' Fans forgiven Tan ? '

But success and the chance to see Cardiff City in Premier League was enough to keep me and many others shamefully silent.

It remained a debate in the family between my brother, father and me: was all this worth it if we get to see City in the Prem?

This is a myth that has somehow been repeated so often its slowly becoming truth.

For many it wasnt a case of accepting red in exchange for Premjer league glory, it was a case of reluctantly accepting red because there were no other investors on the horizon and hadnt been for a long time and we were in so much financial trouble if one of the many winding up orders we faced was acted upon it could have meant liquidation - not administration where we would have faced a fine and docking points but complete stripping of all assets with no more CCFC.

Very few liked it - but some accepted it was the lesser of two evils.

Also if we were liquadated and had ro start from scratch then the the FA granting us a welsh club access to the English pyramid system was far from guaranteed so even if we did a Wimbledon and formed a phoenix club it may well have been in the LoW.

The choice between accepting red for the sake of fifteen minutes in the sun is very different to a choice of a CCFC in red being preferable to no CCFC at all - which is actually a better description of the situation.

Thats what always annoyed me avout this rather be blue in league two bollocks. That really wasnt an option without Tans money we could well have be battling with TNS and Rhyl rather than Torquay and Rochdale.

I could never understand why anyone would want to change our traditional colours in the first place. As far as I was concerned we were the Bluebirds and have been the Bluebirds throughout the 50 years I have supported this club. It was a complete nonsense to make the change in the first place, and was obviously not that important or we would still be playing in red. Because I no longer recognised this as being my club, I stopped attending and missed what will probably be the one and only season that we will have played at the top,( in my lifetime anyway). I don't particularly regret it as this was no longer the club I knew, and not only did the colours change, so did the fanbase as we temporarily attracted thousands of people who had never shown any real interest in the club until we reached the PL. We are now back in blue, and a large chunk of that fanbase has disappeared until the next time we get back, or look like getting back to the top.

The club came within hours of folding under Sam, that I can't forgive !
Tan has kept this club afloat, yes he has made mistakes, divided fans at this club for sure!
This club is now stronger under his ownership than any other chairman I can recall in my 35 years of supporting this club.
Fans that want to see him gone should recall those dark days

But success and the chance to see Cardiff City in Premier League was enough to keep me and many others shamefully silent.

It remained a debate in the family between my brother, father and me: was all this worth it if we get to see City in the Prem?

This is a myth that has somehow been repeated so often its slowly becoming truth.

For many it wasnt a case of accepting red in exchange for Premjer league glory, it was a case of reluctantly accepting red because there were no other investors on the horizon and hadnt been for a long time and we were in so much financial trouble if one of the many winding up orders we faced was acted upon it could have meant liquidation - not administration where we would have faced a fine and docking points but complete stripping of all assets with no more CCFC.

Very few liked it - but some accepted it was the lesser of two evils.

Also if we were liquadated and had ro start from scratch then the the FA granting us a welsh club access to the English pyramid system was far from guaranteed so even if we did a Wimbledon and formed a phoenix club it may well have been in the LoW.

The choice between accepting red for the sake of fifteen minutes in the sun is very different to a choice of a CCFC in red being preferable to no CCFC at all - which is actually a better description of the situation.

Thats what always annoyed me avout this rather be blue in league two bollocks. That really wasnt an option without Tans money we could well have be battling with TNS and Rhyl rather than Torquay and Rochdale.

I could never understand why anyone would want to change our traditional colours in the first place. As far as I was concerned we were the Bluebirds and have been the Bluebirds throughout the 50 years I have supported this club. It was a complete nonsense to make the change in the first place, and was obviously not that important or we would still be playing in red. Because I no longer recognised this as being my club, I stopped attending and missed what will probably be the one and only season that we will have played at the top,( in my lifetime anyway). I don't particularly regret it as this was no longer the club I knew, and not only did the colours change, so did the fanbase as we temporarily attracted thousands of people who had never shown any real interest in the club until we reached the PL. We are now back in blue, and a large chunk of that fanbase has disappeared until the next time we get back, or look like getting back to the top.

Thats conpletely fair enough and i totally understand why you would feel that way and for the record i also think it was a hugely misjudged and arrogant thing to do that for many will never be forgiveable.

The only point i'm making is that for many if those that very reluctantly accepted the red it was because they didnt want to see the club fold NOT because of the promise of the prem as the author in the OP is making out.

But success and the chance to see Cardiff City in Premier League was enough to keep me and many others shamefully silent.

It remained a debate in the family between my brother, father and me: was all this worth it if we get to see City in the Prem?

This is a myth that has somehow been repeated so often its slowly becoming truth.

For many it wasnt a case of accepting red in exchange for Premjer league glory, it was a case of reluctantly accepting red because there were no other investors on the horizon and hadnt been for a long time and we were in so much financial trouble if one of the many winding up orders we faced was acted upon it could have meant liquidation - not administration where we would have faced a fine and docking points but complete stripping of all assets with no more CCFC.

Very few liked it - but some accepted it was the lesser of two evils.

Also if we were liquadated and had ro start from scratch then the the FA granting us a welsh club access to the English pyramid system was far from guaranteed so even if we did a Wimbledon and formed a phoenix club it may well have been in the LoW.

The choice between accepting red for the sake of fifteen minutes in the sun is very different to a choice of a CCFC in red being preferable to no CCFC at all - which is actually a better description of the situation.

Thats what always annoyed me avout this rather be blue in league two bollocks. That really wasnt an option without Tans money we could well have be battling with TNS and Rhyl rather than Torquay and Rochdale.

