Gareth Thomas - HIV

The responses here are an embarrassment to most decent city fans

Which ones?

You, you absolute moron. Guessing from your username you are 35 years old but are not smart enough to not peddle absolute bollocks online.

Hell just a few months back those lesbian girls got beaten up for refusing to kiss each other when asked by men and you question the need for events such as pride which help raise such awareness and show people who are afraid to come out that the vast majority of the rest of us will happily accept them for who they are and not be absolute degenerates such as yourself.

Any need for name calling?
My username has nothing to do with age.

One of those lesbians was a bisexual who could otherwise be raising a family with a man. One less woman means one extra single man. History tells us that a society with too many single men is a bad place to be. So why encourage it?

Do you know the identities of those beating the lesbians? Seems to have been kept quiet for some reason.

So what you’re saying is that it’s okay to beat up lesbians because they could be used to satisfy single men. What a weird person you are.

Also they’re not named as they’re not 18.

The responses here are an embarrassment to most decent city fans

Which ones?

You, you absolute moron. Guessing from your username you are 35 years old but are not smart enough to not peddle absolute bollocks online.

Hell just a few months back those lesbian girls got beaten up for refusing to kiss each other when asked by men and you question the need for events such as pride which help raise such awareness and show people who are afraid to come out that the vast majority of the rest of us will happily accept them for who they are and not be absolute degenerates such as yourself.

Any need for name calling?
My username has nothing to do with age.

One of those lesbians was a bisexual who could otherwise be raising a family with a man. One less woman means one extra single man. History tells us that a society with too many single men is a bad place to be. So why encourage it?

Do you know the identities of those beating the lesbians? Seems to have been kept quiet for some reason.

So what you’re saying is that it’s okay to beat up lesbians because they could be used to satisfy single men. What a weird person you are.

Also they’re not named as they’re not 18.

What a bizarre conclusion, you're clearly not upto this.

I've tried my best to address your points mate not going to lie it did hurt reading them again.

1) Who was your recruiter? Probably multi billionaire George Soros etc - So you think the bloke you're responding to is not actually gay, but has been brainwashed into thinking he's gay by George Soros and the lefties? or is he one of the people who you think is 'born gay' which you reference in your later post? How do you tell the difference by the way I'd love to know.

2) The end result of all this is a move away from the nuclear family and all the dire consequences that follow this. - Gay people are perfectly capable of having a traditional family set up, in fact, unlike the families who are pushing out 4/5 kids and relying on the state/overpopulating the place, gay families often provide care to those who straight families have neglected/been unable to look after (Note, this also happens in the wild, but I'm sure Soros has some kind of Dr Doolittle type power which helps him brainwash the animals too right?)

3) Marxists argue that the nuclear family performs ideological functions for Capitalism – the family acts as a unit of consumption and teaches passive acceptance of hierarchy. It is also the institution through which the wealthy pass down their private property to their children, thus reproducing class inequality. - I'm not going to address this as you copied this from a site which was *cough* not a revision guide *cough*

4) Corbyn's front bench is marxist, most of universities are now riddled with marxist professors. They also see straight white men as fair game for scapegoating. It's happening in America now and coming here soon no doubt. I'm genuinely not sure if you're talking about gay people or what here but the fact you say 'and coming here soon no doubt' implies you're just theorising rather than speaking in terms of any fact

Nonesense lol

All the data shows that a man and woman raising a family provides the children with best outcomes.
I'm not against homosexuality i must stress that.

But if you accept straight or bi men can be swayed. Why encourage it?

Can you provide 'all the data'. Studies seem to show that children from same sex couples fare exactly the same as different sex couples.

Gay men make better mothers Josh?

I've tried my best to address your points mate not going to lie it did hurt reading them again.

1) Who was your recruiter? Probably multi billionaire George Soros etc - So you think the bloke you're responding to is not actually gay, but has been brainwashed into thinking he's gay by George Soros and the lefties? or is he one of the people who you think is 'born gay' which you reference in your later post? How do you tell the difference by the way I'd love to know.

2) The end result of all this is a move away from the nuclear family and all the dire consequences that follow this. - Gay people are perfectly capable of having a traditional family set up, in fact, unlike the families who are pushing out 4/5 kids and relying on the state/overpopulating the place, gay families often provide care to those who straight families have neglected/been unable to look after (Note, this also happens in the wild, but I'm sure Soros has some kind of Dr Doolittle type power which helps him brainwash the animals too right?)

