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Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:43 pm

WelshPatriot wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
cityblue wrote:I havent read all the comments and i'm sure theres alot i would agree and disagree with but i'm sorry, 8k pw is a derisory offer for a model professional who if you believe previous reports, coud'veleft along time ago but decided not to. I will admit i am a huge fan but i am not biased enough to believe that he will be a 1st team regular next year and he certainly doesnt influence games like he used to but even at his age, in the modern market, he is worth 10-14k a week. You may laugh at that but look at his stats again this season (bearing in mind we were struggling before NW). He has been involved in more of our goals than any other player (goals and assists). If we let him go it will be to another clubs advantage, especially on a free and 4-6k more than we are offering. I know we have to make sacrifices and money decisions to move forward but this 1 is wrong, wrong, wrong


You think 8k a week paid to a player who will be 33 next season and doesn't feature in the managers plans is derisory?? This is why you aren't a manager.

Nearly half a million a year :lol:


People keep saying another club will take him but I genuinely can't see any clubs beating those wages for a 33 year old. I'm a whitts fan but this is football it's about the now not the then.



well as of today he hasnt signed. i have no idea of what he has been offered but i am sure he and his agent are aware of what other clubs might be willing to pay him. if our offer was a reasonable one pretty sure he would have signed on dotted line by now.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:52 am

WelshPatriot wrote:
cityblue wrote:I havent read all the comments and i'm sure theres alot i would agree and disagree with but i'm sorry, 8k pw is a derisory offer for a model professional who if you believe previous reports, coud'veleft along time ago but decided not to. I will admit i am a huge fan but i am not biased enough to believe that he will be a 1st team regular next year and he certainly doesnt influence games like he used to but even at his age, in the modern market, he is worth 10-14k a week. You may laugh at that but look at his stats again this season (bearing in mind we were struggling before NW). He has been involved in more of our goals than any other player (goals and assists). If we let him go it will be to another clubs advantage, especially on a free and 4-6k more than we are offering. I know we have to make sacrifices and money decisions to move forward but this 1 is wrong, wrong, wrong


You think 8k a week paid to a player who will be 33 next season and doesn't feature in the managers plans is derisory?? This is why you aren't a manager.

Who says he isnt in his plans? Everytime i hear NW talk about him its nothing but positives. Like i said in my origial post, he wont be starting 11. If we're going to be pushing for promotion next year there will be players on the bench with less quality and earning more money than 8k pw. I'm sure of that

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:15 am

I want Whitts to stay but im sure he wont be short of offers from other clubs.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:07 am

WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:End of the day, Whitts is still one of our best attacking players - his assists and goals show that, year after year (including this one). So yes, I consider £8k a week a disgrace given we are supposedly paying him over £20k per week right now. It's not a true value of his worth to our team, and I honestly believe there are teams in this league that would die for Whitts to be in their starting eleven.

Just goes to show some of the shit that gets thrown Whitts' way by some of our fans. When folk like Hudson and co were shipped out, or pretty much forced to leave, everyone was calling it disgusting and disrespectful to players who had given us so much. Same pretty much being done to Whitts, but that's seemingly okay because for whatever goddamn reason some people just don't think he should be playing any more.

It's rubbish.


Hudson & co were forced out not offered a deal of 8k a week. How are you even comparing the two totally different scenarios??


They aren't different at all. We're offering Whitts a nearly 70% drop in his weekly income, pretty much forcing his hand to leave, whilst allowing ourselves to have a little bargain if he DOES sign because he IS better than most in our squad (he's also got the best delivery, etc).

All the people in here scoffing at £8k a week being a poor offer, or £400k per year, etc, are losing sight of the fact that he is a professional footballer currently living on an income significantly bigger than that. How about the rest of us take a nearly 70% pay drop from what we are used to earning, and see how that makes us feel?

