" Predict The Villa Attendance "

How do you compare clubs to compare crowds? You cannot it's that simple each club as its own support base big or small and it fluctuates depending on the success or league a team is in? As pointed out we will sell out man u livpool ect ECT why because that's who people want to see, teams like Leeds shef have always had better support than us so how can you compare to them? Our crowds are what they are , at end season if in playoffs it will be more than 15k but guarantee it won't please people as will say should have 20k or more so will bec complaining about the poor support again!

Don't think wolves and boro being part of large conurbations has much to with it, for i.e. Wolves have serious competition from Birmingham, villa, West Brom and stoke. M'boro isn't a very big place and anywhere north supports the big two. We on the other hand have a huge area with no rival support, you can't really count Newport, a sad fact that over 90% of the population of Cardiff never go, never mind the valleys, vale and beyond. It's a shame because it's a thriving growing city at the moment and a well run successful club could link in with that, never does though.....I reckon 26875.

My argument about being based in areas with huge populations is thst they have a bigger pool of potential walk ups

population of west midlands = 2.9 million . population of the whole of Wales = 3.1 million

wolves, brum , west brom and aston villa get support outside that the west midlands areas such as shropshire ,worcestshire , staffs , warwickshire , east midlands etc . i would suspect close on 8 million people in total so i tend to agree with gaynor straight regarding walk up crowds

Don't think wolves and boro being part of large conurbations has much to with it, for i.e. Wolves have serious competition from Birmingham, villa, West Brom and stoke. M'boro isn't a very big place and anywhere north supports the big two. We on the other hand have a huge area with no rival support, you can't really count Newport, a sad fact that over 90% of the population of Cardiff never go, never mind the valleys, vale and beyond. It's a shame because it's a thriving growing city at the moment and a well run successful club could link in with that, never does though.....I reckon 26875.

My argument about being based in areas with huge populations is thst they have a bigger pool of potential walk ups

Also whilst Midlands clubs are surrounded by other clubs people are fiercely tribal and won't get wolves fans saying there in Midlands they are in black country! And walk up crowds are important and can boost attendances by many thousands? Just don't get what people think the crowd for city should be? is it 15k or 25k 30k even! do you compare it to last season or 5yrs ago Or even 40yrs ago? And to what city do you compare us to that mirrors us? I cannot understand why people are trying to compare crowds to times and city's totally different to us as

Don't think wolves and boro being part of large conurbations has much to with it, for i.e. Wolves have serious competition from Birmingham, villa, West Brom and stoke. M'boro isn't a very big place and anywhere north supports the big two. We on the other hand have a huge area with no rival support, you can't really count Newport, a sad fact that over 90% of the population of Cardiff never go, never mind the valleys, vale and beyond. It's a shame because it's a thriving growing city at the moment and a well run successful club could link in with that, never does though.....I reckon 26875.

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Sheffield United had nearly 27,000 v little Brentford, We've got Aston Villa

Wolves had nearly 30,000 v Boro, holidays never stopped them getting that crowd, then we will hear its October cold,then its Xmas everyones shopping,then its Jan everyone skint.


If it was Man United/Liverpool/Man City/Chelsea/ Spurs/Arsenal home etc funny it would be full then, with no excuses.


Warnock and the Bluebirds deserve big crowds

Wolves biggest opening day crowd for 37 years...glory hunters.

Don't think wolves and boro being part of large conurbations has much to with it, for i.e. Wolves have serious competition from Birmingham, villa, West Brom and stoke. M'boro isn't a very big place and anywhere north supports the big two. We on the other hand have a huge area with no rival support, you can't really count Newport, a sad fact that over 90% of the population of Cardiff never go, never mind the valleys, vale and beyond. It's a shame because it's a thriving growing city at the moment and a well run successful club could link in with that, never does though.....I reckon 26875.

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Sheffield United had nearly 27,000 v little Brentford, We've got Aston Villa

Wolves had nearly 30,000 v Boro, holidays never stopped them getting that crowd, then we will hear its October cold,then its Xmas everyones shopping,then its Jan everyone skint.


If it was Man United/Liverpool/Man City/Chelsea/ Spurs/Arsenal home etc funny it would be full then, with no excuses.


Warnock and the Bluebirds deserve big crowds

Wolves biggest opening day crowd for 37 years...glory hunters.

Well now for Cardiff to have theirs then

23,200. Should be more but we are in the middle of peak holiday period.

I agree, many people still away on holiday. Around the 23k mark IMO.

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23,200. Should be more but we are in the middle of peak holiday period.

I agree, many people still away on holiday. Around the 23k mark IMO.

People are away in May,June,July,August,Sept,Xmas etc

You could say more fans go to matches during holiday times

This debate has been done to death on numerous occasions but I will chuck in my 10 pence.

It really frustrates me how Cardiff as a club do not get at least 30,000 each game. As another poster has said, the majority of people in Cardiff do not attend or give too shits about watching the City. I have people I work with who were born and live in Cardiff who actively dislike Cardiff and I can't understand that. They would rather sit at home on a Saturday and watch all the PL scores come in.

I have mates who love football but won't go to watch the city as they say its "crap" or "a waste of money" etc... Without the Valleys supporters, we'd get attendances between 5-10k each game.