3) Marxists argue that the nuclear family performs ideological functions for Capitalism – the family acts as a unit of consumption and teaches passive acceptance of hierarchy. It is also the institution through which the wealthy pass down their private property to their children, thus reproducing class inequality. - I'm not going to address this as you copied this from a site which was *cough* not a revision guide *cough*

4) Corbyn's front bench is marxist, most of universities are now riddled with marxist professors. They also see straight white men as fair game for scapegoating. It's happening in America now and coming here soon no doubt. I'm genuinely not sure if you're talking about gay people or what here but the fact you say 'and coming here soon no doubt' implies you're just theorising rather than speaking in terms of any fact

Nonesense lol

All the data shows that a man and woman raising a family provides the children with best outcomes.
I'm not against homosexuality i must stress that.

But if you accept straight or bi men can be swayed. Why encourage it?

Can you provide 'all the data'. Studies seem to show that children from same sex couples fare exactly the same as different sex couples.

Gay men make better mothers Josh?

Can you provide 'all the data' or?

I've tried my best to address your points mate not going to lie it did hurt reading them again.

1) Who was your recruiter? Probably multi billionaire George Soros etc - So you think the bloke you're responding to is not actually gay, but has been brainwashed into thinking he's gay by George Soros and the lefties? or is he one of the people who you think is 'born gay' which you reference in your later post? How do you tell the difference by the way I'd love to know.

2) The end result of all this is a move away from the nuclear family and all the dire consequences that follow this. - Gay people are perfectly capable of having a traditional family set up, in fact, unlike the families who are pushing out 4/5 kids and relying on the state/overpopulating the place, gay families often provide care to those who straight families have neglected/been unable to look after (Note, this also happens in the wild, but I'm sure Soros has some kind of Dr Doolittle type power which helps him brainwash the animals too right?)

3) Marxists argue that the nuclear family performs ideological functions for Capitalism – the family acts as a unit of consumption and teaches passive acceptance of hierarchy. It is also the institution through which the wealthy pass down their private property to their children, thus reproducing class inequality. - I'm not going to address this as you copied this from a site which was *cough* not a revision guide *cough*

4) Corbyn's front bench is marxist, most of universities are now riddled with marxist professors. They also see straight white men as fair game for scapegoating. It's happening in America now and coming here soon no doubt. I'm genuinely not sure if you're talking about gay people or what here but the fact you say 'and coming here soon no doubt' implies you're just theorising rather than speaking in terms of any fact

Nonesense lol

All the data shows that a man and woman raising a family provides the children with best outcomes.
I'm not against homosexuality i must stress that.

But if you accept straight or bi men can be swayed. Why encourage it?

Can you provide 'all the data'. Studies seem to show that children from same sex couples fare exactly the same as different sex couples.

Gay men make better mothers Josh?

Can you provide 'all the data' or?

Josh you forgot to log out of your city93 account lol

I've tried my best to address your points mate not going to lie it did hurt reading them again.

1) Who was your recruiter? Probably multi billionaire George Soros etc - So you think the bloke you're responding to is not actually gay, but has been brainwashed into thinking he's gay by George Soros and the lefties? or is he one of the people who you think is 'born gay' which you reference in your later post? How do you tell the difference by the way I'd love to know.

2) The end result of all this is a move away from the nuclear family and all the dire consequences that follow this. - Gay people are perfectly capable of having a traditional family set up, in fact, unlike the families who are pushing out 4/5 kids and relying on the state/overpopulating the place, gay families often provide care to those who straight families have neglected/been unable to look after (Note, this also happens in the wild, but I'm sure Soros has some kind of Dr Doolittle type power which helps him brainwash the animals too right?)

