Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:18 pm
Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:33 pm
Forever Blue wrote:If you go on utube only two weeks ago Celtic fans were singing you will never beat the IRA away in Linfield, what the hell has that got to do with football?
I agree politics should be kept clear of football. It never will be though as long as celtic and rangers still trade. This will still be happening long after we have passed on.
Link
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S89VPJAwPPU
Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:09 pm
2014ccfc28 wrote:Bobby sands was an elected mp and a member of the irish republican army doing the same as lee rigby fighting for his country . It all depends what side of the fence you look from but the majority of irish would see sands as a freedom fighter not a terrorist . You got to remember guys theres 2 sides to every story and i try to look at both. It should never come in to football though and i fully condemn those celtic idiots singing that and most celtic fans will be embarassed right now.
Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:18 pm
BlueGog wrote:2014ccfc28 wrote:Bobby sands was an elected mp and a member of the irish republican army doing the same as lee rigby fighting for his country . It all depends what side of the fence you look from but the majority of irish would see sands as a freedom fighter not a terrorist . You got to remember guys theres 2 sides to every story and i try to look at both. It should never come in to football though and i fully condemn those celtic idiots singing that and most celtic fans will be embarassed right now.
Probably the most sensible post in this thread, well said mate.
Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:12 am
Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:30 am
Jock wrote:BlueGog wrote:2014ccfc28 wrote:Bobby sands was an elected mp and a member of the irish republican army doing the same as lee rigby fighting for his country . It all depends what side of the fence you look from but the majority of irish would see sands as a freedom fighter not a terrorist . You got to remember guys theres 2 sides to every story and i try to look at both. It should never come in to football though and i fully condemn those celtic idiots singing that and most celtic fans will be embarassed right now.
Probably the most sensible post in this thread, well said mate.
The Irish Republican Army.....no he was a small time crook recruited by the Provos, I'm so bored with all this shite I'm out. Believe whatever the fekk you want.
Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:56 am
Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:18 am
1980s Bluebird wrote:Bobby Sands was used as a significant model for PIRA purposes, there were 9 others who died after him who you never hear of. His death was used by PIRA for media attention.
PIRA shifted what you may call terrorist or freedom fighter to one medium size criminal orgirganisat only intent on controlling the black market and drug market along with their Loyalist enemy.
You will rarely see a Celtic shirt in the Bogside or in Andersonstown or Carrickmore or Dublin.
Celtic fans and not all of them just like to think they are some form of mouthpiece for anything IRA. Easter Rising, the IRA did not exist, it was the IRB whis aims were totally diffrent to the later IRA.
Wed Aug 02, 2017 9:51 am
2014ccfc28 wrote:Bobby sands was an elected mp and a member of the irish republican army doing the same as lee rigby fighting for his country . It all depends what side of the fence you look from but the majority of irish would see sands as a freedom fighter not a terrorist . You got to remember guys theres 2 sides to every story and i try to look at both. It should never come in to football though and i fully condemn those celtic idiots singing that and most celtic fans will be embarassed right now.
Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:23 am
Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:33 am
1980s Bluebird wrote:One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, the only comparison that should be done between the two us they were both human beings who lost their lives.
Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:59 am
WelshPatriot wrote:1980s Bluebird wrote:One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, the only comparison that should be done between the two us they were both human beings who lost their lives.
No one is legal one is illegal. It's quite simple.
Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:36 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:This is the skip Rat singing the Lee Rigby song And this is how I like to see a Celtic Fan layed out by a woman and his head put on a Union Jack pillow
Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:27 pm
Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:45 pm
2014ccfc28 wrote:Bobby sands was an elected mp and a member of the irish republican army doing the same as lee rigby fighting for his country . It all depends what side of the fence you look from but the majority of irish would see sands as a freedom fighter not a terrorist . You got to remember guys theres 2 sides to every story and i try to look at both. It should never come in to football though and i fully condemn those celtic idiots singing that and most celtic fans will be embarassed right now.
Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:03 pm
AV3 wrote:2014ccfc28 wrote:Bobby sands was an elected mp and a member of the irish republican army doing the same as lee rigby fighting for his country . It all depends what side of the fence you look from but the majority of irish would see sands as a freedom fighter not a terrorist . You got to remember guys theres 2 sides to every story and i try to look at both. It should never come in to football though and i fully condemn those celtic idiots singing that and most celtic fans will be embarassed right now.