I could never understand why anyone would want to change our traditional colours in the first place. As far as I was concerned we were the Bluebirds and have been the Bluebirds throughout the 50 years I have supported this club. It was a complete nonsense to make the change in the first place, and was obviously not that important or we would still be playing in red. Because I no longer recognised this as being my club, I stopped attending and missed what will probably be the one and only season that we will have played at the top,( in my lifetime anyway). I don't particularly regret it as this was no longer the club I knew, and not only did the colours change, so did the fanbase as we temporarily attracted thousands of people who had never shown any real interest in the club until we reached the PL. We are now back in blue, and a large chunk of that fanbase has disappeared until the next time we get back, or look like getting back to the top.

Thats conpletely fair enough and i totally understand why you would feel that way and for the record i also think it was a hugely misjudged and arrogant thing to do that for many will never be forgiveable.

The only point i'm making is that for many if those that very reluctantly accepted the red it was because they didnt want to see the club fold NOT because of the promise of the prem as the author in the OP is making out.

Don't think I can agree with you on the statement most wanted the club to not fold.

I met many a fan who claimed to have been watching the club for decades and believed their support deserved premier football so were willing to accept the rebrand. I put that type in the same bracket as the red brigade....total sellouts.

While I'm at it I'll elaborate a bit more. I know a few who wore the red and claimed they were wearing it as support for the team. I gave them the benefit of the doubt but also said they were very naive about it all. Then there were those who wore the blue as a protest. I accepted that as it bugged the living daylights out of the red brigade.

Finally those that stayed away perhaps had the best idea but it was never going to work. The only way that way was going ot work is if we all joined them. It was never going to happen which for me is the real shame.

I have a super sharp memory and I remember some clown writing on here December 2015 that if we supported the rebrand we could be like Leicester.

How the f**k does he work that out? The rebrand was supported by plastics claiming to be city fans. It was the red team that failed.

About a year before that some stupid tw*t on here 'we are a club with potential, if a colour change gets us there so be it'.

Cardiff city have no potential where has we play in blue, red or f*cking pink! Ok we could very well be a yo yo club like hull or be meaniless shit like Swansea aiming for mid table. That's the furthest we'll go whatever the colour.

But success and the chance to see Cardiff City in Premier League was enough to keep me and many others shamefully silent.

It remained a debate in the family between my brother, father and me: was all this worth it if we get to see City in the Prem?

This is a myth that has somehow been repeated so often its slowly becoming truth.

For many it wasnt a case of accepting red in exchange for Premjer league glory, it was a case of reluctantly accepting red because there were no other investors on the horizon and hadnt been for a long time and we were in so much financial trouble if one of the many winding up orders we faced was acted upon it could have meant liquidation - not administration where we would have faced a fine and docking points but complete stripping of all assets with no more CCFC.

Very few liked it - but some accepted it was the lesser of two evils.

Also if we were liquadated and had ro start from scratch then the the FA granting us a welsh club access to the English pyramid system was far from guaranteed so even if we did a Wimbledon and formed a phoenix club it may well have been in the LoW.

The choice between accepting red for the sake of fifteen minutes in the sun is very different to a choice of a CCFC in red being preferable to no CCFC at all - which is actually a better description of the situation.

Thats what always annoyed me avout this rather be blue in league two bollocks. That really wasnt an option without Tans money we could well have be battling with TNS and Rhyl rather than Torquay and Rochdale.

I could never understand why anyone would want to change our traditional colours in the first place. As far as I was concerned we were the Bluebirds and have been the Bluebirds throughout the 50 years I have supported this club. It was a complete nonsense to make the change in the first place, and was obviously not that important or we would still be playing in red. Because I no longer recognised this as being my club, I stopped attending and missed what will probably be the one and only season that we will have played at the top,( in my lifetime anyway). I don't particularly regret it as this was no longer the club I knew, and not only did the colours change, so did the fanbase as we temporarily attracted thousands of people who had never shown any real interest in the club until we reached the PL. We are now back in blue, and a large chunk of that fanbase has disappeared until the next time we get back, or look like getting back to the top.

Thats conpletely fair enough and i totally understand why you would feel that way and for the record i also think it was a hugely misjudged and arrogant thing to do that for many will never be forgiveable.

The only point i'm making is that for many if those that very reluctantly accepted the red it was because they didnt want to see the club fold NOT because of the promise of the prem as the author in the OP is making out.

Don't think I can agree with you on the statement most wanted the club to not fold.

I met many a fan who claimed to have been watching the club for decades and believed their support deserved premier football so were willing to accept the rebrand. I put that type in the same bracket as the red brigade....total sellouts.

While I'm at it I'll elaborate a bit more. I know a few who wore the red and claimed they were wearing it as support for the team. I gave them the benefit of the doubt but also said they were very naive about it all. Then there were those who wore the blue as a protest. I accepted that as it bugged the living daylights out of the red brigade.

Finally those that stayed away perhaps had the best idea but it was never going to work. The only way that way was going ot work is if we all joined them. It was never going to happen which for me is the real shame.

Fair enough - I guess being an exile perhaps my view on it is limited to a smaller selection of fans - catching up with my mates and those who I've known for years going down city who I'd talk to when I'm back home but the thing with your mates is quite often you tend to have fairly similar views (that's why your mates) so i'll readily admit with hindsight that maybe I had a bit of a skewed, echo-chamber type view of things.

Yes - reversed all the wrongs - time to move on