' UPDATED ' " SO NO POPPIES " BUT OTHER COUNTRIES YES

Gutless Welsh FA, disgusting cowards. They should have more respect for all the British soldiers who have given their lives so we can live in a free country and make the decisions that we feel are correct, and not to be dictated to by some suit wearing no marks working out of Switzerland for FIFA. Jonathan Ford hold your head in shame, you have disrespected people with far more pride than you will ever have, Gutless FAW

The FAW aren't 'gutless', and nor are they 'disgusting cowards'. They do have respect for those who have given their lives in conflict, as is evident in the statement they released earlier:

'On Wednesday (November 9), members of the squad and the British Legion took part in creating images for a portrait of Leigh Rhoose, the Welsh international goalkeeper who was killed during the Battle of the Somme 100 years ago.

Two hundred military personnel will be present at Cardiff City Stadium on Friday (November 11) to join the management, squad and members of the media in a two- minute silence ahead of training on the 11th hour. A wreath will be laid on the pitch while an image of the poppy will be displayed on the stadium screens and a bugler will play the Last Post.

Prior to kick off on Saturday, a mosaic depicting the poppy be will unveiled by Wales supporters in the Family Stand and the players will wear black armbands as a mark of respect throughout the match.

Members of the Flanders Welsh War Memorial at Langemark will also be in attendance to watch the match. Two years ago, the Welsh squad and management visited the Langemark site, as well as Artillery Wood Cemetery, and strong links have been maintained ever since.

On Remembrance Sunday (November 13), a delegation of management and players will be visiting a War Memorial to pay their respects at 11am.

JD Sports are also selling limited edition Wales home shirts with a poppy print and 100% of the profit from these sales will be donated to the Royal British Legion.'

Those are just a few things I've picked out which show quite clearly that the FAW has as much respect for our fallen as you could wish them to have.

They're also not being dictated to by FIFA. FIFA aren't to blame here. FIFA, or rather the International Football Association Board whose rules it enforces, are simply applying a particular law of the game. England and Scotland are being foolish and hypocritical in defying FIFA given that both FAs sit on IFAB, alongside Wales, Northern Ireland and FIFA. FIFA has many faults, but this issue isn't one of them.

Well done for answering each post seperately, I pretty much agree with everything you've said

Jonathan Ford, Chief Executive of the Football Association of Wales, said: “The FAW naturally wishes to respect and honour those who fought and lost their lives fighting for their country.

“As an Association we also have to respect the rules of FIFA and following long discussions with members of the FAW Council, staff, management and players, a decision has been made not to wear the poppy against Serbia.

“We felt unable to take the risk of a financial penalty or point deduction, however, as we always have done at this time of year, we will be paying our respects in other ways.”

Cowards......

I fail to see how they're being 'cowards' about this. They're being sensible.

The Irish, England and Scotland stood upto FIFA.....Explain how not gutless????

Gutless Welsh FA, disgusting cowards. They should have more respect for all the British soldiers who have given their lives so we can live in a free country and make the decisions that we feel are correct, and not to be dictated to by some suit wearing no marks working out of Switzerland for FIFA. Jonathan Ford hold your head in shame, you have disrespected people with far more pride than you will ever have, Gutless FAW

The FAW aren't 'gutless', and nor are they 'disgusting cowards'. They do have respect for those who have given their lives in conflict, as is evident in the statement they released earlier:

'On Wednesday (November 9), members of the squad and the British Legion took part in creating images for a portrait of Leigh Rhoose, the Welsh international goalkeeper who was killed during the Battle of the Somme 100 years ago.

Two hundred military personnel will be present at Cardiff City Stadium on Friday (November 11) to join the management, squad and members of the media in a two- minute silence ahead of training on the 11th hour. A wreath will be laid on the pitch while an image of the poppy will be displayed on the stadium screens and a bugler will play the Last Post.

Prior to kick off on Saturday, a mosaic depicting the poppy be will unveiled by Wales supporters in the Family Stand and the players will wear black armbands as a mark of respect throughout the match.

Members of the Flanders Welsh War Memorial at Langemark will also be in attendance to watch the match. Two years ago, the Welsh squad and management visited the Langemark site, as well as Artillery Wood Cemetery, and strong links have been maintained ever since.

On Remembrance Sunday (November 13), a delegation of management and players will be visiting a War Memorial to pay their respects at 11am.

JD Sports are also selling limited edition Wales home shirts with a poppy print and 100% of the profit from these sales will be donated to the Royal British Legion.'

