Poll Global warming hoax or real ?

Why was the gospel of science First calling it "global cooling", then flip-flopped to "global warming" until PC culture concocted it into "climate change".

Climate changes all the time! Believe it or not, it has more to do with the Sun... Yes I'm telling you the big ball of fire in the sky is the main influence on our temperature. Hard to comprehend I know.

Scienctists sure know how to tell a good story, and sure have fantastic Masonic and secret society connections... all with benevolent agendas of course.

It's not as if "green technologies" have been systematically suppressed for years? I mean that'd be stupid wouldn't it? Who could possibly have an agenda to block self-sustainable energy?

It's all very odd the very people and companies saying it's happening are funded by governments

It is isn't it. And the world economy, not to mention the largest governments all leaning on fossil fuels. ( you did read up on fossil fuels Wez? It was even written for children..)

I'm 50/50 on it ,they say the ice caps are melting but last year was record ice coverage so not to sure if it's man made or the earth has a natural cycle

Wez, I'm also 50/50 on this subject, so didn't vote. I think there is 'something' in man-made global warming but to what extent is pretty cloudy. Sadly, certain groups, scientists, tax-raising Governments, etc. have made many suspicious of their motives and (by default) their research results

What I am certain about is that there are inevitable 'cycles' in planetary temperatures as the sun also heats up and cools down in cycles (a fact) and weather history will show that we have gone through decades-long periods of both warm and cold temperature cycles

A few centuries ago, the Thames froze over and they were predicting another Ice Age and now they are predicting a global desert. Which is it? I think the answer is that no one really knows BUT it is reasonable to take ALL possible precautions to ensure that mankind cannot shy away from its own responsibilities and 'do their bit'

Sadly, responses like the one from Phil Davies (above) are a-typical of the entrenched thinking of many on both sides!

I'm 50/50 on it ,they say the ice caps are melting but last year was record ice coverage so not to sure if it's man made or the earth has a natural cycle

Wez, I'm also 50/50 on this subject, so didn't vote. I think there is 'something' in man-made global warming but to what extent is pretty cloudy. Sadly, certain groups, scientists, tax-raising Governments, etc. have made many suspicious of their motives and (by default) their research results

What I am certain about is that there are inevitable 'cycles' in planetary temperatures as the sun also heats up and cools down in cycles (a fact) and weather history will show that we have gone through decades-long periods of both warm and cold temperature cycles

A few centuries ago, the Thames froze over and they were predicting another Ice Age and now they are predicting a global desert. Which is it? I think the answer is that no one really knows BUT it is reasonable to take ALL possible precautions to ensure that mankind cannot shy away from its own responsibilities and 'do their bit'

Sadly, responses like the one from Phil Davies (above) are a-typical of the entrenched thinking of many on both sides!

I'm the same ,the planet is obviously warming up since the ice age but is it natural or man made or just a never ending cycle I really don't think anyone knows 100% ,people can mock me all they like but they are only going on information that could be wrong, 100s of years ago the the so called scientific big wigs thought the world was flat

Thing is Sven, it's to much important issue to let statements like " we used more fossil energy hundred years ago" , "it's all a conspiracy, says founder of weather channel" stand, it's so blatantly stupid.. Yes, you are dead right on solar changes Sven, according to science. It is actually the basis of the science of global warming, if it's not all a conspiracy. Worth the time reading.
http://m.earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Feat ... /page4.php

Thing is Sven, it's to much important issue to let statements like " we used more fossil energy hundred years ago" , "it's all a conspiracy, says founder of weather channel" stand, it's so blatantly stupid.. Yes, you are dead right on solar changes Sven, according to science. It is actually the basis of the science of global warming, if it's not all a conspiracy. Worth the time reading.
http://m.earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Feat ... /page4.php

Absolutely and I think I stated it's not all wrong. We certainly need to correct our thinking on many things that could be contributing in some part to the issue. I just believe that there is more of a 'nature' issue involved than some interested parties would have us believe

I'm 50/50 on it ,they say the ice caps are melting but last year was record ice coverage so not to sure if it's man made or the earth has a natural cycle

