France Just Raided 200 Mosques… What They Found Inside

British Foreign Policy since WW2
1948 Malaya Britain resettled hundreds of thousands Chinese malays (defence of the rubber industry)
1952 Kenya hundreds of thousands put in concentration camps. 150,000 Africans die
1953 Iranian Government overthrown in MI6/CIA plot
1956 Britain invades Egypt to try to remove President Nasser
1958 Britain invades Jordan and fabricates a coup
1961 Britain invades Kuwait and fabricates a plot that Iraq was going to invade
1962 MI6 and SAS covert operation in Yemen. Around 200,000 dead
1964 Britain begins war in Oman against the Popular front for Liberation of the Arabian Gulf
1965 Britain supported the Indonesian Army against supporters of Indonesian Communist Party. 1,000,000 slaughterd
1968 Britain removed the population of 1,500 in Diego Garcia (Chagos Islands)
1970 British coup in Oman to remove ruler
1975 Indonesia invades East Timor 200,000 deaths. British Ambassador says Indonesia should absorb east Timor as soon as poss.
1980 MI6 begins covert operations in Afghanistan to train mojahidin groups fighting Soviet occupation
1985 Britain signs £50 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia
1986 Britain supplies Afghan Mojahdin group with ground to air missiles. Some of which were used to shoot passenger planes.
1991 Britain bombs Iraq
1991 Indonesian Army massacre hundreds of peaceful demonstrators in Dili, east Timor. Britain continues to supply with arms
1993 US conducts missile attacks on Iraq. Britain provides political support
1994 Rwanda genocide begins 1,000,000 killed. Britain effectively aids slaughter by helping to reduce the UN force that could have prevented the killings
1996 Assassination and coup attempts against Libya's colonel Qadafi, MI6 backing and funds
1996 US conduct missile strikes against Iraq. Britain gives political support.
1996 Britain supplies Indonesia with armoured cars to repress demonstrators
1998 US launches missile attack on Sudan and blows up a pharmaceutical factory. Britain supplies political support
1999 5000 are killed in east Timor by Indonesian Army. Britain continues arms sales
2001 US and Britain begin massive bombing campaign in Afghanistan

I haven't included British government complicity in Chchnya, Yugoslavia,Bahrain, Panama, Nicaragua and Grenada, Vietnam and British Guiana and you wonder why the West is under attack. I have taken you as far as 2001, you can find out the rest for yourselves it's not hard to find. But if you want to come on here and discuss these matters, make an effort to learn the facts first. Don't believe all you read in the papers or see on BBC News. The information is there on the Internet. All of the information above is on declassified information and available to everyone. For anyone to make the statement, that they hate all muslims is very sad indeed. Look at the big picture, the terrorists want us to hate all muslims.

By that logic the UK should off load the blame to Norway for what the Vikings did a 1000 years ago

A terrorist is a terrorist and trying to offload the blame is disgusting, indeed YOU need to look at the bigger picture.

The point I was trying to make about the poster is that it was clearly amateurish in its format and content and pitched at the lowest common denominator of an audience who wouldn't think to question the accuracy of its claims.

The overall issue that terrorism is a problem needing urgent attention is not in doubt. The solution is not simple and is certainly not to blame an entire race or religion as a whole for the disgusting actions of a small minority.

Are they a small minority? For every terrorist there is a logistical supply of money weapons and know how. Added to that the thousands who turn a blind eye due to religious loyalty that one Muslim will not act against another Muslim.

The most ignorant are the wider Muslim community who have shown passive support for terrorists as they offer little intelligence into what is going on within their own enclaves in Cities all over Europe.

Try living within a Muslim majority area of any Town/City and you would soon get an insight to just how bad things are and how frightening the future could be if we don't wake up and start doing something about it.

The point I was trying to make about the poster is that it was clearly amateurish in its format and content and pitched at the lowest common denominator of an audience who wouldn't think to question the accuracy of its claims.

The overall issue that terrorism is a problem needing urgent attention is not in doubt. The solution is not simple and is certainly not to blame an entire race or religion as a whole for the disgusting actions of a small minority.

Are they a small minority? For every terrorist there is a logistical supply of money weapons and know how. Added to that the thousands who turn a blind eye due to religious loyalty that one Muslim will not act against another Muslim.

The most ignorant are the wider Muslim community who have shown passive support for terrorists as they offer little intelligence into what is going on within their own enclaves in Cities all over Europe.

Try living within a Muslim majority area of any Town/City and you would soon get an insight to just how bad things are and how frightening the future could be if we don't wake up and start doing something about it.

What percentage of the nearly 3 million muslims in the UK would you class as terrorists then?

I think you've been reading too many tabloids.

And yes, I've lived in areas populated with people of all races, and don't feel that I need to "wake up and start doing something about it".

British Foreign Policy since WW2
1948 Malaya Britain resettled hundreds of thousands Chinese malays (defence of the rubber industry)
1952 Kenya hundreds of thousands put in concentration camps. 150,000 Africans die
1953 Iranian Government overthrown in MI6/CIA plot
1956 Britain invades Egypt to try to remove President Nasser
1958 Britain invades Jordan and fabricates a coup
1961 Britain invades Kuwait and fabricates a plot that Iraq was going to invade
1962 MI6 and SAS covert operation in Yemen. Around 200,000 dead
1964 Britain begins war in Oman against the Popular front for Liberation of the Arabian Gulf
1965 Britain supported the Indonesian Army against supporters of Indonesian Communist Party. 1,000,000 slaughterd
1968 Britain removed the population of 1,500 in Diego Garcia (Chagos Islands)
1970 British coup in Oman to remove ruler
1975 Indonesia invades East Timor 200,000 deaths. British Ambassador says Indonesia should absorb east Timor as soon as poss.
1980 MI6 begins covert operations in Afghanistan to train mojahidin groups fighting Soviet occupation
1985 Britain signs £50 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia
1986 Britain supplies Afghan Mojahdin group with ground to air missiles. Some of which were used to shoot passenger planes.
1991 Britain bombs Iraq
1991 Indonesian Army massacre hundreds of peaceful demonstrators in Dili, east Timor. Britain continues to supply with arms
1993 US conducts missile attacks on Iraq. Britain provides political support
1994 Rwanda genocide begins 1,000,000 killed. Britain effectively aids slaughter by helping to reduce the UN force that could have prevented the killings
1996 Assassination and coup attempts against Libya's colonel Qadafi, MI6 backing and funds
1996 US conduct missile strikes against Iraq. Britain gives political support.
1996 Britain supplies Indonesia with armoured cars to repress demonstrators
1998 US launches missile attack on Sudan and blows up a pharmaceutical factory. Britain supplies political support
1999 5000 are killed in east Timor by Indonesian Army. Britain continues arms sales
2001 US and Britain begin massive bombing campaign in Afghanistan

I haven't included British government complicity in Chchnya, Yugoslavia,Bahrain, Panama, Nicaragua and Grenada, Vietnam and British Guiana and you wonder why the West is under attack. I have taken you as far as 2001, you can find out the rest for yourselves it's not hard to find. But if you want to come on here and discuss these matters, make an effort to learn the facts first. Don't believe all you read in the papers or see on BBC News. The information is there on the Internet. All of the information above is on declassified information and available to everyone. For anyone to make the statement, that they hate all muslims is very sad indeed. Look at the big picture, the terrorists want us to hate all muslims.