The club have done everything to try and increase attendances this season and it is now up to fans to get all there family and friends to attend

I'm hoping we can hit anything between 28-30k against villa but I feel we'll be lucky to hit 25k

This debate has been done to death on numerous occasions but I will chuck in my 10 pence.

It really frustrates me how Cardiff as a club do not get at least 30,000 each game. As another poster has said, the majority of people in Cardiff do not attend or give too shits about watching the City. I have people I work with who were born and live in Cardiff who actively dislike Cardiff and I can't understand that. They would rather sit at home on a Saturday and watch all the PL scores come in.

I have mates who love football but won't go to watch the city as they say its "crap" or "a waste of money" etc... Without the Valleys supporters, we'd get attendances between 5-10k each game.

The club have done everything to try and increase attendances this season and it is now up to fans to get all there family and friends to attend

I'm hoping we can hit anything between 28-30k against villa but I feel we'll be lucky to hit 25k

Mikey, fair play for pointing out a few home truths

So we have had the support and the support was once there and Cardiff was a much smaller place then and the areas around Cardiff were by far smaller.

Cardiff City were the fifth best supported club in the Football League in their first season in the top flight (1921/22) with an average gate of 33,340

And although crowds dropped by an average of almost six thousand the following season, their figure of 27.620 was still enough to get them the eighth best supporting team rating.

In 1923/24 (the season when a missed penalty cost us the league title), our average gate again dropped, but only by a few hundred to 26,950 and this was enough for us to climb a place to seventh in the best supported team rankings.

This debate has been done to death on numerous occasions but I will chuck in my 10 pence.

It really frustrates me how Cardiff as a club do not get at least 30,000 each game. As another poster has said, the majority of people in Cardiff do not attend or give too shits about watching the City. I have people I work with who were born and live in Cardiff who actively dislike Cardiff and I can't understand that. They would rather sit at home on a Saturday and watch all the PL scores come in.

I have mates who love football but won't go to watch the city as they say its "crap" or "a waste of money" etc... Without the Valleys supporters, we'd get attendances between 5-10k each game.

The club have done everything to try and increase attendances this season and it is now up to fans to get all there family and friends to attend

I'm hoping we can hit anything between 28-30k against villa but I feel we'll be lucky to hit 25k

Mikey, fair play for pointing out a few home truths

Yet the same people who probably say 'it's crap and a waste of money to watch us' are the same people who turn up for the BIG games or when we have success! And for some that don't I wonder if they have ever even tried it! Perhaps they have heard from other people it's crap and are just taking there word for it - but I wouldn't be surprised if they've never been to a city match and still make such comments! How do they know it's crap and a waste of money? How would you know if you've never been? For people who are born and bred in Cardiff and are football fans - I can't u der stand why they wouldn't get i to Cardiff? Ok fair enough if all your family are Liverpool fans for example...then perhaps they have been swayed towards another team but it doesn't really make sense to me to be born and bred in Cardiff and support another team but each to there own I guess. It makes u wonder if there was another big club in Cardiff would it make things better or worse for attendances? Say Cardiff City V Cardiff United? Lol.

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This debate has been done to death on numerous occasions but I will chuck in my 10 pence.

It really frustrates me how Cardiff as a club do not get at least 30,000 each game. As another poster has said, the majority of people in Cardiff do not attend or give too shits about watching the City. I have people I work with who were born and live in Cardiff who actively dislike Cardiff and I can't understand that. They would rather sit at home on a Saturday and watch all the PL scores come in.

I have mates who love football but won't go to watch the city as they say its "crap" or "a waste of money" etc... Without the Valleys supporters, we'd get attendances between 5-10k each game.

The club have done everything to try and increase attendances this season and it is now up to fans to get all there family and friends to attend

I'm hoping we can hit anything between 28-30k against villa but I feel we'll be lucky to hit 25k

Mikey, fair play for pointing out a few home truths

Yet the same people who probably say 'it's crap and a waste of money to watch us' are the same people who turn up for the BIG games or when we have success! And for some that don't I wonder if they have ever even tried it! Perhaps they have heard from other people it's crap and are just taking there word for it - but I wouldn't be surprised if they've never been to a city match and still make such comments! How do they know it's crap and a waste of money? How would you know if you've never been? For people who are born and bred in Cardiff and are football fans - I can't u der stand why they wouldn't get i to Cardiff? Ok fair enough if all your family are Liverpool fans for example...then perhaps they have been swayed towards another team but it doesn't really make sense to me to be born and bred in Cardiff and support another team but each to there own I guess. It makes u wonder if there was another big club in Cardiff would it make things better or worse for attendances? Say Cardiff City V Cardiff United? Lol.

Sadly A lot of truth there

Luke,

We have had 18 yrs of a very good standard of football, three promotions,Prem football, only one relegation,Wembley 5 times, top players playing for us,new ground etc.

Luke,

We have had 18 yrs of a very good standard of football, three promotions,Prem football, only one relegation,Wembley 5 times, top players playing for us,new ground etc.

1997/98 we finished 21st in the bottom tier averaging 3,600..
you could argue that we have come a hell of a long way.
equally what the f**k were we doing there in the first place and a city / area of this size should do much better.

as said in another thread we need a prolonged spell in the EPL with a few top half finishes thrown in to know once and for all what our potential really is.