Wez, I'm also 50/50 on this subject, so didn't vote. I think there is 'something' in man-made global warming but to what extent is pretty cloudy. Sadly, certain groups, scientists, tax-raising Governments, etc. have made many suspicious of their motives and (by default) their research results

What I am certain about is that there are inevitable 'cycles' in planetary temperatures as the sun also heats up and cools down in cycles (a fact) and weather history will show that we have gone through decades-long periods of both warm and cold temperature cycles

A few centuries ago, the Thames froze over and they were predicting another Ice Age and now they are predicting a global desert. Which is it? I think the answer is that no one really knows BUT it is reasonable to take ALL possible precautions to ensure that mankind cannot shy away from its own responsibilities and 'do their bit'

Sadly, responses like the one from Phil Davies (above) are a-typical of the entrenched thinking of many on both sides!

agree with most of this except the final sentence. the entenched seem to be on the one side.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzCXwF39enc
this video PROVES nothing one way or other. but boy does ted cruz rip this top scientist to pieces. not some nut job of a weather chanel but a jusicary sub commitee. all this guy had was the 97 per cent of scientists survey which has been proved to be bogus.

Reminds me of a sentence in that movie Shine.. "where do all the hot water go Silvia" ..

I'm 50/50 on it ,they say the ice caps are melting but last year was record ice coverage so not to sure if it's man made or the earth has a natural cycle

Wez, I'm also 50/50 on this subject, so didn't vote. I think there is 'something' in man-made global warming but to what extent is pretty cloudy. Sadly, certain groups, scientists, tax-raising Governments, etc. have made many suspicious of their motives and (by default) their research results

What I am certain about is that there are inevitable 'cycles' in planetary temperatures as the sun also heats up and cools down in cycles (a fact) and weather history will show that we have gone through decades-long periods of both warm and cold temperature cycles

A few centuries ago, the Thames froze over and they were predicting another Ice Age and now they are predicting a global desert. Which is it? I think the answer is that no one really knows BUT it is reasonable to take ALL possible precautions to ensure that mankind cannot shy away from its own responsibilities and 'do their bit'

Sadly, responses like the one from Phil Davies (above) are a-typical of the entrenched thinking of many on both sides!

I'm the same ,the planet is obviously warming up since the ice age but is it natural or man made or just a never ending cycle I really don't think anyone knows 100% ,people can mock me all they like but they are only going on information that could be wrong, 100s of years ago the the so called scientific big wigs thought the world was flat

Out of interest Wez, how do you know that the earth isn't flat right now?

I'm 50/50 on it ,they say the ice caps are melting but last year was record ice coverage so not to sure if it's man made or the earth has a natural cycle

Wez, I'm also 50/50 on this subject, so didn't vote. I think there is 'something' in man-made global warming but to what extent is pretty cloudy. Sadly, certain groups, scientists, tax-raising Governments, etc. have made many suspicious of their motives and (by default) their research results

What I am certain about is that there are inevitable 'cycles' in planetary temperatures as the sun also heats up and cools down in cycles (a fact) and weather history will show that we have gone through decades-long periods of both warm and cold temperature cycles

A few centuries ago, the Thames froze over and they were predicting another Ice Age and now they are predicting a global desert. Which is it? I think the answer is that no one really knows BUT it is reasonable to take ALL possible precautions to ensure that mankind cannot shy away from its own responsibilities and 'do their bit'

Sadly, responses like the one from Phil Davies (above) are a-typical of the entrenched thinking of many on both sides!

I'm the same ,the planet is obviously warming up since the ice age but is it natural or man made or just a never ending cycle I really don't think anyone knows 100% ,people can mock me all they like but they are only going on information that could be wrong, 100s of years ago the the so called scientific big wigs thought the world was flat

Out of interest Wez, how do you know that the earth isn't flat right now?

Fly at 41,000 ft and you see the curvature

Altitude isn't so important, but having a clear view to the horizon in front of you is. The mere fact that things appear to "disappear" at some point is enough proof that the Earth is a sphere.
For an observer on the ground with eye level slightly below 6 feet, the horizon is at a distance of 2.9 miles. The horizon actually gets further away the higher you go. For an observer standing on a hill 100 feet in height, the horizon is at a distance of 12.2 miles.