He should've been offered about £15k, no lower.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:11 am

WelshPatriot wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
cityblue wrote:I havent read all the comments and i'm sure theres alot i would agree and disagree with but i'm sorry, 8k pw is a derisory offer for a model professional who if you believe previous reports, coud'veleft along time ago but decided not to. I will admit i am a huge fan but i am not biased enough to believe that he will be a 1st team regular next year and he certainly doesnt influence games like he used to but even at his age, in the modern market, he is worth 10-14k a week. You may laugh at that but look at his stats again this season (bearing in mind we were struggling before NW). He has been involved in more of our goals than any other player (goals and assists). If we let him go it will be to another clubs advantage, especially on a free and 4-6k more than we are offering. I know we have to make sacrifices and money decisions to move forward but this 1 is wrong, wrong, wrong


You think 8k a week paid to a player who will be 33 next season and doesn't feature in the managers plans is derisory?? This is why you aren't a manager.

Nearly half a million a year :lol:


People keep saying another club will take him but I genuinely can't see any clubs beating those wages for a 33 year old. I'm a whitts fan but this is football it's about the now not the then.


What a stupid comment. You are aware of just how much OUR club offered and now pay Lambert right? There's always clubs out there willing to be good money to players who they think will make a difference.

And if football is about "now" not "then," we most certainly should be taking better care of Whitts given his goal involvement stats this year.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:15 am

KWest wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:End of the day, Whitts is still one of our best attacking players - his assists and goals show that, year after year (including this one). So yes, I consider £8k a week a disgrace given we are supposedly paying him over £20k per week right now. It's not a true value of his worth to our team, and I honestly believe there are teams in this league that would die for Whitts to be in their starting eleven.

Just goes to show some of the shit that gets thrown Whitts' way by some of our fans. When folk like Hudson and co were shipped out, or pretty much forced to leave, everyone was calling it disgusting and disrespectful to players who had given us so much. Same pretty much being done to Whitts, but that's seemingly okay because for whatever goddamn reason some people just don't think he should be playing any more.

It's rubbish.


Hudson & co were forced out not offered a deal of 8k a week. How are you even comparing the two totally different scenarios??


They aren't different at all. We're offering Whitts a nearly 70% drop in his weekly income, pretty much forcing his hand to leave, whilst allowing ourselves to have a little bargain if he DOES sign because he IS better than most in our squad (he's also got the best delivery, etc).

All the people in here scoffing at £8k a week being a poor offer, or £400k per year, etc, are losing sight of the fact that he is a professional footballer currently living on an income significantly bigger than that. How about the rest of us take a nearly 70% pay drop from what we are used to earning, and see how that makes us feel?

He should've been offered about £15k, no lower.

780k a year for a player who can't even get in the first team come on get real Whitts best days are behind him now

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:17 am

I'd let him go..
Not because he's rubbish or past it or whatever, he's got great delivery, set pieces, etc
Just I think we've evolved as a team, we now no longer play to his tools.

I'd rather see him somewhere playing week in week out than watch him waste away taking a bench wage and fade into obscurity.

I genuinely think we play a better game without him, if he were able to play high intensity and pacey game then he's the answer to our link up problems. But he can't so I say let him go applaud him hold him in high regard and look to the future.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:19 am

Blue_Barber wrote:I'd let him go..
Not because he's rubbish or past it or whatever, he's got great delivery, set pieces, etc
Just I think we've evolved as a team, we now no longer play to his tools.

I'd rather see him somewhere playing week in week out than watch him waste away taking a bench wage and fade into obscurity.

I genuinely think we play a better game without him, if he were able to play high intensity and pacey game then he's the answer to our link up problems. But he can't so I say let him go applaud him hold him in high regard and look to the future.

Good post ,some people on this thread saying we should offer him 15k a week why should we for a bench player

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:20 am

wez1927 wrote:
KWest wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:End of the day, Whitts is still one of our best attacking players - his assists and goals show that, year after year (including this one). So yes, I consider £8k a week a disgrace given we are supposedly paying him over £20k per week right now. It's not a true value of his worth to our team, and I honestly believe there are teams in this league that would die for Whitts to be in their starting eleven.

