Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:20 pm
pembroke allan wrote:epping blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:As time goes on its become very clear that mps are putting self interests before the voters and EU politicians are rejecting anything we ask so that in hope that brexit does not happen! Latest is no to june date but we Will give you a year instead with strings, by giving a year they hope that the mps will
Force a situation where we stay in euro zone or cancel brexit altogether, got to wonder if this was intentions of our politicians in 1st place knowing there was majority in favour of remain in parliament?
Lets be honest its only the tory party that have wanted Brexit and not even all of them. Other than that its a handfuk of Labour MP's prepared to respect the vote of their constituents, the rest have been determined to block any meaningful brexit with their end goal of blocking brexit altogether.
If they'd said that to the electorate in 2017 then fair enough, but they could even be honest with their intensions in the Newport West elections last week. The Labour party are determined to overturn brexit and if they had anounce of integrity they would be honest with the public.
Two things that are odd to say the least! Firstly the referendum result was not binding so was open to be overturned as we are seeing now? Secondly why the fck did may put in a clause (back stop) that she knew udp would not back and without their backing she wouldn't be in power and not a cats in hell chance of passing brexit in parliament ? As it stands there is only two choices leave no deal or go with this one year delay and probably no brexit by end of it as we cannot change anything in the agreement so cannot go forwards unless we stay in the EU trade organisation which means stay under EU trade laws without a say in implementing them and who wants that besides remain MPS ?
Wed Apr 10, 2019 3:26 pm
epping blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:epping blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:As time goes on its become very clear that mps are putting self interests before the voters and EU politicians are rejecting anything we ask so that in hope that brexit does not happen! Latest is no to june date but we Will give you a year instead with strings, by giving a year they hope that the mps will
Force a situation where we stay in euro zone or cancel brexit altogether, got to wonder if this was intentions of our politicians in 1st place knowing there was majority in favour of remain in parliament?
Lets be honest its only the tory party that have wanted Brexit and not even all of them. Other than that its a handfuk of Labour MP's prepared to respect the vote of their constituents, the rest have been determined to block any meaningful brexit with their end goal of blocking brexit altogether.
If they'd said that to the electorate in 2017 then fair enough, but they could even be honest with their intensions in the Newport West elections last week. The Labour party are determined to overturn brexit and if they had anounce of integrity they would be honest with the public.
Two things that are odd to say the least! Firstly the referendum result was not binding so was open to be overturned as we are seeing now? Secondly why the fck did may put in a clause (back stop) that she knew udp would not back and without their backing she wouldn't be in power and not a cats in hell chance of passing brexit in parliament ? As it stands there is only two choices leave no deal or go with this one year delay and probably no brexit by end of it as we cannot change anything in the agreement so cannot go forwards unless we stay in the EU trade organisation which means stay under EU trade laws without a say in implementing them and who wants that besides remain MPS ?
May's strategy is all over the place to be honest. She's seen as having tried to work with and against both sides of the argument. Some would argue it's compromise but in reality it makes her look indecisive and weak. Thatcher would have stuck to her position and by now we'd know where everyone stood even if we didn't agree. She wouldn't have let labour get away with the Remain down south, Leave up north nonsense they still maintain. She still wouldn't have got it over the line but she be in a better position to take it into an election. At the moment May looks done in and we need an election, the sooner the better.
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:15 am
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Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:08 am
pembroke allan wrote:Can see headlines now uk economy falls and
blaming brexit? When in reality its the pathetic MPS looking after their own intetests not the electorate
Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:37 am
epping blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Can see headlines now uk economy falls and
blaming brexit? When in reality its the pathetic MPS looking after their own intetests not the electorate
The majority of MP's are failing to represent the vote of the majority of the people. The majority of MPs clearly want to overturn the decision and Labour should have been honest with the public at the 2017 general election and not said they would respect the vote. They should have stood on a manifesto of wanting to overturn the referendum result in line with the wishes of the majority of their MP's.
Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:21 am
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Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:05 pm
Bluebina wrote:Farage's Brexit Party is going to give the two main parties a right kicking in the European elections !!!!
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:13 pm
epping blue wrote:Bluebina wrote:Farage's Brexit Party is going to give the two main parties a right kicking in the European elections !!!!
Not if you believe that poll out over night. They think labour will do well and predict a kicking for the tories for not delivering Brexit. But any vote for labour ends any hope of Brexit.
Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:39 pm
pembroke allan wrote:epping blue wrote:Bluebina wrote:Farage's Brexit Party is going to give the two main parties a right kicking in the European elections !!!!
Not if you believe that poll out over night. They think labour will do well and predict a kicking for the tories for not delivering Brexit. But any vote for labour ends any hope of Brexit.
Not really EU election got nothing to do with our parliament? We all know EU wants us to stay so having labour emps wont change anything, its just a gravy train tor non enterties that are politicians
Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:57 pm
epping blue wrote:Bluebina wrote:Farage's Brexit Party is going to give the two main parties a right kicking in the European elections !!!!
Not if you believe that poll out over night. They think labour will do well and predict a kicking for the tories for not delivering Brexit. But any vote for labour ends any hope of Brexit.
Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:45 pm
epping blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:epping blue wrote:Bluebina wrote:Farage's Brexit Party is going to give the two main parties a right kicking in the European elections !!!!
Not if you believe that poll out over night. They think labour will do well and predict a kicking for the tories for not delivering Brexit. But any vote for labour ends any hope of Brexit.
Not really EU election got nothing to do with our parliament? We all know EU wants us to stay so having labour emps wont change anything, its just a gravy train tor non enterties that are politicians
Your right and we traditionally use the elections that matter least as a vehicle of protest. However it will get used as further justification for binning the 2016 referendum result.