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Re: JEREMY CORBYN IN MERTHYR FRIDAY

Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:37 pm

spike ferndale wrote:Well Wez you have just shown your true colours.

You are a closet COMMUNIST lol

far from that mate I believe in business and I wouldn't have everything nationalised either

Re: JEREMY CORBYN IN MERTHYR FRIDAY

Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:40 pm

AfanBluebird wrote:
wez1927 wrote:we the people should of had votes on key issues like all the treaties in the past about Europe that took our sovereignty away ,replacing trident ,going to war it shouldn't be left just to mps the people should decide just like the eu referendum,the mps tend to forget it's our will they should be serving the majority not the minority


But that's democracy Wez? We vote these people in to represent you. I'm not going to get into the EU or Europe as you called it. But every 5 years, you have a vote to remove that person representing you. If enough people feel the same as you, then great. But giving people a referendum on EVERYTHING this country decides to do is a waste of time and money to be quite frank.

If I wasn't already affiliated to a political party (and it's not labour) and was undecided in a general election, you probably would have failed to pursaude me to vote for UKIP. And that's where I do feel your party will struggle in the next elections. For the past 10 years, UKIP have drove the Vote Leave and anti-EU way of life, but now they have nothing to stand for. Independance is in their name, even though we never will be truly independent due to being apart of every worldwide organisation, I think the time is up. And Nigel Farage knew it.

:thumbup:
is it really democracy ukip 4 million votes 1 seat ,snp 2 million votes 50 seats ?
would still prefer to vote ukip than the other crock of shits

Re: JEREMY CORBYN IN MERTHYR FRIDAY

Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:19 pm

I agree with the gist of what Wez is saying here. It't called Federal UK and something I have long advocated. England need regional assemblies too, only London, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have one at the minute which leaves the rest of England at a disadvantage. I'd cut the amount of MPs down to 200 or so and Westminster will only be used for debating national issues such as defence and immigration. The regional assemblies will be given tax powers and have full responsibility in how they spend it.

Secondly more referendums is a good idea too, they do this in Switzerland where they set out a few dates a year and have multiple referendums on multiple issues. The government then listens to the people and acts according to the result. Local cantons (Swiss councils) can add local issue referendums too. I do think what happens to the M4 relief road should be decided by the people, the authorities should come up with the options and lets us decide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_referendums,_2016

Re: JEREMY CORBYN IN MERTHYR FRIDAY

Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:51 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:I agree with the gist of what Wez is saying here. It't called Federal UK and something I have long advocated. England need regional assemblies too, only London, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have one at the minute which leaves the rest of England at a disadvantage. I'd cut the amount of MPs down to 200 or so and Westminster will only be used for debating national issues such as defence and immigration. The regional assemblies will be given tax powers and have full responsibility in how they spend it.

Secondly more referendums is a good idea too, they do this in Switzerland where they set out a few dates a year and have multiple referendums on multiple issues. The government then listens to the people and acts according to the result. Local cantons (Swiss councils) can add local issue referendums too. I do think what happens to the M4 relief road should be decided by the people, the authorities should come up with the options and lets us decide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_referendums,_2016

I don't know how in practice it would work but I believe it would mean we would be in control of our own country more do away with a lot of layers of national government