3) Marxists argue that the nuclear family performs ideological functions for Capitalism – the family acts as a unit of consumption and teaches passive acceptance of hierarchy. It is also the institution through which the wealthy pass down their private property to their children, thus reproducing class inequality. - I'm not going to address this as you copied this from a site which was *cough* not a revision guide *cough*

4) Corbyn's front bench is marxist, most of universities are now riddled with marxist professors. They also see straight white men as fair game for scapegoating. It's happening in America now and coming here soon no doubt. I'm genuinely not sure if you're talking about gay people or what here but the fact you say 'and coming here soon no doubt' implies you're just theorising rather than speaking in terms of any fact

Nonesense lol

All the data shows that a man and woman raising a family provides the children with best outcomes.
I'm not against homosexuality i must stress that.

But if you accept straight or bi men can be swayed. Why encourage it?

Can you provide 'all the data'. Studies seem to show that children from same sex couples fare exactly the same as different sex couples.

Gay men make better mothers Josh?

Can you provide 'all the data' or?

Josh you forgot to log out of your city93 account lol

It's not me but answering their question would make a nice change

Your 'all the data' thing was a reply to me so I'm asking you to clarify.

I understand in the strange circles you no doubt inhabit where everyone agrees Soros created gay people it might be rare to have two people disagree with you, but it's actually quite common in the real world to disagree with such bollocks.

I've tried my best to address your points mate not going to lie it did hurt reading them again.

1) Who was your recruiter? Probably multi billionaire George Soros etc - So you think the bloke you're responding to is not actually gay, but has been brainwashed into thinking he's gay by George Soros and the lefties? or is he one of the people who you think is 'born gay' which you reference in your later post? How do you tell the difference by the way I'd love to know.

2) The end result of all this is a move away from the nuclear family and all the dire consequences that follow this. - Gay people are perfectly capable of having a traditional family set up, in fact, unlike the families who are pushing out 4/5 kids and relying on the state/overpopulating the place, gay families often provide care to those who straight families have neglected/been unable to look after (Note, this also happens in the wild, but I'm sure Soros has some kind of Dr Doolittle type power which helps him brainwash the animals too right?)

3) Marxists argue that the nuclear family performs ideological functions for Capitalism – the family acts as a unit of consumption and teaches passive acceptance of hierarchy. It is also the institution through which the wealthy pass down their private property to their children, thus reproducing class inequality. - I'm not going to address this as you copied this from a site which was *cough* not a revision guide *cough*

4) Corbyn's front bench is marxist, most of universities are now riddled with marxist professors. They also see straight white men as fair game for scapegoating. It's happening in America now and coming here soon no doubt. I'm genuinely not sure if you're talking about gay people or what here but the fact you say 'and coming here soon no doubt' implies you're just theorising rather than speaking in terms of any fact

Nonesense lol

All the data shows that a man and woman raising a family provides the children with best outcomes.
I'm not against homosexuality i must stress that.

But if you accept straight or bi men can be swayed. Why encourage it?

Can you provide 'all the data'. Studies seem to show that children from same sex couples fare exactly the same as different sex couples.

Gay men make better mothers Josh?

Can you provide 'all the data' or?

Josh you forgot to log out of your city93 account lol

It's not me but answering their question would make a nice change

Hello Josh, nice to see you back on your main account.
In your opinion do gay men make better mothers?

Nonesense lol

All the data shows that a man and woman raising a family provides the children with best outcomes.
I'm not against homosexuality i must stress that.

But if you accept straight or bi men can be swayed. Why encourage it?

Can you provide 'all the data'. Studies seem to show that children from same sex couples fare exactly the same as different sex couples.

Gay men make better mothers Josh?

Can you provide 'all the data' or?

Josh you forgot to log out of your city93 account lol

It's not me but answering their question would make a nice change

Hello Josh, nice to see you back on your main account.
In your opinion do gay men make better mothers?

Get your tin hat off. I'll answer your question if you answer mine so for the 4th time .... Can you provide 'all the data that shows a that a man and woman raising a family provides the children with best outcomes.' (Hint: Just say "Sorry, there is no evidence and I was wrong in saying that")

The evidence on same sex couples raising children is scant. It's a relatively new phenomenon (for a reason)
Do gay men make better mothers Josh? If you keep avoiding the question people will draw their own conclusion on you lol

Snowflakes everywhere

The evidence on same sex couples raising children is scant. It's a relatively new phenomenon (for a reason)
Do gay men make better mothers Josh? If you keep avoiding the question people will draw their own conclusion on you lol

So just to confirm, you said all the data shows that a man and woman raising a family provides the children with best outcomes yet now you say there isn't enough data on same sex couples so which is it?