Just goes to show some of the shit that gets thrown Whitts' way by some of our fans. When folk like Hudson and co were shipped out, or pretty much forced to leave, everyone was calling it disgusting and disrespectful to players who had given us so much. Same pretty much being done to Whitts, but that's seemingly okay because for whatever goddamn reason some people just don't think he should be playing any more.

It's rubbish.


Hudson & co were forced out not offered a deal of 8k a week. How are you even comparing the two totally different scenarios??


They aren't different at all. We're offering Whitts a nearly 70% drop in his weekly income, pretty much forcing his hand to leave, whilst allowing ourselves to have a little bargain if he DOES sign because he IS better than most in our squad (he's also got the best delivery, etc).

All the people in here scoffing at £8k a week being a poor offer, or £400k per year, etc, are losing sight of the fact that he is a professional footballer currently living on an income significantly bigger than that. How about the rest of us take a nearly 70% pay drop from what we are used to earning, and see how that makes us feel?

He should've been offered about £15k, no lower.

780k a year for a player who can't even get in the first team come on get real Whitts best days are behind him now


You think Joe Ralls offers us more than Whitts?

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:25 am

Blue_Barber wrote:I'd let him go..
Not because he's rubbish or past it or whatever, he's got great delivery, set pieces, etc
Just I think we've evolved as a team, we now no longer play to his tools.

I'd rather see him somewhere playing week in week out than watch him waste away taking a bench wage and fade into obscurity.


This I can agree with. Our style is certainly changing, and Whitts would get more game time elsewhere and enjoy the final years of his career playing matches, rather than watching them from the bench.

With that in mind, we should've just told him he's free to find another club as he doesn't fit our plans. Putting this £8k offer in front of him does nothing more than leave a poor taste in my mouth if he leaves, and has only been done by the club to save face with the fans (half of whom don't seem to appreciate what the guy gives us anymore anyway)

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:26 am

KWest wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
KWest wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:End of the day, Whitts is still one of our best attacking players - his assists and goals show that, year after year (including this one). So yes, I consider £8k a week a disgrace given we are supposedly paying him over £20k per week right now. It's not a true value of his worth to our team, and I honestly believe there are teams in this league that would die for Whitts to be in their starting eleven.

Just goes to show some of the shit that gets thrown Whitts' way by some of our fans. When folk like Hudson and co were shipped out, or pretty much forced to leave, everyone was calling it disgusting and disrespectful to players who had given us so much. Same pretty much being done to Whitts, but that's seemingly okay because for whatever goddamn reason some people just don't think he should be playing any more.

It's rubbish.


Hudson & co were forced out not offered a deal of 8k a week. How are you even comparing the two totally different scenarios??


They aren't different at all. We're offering Whitts a nearly 70% drop in his weekly income, pretty much forcing his hand to leave, whilst allowing ourselves to have a little bargain if he DOES sign because he IS better than most in our squad (he's also got the best delivery, etc).

All the people in here scoffing at £8k a week being a poor offer, or £400k per year, etc, are losing sight of the fact that he is a professional footballer currently living on an income significantly bigger than that. How about the rest of us take a nearly 70% pay drop from what we are used to earning, and see how that makes us feel?

He should've been offered about £15k, no lower.

780k a year for a player who can't even get in the first team come on get real Whitts best days are behind him now


You think Joe Ralls offers us more than Whitts?

Yes the last few games our form had increased and so has Ralls form ,Whitts is past it now

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:26 am

wez1927 wrote:
KWest wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
KWest wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:End of the day, Whitts is still one of our best attacking players - his assists and goals show that, year after year (including this one). So yes, I consider £8k a week a disgrace given we are supposedly paying him over £20k per week right now. It's not a true value of his worth to our team, and I honestly believe there are teams in this league that would die for Whitts to be in their starting eleven.

Just goes to show some of the shit that gets thrown Whitts' way by some of our fans. When folk like Hudson and co were shipped out, or pretty much forced to leave, everyone was calling it disgusting and disrespectful to players who had given us so much. Same pretty much being done to Whitts, but that's seemingly okay because for whatever goddamn reason some people just don't think he should be playing any more.

