reek of it!

I find it confusing that, when Blue Planet first aired and David Attenborough made an impassioned plea for us to do something about plastic waste many of us listened.

People started using for example refillable water bottles, and using biodegradable single use coffee cups. We listened and acted cos many of us have watched and enjoyed Attenborough's tv programmes and respect someone of his gravitas.

Yet, many people are strangely reluctant to listen to, and acknowledge or accept the view of a 15 year old schoolgirl. Why? I dont know cos she speaks perfect sense to me, and Attenborough agrees with her too.


https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... a-thunberg

Overuse of plastics and climate change/reduction of CO2 are two very distinct topics which require very different discussions.

The evidence that plastic pollution is bad for the ecosystem is fairly rock solid and we should be doing something about it. Its just commonsense.

The impact of human generated CO2 and its impact on the temperature of the planet is far from settled on the other hand and radical calls for banning air flight, moving to ineffective energy generation such as wind and solar and the reduction of the human population will hit the developing world far harder than anywhere else.

I find it confusing that, when Blue Planet first aired and David Attenborough made an impassioned plea for us to do something about plastic waste many of us listened.

People started using for example refillable water bottles, and using biodegradable single use coffee cups. We listened and acted cos many of us have watched and enjoyed Attenborough's tv programmes and respect someone of his gravitas.

Yet, many people are strangely reluctant to listen to, and acknowledge or accept the view of a 15 year old schoolgirl. Why? I dont know cos she speaks perfect sense to me, and Attenborough agrees with her too.


https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... a-thunberg

Overuse of plastics and climate change/reduction of CO2 are two very distinct topics which require very different discussions.

The evidence that plastic pollution is bad for the ecosystem is fairly rock solid and we should be doing something about it. Its just commonsense.

The impact of human generated CO2 and its impact on the temperature of the planet is far from settled on the other hand and radical calls for banning air flight, moving to ineffective energy generation such as wind and solar and the reduction of the human population will hit the developing world far harder than anywhere else.

Yes they are different discussions, but both are seeking actions to reverse choices we make because the consequences of not taking action (could) cause damage to the planet.

What I'm trying to highlight is the different reactions of some, appear to be based on the age of the speaker.

I find it confusing that, when Blue Planet first aired and David Attenborough made an impassioned plea for us to do something about plastic waste many of us listened.

People started using for example refillable water bottles, and using biodegradable single use coffee cups. We listened and acted cos many of us have watched and enjoyed Attenborough's tv programmes and respect someone of his gravitas.

Yet, many people are strangely reluctant to listen to, and acknowledge or accept the view of a 15 year old schoolgirl. Why? I dont know cos she speaks perfect sense to me, and Attenborough agrees with her too.


https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... a-thunberg

Overuse of plastics and climate change/reduction of CO2 are two very distinct topics which require very different discussions.

The evidence that plastic pollution is bad for the ecosystem is fairly rock solid and we should be doing something about it. Its just commonsense.

The impact of human generated CO2 and its impact on the temperature of the planet is far from settled on the other hand and radical calls for banning air flight, moving to ineffective energy generation such as wind and solar and the reduction of the human population will hit the developing world far harder than anywhere else.

Yes they are different discussions, but both are seeking actions to reverse choices we make because the consequences of not taking action (could) cause damage to the planet.

What I'm trying to highlight is the different reactions of some, appear to be based on the age of the speaker.

But if they're talking about different things then who is saying what is kinda moot. Thunberg is advocating extreme action to fight a bogeyman science has yet to confirm is real. Doesnt matter her age, her message is overly reliant on emotive actions and little reliablly undisputed science. If Attenborough took the same approach on the same topic then he should also be rightly challenged regardless of standing.

For me at least, it is little to do with who is saying it, far more to do with what they are saying.

This post has shown who the idiots are.
Sorry but you're a special kind of stupid if you dont think there's a problem with how polluted the planet is and i can guarantee the ones here denying its having an effect on the planet are 40+ year olds that made the problems worse and are continuing to do so.

Lord give me strength.

Chief all the strength in the world won’t help you with these deluded fools. Obviously he didn’t get someone to read my OP to him so he might understand what I put.I think I did point out that we were a lot more environmentally friendly than these self righteous people ever will be.