CCFC. I grew up in Birmingham and when I was 14, the IRA blew up two pubs that were packed with mainly young people who were out celebrating (what was called in those days) "pay day". 21 people lost their lives, mostly young people and many teenage or early 20s girls. The IRA became an enemy of mine that day and for most of my life after that, NI always played a big part in it. Bobby Sands was a member of this organisation that were women and child killers. Please don't insult mine, or anyone else's intelligence by claiming that women and child killers are "freedom fighters" or that there are 2 sides of the fence to sit on here. Please also allow me to tell you a bit about Bobby Sands:
When Bobby sands parents were homeless, along with their 4 kids, including Bobby, they were housed in a brand new house, courtesy of the British taxpayer. Soon after moving into his brand new house, Sands was jailed for 5 years for firearms offences. Upon his release from prison, in order to help Sands get his life back together, he was employed in the role of "community worker", paid of course by the British taxpayer. One night, "community worker" Sands had a contribution of his own to make to the community - He blew up a furniture store because the owners were of a different religion to him. Whilst making good his getaway, community worker Sands and his cohorts were stopped by police and a gun battle then ensued which ended up with Sands being in the Maze. Sands then stupidly tried to hold the British Government to ransom by claiming that he was somehow superior to other prisoners and deserved special privileges. It seems OK to blow up peoples businesses and destroying their livelihood and to fire guns at police but things like armed robbery are to be frowned upon. To quote the late Margaret Thatcher, crime is crime is crime.
To compare scum like Sands to a thoroughly decent young man like Lee Rigby is as reprehensible as the songs that those other vermin have sung.
Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:10 pm
2014ccfc28 wrote:AV3 wrote:2014ccfc28 wrote:Bobby sands was an elected mp and a member of the irish republican army doing the same as lee rigby fighting for his country . It all depends what side of the fence you look from but the majority of irish would see sands as a freedom fighter not a terrorist . You got to remember guys theres 2 sides to every story and i try to look at both. It should never come in to football though and i fully condemn those celtic idiots singing that and most celtic fans will be embarassed right now.
CCFC. I grew up in Birmingham and when I was 14, the IRA blew up two pubs that were packed with mainly young people who were out celebrating (what was called in those days) "pay day". 21 people lost their lives, mostly young people and many teenage or early 20s girls. The IRA became an enemy of mine that day and for most of my life after that, NI always played a big part in it. Bobby Sands was a member of this organisation that were women and child killers. Please don't insult mine, or anyone else's intelligence by claiming that women and child killers are "freedom fighters" or that there are 2 sides of the fence to sit on here. Please also allow me to tell you a bit about Bobby Sands:
When Bobby sands parents were homeless, along with their 4 kids, including Bobby, they were housed in a brand new house, courtesy of the British taxpayer. Soon after moving into his brand new house, Sands was jailed for 5 years for firearms offences. Upon his release from prison, in order to help Sands get his life back together, he was employed in the role of "community worker", paid of course by the British taxpayer. One night, "community worker" Sands had a contribution of his own to make to the community - He blew up a furniture store because the owners were of a different religion to him. Whilst making good his getaway, community worker Sands and his cohorts were stopped by police and a gun battle then ensued which ended up with Sands being in the Maze. Sands then stupidly tried to hold the British Government to ransom by claiming that he was somehow superior to other prisoners and deserved special privileges. It seems OK to blow up peoples businesses and destroying their livelihood and to fire guns at police but things like armed robbery are to be frowned upon. To quote the late Margaret Thatcher, crime is crime is crime.
To compare scum like Sands to a thoroughly decent young man like Lee Rigby is as reprehensible as the songs that those other vermin have sung.
What do you have to say about the british army shooting dead 14 unarmed civilians in derry then pal lets here your take on that one. Bloody sunday!!!
Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:37 pm
Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:40 pm
AV3 wrote:First and most importantly, Lee Rigby wasn't even born in 1972 - What in God's name has it to do with him?