It's rubbish.


Hudson & co were forced out not offered a deal of 8k a week. How are you even comparing the two totally different scenarios??


They aren't different at all. We're offering Whitts a nearly 70% drop in his weekly income, pretty much forcing his hand to leave, whilst allowing ourselves to have a little bargain if he DOES sign because he IS better than most in our squad (he's also got the best delivery, etc).

All the people in here scoffing at £8k a week being a poor offer, or £400k per year, etc, are losing sight of the fact that he is a professional footballer currently living on an income significantly bigger than that. How about the rest of us take a nearly 70% pay drop from what we are used to earning, and see how that makes us feel?

He should've been offered about £15k, no lower.

780k a year for a player who can't even get in the first team come on get real Whitts best days are behind him now


You think Joe Ralls offers us more than Whitts?

Yes the last few games our form had increased and so has Ralls form ,Whitts is past it now


"Past it" is not an assessment backed up by actual facts Wez, which in this case are his stats. They don't match up to his stats six years ago etc, but they're still better than people who get put in his position when he's out of the team.

And in absolutely no way is Ralls a better player than Whitts. Not now, not ever.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:43 am

wez1927 wrote:
KWest wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
KWest wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:End of the day, Whitts is still one of our best attacking players - his assists and goals show that, year after year (including this one). So yes, I consider £8k a week a disgrace given we are supposedly paying him over £20k per week right now. It's not a true value of his worth to our team, and I honestly believe there are teams in this league that would die for Whitts to be in their starting eleven.

Just goes to show some of the shit that gets thrown Whitts' way by some of our fans. When folk like Hudson and co were shipped out, or pretty much forced to leave, everyone was calling it disgusting and disrespectful to players who had given us so much. Same pretty much being done to Whitts, but that's seemingly okay because for whatever goddamn reason some people just don't think he should be playing any more.

It's rubbish.


Hudson & co were forced out not offered a deal of 8k a week. How are you even comparing the two totally different scenarios??


They aren't different at all. We're offering Whitts a nearly 70% drop in his weekly income, pretty much forcing his hand to leave, whilst allowing ourselves to have a little bargain if he DOES sign because he IS better than most in our squad (he's also got the best delivery, etc).

All the people in here scoffing at £8k a week being a poor offer, or £400k per year, etc, are losing sight of the fact that he is a professional footballer currently living on an income significantly bigger than that. How about the rest of us take a nearly 70% pay drop from what we are used to earning, and see how that makes us feel?

He should've been offered about £15k, no lower.

780k a year for a player who can't even get in the first team come on get real Whitts best days are behind him now


You think Joe Ralls offers us more than Whitts?

Yes the last few games our form had increased and so has Ralls form ,Whitts is past it now


Ralls has been magnificent in the past few games and is playing better without Whittingham. He's growing in stature and has a great partnership with Gunnarsson who is the real star of our midfield.

I think 8k a week is a fair offer for someone who will spend most of his time on the bench. He's not likely to go hungry is he? I can understand it if he wants more regular football and it's possible some club might give him more opportunities than us. In which case he might leave.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:04 am

I reckon Gunnar will be gone as well over the summer. We haven't a good passer in the Ralls/Gunnar base and Ralls is the better athlete and passer of the two, but not in the Faurlin class he had at QPR.
Gunnar would raise a decent fee for the real defensive midfielder, attacking midfielder and striker we do need.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:08 am

KWest wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
KWest wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
KWest wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:End of the day, Whitts is still one of our best attacking players - his assists and goals show that, year after year (including this one). So yes, I consider £8k a week a disgrace given we are supposedly paying him over £20k per week right now. It's not a true value of his worth to our team, and I honestly believe there are teams in this league that would die for Whitts to be in their starting eleven.