By that logic the UK should off load the blame to Norway for what the Vikings did a 1000 years ago

A terrorist is a terrorist and trying to offload the blame is disgusting, indeed YOU need to look at the bigger picture.

Not getting involved however that excuse is exactly why the vikings invaded, because the king of Northumbria captured and killed ragnar Sigurdson, so then his sons brought the great heathen army.

The point I was trying to make about the poster is that it was clearly amateurish in its format and content and pitched at the lowest common denominator of an audience who wouldn't think to question the accuracy of its claims.

The overall issue that terrorism is a problem needing urgent attention is not in doubt. The solution is not simple and is certainly not to blame an entire race or religion as a whole for the disgusting actions of a small minority.

Are they a small minority? For every terrorist there is a logistical supply of money weapons and know how. Added to that the thousands who turn a blind eye due to religious loyalty that one Muslim will not act against another Muslim.

The most ignorant are the wider Muslim community who have shown passive support for terrorists as they offer little intelligence into what is going on within their own enclaves in Cities all over Europe.

Try living within a Muslim majority area of any Town/City and you would soon get an insight to just how bad things are and how frightening the future could be if we don't wake up and start doing something about it.

Tony. Yes those who support terrorists from within their own ethnic communities are indeed a very small minority. There is still considerable work to be done in capturing the hearts and minds of more in those communities to more openly condemn the atrocious actions of those tiny minorities.
Hopefully, this will lead to greater pressure on the terrorists to convert to peaceful means to make their political point. This happened, eventually, in Northern Ireland where both the Catholic and Protestant communities came to realise that violence would not achieve anything but major grief for everyone.
As for weapon supplies, most of those used came from the likes of France, Russia and the UK.
I have lived in a number of communities in London and the East Midlands with what were probably Muslim majorities ( I say probably because I didn't feel the need to ask for the exact figures) and can honestly say that things were nowhere near as bad as you suggest. Have you lived in such communities or just basing your assumptions on hearsay ( not meant as a dig , just asking)?

The point I was trying to make about the poster is that it was clearly amateurish in its format and content and pitched at the lowest common denominator of an audience who wouldn't think to question the accuracy of its claims.

The overall issue that terrorism is a problem needing urgent attention is not in doubt. The solution is not simple and is certainly not to blame an entire race or religion as a whole for the disgusting actions of a small minority.

Are they a small minority? For every terrorist there is a logistical supply of money weapons and know how. Added to that the thousands who turn a blind eye due to religious loyalty that one Muslim will not act against another Muslim.

The most ignorant are the wider Muslim community who have shown passive support for terrorists as they offer little intelligence into what is going on within their own enclaves in Cities all over Europe.

Try living within a Muslim majority area of any Town/City and you would soon get an insight to just how bad things are and how frightening the future could be if we don't wake up and start doing something about it.

Tony. Yes those who support terrorists from within their own ethnic communities are indeed a very small minority. There is still considerable work to be done in capturing the hearts and minds of more in those communities to more openly condemn the atrocious actions of those tiny minorities.
Hopefully, this will lead to greater pressure on the terrorists to convert to peaceful means to make their political point. This happened, eventually, in Northern Ireland where both the Catholic and Protestant communities came to realise that violence would not achieve anything but major grief for everyone.
As for weapon supplies, most of those used came from the likes of France, Russia and the UK.
I have lived in a number of communities in London and the East Midlands with what were probably Muslim majorities ( I say probably because I didn't feel the need to ask for the exact figures) and can honestly say that things were nowhere near as bad as you suggest. Have you lived in such communities or just basing your assumptions on hearsay ( not meant as a dig , just asking)?

there been polls all around the country in Muslim areas with most saying 3 in 5 Muslim supports isis doesn't sound like a small minority ,you need to wake up and open your eyes up

The point I was trying to make about the poster is that it was clearly amateurish in its format and content and pitched at the lowest common denominator of an audience who wouldn't think to question the accuracy of its claims.

The overall issue that terrorism is a problem needing urgent attention is not in doubt. The solution is not simple and is certainly not to blame an entire race or religion as a whole for the disgusting actions of a small minority.

Are they a small minority? For every terrorist there is a logistical supply of money weapons and know how. Added to that the thousands who turn a blind eye due to religious loyalty that one Muslim will not act against another Muslim.

The most ignorant are the wider Muslim community who have shown passive support for terrorists as they offer little intelligence into what is going on within their own enclaves in Cities all over Europe.

Try living within a Muslim majority area of any Town/City and you would soon get an insight to just how bad things are and how frightening the future could be if we don't wake up and start doing something about it.

Tony. Yes those who support terrorists from within their own ethnic communities are indeed a very small minority. There is still considerable work to be done in capturing the hearts and minds of more in those communities to more openly condemn the atrocious actions of those tiny minorities.
Hopefully, this will lead to greater pressure on the terrorists to convert to peaceful means to make their political point. This happened, eventually, in Northern Ireland where both the Catholic and Protestant communities came to realise that violence would not achieve anything but major grief for everyone.
As for weapon supplies, most of those used came from the likes of France, Russia and the UK.
I have lived in a number of communities in London and the East Midlands with what were probably Muslim majorities ( I say probably because I didn't feel the need to ask for the exact figures) and can honestly say that things were nowhere near as bad as you suggest. Have you lived in such communities or just basing your assumptions on hearsay ( not meant as a dig , just asking)?

there been polls all around the country in Muslim areas with most saying 3 in 5 Muslim supports isis doesn't sound like a small minority ,you need to wake up and open your eyes up

Wez, my eyes are perfectly open in this respect.I am fully awake in terms of actually forming an opinion on such matters based on fact and personal experience rather than rumour and hearsay.

Please let the readers of this board form an intelligent opinion on your claims to the contents of these polls by posting a link to them. I suspect that they don't actually exist and that you have just been told by someone that they do .

The point I was trying to make about the poster is that it was clearly amateurish in its format and content and pitched at the lowest common denominator of an audience who wouldn't think to question the accuracy of its claims.

