Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:40 pm
Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:37 am
DandoCCFC wrote:Imagine wanting your club to waste millions in an inflated market where we really have no ambition to finish to the play offs because even with signings we still wouldn't make it because how do you these players would improve the squad?
One from a pub team league and one from a division below who is gonna be Eoin Doyle in disguise in this division.
If you seriously think we should have thrown money in this window you must be silly.
Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:50 am
Forever Blue wrote:binero wrote:Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:Make your mind up Annis.
You moan about the debt, you want Tan out yet you still moan when he doesnt give the manager millions to spend.
Double standards.
If we were relegated Chris, the debt would be even bigger, we have had nearly three years of hardly any spending due to awful management from the top, now we finally have the right manager he needs backing.
Warnock has stated he does not want massive amounts.
Chris, why don't you be honest you don't like or rate Warnock.
Annis I think Warnock is the best manager we could have asked for but Warnock stated himself that he thinks the squad he's got was good enough to stay up ,nobody knows that for sure but in Warnock I trust but answer this question do you want more debt by buying players or Debt Free with Tan gone your choice ?
So why did Warnock ask for a striker,enquire about one and go after a winger if he did not them?
As to more debt ask the famous committee regarding their transfers,they keep on creating more debt Lambert,Huws,Amos,etc etc
As you said you trust Warnock, surely a proven manager like Warnock should be trusted with some money?
Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:56 am
binero wrote:Forever Blue wrote:binero wrote:Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:Make your mind up Annis.
You moan about the debt, you want Tan out yet you still moan when he doesnt give the manager millions to spend.
Double standards.
If we were relegated Chris, the debt would be even bigger, we have had nearly three years of hardly any spending due to awful management from the top, now we finally have the right manager he needs backing.
Warnock has stated he does not want massive amounts.
Chris, why don't you be honest you don't like or rate Warnock.
Annis I think Warnock is the best manager we could have asked for but Warnock stated himself that he thinks the squad he's got was good enough to stay up ,nobody knows that for sure but in Warnock I trust but answer this question do you want more debt by buying players or Debt Free with Tan gone your choice ?
So why did Warnock ask for a striker,enquire about one and go after a winger if he did not them?
As to more debt ask the famous committee regarding their transfers,they keep on creating more debt Lambert,Huws,Amos,etc etc
As you said you trust Warnock, surely a proven manager like Warnock should be trusted with some money?
So your Answer is whatever the cost of the player Warnock asked for you want Tan to dip his hand in his pocket thus add the the debt we have to him ?
Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:21 am
Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:24 am
wez1927 wrote:People moaning about matty Taylor we offered the same money but he chose bristol over us get over it ffs warnock said he won't over pay for players in the window and we didn't, we signed a few players since Warnock has been here and got rid of the deadwood
Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:19 am
Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:Make your mind up Annis.
You moan about the debt, you want Tan out yet you still moan when he doesnt give the manager millions to spend.
Double standards.
If we were relegated Chris, the debt would be even bigger, we have had nearly three years of hardly any spending due to awful management from the top, now we finally have the right manager he needs backing.
Warnock has stated he does not want massive amounts.
Chris, why don't you be honest you don't like or rate Warnock.
Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:22 am
Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:23 am
Forever Blue wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:By the way our saviour our manager missed over 20 calls on deadline day because he needed a nap......
So he's not the saviour this season? ? ?
Very honest man, needed his sleep
Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:25 am
polo wrote:Forever Blue wrote:WelshPatriot wrote:By the way our saviour our manager missed over 20 calls on deadline day because he needed a nap......
So he's not the saviour this season? ? ?
Very honest man, needed his sleep![]()
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I coulkd just imagine you saying that if Dave Jones or Russell Slade had made those comments.
Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:30 am
polo wrote:Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:Make your mind up Annis.
You moan about the debt, you want Tan out yet you still moan when he doesnt give the manager millions to spend.
Double standards.
If we were relegated Chris, the debt would be even bigger, we have had nearly three years of hardly any spending due to awful management from the top, now we finally have the right manager he needs backing.
Warnock has stated he does not want massive amounts.
Chris, why don't you be honest you don't like or rate Warnock.
RelegatedWe are 11 points safe with 17 games to go and weve got more than enough to stave off relegation we only need another 4 wins from 17 games and a couple of draws. If Warnock couldnt manage that with the squad hes got now then he doesnt deserve backing.
I like Neil Warnock as a person, I think hes an OK manager, certainly what we needed this season but do I think hes a manager with backing who can get us pushing for promotion? No I dont. Most of his 7 promotions were 20-30 years ago.
Also, I think hes doing and saying things that Russel Slade would have got crucified for. Couldnt be arsed to get out of bed for the cup game, went to bed on transfer deadline day then bemoans the fact an agent didnt call him back even though he had 40 missed calls
But all that aside youve avoided my intitial point in that you are being hypocriotical.
You moan about the debt, you want Tan out yet you now moan when Tan doesnt put his hand in his pocket.
You cant have it both ways.
Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:32 am
Sneggyblubird wrote:polo wrote:Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:Make your mind up Annis.