Just goes to show some of the shit that gets thrown Whitts' way by some of our fans. When folk like Hudson and co were shipped out, or pretty much forced to leave, everyone was calling it disgusting and disrespectful to players who had given us so much. Same pretty much being done to Whitts, but that's seemingly okay because for whatever goddamn reason some people just don't think he should be playing any more.

It's rubbish.


Hudson & co were forced out not offered a deal of 8k a week. How are you even comparing the two totally different scenarios??


They aren't different at all. We're offering Whitts a nearly 70% drop in his weekly income, pretty much forcing his hand to leave, whilst allowing ourselves to have a little bargain if he DOES sign because he IS better than most in our squad (he's also got the best delivery, etc).

All the people in here scoffing at £8k a week being a poor offer, or £400k per year, etc, are losing sight of the fact that he is a professional footballer currently living on an income significantly bigger than that. How about the rest of us take a nearly 70% pay drop from what we are used to earning, and see how that makes us feel?

He should've been offered about £15k, no lower.

780k a year for a player who can't even get in the first team come on get real Whitts best days are behind him now


You think Joe Ralls offers us more than Whitts?

Yes the last few games our form had increased and so has Ralls form ,Whitts is past it now


"Past it" is not an assessment backed up by actual facts Wez, which in this case are his stats. They don't match up to his stats six years ago etc, but they're still better than people who get put in his position when he's out of the team.

And in absolutely no way is Ralls a better player than Whitts. Not now, not ever.




Ralls at moment is not as good as whitts maybe couple of years time can be! But the point is ralls fits into NW game plan better than whitts does hence he's in team rather than whitts. :old:

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:17 am

City Slicker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
KWest wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
KWest wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:End of the day, Whitts is still one of our best attacking players - his assists and goals show that, year after year (including this one). So yes, I consider £8k a week a disgrace given we are supposedly paying him over £20k per week right now. It's not a true value of his worth to our team, and I honestly believe there are teams in this league that would die for Whitts to be in their starting eleven.

Just goes to show some of the shit that gets thrown Whitts' way by some of our fans. When folk like Hudson and co were shipped out, or pretty much forced to leave, everyone was calling it disgusting and disrespectful to players who had given us so much. Same pretty much being done to Whitts, but that's seemingly okay because for whatever goddamn reason some people just don't think he should be playing any more.

It's rubbish.


Hudson & co were forced out not offered a deal of 8k a week. How are you even comparing the two totally different scenarios??


They aren't different at all. We're offering Whitts a nearly 70% drop in his weekly income, pretty much forcing his hand to leave, whilst allowing ourselves to have a little bargain if he DOES sign because he IS better than most in our squad (he's also got the best delivery, etc).

All the people in here scoffing at £8k a week being a poor offer, or £400k per year, etc, are losing sight of the fact that he is a professional footballer currently living on an income significantly bigger than that. How about the rest of us take a nearly 70% pay drop from what we are used to earning, and see how that makes us feel?

He should've been offered about £15k, no lower.

780k a year for a player who can't even get in the first team come on get real Whitts best days are behind him now


You think Joe Ralls offers us more than Whitts?

Yes the last few games our form had increased and so has Ralls form ,Whitts is past it now


Ralls has been magnificent in the past few games and is playing better without Whittingham. He's growing in stature and has a great partnership with Gunnarsson who is the real star of our midfield.

I think 8k a week is a fair offer for someone who will spend most of his time on the bench. He's not likely to go hungry is he? I can understand it if he wants more regular football and it's possible some club might give him more opportunities than us. In which case he might leave.

Agree Ralls has been fantastic of late

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:20 am

KWest wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
KWest wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
KWest wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:End of the day, Whitts is still one of our best attacking players - his assists and goals show that, year after year (including this one). So yes, I consider £8k a week a disgrace given we are supposedly paying him over £20k per week right now. It's not a true value of his worth to our team, and I honestly believe there are teams in this league that would die for Whitts to be in their starting eleven.

Just goes to show some of the shit that gets thrown Whitts' way by some of our fans. When folk like Hudson and co were shipped out, or pretty much forced to leave, everyone was calling it disgusting and disrespectful to players who had given us so much. Same pretty much being done to Whitts, but that's seemingly okay because for whatever goddamn reason some people just don't think he should be playing any more.

