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Re: ' UPDATED ' ONE OF THE BIGGEST SHOCKS IN THE WORLD '

Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:07 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
alexc wrote:and let's not forget the little fact that more people voted for Clinton than they did for Trump


Did you actually read my post? There were George Soros voting machines across 16 US States switching Trump votes to Hillary votes. Read the link I just posted about it happening in Pittsburgh. The majority voted for Trump, but a portion of the votes for Trump were switched to Hillary to make the result look a lot closer than it actually was.

24,000 machines throughout the country, 25 were found to be faulty and had to be re-calibrated. The voters using the machines could clearly see the candidate's name that their vote had gone to, and where the incorrect name was showing, it was corrected after re-calibration. Another conspiracy theory?

Re: ' UPDATED ' ONE OF THE BIGGEST SHOCKS IN THE WORLD '

Thu Nov 10, 2016 1:48 pm

alexc wrote:
wez1927 wrote:the normal working class people have spoken in britain and usa ,stuck two fingers up to the establishment and corrupt elites



Well, the majority in the US wanted Hillary.
The total vote so far,
Hillary Clinton 59,602,283
Donald Trump 59,396,462

Of the people who voted most wanted Clinton.


That's certainly a fair point but it has to be put into the context of the voting system used in the USA which is not a first past the post (as in the BREXIT referendum) or even a constituency system used in UK General Elections.

The US system uses an Electoral College system where the number of votes each state is fixed. In the UK there are over 600 constituencies all worth ONE vote.

However, in America there are 50 states and the weight they carry varies massively e.g. California gets 55 votes Alaska just 3.

The system will dictate how the candidates target their campaigns. It was pointless Trump targeting California as it is solid Democratic territory so the battle came down to the 'swing states' of Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin. Trump took enough of these states to get over the line.

The anomaly you point out comes from the fact that no matter how many people voted Democrat in big population states like New York or California it still only counted for the same number of Electoral College votes.

Had the system been a BREXIT style vote then Trump would have needed to change his tactics as every vote would have counted. The system used in the US has been around for centuries so it’s not Donald Trump’s fault that he won the election without the majority of the public vote.