And to answer your question. There will be some gay men who are better parents than the childs biological mother and the same vice versa. You can't say all gay men or all women are better as A) there is a broad demographic of both. B) There are too many intangible elements involved with parenthood. C) It's subjective and everyone will have different opinions on different aspects of parenthood. D) Not all gay men or mothers actually want to be parents.

The evidence on same sex couples raising children is scant. It's a relatively new phenomenon (for a reason)
Do gay men make better mothers Josh? If you keep avoiding the question people will draw their own conclusion on you lol

There can't be data

But logically the answer is no

Family needs a balance of a mother and a father

Two men can do their best but can't replace a mother figure

Same as two women

The evidence on same sex couples raising children is scant. It's a relatively new phenomenon (for a reason)
Do gay men make better mothers Josh? If you keep avoiding the question people will draw their own conclusion on you lol

There can't be data

But logically the answer is no

Family needs a balance of a mother and a father

Two men can do their best but can't replace a mother figure

Same as two women

The most successful person I know had no father figure

Was he a referee?

The evidence on same sex couples raising children is scant.

There can't be data

There are plenty of studies into same sex couples raising children. The evidence is not 'scant' and there is plently of data from these studies.

Elyboy as you've proven you're just making shite up as you go along here maybe you should go back to validating the attack of 16/17 year old girls because they could be satisfying single men? Think you were really on to a winner there mate.........

Best of luck to GT....whatever happens in the future , he has shown a lot of courage coming out to start with.
Everybody to their own ....hope he’s ok ..

Snowflakes everywhere

I have no problems making jokes about anything or anyone, gay, straight, religion whatever. What I do have an issue with is people trying to pass complete bollocks as facts about things to try and justify their own insecurities about something

The evidence on same sex couples raising children is scant.

There can't be data

There are plenty of studies into same sex couples raising children. The evidence is not 'scant' and there is plently of data from these studies.

Elyboy as you've proven you're just making shite up as you go along here maybe you should go back to validating the attack of 16/17 year old girls because they could be satisfying single men? Think you were really on to a winner there mate.........

The studies into same sex child rearing are small sample and far too early in this phenomenon. Fact! People should be empiricists, trust your own instincts, don't be brainwashed.

On "research" i will say this, like virtually every aspect of our media, "scientific" research or "social studies" are now corrupted with an inbuilt left wing bias.
Even academics are starting to say this...one of The best head teachers in Britain rejects research based advice on teaching children. She chooses old fashioned tried & tested traditional methods of teaching:- discipline, personal responsibility etc etc...her school is out performing many schools that use teaching methods espoused by "studies" and Guardian readers.
She's an oxbridge educated teacher with little time for "studies" and research from what ive seen.

Academics largely rely on force and fraud for their money and lofty titles.
Government force to protect their monopoly and funding.
Fraud about the economic value of university education.
There's a saying in research. The truth belongs to those funding the study. Which brings me back to socialist governments like ours, Karl Marx, and our friend George Soros.

The evidence on same sex couples raising children is scant. It's a relatively new phenomenon (for a reason)
Do gay men make better mothers Josh? If you keep avoiding the question people will draw their own conclusion on you lol

So just to confirm, you said all the data shows that a man and woman raising a family provides the children with best outcomes yet now you say there isn't enough data on same sex couples so which is it?

And to answer your question. There will be some gay men who are better parents than the childs biological mother and the same vice versa. You can't say all gay men or all women are better as A) there is a broad demographic of both. B) There are too many intangible elements involved with parenthood. C) It's subjective and everyone will have different opinions on different aspects of parenthood. D) Not all gay men or mothers actually want to be parents.

Lol brainwashed.

If I was gay and you were my parent I’d flipping disown you and leave. I dread to think what happens if any of your kids (if you have any or Intend to)are gay or trans or bisexual etc etc. Atleast if you have parents who are either understanding or gay themselves the child will grow up to be non judgemental and a respectful person.

A fellow city fan is seriously ill and you lot are having a pathetic uninformed squabble about same sex parents and gay pride. Get a f*cking grip, you're embarrassing. I hope he doesn't read this forum.