It's rubbish.


Hudson & co were forced out not offered a deal of 8k a week. How are you even comparing the two totally different scenarios??


They aren't different at all. We're offering Whitts a nearly 70% drop in his weekly income, pretty much forcing his hand to leave, whilst allowing ourselves to have a little bargain if he DOES sign because he IS better than most in our squad (he's also got the best delivery, etc).

All the people in here scoffing at £8k a week being a poor offer, or £400k per year, etc, are losing sight of the fact that he is a professional footballer currently living on an income significantly bigger than that. How about the rest of us take a nearly 70% pay drop from what we are used to earning, and see how that makes us feel?

He should've been offered about £15k, no lower.

780k a year for a player who can't even get in the first team come on get real Whitts best days are behind him now


You think Joe Ralls offers us more than Whitts?

Yes the last few games our form had increased and so has Ralls form ,Whitts is past it now


"Past it" is not an assessment backed up by actual facts Wez, which in this case are his stats. They don't match up to his stats six years ago etc, but they're still better than people who get put in his position when he's out of the team.

And in absolutely no way is Ralls a better player than Whitts. Not now, not ever.

The stats don't lie ,we won more games when Whitts doesn't start and that's a fact especially the way warnock plays Whits is one of the main reason why over the last few years our midfield has been awfull he's just not mobile enough and constant

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:42 am

KWest wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:End of the day, Whitts is still one of our best attacking players - his assists and goals show that, year after year (including this one). So yes, I consider £8k a week a disgrace given we are supposedly paying him over £20k per week right now. It's not a true value of his worth to our team, and I honestly believe there are teams in this league that would die for Whitts to be in their starting eleven.

Just goes to show some of the shit that gets thrown Whitts' way by some of our fans. When folk like Hudson and co were shipped out, or pretty much forced to leave, everyone was calling it disgusting and disrespectful to players who had given us so much. Same pretty much being done to Whitts, but that's seemingly okay because for whatever goddamn reason some people just don't think he should be playing any more.

It's rubbish.


Hudson & co were forced out not offered a deal of 8k a week. How are you even comparing the two totally different scenarios??


They aren't different at all. We're offering Whitts a nearly 70% drop in his weekly income, pretty much forcing his hand to leave, whilst allowing ourselves to have a little bargain if he DOES sign because he IS better than most in our squad (he's also got the best delivery, etc).

All the people in here scoffing at £8k a week being a poor offer, or £400k per year, etc, are losing sight of the fact that he is a professional footballer currently living on an income significantly bigger than that. How about the rest of us take a nearly 70% pay drop from what we are used to earning, and see how that makes us feel?

He should've been offered about £15k, no lower.


A footballer in his 30's will expect a paydrop it's part of being in sport it's inevitable. We have a thread complaining about season ticket prices, club debts and your saying a player who will feature on the bench should be paid £15k. You also say one of our best attacking players?? Look at the team without him recently.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:44 am

WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:End of the day, Whitts is still one of our best attacking players - his assists and goals show that, year after year (including this one). So yes, I consider £8k a week a disgrace given we are supposedly paying him over £20k per week right now. It's not a true value of his worth to our team, and I honestly believe there are teams in this league that would die for Whitts to be in their starting eleven.

Just goes to show some of the shit that gets thrown Whitts' way by some of our fans. When folk like Hudson and co were shipped out, or pretty much forced to leave, everyone was calling it disgusting and disrespectful to players who had given us so much. Same pretty much being done to Whitts, but that's seemingly okay because for whatever goddamn reason some people just don't think he should be playing any more.

It's rubbish.


Hudson & co were forced out not offered a deal of 8k a week. How are you even comparing the two totally different scenarios??


They aren't different at all. We're offering Whitts a nearly 70% drop in his weekly income, pretty much forcing his hand to leave, whilst allowing ourselves to have a little bargain if he DOES sign because he IS better than most in our squad (he's also got the best delivery, etc).