You moan about the debt, you want Tan out yet you still moan when he doesnt give the manager millions to spend.
Double standards.
If we were relegated Chris, the debt would be even bigger, we have had nearly three years of hardly any spending due to awful management from the top, now we finally have the right manager he needs backing.
Warnock has stated he does not want massive amounts.
Chris, why don't you be honest you don't like or rate Warnock.
RelegatedWe are 11 points safe with 17 games to go and weve got more than enough to stave off relegation we only need another 4 wins from 17 games and a couple of draws. If Warnock couldnt manage that with the squad hes got now then he doesnt deserve backing.
I like Neil Warnock as a person, I think hes an OK manager, certainly what we needed this season but do I think hes a manager with backing who can get us pushing for promotion? No I dont. Most of his 7 promotions were 20-30 years ago.
Also, I think hes doing and saying things that Russel Slade would have got crucified for. Couldnt be arsed to get out of bed for the cup game, went to bed on transfer deadline day then bemoans the fact an agent didnt call him back even though he had 40 missed calls
But all that aside youve avoided my intitial point in that you are being hypocriotical.
You moan about the debt, you want Tan out yet you now moan when Tan doesnt put his hand in his pocket.
You cant have it both ways.
Though I think your being harsh on Warnock I agree that too many on here want the penny and the bun.We'll all know soon enough,at the end of the season. He'll spell out to those concerned what he want's and if he doesn't get it he;ll be gone and then we'll all know.
Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:34 am
DandoCCFC wrote:Imagine wanting your club to waste millions in an inflated market where we really have no ambition to finish to the play offs because even with signings we still wouldn't make it because how do you these players would improve the squad?
One from a pub team league and one from a division below who is gonna be Eoin Doyle in disguise in this division.
If you seriously think we should have thrown money in this window you must be silly.
Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:34 am
Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:37 am
Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:41 am
Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:44 am
polo wrote:We are not going to go down, we are not going to go up so why squander money on fees and wages in the Jan transfer window that can be used in the summer?
Its no secret Tan is trying to make the club self sufficient (Which most of those now moaning have been asking for!!!) so if we save a couple of million now that can be added to the budget in the summer then whats the problem?!?!?!
Thu Feb 02, 2017 10:48 am
Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:We are not going to go down, we are not going to go up so why squander money on fees and wages in the Jan transfer window that can be used in the summer?
Its no secret Tan is trying to make the club self sufficient (Which most of those now moaning have been asking for!!!) so if we save a couple of million now that can be added to the budget in the summer then whats the problem?!?!?!
Because maybe Warnock wanted to build his team for next season around a new winger and a striker.
Our manager Warnock was the one asking for players, so I am just saying there must be a reason and he should be trusted and backed as it was not £millions.
Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:08 am
Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:12 am
polo wrote:Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:We are not going to go down, we are not going to go up so why squander money on fees and wages in the Jan transfer window that can be used in the summer?
Its no secret Tan is trying to make the club self sufficient (Which most of those now moaning have been asking for!!!) so if we save a couple of million now that can be added to the budget in the summer then whats the problem?!?!?!
Because maybe Warnock wanted to build his team for next season around a new winger and a striker.
Our manager Warnock was the one asking for players, so I am just saying there must be a reason and he should be trusted and backed as it was not £millions.
He can build in the summer and he already stated that the emergence of Zahore means he saved 1.5m in this window.
He also said he knows the striker he wants in the summer.
Try reading all the things that Neil Warnock says and not just the bits that suit your club bashing agenda Annis.
Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:19 am
wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:We are not going to go down, we are not going to go up so why squander money on fees and wages in the Jan transfer window that can be used in the summer?
Its no secret Tan is trying to make the club self sufficient (Which most of those now moaning have been asking for!!!) so if we save a couple of million now that can be added to the budget in the summer then whats the problem?!?!?!
Because maybe Warnock wanted to build his team for next season around a new winger and a striker.
Our manager Warnock was the one asking for players, so I am just saying there must be a reason and he should be trusted and backed as it was not £millions.
We are not going to go down, we are not going to go up so why squander money on fees and wages in the Jan transfer window that can be used in the summer?
He can build in the summer and he already stated that the emergence of Zahore means he saved 1.5m in this window.
He also said he knows the striker he wants in the summer.
Try reading all the things that Neil Warnock says and not just the bits that suit your club bashing agenda Annis.
Have to agree with you ,I think warnock is saving the money for the summer where more players will be available at better prices he's trimming the squad showing tan what he can do
Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:41 am
Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:47 am
polo wrote:Matty Taylor the new Messi
Reminds me of when Tom Adeymi went on loan to Leeds and started off well and was used as a stick to beat the club with like he was the new Patrick Viera
Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:48 am
Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:We are not going to go down, we are not going to go up so why squander money on fees and wages in the Jan transfer window that can be used in the summer?
Its no secret Tan is trying to make the club self sufficient (Which most of those now moaning have been asking for!!!) so if we save a couple of million now that can be added to the budget in the summer then whats the problem?!?!?!
Because maybe Warnock wanted to build his team for next season around a new winger and a striker.