The overall issue that terrorism is a problem needing urgent attention is not in doubt. The solution is not simple and is certainly not to blame an entire race or religion as a whole for the disgusting actions of a small minority.

Are they a small minority? For every terrorist there is a logistical supply of money weapons and know how. Added to that the thousands who turn a blind eye due to religious loyalty that one Muslim will not act against another Muslim.

The most ignorant are the wider Muslim community who have shown passive support for terrorists as they offer little intelligence into what is going on within their own enclaves in Cities all over Europe.

Try living within a Muslim majority area of any Town/City and you would soon get an insight to just how bad things are and how frightening the future could be if we don't wake up and start doing something about it.

Tony. Yes those who support terrorists from within their own ethnic communities are indeed a very small minority. There is still considerable work to be done in capturing the hearts and minds of more in those communities to more openly condemn the atrocious actions of those tiny minorities.
Hopefully, this will lead to greater pressure on the terrorists to convert to peaceful means to make their political point. This happened, eventually, in Northern Ireland where both the Catholic and Protestant communities came to realise that violence would not achieve anything but major grief for everyone.
As for weapon supplies, most of those used came from the likes of France, Russia and the UK.
I have lived in a number of communities in London and the East Midlands with what were probably Muslim majorities ( I say probably because I didn't feel the need to ask for the exact figures) and can honestly say that things were nowhere near as bad as you suggest. Have you lived in such communities or just basing your assumptions on hearsay ( not meant as a dig , just asking)?

there been polls all around the country in Muslim areas with most saying 3 in 5 Muslim supports isis doesn't sound like a small minority ,you need to wake up and open your eyes up

Wez, my eyes are perfectly open in this respect.I am fully awake in terms of actually forming an opinion on such matters based on fact and personal experience rather than rumour and hearsay.

Please let the readers of this board form an intelligent opinion on your claims to the contents of these polls by posting a link to them. I suspect that they don't actually exist and that you have just been told by someone that they do .

How is anything you said on this topic FACT ? how is it a very small minority?how do you know ?

Hi Tony,

For 70 years the US, UK, France and Russia have bombed the shit out of Muslim countries.
The evidence is there for all to see.
And the best you can come out with is "we'll blame it on the Vikings"

The muslims living in those countries want it to stop. They haven't got Planes and cruise missiles to kill us.

What are they going to do?

How would you solve the problem Tony?

Please don't say bomb the shit out of them,
we have already been doing that for the last 70 years and look where that's got us.
We need a solution.

Hi Tony,

For 70 years the US, UK, France and Russia have bombed the shit out of Muslim countries.
The evidence is there for all to see.
And the best you can come out with is "we'll blame it on the Vikings"

The muslims living in those countries want it to stop. They haven't got Planes and cruise missiles to kill us.

What are they going to do?

How would you solve the problem Tony?

Please don't say bomb the shit out of them,
we have already been doing that for the last 70 years and look where that's got us.
We need a solution.

so the Muslim countries haven't bomb the shit out of each other in the last 70 years? wasn't Syria a civil war until the west got involved? didnt Iran and Iraq have a war? Egypt and isreal,Saudi and Yemen come on the list is endless the fact is that muslims are not happy unless they hate something, history proves that, it's a cop out to say it's the west fault !

The point I was trying to make about the poster is that it was clearly amateurish in its format and content and pitched at the lowest common denominator of an audience who wouldn't think to question the accuracy of its claims.

The overall issue that terrorism is a problem needing urgent attention is not in doubt. The solution is not simple and is certainly not to blame an entire race or religion as a whole for the disgusting actions of a small minority.

Are they a small minority? For every terrorist there is a logistical supply of money weapons and know how. Added to that the thousands who turn a blind eye due to religious loyalty that one Muslim will not act against another Muslim.

The most ignorant are the wider Muslim community who have shown passive support for terrorists as they offer little intelligence into what is going on within their own enclaves in Cities all over Europe.

Try living within a Muslim majority area of any Town/City and you would soon get an insight to just how bad things are and how frightening the future could be if we don't wake up and start doing something about it.

Tony. Yes those who support terrorists from within their own ethnic communities are indeed a very small minority. There is still considerable work to be done in capturing the hearts and minds of more in those communities to more openly condemn the atrocious actions of those tiny minorities.
Hopefully, this will lead to greater pressure on the terrorists to convert to peaceful means to make their political point. This happened, eventually, in Northern Ireland where both the Catholic and Protestant communities came to realise that violence would not achieve anything but major grief for everyone.
As for weapon supplies, most of those used came from the likes of France, Russia and the UK.
I have lived in a number of communities in London and the East Midlands with what were probably Muslim majorities ( I say probably because I didn't feel the need to ask for the exact figures) and can honestly say that things were nowhere near as bad as you suggest. Have you lived in such communities or just basing your assumptions on hearsay ( not meant as a dig , just asking)?

there been polls all around the country in Muslim areas with most saying 3 in 5 Muslim supports isis doesn't sound like a small minority ,you need to wake up and open your eyes up

Wez, my eyes are perfectly open in this respect.I am fully awake in terms of actually forming an opinion on such matters based on fact and personal experience rather than rumour and hearsay.

Please let the readers of this board form an intelligent opinion on your claims to the contents of these polls by posting a link to them. I suspect that they don't actually exist and that you have just been told by someone that they do .

How is anything you said on this topic FACT ? how is it a very small minority?how do you know ?

It is fact based on the arithmetic certainty that the number of Muslims committing acts of terrorism is a tiny percentage of the total worldwide Muslim community. In the same way, the number of IRA and UDF terrorists during the Irish troubles was a tiny minority of the Roman Catholic and Protestant worldwide communities.

I have also had several conversations with leaders and members of the Muslim community in various parts of the UK and elsewhere in the world and it is clear from such discussions that the Muslim community as a whole is entirely against those of their faith that tarnish its reputation with their atrocious actions.

That is how I know such things.

On the other hand, you seem to have had no such conversations, base the views you express on hearsay and polls you claim to exist that you cannot or will not reproduce or provide a link to. Have you ever attempted to have a grown up conversation on the issue with people in the Muslim community or do you consider them to be too " dirty" based on your earlier claims in posts based on your " worldwide travel" experience which didn't appear to include much by way of experience of Muslim countries.

Out of interest, do you hold similar racist views on other people who are not white and British ?

The point I was trying to make about the poster is that it was clearly amateurish in its format and content and pitched at the lowest common denominator of an audience who wouldn't think to question the accuracy of its claims.

The overall issue that terrorism is a problem needing urgent attention is not in doubt. The solution is not simple and is certainly not to blame an entire race or religion as a whole for the disgusting actions of a small minority.