All the people in here scoffing at £8k a week being a poor offer, or £400k per year, etc, are losing sight of the fact that he is a professional footballer currently living on an income significantly bigger than that. How about the rest of us take a nearly 70% pay drop from what we are used to earning, and see how that makes us feel?

He should've been offered about £15k, no lower.


A footballer in his 30's will expect a paydrop it's part of being in sport it's inevitable. We have a thread complaining about season ticket prices, club debts and your saying a player who will feature on the bench should be paid £15k. You also say one of our best attacking players?? Look at the team without him recently.

Some people want it all mate

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:44 am

KWest wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
cityblue wrote:I havent read all the comments and i'm sure theres alot i would agree and disagree with but i'm sorry, 8k pw is a derisory offer for a model professional who if you believe previous reports, coud'veleft along time ago but decided not to. I will admit i am a huge fan but i am not biased enough to believe that he will be a 1st team regular next year and he certainly doesnt influence games like he used to but even at his age, in the modern market, he is worth 10-14k a week. You may laugh at that but look at his stats again this season (bearing in mind we were struggling before NW). He has been involved in more of our goals than any other player (goals and assists). If we let him go it will be to another clubs advantage, especially on a free and 4-6k more than we are offering. I know we have to make sacrifices and money decisions to move forward but this 1 is wrong, wrong, wrong


You think 8k a week paid to a player who will be 33 next season and doesn't feature in the managers plans is derisory?? This is why you aren't a manager.

Nearly half a million a year :lol:


People keep saying another club will take him but I genuinely can't see any clubs beating those wages for a 33 year old. I'm a whitts fan but this is football it's about the now not the then.


What a stupid comment. You are aware of just how much OUR club offered and now pay Lambert right? There's always clubs out there willing to be good money to players who they think will make a difference.

And if football is about "now" not "then," we most certainly should be taking better care of Whitts given his goal involvement stats this year.


How is it a stupid comment? A stupid comment would be to bring up the wages of a player who was not signed under our current manager as some sort of way to defend high wages for whitts.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:47 am

wez1927 wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:End of the day, Whitts is still one of our best attacking players - his assists and goals show that, year after year (including this one). So yes, I consider £8k a week a disgrace given we are supposedly paying him over £20k per week right now. It's not a true value of his worth to our team, and I honestly believe there are teams in this league that would die for Whitts to be in their starting eleven.

Just goes to show some of the shit that gets thrown Whitts' way by some of our fans. When folk like Hudson and co were shipped out, or pretty much forced to leave, everyone was calling it disgusting and disrespectful to players who had given us so much. Same pretty much being done to Whitts, but that's seemingly okay because for whatever goddamn reason some people just don't think he should be playing any more.

It's rubbish.


Hudson & co were forced out not offered a deal of 8k a week. How are you even comparing the two totally different scenarios??


They aren't different at all. We're offering Whitts a nearly 70% drop in his weekly income, pretty much forcing his hand to leave, whilst allowing ourselves to have a little bargain if he DOES sign because he IS better than most in our squad (he's also got the best delivery, etc).

All the people in here scoffing at £8k a week being a poor offer, or £400k per year, etc, are losing sight of the fact that he is a professional footballer currently living on an income significantly bigger than that. How about the rest of us take a nearly 70% pay drop from what we are used to earning, and see how that makes us feel?

He should've been offered about £15k, no lower.


A footballer in his 30's will expect a paydrop it's part of being in sport it's inevitable. We have a thread complaining about season ticket prices, club debts and your saying a player who will feature on the bench should be paid £15k. You also say one of our best attacking players?? Look at the team without him recently.