A fellow city fan is seriously ill and you lot are having a pathetic uninformed squabble about same sex parents and gay pride. Get a f*cking grip, you're embarrassing. I hope he doesn't read this forum.

Seriously ill? He has the same life expectancy as us. He just completed an iron man race. lol And you call others embarrassing and uninformed.

I agree that the thread has drifted but that happens in discussion. I have made no direct comment about Gareth Thomas, as he's a city fan and we as City fans have had enough detractors over the years. We should stick together.

A fellow city fan is seriously ill and you lot are having a pathetic uninformed squabble about same sex parents and gay pride. Get a f*cking grip, you're embarrassing. I hope he doesn't read this forum.

Seriously ill? He has the same life expectancy as us. He just completed an iron man race. lol And you call others embarrassing and uninformed.

I agree that the thread has drifted but that happens in discussion. I have made no direct comment about Gareth Thomas, as he's a city fan and we as City fans have had enough detractors over the years. We should stick together.

No of course, HIV is not a serious illness, you're correct. Well done, you won an argument.

The studies into same sex child rearing are small sample and far too early in this phenomenon. Fact! People should be empiricists, trust your own instincts, don't be brainwashed.

On "research" i will say this, like virtually every aspect of our media, "scientific" research or "social studies" are now corrupted with an inbuilt left wing bias.
Even academics are starting to say this...one of The best head teachers in Britain rejects research based advice on teaching children. She chooses old fashioned tried & tested traditional methods of teaching:- discipline, personal responsibility etc etc...her school is out performing many schools that use teaching methods espoused by "studies" and Guardian readers.
She's an oxbridge educated teacher with little time for "studies" and research from what ive seen.

Academics largely rely on force and fraud for their money and lofty titles.
Government force to protect their monopoly and funding.
Fraud about the economic value of university education.
There's a saying in research. The truth belongs to those funding the study. Which brings me back to socialist governments like ours, Karl Marx, and our friend George Soros.

What are you on about! You're the one that mentioned 'data' to begin with to back up your ridiculous arguments! Now you realise the 'data' doesn't back your shitty point up..so you're saying all scientific research is just a lefty conspiracy anyway so it doesn't matter.

You go from using an oxbridge educated academic as a source to back up your argument...straight to 'academics largely rely on force and fraud' in the space of one post.

Genuinely don't think anyone can be so dull and contradictory, so only conclusion is your trolling. Have fun

The studies into same sex child rearing are small sample and far too early in this phenomenon. Fact! People should be empiricists, trust your own instincts, don't be brainwashed.

On "research" i will say this, like virtually every aspect of our media, "scientific" research or "social studies" are now corrupted with an inbuilt left wing bias.
Even academics are starting to say this...one of The best head teachers in Britain rejects research based advice on teaching children. She chooses old fashioned tried & tested traditional methods of teaching:- discipline, personal responsibility etc etc...her school is out performing many schools that use teaching methods espoused by "studies" and Guardian readers.
She's an oxbridge educated teacher with little time for "studies" and research from what ive seen.

Academics largely rely on force and fraud for their money and lofty titles.
Government force to protect their monopoly and funding.
Fraud about the economic value of university education.
There's a saying in research. The truth belongs to those funding the study. Which brings me back to socialist governments like ours, Karl Marx, and our friend George Soros.

What are you on about! You're the one that mentioned 'data' to begin with to back up your ridiculous arguments! Now you realise the 'data' doesn't back your shitty point up..so you're saying all scientific research is just a lefty conspiracy anyway so it doesn't matter.

You go from using an oxbridge educated academic as a source to back up your argument...straight to 'academics largely rely on force and fraud' in the space of one post.

Genuinely don't think anyone can be so dull and contradictory, so only conclusion is your trolling. Have fun

The only reliable data carried out over decades across different nations is data that supports children being raised by married heterosexual couples.
You and Josh are promoting something you know very little about.

An oxbridge graduate and SUCESSFUL Teacher who rejects funded studies in favour of empiricism and tradition. Somebody we can all learn from in these times of fake news and propaganda.

I don't know why you're being so aggressive, i don't believe I'm saying anything controversial or hateful. Just pushing back against the lefts madness because it's going way way too far and damaging society.

nubbsy, it's not a case of "winning" an argument. Just chatting.