Are they a small minority? For every terrorist there is a logistical supply of money weapons and know how. Added to that the thousands who turn a blind eye due to religious loyalty that one Muslim will not act against another Muslim.

The most ignorant are the wider Muslim community who have shown passive support for terrorists as they offer little intelligence into what is going on within their own enclaves in Cities all over Europe.

Try living within a Muslim majority area of any Town/City and you would soon get an insight to just how bad things are and how frightening the future could be if we don't wake up and start doing something about it.

Tony. Yes those who support terrorists from within their own ethnic communities are indeed a very small minority. There is still considerable work to be done in capturing the hearts and minds of more in those communities to more openly condemn the atrocious actions of those tiny minorities.
Hopefully, this will lead to greater pressure on the terrorists to convert to peaceful means to make their political point. This happened, eventually, in Northern Ireland where both the Catholic and Protestant communities came to realise that violence would not achieve anything but major grief for everyone.
As for weapon supplies, most of those used came from the likes of France, Russia and the UK.
I have lived in a number of communities in London and the East Midlands with what were probably Muslim majorities ( I say probably because I didn't feel the need to ask for the exact figures) and can honestly say that things were nowhere near as bad as you suggest. Have you lived in such communities or just basing your assumptions on hearsay ( not meant as a dig , just asking)?

there been polls all around the country in Muslim areas with most saying 3 in 5 Muslim supports isis doesn't sound like a small minority ,you need to wake up and open your eyes up

Wez, my eyes are perfectly open in this respect.I am fully awake in terms of actually forming an opinion on such matters based on fact and personal experience rather than rumour and hearsay.

Please let the readers of this board form an intelligent opinion on your claims to the contents of these polls by posting a link to them. I suspect that they don't actually exist and that you have just been told by someone that they do .

How is anything you said on this topic FACT ? how is it a very small minority?how do you know ?

It is fact based on the arithmetic certainty that the number of Muslims committing acts of terrorism is a tiny percentage of the total worldwide Muslim community. In the same way, the number of IRA and UDF terrorists during the Irish troubles was a tiny minority of the Roman Catholic and Protestant worldwide communities.

I have also had several conversations with leaders and members of the Muslim community in various parts of the UK and elsewhere in the world and it is clear from such discussions that the Muslim community as a whole is entirely against those of their faith that tarnish its reputation with their atrocious actions.

That is how I know such things.

On the other hand, you seem to have had no such conversations, base the views you express on hearsay and polls you claim to exist that you cannot or will not reproduce or provide a link to. Have you ever attempted to have a grown up conversation on the issue with people in the Muslim community or do you consider them to be too " dirty" based on your earlier claims in posts based on your " worldwide travel" experience which didn't appear to include much by way of experience of Muslim countries.

Out of interest, do you hold similar racist views on other people who are not white and British ?

come on back your posts up with facts how do you know that the Muslims that support isis or any other terrorist organisation is a small minority? and for the record muslims can be black white or any other colour skin it's a religion!,I've many different friends of all different faiths and religions from different parts of the world,i drink with down the football even know some moderate muslims from Pakistan living in Cardiff ,these people say there is a huge problem with 2nd generation muslims and 1st generation migrant Muslins in cardiff and other major cities in the UK it lefties like yourself that have got the heads in your backside and can't see it ,wake up ffs

The point I was trying to make about the poster is that it was clearly amateurish in its format and content and pitched at the lowest common denominator of an audience who wouldn't think to question the accuracy of its claims.

The overall issue that terrorism is a problem needing urgent attention is not in doubt. The solution is not simple and is certainly not to blame an entire race or religion as a whole for the disgusting actions of a small minority.

Are they a small minority? For every terrorist there is a logistical supply of money weapons and know how. Added to that the thousands who turn a blind eye due to religious loyalty that one Muslim will not act against another Muslim.

The most ignorant are the wider Muslim community who have shown passive support for terrorists as they offer little intelligence into what is going on within their own enclaves in Cities all over Europe.

Try living within a Muslim majority area of any Town/City and you would soon get an insight to just how bad things are and how frightening the future could be if we don't wake up and start doing something about it.

Tony. Yes those who support terrorists from within their own ethnic communities are indeed a very small minority. There is still considerable work to be done in capturing the hearts and minds of more in those communities to more openly condemn the atrocious actions of those tiny minorities.
Hopefully, this will lead to greater pressure on the terrorists to convert to peaceful means to make their political point. This happened, eventually, in Northern Ireland where both the Catholic and Protestant communities came to realise that violence would not achieve anything but major grief for everyone.
As for weapon supplies, most of those used came from the likes of France, Russia and the UK.
I have lived in a number of communities in London and the East Midlands with what were probably Muslim majorities ( I say probably because I didn't feel the need to ask for the exact figures) and can honestly say that things were nowhere near as bad as you suggest. Have you lived in such communities or just basing your assumptions on hearsay ( not meant as a dig , just asking)?

there been polls all around the country in Muslim areas with most saying 3 in 5 Muslim supports isis doesn't sound like a small minority ,you need to wake up and open your eyes up

Wez, my eyes are perfectly open in this respect.I am fully awake in terms of actually forming an opinion on such matters based on fact and personal experience rather than rumour and hearsay.

Please let the readers of this board form an intelligent opinion on your claims to the contents of these polls by posting a link to them. I suspect that they don't actually exist and that you have just been told by someone that they do .

How is anything you said on this topic FACT ? how is it a very small minority?how do you know ?

It is fact based on the arithmetic certainty that the number of Muslims committing acts of terrorism is a tiny percentage of the total worldwide Muslim community. In the same way, the number of IRA and UDF terrorists during the Irish troubles was a tiny minority of the Roman Catholic and Protestant worldwide communities.

I have also had several conversations with leaders and members of the Muslim community in various parts of the UK and elsewhere in the world and it is clear from such discussions that the Muslim community as a whole is entirely against those of their faith that tarnish its reputation with their atrocious actions.

That is how I know such things.

On the other hand, you seem to have had no such conversations, base the views you express on hearsay and polls you claim to exist that you cannot or will not reproduce or provide a link to. Have you ever attempted to have a grown up conversation on the issue with people in the Muslim community or do you consider them to be too " dirty" based on your earlier claims in posts based on your " worldwide travel" experience which didn't appear to include much by way of experience of Muslim countries.

Out of interest, do you hold similar racist views on other people who are not white and British ?

come on back your posts up with facts how do you know that the Muslims that support isis or any other terrorist organisation is a small minority? and for the record muslims can be black white or any other colour skin it's a religion!,I've many different friends of all different faiths and religions from different parts of the world,i drink with down the football even know some moderate muslims from Pakistan living in Cardiff ,these people say there is a huge problem with 2nd generation muslims and 1st generation migrant Muslins in cardiff and other major cities in the UK it lefties like yourself that have got the heads in your backside and can't see it ,wake up ffs

Couple of initial responses

1) I am not a " leftie" in terms of my political beliefs. Just being to the left of your own views doesn't make someone a " leftie" . Some of the views you have expressed on this board would make Adolf Hitler look like a moderate.