Those are just a few things I've picked out which show quite clearly that the FAW has as much respect for our fallen as you could wish them to have.

They're also not being dictated to by FIFA. FIFA aren't to blame here. FIFA, or rather the International Football Association Board whose rules it enforces, are simply applying a particular law of the game. England and Scotland are being foolish and hypocritical in defying FIFA given that both FAs sit on IFAB, alongside Wales, Northern Ireland and FIFA. FIFA has many faults, but this issue isn't one of them.

Well done for answering each post seperately, I pretty much agree with everything you've said

.What a load of shit saying they were not able to take a financial risk etc The bottom line is IF the people we buy poppies for DID NOT RISK THEIR LIVES then we would not be here in the way we are to worry about financial risk etc .It is a DISGRACE Wales have opted out

Well, I was initially annoyed that the FAW were reluctant to allow the Wales football team to wear a Poppy but then I saw this on Facebook. The author is a personal friend, a man I respect immensely, a former CO in the British Armed Forces, a long time Wales follower and a Cardiff City season ticket holder alongside his son...

"This is a reply that I put on another post that was criticising the Welsh Football Team: I don't want to upset people but I'm not sure I totally agree with the current argument around our National football teams wearing poppies on their shirts this coming weekend. I am proud to wear a poppy and generally wear it from 1st Oct up to 12th Nov or after Remembrance Sunday. I don't however wear it when I go for a run or a bike ride. This idea of having poppies on sports tops is a recent thing and I would suggest only done at the top level. I don't imagine the Cogan Corornation wearing them, but I bet they will have a 2 minute silence before the game and possibly lay a wreath at the side of the pitch. Surely this is what happened before 'Sky' took over televised sport. I will be going to watch the football on Saturday and I will wear a poppy. I am confident that all our players will wear a poppy with pride for the rest of Saturday and I'm also sure that my National Team will at least lay a wreath and respect a 2 minute silence to honour all those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice for their country and I for one will be happy for that. I think the current arguments around the poppy are not helpful and are in a way making it, the poppy, a nationalistic and political issue which it is not and never should never be. We more than most know why we wear it and that is what is important. I am proud to be Welsh, proud to have served and thankful that I never had to pay the price that those who never came back did - rant over, sorry"

On reflection, I couldn't agree more with the words above and to my mind the FA and SFA have now wrongly 'politicised' to whole Remembrance event. I hope that people/fans (like the author above) choose to wear the Poppy for the right reasons rather than to make a political statement or in protest at the FAW who might just have made the more pragmatic decision

Excellent and sensible post.

The politicising of the poppy over the past decade has been a sad sight. The poppy had always represented freedom and remembrance to me. A beautiful symbol of 'never again.' Unfortunately, it's been hijacked by newspapers, media outlets and politicians as a political symbol and some of the hypocrisy is staggering.

There will be sober suited politicians laying poppy wreaths at the Cenotaph on Sunday who have disgracefully ignored the mental health plight of many former servicemen, failed to kit them out in proper gear in war zones, left millions of families bereaved in Iraq and who continue to sell arms to barbaric war criminals Saudi Arabia.

Let's take the nationalistic show pony, political aspect out of the poppy and let's get it back to what it once was - A symbol of rememberance and 'never again.'

.What a load of shit saying they were not able to take a financial risk etc The bottom line is IF the people we buy poppies for DID NOT RISK THEIR LIVES then we would not be here in the way we are to worry about financial risk etc .It is a DISGRACE Wales have opted out

It's a disgrace wales are wearing black armbands without a picture of a poppy on it? Why? Because the daily mail brigade have decided that we should follow what England are doing? England are only making this 'stance' because they're playing Scotland and know that Scotland won't make an official complaint and, in doing so, cause England to have a points deduction... not only that, England as well as the other home nations were the countries who create this FIFA ruling! Wales have been by far the most active home nation commemorating the war dead and hundred year anniversaries of ww1 battles this year and we will commemorate it again.. I'm glad we are not dancing to the tune of the fckin daily telegraph/mail to wear a small picture of a poppy on a black armband ffs! We are having a bigger commemoration than that with a huge poppy mural covering a quarter of the ground!

And I will be wearing a poppy Saturday as I always do to commemorate fallen family members as well as the other brave
soldiers who gave their lives

"England and Scotland say they will defy FIFA and wear poppies on armbands for their clash at Wembley on Friday night.