Altitude isn't so important, but having a clear view to the horizon in front of you is. The mere fact that things appear to "disappear" at some point is enough proof that the Earth is a sphere.
For an observer on the ground with eye level slightly below 6 feet, the horizon is at a distance of 2.9 miles. The horizon actually gets further away the higher you go. For an observer standing on a hill 100 feet in height, the horizon is at a distance of 12.2 miles.

Still think it's easier at 41000 ft in a plane mate

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rming.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/~/article-4192182/index.html

oh its morphed into a flat earth thread.

oh its morphed into a flat earth thread.

So nearly 50/50 the poll is showing ,so who knows

So, when you are ill Wez. You don't go to the doctor. They will sell you medication, based on advice from the pharmacyticcall industry after all.. You make a poll on a football forum? The forum poll tell you, you are fine. But links supplied might indicate a diagnosis, or a variation of symptoms witch need investigation.
You choose to ignore it, because you won't die tomorrow?

So, when you are ill Wez. You don't go to the doctor. They will sell you medication, based on advice from the pharmacyticcall industry after all.. You make a poll on a football forum? The forum poll tell you, you are fine. But links supplied might indicate a diagnosis, or a variation of symptoms witch need investigation.
You choose to ignore it, because you won't die tomorrow?

OK roathy

There is over 90% scientific consensus of the human effect, and you go with the poll? If I called you stupid again, I'm sure I will be accused of not debating your opinions once more lol

So, when you are ill Wez. You don't go to the doctor. They will sell you medication, based on advice from the pharmacyticcall industry after all.. You make a poll on a football forum? The forum poll tell you, you are fine. But links supplied might indicate a diagnosis, or a variation of symptoms witch need investigation.
You choose to ignore it, because you won't die tomorrow?

Wezi doesnt have to pay for his medicine hes a hard working man whos paid his taxes all his working life.

I'm starting to think there maybe something to this climate change stuff after all. Six months ago it was quite warm, today it's facking freezing

Personally, I didn't vote, as it is my opinion that Global Warming is a mixture of things both natural (cyclical heating/cooling of the sun) and man-made (fossil fuels, disappearing forests, etc.)

According to many independent scientists (i.e. those without a vested interest via Government funding) the 'cyclical' thing is a bigger issue than the man-made one, although they recognise the contributory human factors

The human race needs to do whatever it can to mitigate the problems we have caused mainly since the Industrial Revolution but to discount the natural element is to misunderstand how the Earth has operated since it was formed

So, when you are ill Wez. You don't go to the doctor. They will sell you medication, based on advice from the pharmacyticcall industry after all.. You make a poll on a football forum? The forum poll tell you, you are fine. But links supplied might indicate a diagnosis, or a variation of symptoms witch need investigation.
You choose to ignore it, because you won't die tomorrow?

Wezi doesnt have to pay for his medicine hes a hard working man whos paid his taxes all his working life.

Exactly the amount of vat ,paye employers contribution ive paid over the last 20 years I want the best health care

There is over 90% scientific consensus of the human effect, and you go with the poll? If I called you stupid again, I'm sure I will be accused of not debating your opinions once more lol

So the 10 % could be right then ?

There is over 90% scientific consensus of the human effect, and you go with the poll? If I called you stupid again, I'm sure I will be accused of not debating your opinions once more lol

So the 10 % could be right then ?

No, 90% could be wrong. Still dosent change the need for precousion and a closer look at the symptoms. But according to a bigger poll, 16 % denies the possibility. Guess who are the bigger. Government with taxes, or industry producing carbon dioxide?
Sorry, forgot for a minute there, you dont give a shit either way

There is over 90% scientific consensus of the human effect, and you go with the poll? If I called you stupid again, I'm sure I will be accused of not debating your opinions once more lol

So the 10 % could be right then ?

there is NO evidence of Every scientist being asked.
there is however evidence of the people that conducted this much used poll excluding scientists who had a different view.
nobody other than conspiracy theorists .looneys and those with agendas regard it as an honest survey.