2) You blatantly refuse to back up your arguments with evidence. Where are these " polls" you refer to?

A third point. How many first generation migrant Muslims do you believe there are in Cardiff?

The point I was trying to make about the poster is that it was clearly amateurish in its format and content and pitched at the lowest common denominator of an audience who wouldn't think to question the accuracy of its claims.

The overall issue that terrorism is a problem needing urgent attention is not in doubt. The solution is not simple and is certainly not to blame an entire race or religion as a whole for the disgusting actions of a small minority.

Are they a small minority? For every terrorist there is a logistical supply of money weapons and know how. Added to that the thousands who turn a blind eye due to religious loyalty that one Muslim will not act against another Muslim.

The most ignorant are the wider Muslim community who have shown passive support for terrorists as they offer little intelligence into what is going on within their own enclaves in Cities all over Europe.

Try living within a Muslim majority area of any Town/City and you would soon get an insight to just how bad things are and how frightening the future could be if we don't wake up and start doing something about it.

Tony. Yes those who support terrorists from within their own ethnic communities are indeed a very small minority. There is still considerable work to be done in capturing the hearts and minds of more in those communities to more openly condemn the atrocious actions of those tiny minorities.
Hopefully, this will lead to greater pressure on the terrorists to convert to peaceful means to make their political point. This happened, eventually, in Northern Ireland where both the Catholic and Protestant communities came to realise that violence would not achieve anything but major grief for everyone.
As for weapon supplies, most of those used came from the likes of France, Russia and the UK.
I have lived in a number of communities in London and the East Midlands with what were probably Muslim majorities ( I say probably because I didn't feel the need to ask for the exact figures) and can honestly say that things were nowhere near as bad as you suggest. Have you lived in such communities or just basing your assumptions on hearsay ( not meant as a dig , just asking)?

there been polls all around the country in Muslim areas with most saying 3 in 5 Muslim supports isis doesn't sound like a small minority ,you need to wake up and open your eyes up

Wez, my eyes are perfectly open in this respect.I am fully awake in terms of actually forming an opinion on such matters based on fact and personal experience rather than rumour and hearsay.

Please let the readers of this board form an intelligent opinion on your claims to the contents of these polls by posting a link to them. I suspect that they don't actually exist and that you have just been told by someone that they do .

How is anything you said on this topic FACT ? how is it a very small minority?how do you know ?

It is fact based on the arithmetic certainty that the number of Muslims committing acts of terrorism is a tiny percentage of the total worldwide Muslim community. In the same way, the number of IRA and UDF terrorists during the Irish troubles was a tiny minority of the Roman Catholic and Protestant worldwide communities.

I have also had several conversations with leaders and members of the Muslim community in various parts of the UK and elsewhere in the world and it is clear from such discussions that the Muslim community as a whole is entirely against those of their faith that tarnish its reputation with their atrocious actions.

That is how I know such things.

On the other hand, you seem to have had no such conversations, base the views you express on hearsay and polls you claim to exist that you cannot or will not reproduce or provide a link to. Have you ever attempted to have a grown up conversation on the issue with people in the Muslim community or do you consider them to be too " dirty" based on your earlier claims in posts based on your " worldwide travel" experience which didn't appear to include much by way of experience of Muslim countries.

Out of interest, do you hold similar racist views on other people who are not white and British ?

come on back your posts up with facts how do you know that the Muslims that support isis or any other terrorist organisation is a small minority? and for the record muslims can be black white or any other colour skin it's a religion!,I've many different friends of all different faiths and religions from different parts of the world,i drink with down the football even know some moderate muslims from Pakistan living in Cardiff ,these people say there is a huge problem with 2nd generation muslims and 1st generation migrant Muslins in cardiff and other major cities in the UK it lefties like yourself that have got the heads in your backside and can't see it ,wake up ffs

Couple of initial responses

1) I am not a " leftie" in terms of my political beliefs. Just being to the left of your own views doesn't make someone a " leftie" . Some of the views you have expressed on this board would make Adolf Hitler look like a moderate.

2) You blatantly refuse to back up your arguments with evidence. Where are these " polls" you refer to?

A third point. How many first generation migrant Muslims do you believe there are in Cardiff?

Hitler was a socialist I don't believe in that
I wouldn't know the true figure but I would guess at least 30,000 it maybe more but that's conservative guess

The point I was trying to make about the poster is that it was clearly amateurish in its format and content and pitched at the lowest common denominator of an audience who wouldn't think to question the accuracy of its claims.

The overall issue that terrorism is a problem needing urgent attention is not in doubt. The solution is not simple and is certainly not to blame an entire race or religion as a whole for the disgusting actions of a small minority.

Are they a small minority? For every terrorist there is a logistical supply of money weapons and know how. Added to that the thousands who turn a blind eye due to religious loyalty that one Muslim will not act against another Muslim.

The most ignorant are the wider Muslim community who have shown passive support for terrorists as they offer little intelligence into what is going on within their own enclaves in Cities all over Europe.

Try living within a Muslim majority area of any Town/City and you would soon get an insight to just how bad things are and how frightening the future could be if we don't wake up and start doing something about it.

Tony. Yes those who support terrorists from within their own ethnic communities are indeed a very small minority. There is still considerable work to be done in capturing the hearts and minds of more in those communities to more openly condemn the atrocious actions of those tiny minorities.
Hopefully, this will lead to greater pressure on the terrorists to convert to peaceful means to make their political point. This happened, eventually, in Northern Ireland where both the Catholic and Protestant communities came to realise that violence would not achieve anything but major grief for everyone.
As for weapon supplies, most of those used came from the likes of France, Russia and the UK.
I have lived in a number of communities in London and the East Midlands with what were probably Muslim majorities ( I say probably because I didn't feel the need to ask for the exact figures) and can honestly say that things were nowhere near as bad as you suggest. Have you lived in such communities or just basing your assumptions on hearsay ( not meant as a dig , just asking)?

there been polls all around the country in Muslim areas with most saying 3 in 5 Muslim supports isis doesn't sound like a small minority ,you need to wake up and open your eyes up

Wez, my eyes are perfectly open in this respect.I am fully awake in terms of actually forming an opinion on such matters based on fact and personal experience rather than rumour and hearsay.

Please let the readers of this board form an intelligent opinion on your claims to the contents of these polls by posting a link to them. I suspect that they don't actually exist and that you have just been told by someone that they do .

How is anything you said on this topic FACT ? how is it a very small minority?how do you know ?