However, Wales' understanding is that for FIFA to sanction either nation, one would have to complain to the match commissioner about the other. Neither England nor Scotland, of course, will do that, although it remains to be seen whether they will still be punished.

Wales have been placed in a more awkward position, given Serbia may make a protest.

As such, they feel they cannot run the risk of being docked points in what is already the tightest of World Cup groups.

So I am told Serbia would not have made a complaint.

Well if the Serbs say they wont complain then it must be true........

Well, I was initially annoyed that the FAW were reluctant to allow the Wales football team to wear a Poppy but then I saw this on Facebook. The author is a personal friend, a man I respect immensely, a former CO in the British Armed Forces, a long time Wales follower and a Cardiff City season ticket holder alongside his son...

"This is a reply that I put on another post that was criticising the Welsh Football Team: I don't want to upset people but I'm not sure I totally agree with the current argument around our National football teams wearing poppies on their shirts this coming weekend. I am proud to wear a poppy and generally wear it from 1st Oct up to 12th Nov or after Remembrance Sunday. I don't however wear it when I go for a run or a bike ride. This idea of having poppies on sports tops is a recent thing and I would suggest only done at the top level. I don't imagine the Cogan Corornation wearing them, but I bet they will have a 2 minute silence before the game and possibly lay a wreath at the side of the pitch. Surely this is what happened before 'Sky' took over televised sport. I will be going to watch the football on Saturday and I will wear a poppy. I am confident that all our players will wear a poppy with pride for the rest of Saturday and I'm also sure that my National Team will at least lay a wreath and respect a 2 minute silence to honour all those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice for their country and I for one will be happy for that. I think the current arguments around the poppy are not helpful and are in a way making it, the poppy, a nationalistic and political issue which it is not and never should never be. We more than most know why we wear it and that is what is important. I am proud to be Welsh, proud to have served and thankful that I never had to pay the price that those who never came back did - rant over, sorry"

On reflection, I couldn't agree more with the words above and to my mind the FA and SFA have now wrongly 'politicised' to whole Remembrance event. I hope that people/fans (like the author above) choose to wear the Poppy for the right reasons rather than to make a political statement or in protest at the FAW who might just have made the more pragmatic decision

Excellent and sensible post.

The politicising of the poppy over the past decade has been a sad sight. The poppy had always represented freedom and remembrance to me. A beautiful symbol of 'never again.' Unfortunately, it's been hijacked by newspapers, media outlets and politicians as a political symbol and some of the hypocrisy is staggering.

There will be sober suited politicians laying poppy wreaths at the Cenotaph on Sunday who have disgracefully ignored the mental health plight of many former servicemen, failed to kit them out in proper gear in war zones, left millions of families bereaved in Iraq and who continue to sell arms to barbaric war criminals Saudi Arabia.

Let's take the nationalistic show pony, political aspect out of the poppy and let's get it back to what it once was - A symbol of rememberance and 'never again.'

Brilliant post! Someone speaking sense at last! Sorry, I should have said posts. Both extremely thought provoking!

Did the Cookie Monster have a choice?

Surely what the FAW are doing will have more reaction than the english and scottish wearing a poppy on a black armband, for those who do not know, cards on the seats in one stand, when held up will display one large poppy, and in the other stand cards held up will show one large welsh flag, should be pretty impressive

here is the link to what is happening

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... e-12156753



FA of Wales come up with a host of creative ideas involving their players and the magnificent fans, including creation of a giant poppy mural at key World Cup clash

Video thumbnail, Big Match Guide Wales v Serbia
Wales have come up with a number of creative ideas to pay their respects over Armistice Day and Remembrance Sunday after being officially banned by FIFA from wearing poppies on their shirts for the World Cup clash with Serbia.

And the most spectacular of the lot will involve thousands of fans behind one of the goals on Saturday night holding up coloured cards just before kick-off to create a mural of a giant poppy.

It promises to make an incredible sight that will be beamed back into homes throughout Europe.

The imaginative gesture, which can be revealed today, comes after FA of Wales officials held talks with the Royal British Legion about their plans in light of the FIFA ban.

Chris Coleman's side have conceded defeat in their wish to wear the poppy on their kit following top level behind the scenes negotiations with FIFA bigwigs that drew a blank.

FIFA have made it clear Wales could be landed with a hefty fine - or, even worse, docked three World Cup points - if Gareth Bale and his team-mates contravene their regulations of 'not displaying political or commercial' symbols on shirts. They were not for budging.