There is over 90% scientific consensus of the human effect, and you go with the poll? If I called you stupid again, I'm sure I will be accused of not debating your opinions once more lol

So the 10 % could be right then ?

there is NO evidence of Every scientist being asked.
there is however evidence of the people that conducted this much used poll excluding scientists who had a different view.
nobody other than conspiracy theorists .looneys and those with agendas regard it as an honest survey.

I honestly think that its earth natural cycle which has happened many times ice ages to warm periods there is so many different views and different reports for and against that it's hard to know 100% fir sure ,I'm sure 100% sure tho that government will use it to tax people as they are doing all ready

There is over 90% scientific consensus of the human effect, and you go with the poll? If I called you stupid again, I'm sure I will be accused of not debating your opinions once more lol

So the 10 % could be right then ?

there is NO evidence of Every scientist being asked.
there is however evidence of the people that conducted this much used poll excluding scientists who had a different view.
nobody other than conspiracy theorists .looneys and those with agendas regard it as an honest survey.

I honestly think that its earth natural cycle which has happened many times ice ages to warm periods there is so many different views and different reports for and against that it's hard to know 100% fir sure ,I'm sure 100% sure tho that government will use it to tax people as they are doing all ready

the middle east is full of oil which sugests rain forests at some point past. the erosion of the sphinx was caused by hundreds of years of torential rain.we know there was an ice age. and more recently the Thames regularly froze in 17th and 18th centuries. on the other hand records of temperatures and sea levels world wide have been kept for . only 200 years?

i do sway towards man made but the above does give me doubts

There is over 90% scientific consensus of the human effect, and you go with the poll? If I called you stupid again, I'm sure I will be accused of not debating your opinions once more lol

So the 10 % could be right then ?

there is NO evidence of Every scientist being asked.
there is however evidence of the people that conducted this much used poll excluding scientists who had a different view.
nobody other than conspiracy theorists .looneys and those with agendas regard it as an honest survey.

I honestly think that its earth natural cycle which has happened many times ice ages to warm periods there is so many different views and different reports for and against that it's hard to know 100% fir sure ,I'm sure 100% sure tho that government will use it to tax people as they are doing all ready

the middle east is full of oil which sugests rain forests at some point past. the erosion of the sphinx was caused by hundreds of years of torential rain.we know there was an ice age. and more recently the Thames regularly froze in 17th and 18th centuries. on the other hand records of temperatures and sea levels world wide have been kept for . only 200 years?

i do sway towards man made but the above does give me doubts

What's put doubts in my mind is the ozone layer has supposed to have repaired it self and record ice coverage of the antarctic

There is over 90% scientific consensus of the human effect, and you go with the poll? If I called you stupid again, I'm sure I will be accused of not debating your opinions once more lol

So the 10 % could be right then ?

there is NO evidence of Every scientist being asked.
there is however evidence of the people that conducted this much used poll excluding scientists who had a different view.
nobody other than conspiracy theorists .looneys and those with agendas regard it as an honest survey.

I honestly think that its earth natural cycle which has happened many times ice ages to warm periods there is so many different views and different reports for and against that it's hard to know 100% fir sure ,I'm sure 100% sure tho that government will use it to tax people as they are doing all ready

the middle east is full of oil which sugests rain forests at some point past. the erosion of the sphinx was caused by hundreds of years of torential rain.we know there was an ice age. and more recently the Thames regularly froze in 17th and 18th centuries. on the other hand records of temperatures and sea levels world wide have been kept for . only 200 years?

i do sway towards man made but the above does give me doubts

What's put doubts in my mind is the ozone layer has supposed to have repaired it self and record ice coverage of the antarctic

During the polar night last year, the North Pole was 36 degrees warmer than usual.

You say record ice coverage in the Antarctic, last year was recorded record lows of sea ice in the arctic and Antarctica,during November. This is the time when the region enters the cold darkness of winter.

An area the size of Denmark vanished in the arctic last year, during a period sea ice is usually growing.

Last November in the Antarctica the sea ice was more than double the previous record low for the month.

Surely you understand that C02 and methane warm the world up. And we are producing more now than ever before....