It is fact based on the arithmetic certainty that the number of Muslims committing acts of terrorism is a tiny percentage of the total worldwide Muslim community. In the same way, the number of IRA and UDF terrorists during the Irish troubles was a tiny minority of the Roman Catholic and Protestant worldwide communities.

I have also had several conversations with leaders and members of the Muslim community in various parts of the UK and elsewhere in the world and it is clear from such discussions that the Muslim community as a whole is entirely against those of their faith that tarnish its reputation with their atrocious actions.

That is how I know such things.

On the other hand, you seem to have had no such conversations, base the views you express on hearsay and polls you claim to exist that you cannot or will not reproduce or provide a link to. Have you ever attempted to have a grown up conversation on the issue with people in the Muslim community or do you consider them to be too " dirty" based on your earlier claims in posts based on your " worldwide travel" experience which didn't appear to include much by way of experience of Muslim countries.

Out of interest, do you hold similar racist views on other people who are not white and British ?

come on back your posts up with facts how do you know that the Muslims that support isis or any other terrorist organisation is a small minority? and for the record muslims can be black white or any other colour skin it's a religion!,I've many different friends of all different faiths and religions from different parts of the world,i drink with down the football even know some moderate muslims from Pakistan living in Cardiff ,these people say there is a huge problem with 2nd generation muslims and 1st generation migrant Muslins in cardiff and other major cities in the UK it lefties like yourself that have got the heads in your backside and can't see it ,wake up ffs

Couple of initial responses

1) I am not a " leftie" in terms of my political beliefs. Just being to the left of your own views doesn't make someone a " leftie" . Some of the views you have expressed on this board would make Adolf Hitler look like a moderate.

2) You blatantly refuse to back up your arguments with evidence. Where are these " polls" you refer to?

A third point. How many first generation migrant Muslims do you believe there are in Cardiff?

Hitler was a socialist I don't believe in that
I wouldn't know the true figure but I would guess at least 30,000 it maybe more but that's conservative guess

The ethnic minority population (or non-white population) increased by 31,800 or 150% in Cardiff between 1991 and 2011 (see Figure 1a). Despite this growth, the White British ethnic group, only measured since 2001 (see box), remains the largest group in Cardiff (80%).

Wez you're embarrasing yourself

Wez you're embarrasing yourself

if you say so keep your head in your ass no problems in britain until its too late

Wez

In this thread you post an interesting set of statistics about an increase in ethnic minorities in Cardiff over a 20 year period to 2011. Where did you get those stats. from. I am not doubting them , just interested as to the source.

The figures in your post refer to ethnic minorities , so is it safe to assume that the figures include all ethnic minorities such as Indians , Chinese , Africans etc. etc rather than just Muslims from various countries?

Also , have you yet found those polls you previously said showed that 60 % of Muslims across the UK support terrorism?

Wez

In this thread you post an interesting set of statistics about an increase in ethnic minorities in Cardiff over a 20 year period to 2011. Where did you get those stats. from. I am not doubting them , just interested as to the source.

The figures in your post refer to ethnic minorities , so is it safe to assume that the figures include all ethnic minorities such as Indians , Chinese , Africans etc. etc rather than just Muslims from various countries?

Also , have you yet found those polls you previously said showed that 60 % of Muslims across the UK support terrorism?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... imqNV6qXBQ

Wez

In this thread you post an interesting set of statistics about an increase in ethnic minorities in Cardiff over a 20 year period to 2011. Where did you get those stats. from. I am not doubting them , just interested as to the source.

The figures in your post refer to ethnic minorities , so is it safe to assume that the figures include all ethnic minorities such as Indians , Chinese , Africans etc. etc rather than just Muslims from various countries?

Also , have you yet found those polls you previously said showed that 60 % of Muslims across the UK support terrorism?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... imqNV6qXBQ

Thanks for that - a very interesting report.

Have just had a quick read of it , and it states that just 2% of the Cardiff population was Pakistani which would have been the biggest Muslim base. Also , that growth in ethnic minority groups was amongst the lowest percentages in that ten year period compared to say Indian , Chinese and African.

Did you find those "supporting terrorism" polls?

Wez

In this thread you post an interesting set of statistics about an increase in ethnic minorities in Cardiff over a 20 year period to 2011. Where did you get those stats. from. I am not doubting them , just interested as to the source.

The figures in your post refer to ethnic minorities , so is it safe to assume that the figures include all ethnic minorities such as Indians , Chinese , Africans etc. etc rather than just Muslims from various countries?

Also , have you yet found those polls you previously said showed that 60 % of Muslims across the UK support terrorism?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... imqNV6qXBQ

Thanks for that - a very interesting report.

Have just had a quick read of it , and it states that just 2% of the Cardiff population was Pakistani which would have been the biggest Muslim base. Also , that growth in ethnic minority groups was amongst the lowest percentages in that ten year period compared to say Indian , Chinese and African.

Did you find those "supporting terrorism" polls?

if you check the map of Cardiff the areas of city Road,riverside and Grantown have seen the largest rise 150to 200% up to 2011 I bet in the last 5 years it's alot more
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... imqNV6qXBQ

Wez

In this thread you post an interesting set of statistics about an increase in ethnic minorities in Cardiff over a 20 year period to 2011. Where did you get those stats. from. I am not doubting them , just interested as to the source.

The figures in your post refer to ethnic minorities , so is it safe to assume that the figures include all ethnic minorities such as Indians , Chinese , Africans etc. etc rather than just Muslims from various countries?

Also , have you yet found those polls you previously said showed that 60 % of Muslims across the UK support terrorism?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... imqNV6qXBQ

Thanks for that - a very interesting report.

Have just had a quick read of it , and it states that just 2% of the Cardiff population was Pakistani which would have been the biggest Muslim base. Also , that growth in ethnic minority groups was amongst the lowest percentages in that ten year period compared to say Indian , Chinese and African.

Did you find those "supporting terrorism" polls?

if you check the map of Cardiff the areas of city Road,riverside and Grantown have seen the largest rise 150to 200% up to 2011 I bet in the last 5 years it's alot more
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... imqNV6qXBQ

Nowhere does the report say that there has been a 150% to 200% rise in any area.

Figure 3 says that the biggest growth has been around 60% in "more clustered" areas (which the report says includes Cyncoed) for Pakistani residents and around 40% in "less clustered" areas across the city. This growth still only takes the Pakistani population of the city up to 2%.Only in Grangetown(8%) , Riverside(5%) and Cyncoed(also 5%) is the Pakistani population said to be over 4%.

The growth in Indian , African and "other white" populations have all been higher over the 10 year period reviewed.