Wales fans salute their team
Welsh fans inside Cardiff City Stadium will be involved
Wales are unhappy, but respectful of FIFA's stance, and accept they have no option to abide by it.

So instead, the FA of Wales have been wonderfully creative to ensure they still pay their respects by coming up with various tributes over the coming days.

Those are:

* 200 military personnel will join Coleman's players at Cardiff City Stadium at 11am on Friday (Armistice Day) for a two-minute silence as training is halted. This will be done with members of the Royal British Legion who have been invited to the ground and an image of the poppy will be shown on the big screens.

Coleman and his skipper Ashley Williams will then step forward to lay wreaths on the pitch

* On the night of the game, fans in the Family Stand will find different colour cards on their seats. They will be asked to hold them up just after the national anthems are played to form a mural of a giant poppy, which will create an incredible sight.

At the other end of the ground in the Canton Stand, fans will hold up other cards to create a giant Welsh flag.

* Simultaneously, the FAW plan to display images on the big screens at either end of the stadium of former footballers who fought in the First World War.

* The Welsh players will wear plain black armbands, as opposed to armbands with a poppy on, as has happened previously. Special FIFA permission is also required for that simple gesture, but Wales have got that.


Video thumbnail, The day Gareth Bale and Wales paid their respects
* Wales and their kit manufacturer Adidas have also produced replica shirts bearing a poppy on the front, which go on sale ahead of the game. The proceeds from this will go to the Royal British Legion.

* Members of the Flanders Welsh War Memorial Langemark will also be in attendance to watch the match. Two years ago, the Welsh squad and management visited the Langemark site, as well as Artillery Wood Cemetery, and strong links have been maintained ever since.

* On Wednesday (November 9) members of the squad and the British Legion took part in creating images for a portrait of Leigh Rhoose, the Welsh international goalkeeper who was killed during the Battle of the Somme 100 years ago.

* On Remembrance Sunday (November 13), a delegation of management and players will be visiting a War Memorial to pay their respects at 11am.

The Wales football top
The replica shirts that will go on sale
England and Scotland say they will defy FIFA and wear poppies on armbands for their clash at Wembley on Friday night.

However, Wales' understanding is that for FIFA to sanction either nation, one would have to complain to the match commissioner about the other. Neither England nor Scotland, of course, will do that, although it remains to be seen whether they will still be punished.

Wales have been placed in a more awkward position, given Serbia may make a protest.

As such, they feel they cannot run the risk of being docked points in what is already the tightest of World Cup groups.

Coleman says he wants his players to wear the poppies, but has to be guided by his FAW employers.

Jonathan Ford, Chief Executive of the Football Association of Wales, said: “The FAW naturally wishes to respect and honour those who fought and lost their lives fighting for their country.

“As an Association we also have to respect the rules of FIFA and following long discussions with members of the FAW Council, staff, management and players, a decision has been made not to wear the poppy against Serbia.

“We felt unable to take the risk of a financial penalty or point deduction, however, as we always have done at this time of year, we will be paying our respects in other ways.”

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Well, I was initially annoyed that the FAW were reluctant to allow the Wales football team to wear a Poppy but then I saw this on Facebook. The author is a personal friend, a man I respect immensely, a former CO in the British Armed Forces, a long time Wales follower and a Cardiff City season ticket holder alongside his son...

"This is a reply that I put on another post that was criticising the Welsh Football Team: I don't want to upset people but I'm not sure I totally agree with the current argument around our National football teams wearing poppies on their shirts this coming weekend. I am proud to wear a poppy and generally wear it from 1st Oct up to 12th Nov or after Remembrance Sunday. I don't however wear it when I go for a run or a bike ride. This idea of having poppies on sports tops is a recent thing and I would suggest only done at the top level. I don't imagine the Cogan Corornation wearing them, but I bet they will have a 2 minute silence before the game and possibly lay a wreath at the side of the pitch. Surely this is what happened before 'Sky' took over televised sport. I will be going to watch the football on Saturday and I will wear a poppy. I am confident that all our players will wear a poppy with pride for the rest of Saturday and I'm also sure that my National Team will at least lay a wreath and respect a 2 minute silence to honour all those who have paid the ultimate sacrifice for their country and I for one will be happy for that. I think the current arguments around the poppy are not helpful and are in a way making it, the poppy, a nationalistic and political issue which it is not and never should never be. We more than most know why we wear it and that is what is important. I am proud to be Welsh, proud to have served and thankful that I never had to pay the price that those who never came back did - rant over, sorry"

On reflection, I couldn't agree more with the words above and to my mind the FA and SFA have now wrongly 'politicised' to whole Remembrance event. I hope that people/fans (like the author above) choose to wear the Poppy for the right reasons rather than to make a political statement or in protest at the FAW who might just have made the more pragmatic decision

Excellent and sensible post.