Secondly, the majority were far from innocent as you claim - Nor were they unarmed. They were a breakaway mob of rioters who had left the main, peaceful march and had attacked the army with bricks, bottles, petrol bombs, nail bombs and any other missile they could get their hands on. They then tried to hide behind innocent civilians, so one mans freedom fighter is another man's coward. The whole thing had been planned and orchestrated by terrorists, including McGuinness
Thirdly, this was one of (if not the only one) where it could be suggested that the army were heavy handed - This was after years of snipers, petrol bombs bricks, bottles and stones etc. Moral of the story: Don't throw these things at men with guns.
Now stop your arguing. I'm not interested. This is a football forum, not a platform for you to spout your terrorist propaganda.
Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:46 pm
AV3 wrote:First and most importantly, Lee Rigby wasn't even born in 1972 - What in God's name has it to do with him?
Secondly, the majority were far from innocent as you claim - Nor were they unarmed. They were a breakaway mob of rioters who had left the main, peaceful march and had attacked the army with bricks, bottles, petrol bombs, nail bombs and any other missile they could get their hands on. They then tried to hide behind innocent civilians, so one mans freedom fighter is another man's coward. The whole thing had been planned and orchestrated by terrorists, including McGuinness
Thirdly, this was one of (if not the only one) where it could be suggested that the army were heavy handed - This was after years of snipers, petrol bombs bricks, bottles and stones etc. Moral of the story: Don't throw these things at men with guns.
Now stop your arguing. I'm not interested. This is a football forum, not a platform for you to spout your terrorist propaganda.
Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:51 pm
nathansfmachine wrote:AV3 wrote:First and most importantly, Lee Rigby wasn't even born in 1972 - What in God's name has it to do with him?
Secondly, the majority were far from innocent as you claim - Nor were they unarmed. They were a breakaway mob of rioters who had left the main, peaceful march and had attacked the army with bricks, bottles, petrol bombs, nail bombs and any other missile they could get their hands on. They then tried to hide behind innocent civilians, so one mans freedom fighter is another man's coward. The whole thing had been planned and orchestrated by terrorists, including McGuinness
Thirdly, this was one of (if not the only one) where it could be suggested that the army were heavy handed - This was after years of snipers, petrol bombs bricks, bottles and stones etc. Moral of the story: Don't throw these things at men with guns.
Now stop your arguing. I'm not interested. This is a football forum, not a platform for you to spout your terrorist propaganda.
Indeed it is a football forum....a CARDIFF football forum. Saw the measure of your support when we played you last season. Certainly some cowards amongst your lot.
Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:15 pm
nathansfmachine wrote:AV3 wrote:First and most importantly, Lee Rigby wasn't even born in 1972 - What in God's name has it to do with him?
Secondly, the majority were far from innocent as you claim - Nor were they unarmed. They were a breakaway mob of rioters who had left the main, peaceful march and had attacked the army with bricks, bottles, petrol bombs, nail bombs and any other missile they could get their hands on. They then tried to hide behind innocent civilians, so one mans freedom fighter is another man's coward. The whole thing had been planned and orchestrated by terrorists, including McGuinness
Thirdly, this was one of (if not the only one) where it could be suggested that the army were heavy handed - This was after years of snipers, petrol bombs bricks, bottles and stones etc. Moral of the story: Don't throw these things at men with guns.
Now stop your arguing. I'm not interested. This is a football forum, not a platform for you to spout your terrorist propaganda.
Indeed it is a football forum....a CARDIFF football forum. Saw the measure of your support when we played you last season. Certainly some cowards amongst your lot.
Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:30 pm
Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:30 pm
Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:18 am
Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:31 am
murphy wrote:More class from a Celtic wanker.
Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:31 am
Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:26 am
2014ccfc28 wrote:What do you have to say about the british army shooting dead 14 unarmed civilians in derry then pal lets here your take on that one. Bloody sunday!!!
Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:08 pm
2014ccfc28 wrote:Bobby sands was an elected mp and a member of the irish republican army doing the same as lee rigby fighting for his country . It all depends what side of the fence you look from but the majority of irish would see sands as a freedom fighter not a terrorist . You got to remember guys theres 2 sides to every story and i try to look at both. It should never come in to football though and i fully condemn those celtic idiots singing that and most celtic fans will be embarassed right now.