Could it be that you and others are confused as to who is a Pakistani (and likely Muslim) and Indian (likely Hindu) and lumping both together to classify as the Muslims you seem so scared of?

Wez

In this thread you post an interesting set of statistics about an increase in ethnic minorities in Cardiff over a 20 year period to 2011. Where did you get those stats. from. I am not doubting them , just interested as to the source.

The figures in your post refer to ethnic minorities , so is it safe to assume that the figures include all ethnic minorities such as Indians , Chinese , Africans etc. etc rather than just Muslims from various countries?

Also , have you yet found those polls you previously said showed that 60 % of Muslims across the UK support terrorism?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... imqNV6qXBQ

Thanks for that - a very interesting report.

Have just had a quick read of it , and it states that just 2% of the Cardiff population was Pakistani which would have been the biggest Muslim base. Also , that growth in ethnic minority groups was amongst the lowest percentages in that ten year period compared to say Indian , Chinese and African.

Did you find those "supporting terrorism" polls?

if you check the map of Cardiff the areas of city Road,riverside and Grantown have seen the largest rise 150to 200% up to 2011 I bet in the last 5 years it's alot more
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... imqNV6qXBQ

Nowhere does the report say that there has been a 150% to 200% rise in any area.

Figure 3 says that the biggest growth has been around 60% in "more clustered" areas (which the report says includes Cyncoed) for Pakistani residents and around 40% in "less clustered" areas across the city. This growth still only takes the Pakistani population of the city up to 2%.Only in Grangetown(8%) , Riverside(5%) and Cyncoed(also 5%) is the Pakistani population said to be over 4%.

The growth in Indian , African and "other white" populations have all been higher over the 10 year period reviewed.

Could it be that you and others are confused as to who is a Pakistani (and likely Muslim) and Indian (likely Hindu) and lumping both together to classify as the Muslims you seem so scared of?

my mistake read it wrong 150 to 200 % as a population of Cardiff over all the minorities Pakistani 80% increase

Wez

In this thread you post an interesting set of statistics about an increase in ethnic minorities in Cardiff over a 20 year period to 2011. Where did you get those stats. from. I am not doubting them , just interested as to the source.

The figures in your post refer to ethnic minorities , so is it safe to assume that the figures include all ethnic minorities such as Indians , Chinese , Africans etc. etc rather than just Muslims from various countries?

Also , have you yet found those polls you previously said showed that 60 % of Muslims across the UK support terrorism?

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... imqNV6qXBQ

Thanks for that - a very interesting report.

Have just had a quick read of it , and it states that just 2% of the Cardiff population was Pakistani which would have been the biggest Muslim base. Also , that growth in ethnic minority groups was amongst the lowest percentages in that ten year period compared to say Indian , Chinese and African.

Did you find those "supporting terrorism" polls?

if you check the map of Cardiff the areas of city Road,riverside and Grantown have seen the largest rise 150to 200% up to 2011 I bet in the last 5 years it's alot more
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&sourc ... imqNV6qXBQ

Nowhere does the report say that there has been a 150% to 200% rise in any area.

Figure 3 says that the biggest growth has been around 60% in "more clustered" areas (which the report says includes Cyncoed) for Pakistani residents and around 40% in "less clustered" areas across the city. This growth still only takes the Pakistani population of the city up to 2%.Only in Grangetown(8%) , Riverside(5%) and Cyncoed(also 5%) is the Pakistani population said to be over 4%.

The growth in Indian , African and "other white" populations have all been higher over the 10 year period reviewed.

Could it be that you and others are confused as to who is a Pakistani (and likely Muslim) and Indian (likely Hindu) and lumping both together to classify as the Muslims you seem so scared of?

my mistake read it wrong 150 to 200 % as a population of Cardiff over all the minorities Pakistani 80% increase

It states that the overall ethnic minority increase is 150% over ten years (no mention of 200%).

It also shows a 40% increase in the Pakistani population over that ten year period , not 80% (table in Figure 1b). Not sure where you got that higher figure from. As I said earlier , that %age increase is far less than either the increase in Indian (88%)or African (162%)minorities.

Hi Tony,

For 70 years the US, UK, France and Russia have bombed the shit out of Muslim countries.
The evidence is there for all to see.
And the best you can come out with is "we'll blame it on the Vikings"

The muslims living in those countries want it to stop. They haven't got Planes and cruise missiles to kill us.

What are they going to do?

How would you solve the problem Tony?

Please don't say bomb the shit out of them,
we have already been doing that for the last 70 years and look where that's got us.
We need a solution.

Muslim countries have been killing each other for years including civil wars and the Iraq/Iran war of the 1980's where there was no western troops or air strikes although some countries ASK for help (Bosnia) to stop persecution. Let's not forget that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were started due something which happened on the 11th September 2001. .

Whenever a Muslim uses the excuse of foreign troops in Muslim lands it's amazing how 9/11 is airbrushed out

You ask what I suggest should be done? Firstly the Muslim 'victim' card should be totally disregarded. Secondly a zero tolerance policy should exist for all those who are shown to be involved in any kind of Islamic extremism, by that I mean a prison sentence, stripped of British Nationality and deported. Finally a full stop on any further immigration into the UK.

The lefty softies who say we should integrate communities never explain how that is ever going to happen when the UK constantly take in thousands of new arrivals every year and bring with them their customs and laws which are completely against the values of this country, such as Female genital mutilation and honour killings.

We always get told how 'peaceful' Islam is yet these disgusting practices are part and parcel of that religion. I'm totally baffled to how anyone can have anything to do with it.

Hi Tony,

For 70 years the US, UK, France and Russia have bombed the shit out of Muslim countries.
The evidence is there for all to see.
And the best you can come out with is "we'll blame it on the Vikings"

The muslims living in those countries want it to stop. They haven't got Planes and cruise missiles to kill us.

What are they going to do?

How would you solve the problem Tony?

Please don't say bomb the shit out of them,
we have already been doing that for the last 70 years and look where that's got us.
We need a solution.

Muslim countries have been killing each other for years including civil wars and the Iraq/Iran war of the 1980's where there was no western troops or air strikes although some countries ASK for help (Bosnia) to stop persecution. Let's not forget that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were started due something which happened on the 11th September 2001. .

Whenever a Muslim uses the excuse of foreign troops in Muslim lands it's amazing how 9/11 is airbrushed out

You ask what I suggest should be done? Firstly the Muslim 'victim' card should be totally disregarded. Secondly a zero tolerance policy should exist for all those who are shown to be involved in any kind of Islamic extremism, by that I mean a prison sentence, stripped of British Nationality and deported. Finally a full stop on any further immigration into the UK.

The lefty softies who say we should integrate communities never explain how that is ever going to happen when the UK constantly take in thousands of new arrivals every year and bring with them their customs and laws which are completely against the values of this country, such as Female genital mutilation and honour killings.