The politicising of the poppy over the past decade has been a sad sight. The poppy had always represented freedom and remembrance to me. A beautiful symbol of 'never again.' Unfortunately, it's been hijacked by newspapers, media outlets and politicians as a political symbol and some of the hypocrisy is staggering.

There will be sober suited politicians laying poppy wreaths at the Cenotaph on Sunday who have disgracefully ignored the mental health plight of many former servicemen, failed to kit them out in proper gear in war zones, left millions of families bereaved in Iraq and who continue to sell arms to barbaric war criminals Saudi Arabia.

Let's take the nationalistic show pony, political aspect out of the poppy and let's get it back to what it once was - A symbol of rememberance and 'never again.'

Chris and Phil, Excellent posts

Has the world gone crazy!!! Who ever has made this decision should resign from the FAW! This is much bigger than a game of football or a world cup. These people gave their lives so we are free to go and watch this match in the first place. So angry about this.... Who cares about the fine... I would refuse to pay it and let them give us a point deduction. I'm just glad these FAW mugs weren't around during the second world war... They would have rolled over and had their bellies tickled.

Shameful decision by the FAW. They deserve a backlash from fans. FAW worried about a point deduction after many thousands of people lost their lives - DISGRACEFUL. Who cares if we don't qualify. I go to every Wales game home and away. Does qualification really matter???

Gutless Welsh FA, disgusting cowards. They should have more respect for all the British soldiers who have given their lives so we can live in a free country and make the decisions that we feel are correct, and not to be dictated to by some suit wearing no marks working out of Switzerland for FIFA. Jonathan Ford hold your head in shame, you have disrespected people with far more pride than you will ever have, Gutless FAW

The FAW aren't 'gutless', and nor are they 'disgusting cowards'. They do have respect for those who have given their lives in conflict, as is evident in the statement they released earlier:

'On Wednesday (November 9), members of the squad and the British Legion took part in creating images for a portrait of Leigh Rhoose, the Welsh international goalkeeper who was killed during the Battle of the Somme 100 years ago.

Two hundred military personnel will be present at Cardiff City Stadium on Friday (November 11) to join the management, squad and members of the media in a two- minute silence ahead of training on the 11th hour. A wreath will be laid on the pitch while an image of the poppy will be displayed on the stadium screens and a bugler will play the Last Post.

Prior to kick off on Saturday, a mosaic depicting the poppy be will unveiled by Wales supporters in the Family Stand and the players will wear black armbands as a mark of respect throughout the match.

Members of the Flanders Welsh War Memorial at Langemark will also be in attendance to watch the match. Two years ago, the Welsh squad and management visited the Langemark site, as well as Artillery Wood Cemetery, and strong links have been maintained ever since.

On Remembrance Sunday (November 13), a delegation of management and players will be visiting a War Memorial to pay their respects at 11am.

JD Sports are also selling limited edition Wales home shirts with a poppy print and 100% of the profit from these sales will be donated to the Royal British Legion.'

Those are just a few things I've picked out which show quite clearly that the FAW has as much respect for our fallen as you could wish them to have.

They're also not being dictated to by FIFA. FIFA aren't to blame here. FIFA, or rather the International Football Association Board whose rules it enforces, are simply applying a particular law of the game. England and Scotland are being foolish and hypocritical in defying FIFA given that both FAs sit on IFAB, alongside Wales, Northern Ireland and FIFA. FIFA has many faults, but this issue isn't one of them.

Well done for answering each post seperately, I pretty much agree with everything you've said

Yes, quite right! I rarely agree with you on anything Cwmann but you have laid out some good arguments here and total respect for answering each and every post with a reasoned reply

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Shameful decision by the FAW. They deserve a backlash from fans. FAW worried about a point deduction after many thousands of people lost their lives - DISGRACEFUL. Who cares if we don't qualify. I go to every Wales game home and away. Does qualification really matter???

I trust you felt the same last year when Wales played without poppys on November13th? Or is it because England are wearing them this year you feel angrier?