Our manager Warnock was the one asking for players, so I am just saying there must be a reason and he should be trusted and backed as it was not £millions.
He can build in the summer and he already stated that the emergence of Zahore means he saved 1.5m in this window.
He also said he knows the striker he wants in the summer.
Try reading all the things that Neil Warnock says and not just the bits that suit your club bashing agenda Annis.
Chris, try reading Warnocks comments and he 100% wanted a winger now.
Its a good job your not the manager for Tan another yes man as we would of already been relegated
Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:51 am
polo wrote:Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:We are not going to go down, we are not going to go up so why squander money on fees and wages in the Jan transfer window that can be used in the summer?
Its no secret Tan is trying to make the club self sufficient (Which most of those now moaning have been asking for!!!) so if we save a couple of million now that can be added to the budget in the summer then whats the problem?!?!?!
Because maybe Warnock wanted to build his team for next season around a new winger and a striker.
Our manager Warnock was the one asking for players, so I am just saying there must be a reason and he should be trusted and backed as it was not £millions.
He can build in the summer and he already stated that the emergence of Zahore means he saved 1.5m in this window.
He also said he knows the striker he wants in the summer.
Try reading all the things that Neil Warnock says and not just the bits that suit your club bashing agenda Annis.
Chris, try reading Warnocks comments and he 100% wanted a winger now.
Its a good job your not the manager for Tan another yes man as we would of already been relegated
I highly doubt it. I could have got a lot further in my career if I was a yes man and just said the right thing but thats not my style. Ive seen many people get a leg up by being a kiss arse and saying the right thing but thats not me I say what I think, boss or not.
However Ive worked my way up the ladder by being logical and having commercial awareness and even though im an argumentative c*nt the boss still knows im good for the business. In our current position in the league, and financially, it makes financial sense to wait until the summer.
Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:57 am
Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:00 pm
DITH80 wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:We are not going to go down, we are not going to go up so why squander money on fees and wages in the Jan transfer window that can be used in the summer?
Its no secret Tan is trying to make the club self sufficient (Which most of those now moaning have been asking for!!!) so if we save a couple of million now that can be added to the budget in the summer then whats the problem?!?!?!
Because maybe Warnock wanted to build his team for next season around a new winger and a striker.
Our manager Warnock was the one asking for players, so I am just saying there must be a reason and he should be trusted and backed as it was not £millions.
We are not going to go down, we are not going to go up so why squander money on fees and wages in the Jan transfer window that can be used in the summer?
He can build in the summer and he already stated that the emergence of Zahore means he saved 1.5m in this window.
He also said he knows the striker he wants in the summer.
Try reading all the things that Neil Warnock says and not just the bits that suit your club bashing agenda Annis.
Have to agree with you ,I think warnock is saving the money for the summer where more players will be available at better prices he's trimming the squad showing tan what he can do
Top post!
Surely the view that any sensible supporter would have, unless they've got a hidden agenda off course.
Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:03 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:DITH80 wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:Forever Blue wrote:polo wrote:We are not going to go down, we are not going to go up so why squander money on fees and wages in the Jan transfer window that can be used in the summer?
Its no secret Tan is trying to make the club self sufficient (Which most of those now moaning have been asking for!!!) so if we save a couple of million now that can be added to the budget in the summer then whats the problem?!?!?!
Because maybe Warnock wanted to build his team for next season around a new winger and a striker.
Our manager Warnock was the one asking for players, so I am just saying there must be a reason and he should be trusted and backed as it was not £millions.
We are not going to go down, we are not going to go up so why squander money on fees and wages in the Jan transfer window that can be used in the summer?
He can build in the summer and he already stated that the emergence of Zahore means he saved 1.5m in this window.
He also said he knows the striker he wants in the summer.
Try reading all the things that Neil Warnock says and not just the bits that suit your club bashing agenda Annis.
Have to agree with you ,I think warnock is saving the money for the summer where more players will be available at better prices he's trimming the squad showing tan what he can do
Top post!
Surely the view that any sensible supporter would have, unless they've got a hidden agenda off course.
The same people were saying the same thing last season, and probably the season before. Then they were confident that we would be in the top two this season, play offs at least. The realistic people on here who knew that we had absolutely no chance of promotion were accused of club bashing and being pessimists. I call it being realistic, and the average bloke up the local pub could see that this squad was nowhere near good enough to challenge the top teams. The same thing will be brought up again this time next season, and the season after when it becomes obvious that once again we will be missing out on a top six place, and the same people will be saying we are building for the following season. I don't have a problem with the club slashing costs and reducing it's huge debts, but I am realistic enough and accept that while this is going on, we are not going to be able to bring in players with the quality to take us to the top.
Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:42 pm
Thu Feb 02, 2017 1:10 pm
Blueboys1927 wrote:When it comes to spending money we can't compete with bigger clubs than us in the championship like Sheffield Wed, Leeds, Derby,Forest,Norwich etc we should though be able to compete with comparable size clubs to ourselves such as Bristol city, Brentford, Rotherham and Burton Albion![]()