We always get told how 'peaceful' Islam is yet these disgusting practices are part and parcel of that religion. I'm totally baffled to how anyone can have anything to do with it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZiJehMXBpQ

The point I was trying to make about the poster is that it was clearly amateurish in its format and content and pitched at the lowest common denominator of an audience who wouldn't think to question the accuracy of its claims.

The overall issue that terrorism is a problem needing urgent attention is not in doubt. The solution is not simple and is certainly not to blame an entire race or religion as a whole for the disgusting actions of a small minority.

Are they a small minority? For every terrorist there is a logistical supply of money weapons and know how. Added to that the thousands who turn a blind eye due to religious loyalty that one Muslim will not act against another Muslim.

The most ignorant are the wider Muslim community who have shown passive support for terrorists as they offer little intelligence into what is going on within their own enclaves in Cities all over Europe.

Try living within a Muslim majority area of any Town/City and you would soon get an insight to just how bad things are and how frightening the future could be if we don't wake up and start doing something about it.

Tony. Yes those who support terrorists from within their own ethnic communities are indeed a very small minority. There is still considerable work to be done in capturing the hearts and minds of more in those communities to more openly condemn the atrocious actions of those tiny minorities.

Hopefully, this will lead to greater pressure on the terrorists to convert to peaceful means to make their political point. This happened, eventually, in Northern Ireland where both the Catholic and Protestant communities came to realise that violence would not achieve anything but major grief for everyone.

As for weapon supplies, most of those used came from the likes of France, Russia and the UK.

I have lived in a number of communities in London and the East Midlands with what were probably Muslim majorities ( I say probably because I didn't feel the need to ask for the exact figures) and can honestly say that things were nowhere near as bad as you suggest. Have you lived in such communities or just basing your assumptions on hearsay ( not meant as a dig , just asking)?

Yes Keith I have lived in an area predominately Muslim from 1997-2000. I'm absolutely sure that where I lived was nothing like where you may have lived in the past. I lived in a council house in a close with 10 other properties which were occupied by both Shi`ite and Sunni Muslims.

I can honestly say I have never come across such racism in my life and by that I mean I & my family. The abuse was a constant referal to my colour and the fact I was a Kafir or Infidel (a non-believer of Islam)

Their belief was I was a trespasser on Muslim lands even though these houses were in Newport

The local school had to charge double for school trips as the Muslim's believed they shouldn't pay. They would scream racist abuse at you in their own language and after many months I finally found out that some the phrases used included death threats to my filthy children and a reference to me and my then wife as 'white dogs'. I was asked to take down Christmas decorations (refused BTW) and simply couldn't believe how one Muslim family received 'Christmas presents' from social services because their children were on the endangered list

There was a Mosque which held Friday prayers only yards away from where I lived and I remember some very dodgy looking people going in there. I can't remember if this happened on a Friday but it was very usual for Immans from outside of Newport to come and give talks. It doesn't take a lot to work out how young men become radicalised and simply referring to a 'small minority' is simply wrong.

I had a taste of what it would be like living under a majority Muslim presence and I can tell you if is awful.

The point I was trying to make about the poster is that it was clearly amateurish in its format and content and pitched at the lowest common denominator of an audience who wouldn't think to question the accuracy of its claims.

The overall issue that terrorism is a problem needing urgent attention is not in doubt. The solution is not simple and is certainly not to blame an entire race or religion as a whole for the disgusting actions of a small minority.

Are they a small minority? For every terrorist there is a logistical supply of money weapons and know how. Added to that the thousands who turn a blind eye due to religious loyalty that one Muslim will not act against another Muslim.

The most ignorant are the wider Muslim community who have shown passive support for terrorists as they offer little intelligence into what is going on within their own enclaves in Cities all over Europe.

Try living within a Muslim majority area of any Town/City and you would soon get an insight to just how bad things are and how frightening the future could be if we don't wake up and start doing something about it.

Tony. Yes those who support terrorists from within their own ethnic communities are indeed a very small minority. There is still considerable work to be done in capturing the hearts and minds of more in those communities to more openly condemn the atrocious actions of those tiny minorities.

Hopefully, this will lead to greater pressure on the terrorists to convert to peaceful means to make their political point. This happened, eventually, in Northern Ireland where both the Catholic and Protestant communities came to realise that violence would not achieve anything but major grief for everyone.

As for weapon supplies, most of those used came from the likes of France, Russia and the UK.

I have lived in a number of communities in London and the East Midlands with what were probably Muslim majorities ( I say probably because I didn't feel the need to ask for the exact figures) and can honestly say that things were nowhere near as bad as you suggest. Have you lived in such communities or just basing your assumptions on hearsay ( not meant as a dig , just asking)?

Yes Keith I have lived in an area predominately Muslim from 1997-2000. I'm absolutely sure that where I lived was nothing like where you may have lived in the past. I lived in a council house in a close with 10 other properties which were occupied by both Shi`ite and Sunni Muslims.

I can honestly say I have never come across such racism in my life and by that I mean I & my family. The abuse was a constant referal to my colour and the fact I was a Kafir or Infidel (a non-believer of Islam)

Their belief was I was a trespasser on Muslim lands even though these houses were in Newport

The local school had to charge double for school trips as the Muslim's believed they shouldn't pay. They would scream racist abuse at you in their own language and after many months I finally found out that some the phrases used included death threats to my filthy children and a reference to me and my then wife as 'white dogs'. I was asked to take down Christmas decorations (refused BTW) and simply couldn't believe how one Muslim family received 'Christmas presents' from social services because their children were on the endangered list

There was a Mosque which held Friday prayers only yards away from where I lived and I remember some very dodgy looking people going in there. I can't remember if this happened on a Friday but it was very usual for Immans from outside of Newport to come and give talks. It doesn't take a lot to work out how young men become radicalised and simply referring to a 'small minority' is simply wrong.

I had a taste of what it would be like living under a majority Muslim presence and I can tell you if is awful.

Your wasting your time with Keith, he will just call you a racist and deny there is any problem, I think he might of converted to Islam recently

People will wake up too late to this. Its going to sound cliche and no doubt like I am lying, but I am not.

Years ago a mate I made that was from Huddersfield and his brother had a shop in Cardiff, told me how Muslims want to take over the UK.
His brother used to argue with him if I was in his house and at first never told me what he said, eventually he told me that he does not want non believers in his house.
This was all before 9/11 and I never took much notice.

This was in in the late 80s. I just cannot see how 2 differ ent cultures can ever truly mix if you have a true Muslim as they can never accept what you do as a drinker for example.

I don't know where all this is going but I believe we are at war and it is going to get a lot worse before it gets better l, if it ever gets better