Has the world gone crazy!!! Who ever has made this decision should resign from the FAW! This is much bigger than a game of football or a world cup. These people gave their lives so we are free to go and watch this match in the first place. So angry about this.... Who cares about the fine... I would refuse to pay it and let them give us a point deduction. I'm just glad these FAW mugs weren't around during the second world war... They would have rolled over and had their bellies tickled.

Hope you protested last year as well.

Welsh Patriot? Patriot of what exactly?

I hope all those bleating about how disgusting the welsh fa are, will turn up early pitchside to be a part of the many massive rememberance events the faw HAVE arranged rather than moaning about the one they can't.

Reading between the lines it is against rules according to fifa? That gives Serbia the right to complain so risking Wales getting points deduction if they do so? If i was them i would complain! would people be happy for Wales to have say 2pnts deducted? Totally different scenario for eng /scot as neither will complain.

Sometimes you've just got to do what's right

Reading between the lines it is against rules according to fifa? That gives Serbia the right to complain so risking Wales getting points deduction if they do so? If i was them i would complain! would people be happy for Wales to have say 2pnts deducted? Totally different scenario for eng /scot as neither will complain.

Sometimes you've just got to do what's right

It's not as if it will not be celebrated in several ways before game isn't that sufficient ? As pointed out this is fairly new thing and not entwined in football history! Plus garaunteed that if fifa did deduct points the outcry would be deafening as well

Reading between the lines it is against rules according to fifa? That gives Serbia the right to complain so risking Wales getting points deduction if they do so? If i was them i would complain! would people be happy for Wales to have say 2pnts deducted? Totally different scenario for eng /scot as neither will complain.

Sometimes you've just got to do what's right

It's not as if it will not be celebrated in several ways before game isn't that sufficient ? As pointed out this is fairly new thing and not entwined in football history! Plus garaunteed that if fifa did deduct points the outcry would be deafening as well

Suppose different people have different priorities. For some remembering the millions who sacrificed their lives is more important than 2 points from a game of football. Others may decide the points mean more. Everyone entitled to their own opinions.

Reading between the lines it is against rules according to fifa? That gives Serbia the right to complain so risking Wales getting points deduction if they do so? If i was them i would complain! would people be happy for Wales to have say 2pnts deducted? Totally different scenario for eng /scot as neither will complain.

Sometimes you've just got to do what's right

It's not as if it will not be celebrated in several ways before game isn't that sufficient ? As pointed out this is fairly new thing and not entwined in football history! Plus garaunteed that if fifa did deduct points the outcry would be deafening as well

Suppose different people have different priorities. For some remembering the millions who sacrificed their lives is more important than 2 points from a game of football. Others may decide the points mean more. Everyone entitled to their own opinions.

Quite true remembering is most important thing regardless of how it's done? I feel all the stuff before game is sufficient to honour the memory of those who died and arm band/poppy is not required .

One big black circle in centre of red shirt, problem solved and no comeback from FIFA.

I'm sorry but i can't agree with the people saying that the minutes silence is enough etc. I commend the work the welsh squad and the FAW have done around the other situations i.e. the respect shown in France, Aberfan and the respect shown today but the decision not to wear a poppy tomorrow is unacceptable .

Why do club sides wear the poppy on their shirts? Why do players wear black armbands? Its to show the mark of respect when they have the biggest amount of coverage. What this has done and especially as Scotland and England have refused this ridiculous rule is highlight The FAWs decision.

In my opinion there's no difference in wearing this poppy to wearing black armbands for the loss of Speedo and you should never change your beliefs or morals for one stupid woman in a corrupt federation.

Wear your poppy with ...PRIDE....not be ashamed or worried...

"I felt then, as I feel now, that the politicians who took us to war should have been given the guns and told to go and settle their differences themselves, instead of organising nothing better than legalised mass murder."

Harry Patch - Britains last Tommy 1898-2009

Let the words of Harry Patch sink in.

The poppy is not meant to be something used as a political football by football associations, newspapers, populist politicians or anyone else. Whether a poppy is on a football shirt or not, whether you choose to wear one or not (and, remember, our forefathers fought for the freedom to be able to choose..) it really doesn't matter. Nor does it matter how each of us chooses to pay our respects. Put some money in the collection box or provide some support to an ex serviceman or woman struggling to cope with their experiences.

The poppy appeal is not about who can shout the loudest. Very often, empty vessels make the most noise..