Some people want it all mate


Yep some still want Tan out but can we keep his money.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:50 am

WelshPatriot wrote:
KWest wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
WelshPatriot wrote:
cityblue wrote:I havent read all the comments and i'm sure theres alot i would agree and disagree with but i'm sorry, 8k pw is a derisory offer for a model professional who if you believe previous reports, coud'veleft along time ago but decided not to. I will admit i am a huge fan but i am not biased enough to believe that he will be a 1st team regular next year and he certainly doesnt influence games like he used to but even at his age, in the modern market, he is worth 10-14k a week. You may laugh at that but look at his stats again this season (bearing in mind we were struggling before NW). He has been involved in more of our goals than any other player (goals and assists). If we let him go it will be to another clubs advantage, especially on a free and 4-6k more than we are offering. I know we have to make sacrifices and money decisions to move forward but this 1 is wrong, wrong, wrong


You think 8k a week paid to a player who will be 33 next season and doesn't feature in the managers plans is derisory?? This is why you aren't a manager.

Nearly half a million a year :lol:


People keep saying another club will take him but I genuinely can't see any clubs beating those wages for a 33 year old. I'm a whitts fan but this is football it's about the now not the then.


What a stupid comment. You are aware of just how much OUR club offered and now pay Lambert right? There's always clubs out there willing to be good money to players who they think will make a difference.

And if football is about "now" not "then," we most certainly should be taking better care of Whitts given his goal involvement stats this year.


How is it a stupid comment? A stupid comment would be to bring up the wages of a player who was not signed under our current manager as some sort of way to defend high wages for whitts.



You simply don't pay high wages to a player who obviously as a limited use for club and basically be on bench most of time! He either takes the money or he waits to see if anyone else is willing to pay him 20k + a week, he's got all season to make mind up, then it's upto club if they let him go or keep offer on table. :old:

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Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:08 am

As far as I'm concerned there is not a football player on the planet who warrants £8000 a week for a few hours training each day and a match once or twice a week lasting 90 minutes. Fans may say they draw in the crowds, but there were massive crowds attending when football players were'nt earning much more than the average man in the street. I think these wages have got way out of hand, and in many cases are obscene, particularly when you see players earn more in a day than many earn in a year, and will kiss a dozen different shirt badges during their career to ensure they maximise their signing on fees. At least you can't aim that criticism at Whittingham who has been a loyal, if extremely well paid servant to this club.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:47 pm

Nubbsy, its about time some on here learned their plaice. :lol:


i'll get my coat. :wave:

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:11 pm

Jules wrote:Nubbsy, its about time some on here learned their plaice. :lol:


i'll get my coat. :wave:


Boooooom Mic drop

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:58 pm

Don't see why age is a real factor in this when he has mustered up the stats he has this season and contributed to 28% of our goals this season so I don't get this he isn't up to it anymore comes from. I think a wage cut of half would have been fair.

When you look at the wages like people Lambert and Amos on I do think it is unfair on Whitts.

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:04 pm

Stats, goals, age, legs gone, not worth the money, does not fit into this teams formation, sorry lads Ralls might have the legs but he will never be as good as Whitts has been Simples

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:01 pm

I'm happy he's been offered £8k but I hope the bonus incentives are high because he's just a class act to have around the club. :ayatollah:

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:33 pm

Zabier wrote:The contract offered suggests the club want him gone. I agree, he has to accept taking a cut but a cut of nearly 66% is a bit much if those figures are true. I would expect him to be offered between £12k and £16k on a year-by-year basis. Let's be honest though, his best years are behind him and he's clearly not a Neil Warnock type of player. I think it's almost inevitable he'll leave. He's been a class act for us on and off the pitch. I'll always regard him as one of my favourite players. All good things come to an end though. He would leave with my best wishes and fondest memories. :ayatollah:

If the club wants him gone surely they want not offer him a contract!

Re: " CARDIFF CITY STAR COULD BE LEAVING ? "

Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:49 pm

nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
City Slicker wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
glyncoed4 wrote:let's be honest if any of us were offered 8 grand a week we would jump at it



And whats that got to do with the price of fish?

Fish is going up bloody Icelandic fishermen :lol:


You cod'nt hake it up.



Whitts will batter them!!! :D

:lol:



For fucks hake.

I think eel sign the contract :lol: