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Re: POLL - TIME TO MOVE ON?

Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:11 pm

If you don't remember the past, then you will make the same mistakes over and over again.
If someone cons you then shame on them, but if you get conned by them again, then shame on you.
It is up to Tan to stop the promises (bribes) and provide actions.
Then, and only then can we truely move on.

Re: POLL - TIME TO MOVE ON?

Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:17 pm

abergblue wrote:If you don't remember the past, then you will make the same mistakes over and over again.
If someone cons you then shame on them, but if you get conned by them again, then shame on you.
It is up to Tan to stop the promises (bribes) and provide actions.
Then, and only then can we truely move on.

Give it a rest he's sorted and Langston and wiped off millions

Re: POLL - TIME TO MOVE ON?

Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:34 pm

wez1927 wrote:
abergblue wrote:If you don't remember the past, then you will make the same mistakes over and over again.
If someone cons you then shame on them, but if you get conned by them again, then shame on you.
It is up to Tan to stop the promises (bribes) and provide actions.
Then, and only then can we truely move on.

Give it a rest he's sorted and Langston and wiped off millions

Has he converted the debt now? I know he has said he will, but I have'nt read that it's been done yet. I still can't get my head around why a businessman who lives the other side of the world, and probably had never heard of Wales, never mind Cardiff, would throw millions into a club and a sport which he knew next to nothing about. I hope he does exactly what he said last week, and he sounded genuine enough, but a lot can happen in 5 years.

Re: POLL - TIME TO MOVE ON?

Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:39 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
abergblue wrote:If you don't remember the past, then you will make the same mistakes over and over again.
If someone cons you then shame on them, but if you get conned by them again, then shame on you.
It is up to Tan to stop the promises (bribes) and provide actions.
Then, and only then can we truely move on.

Give it a rest he's sorted and Langston and wiped off millions

Has he converted the debt now? I know he has said he will, but I have'nt read that it's been done yet. I still can't get my head around why a businessman who lives the other side of the world, and probably had never heard of Wales, never mind Cardiff, would throw millions into a club and a sport which he knew next to nothing about. I hope he does exactly what he said last week, and he sounded genuine enough, but a lot can happen in 5 years.

He converted and wiped off 16 million of debt in the last 12 months ,there is nothing to suggest that he won't follow through he has on everything else ,he always said once Langston is sorted which it is now he would convert debt to equity

Re: POLL - TIME TO MOVE ON?

Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:47 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
abergblue wrote:If you don't remember the past, then you will make the same mistakes over and over again.
If someone cons you then shame on them, but if you get conned by them again, then shame on you.
It is up to Tan to stop the promises (bribes) and provide actions.
Then, and only then can we truely move on.

Give it a rest he's sorted and Langston and wiped off millions

Has he converted the debt now? I know he has said he will, but I have'nt read that it's been done yet. I still can't get my head around why a businessman who lives the other side of the world, and probably had never heard of Wales, never mind Cardiff, would throw millions into a club and a sport which he knew next to nothing about. I hope he does exactly what he said last week, and he sounded genuine enough, but a lot can happen in 5 years.

He converted and wiped off 16 million of debt in the last 12 months ,there is nothing to suggest that he won't follow through he has on everything else ,he always said once Langston is sorted which it is now he would convert debt to equity

I know he has done that. What I would like to know is why. He is a businessman who has no links to Cardiff, rarely attends matches, and has plenty to occupy himself with in his own neck of the woods. There has to be something in it for him as he is not doing this because he has fallen in love with the City of Cardiff, but I don't know what given that a football club is the last place most people would want to invest in.

Re: POLL - TIME TO MOVE ON?

Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:56 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
abergblue wrote:If you don't remember the past, then you will make the same mistakes over and over again.
If someone cons you then shame on them, but if you get conned by them again, then shame on you.
It is up to Tan to stop the promises (bribes) and provide actions.
Then, and only then can we truely move on.

Give it a rest he's sorted and Langston and wiped off millions

Has he converted the debt now? I know he has said he will, but I have'nt read that it's been done yet. I still can't get my head around why a businessman who lives the other side of the world, and probably had never heard of Wales, never mind Cardiff, would throw millions into a club and a sport which he knew next to nothing about. I hope he does exactly what he said last week, and he sounded genuine enough, but a lot can happen in 5 years.

He converted and wiped off 16 million of debt in the last 12 months ,there is nothing to suggest that he won't follow through he has on everything else ,he always said once Langston is sorted which it is now he would convert debt to equity

I know he has done that. What I would like to know is why. He is a businessman who has no links to Cardiff, rarely attends matches, and has plenty to occupy himself with in his own neck of the woods. There has to be something in it for him as he is not doing this because he has fallen in love with the City of Cardiff, but I don't know what given that a football club is the last place most people would want to invest in.

People like him look at the long term investment and not to make a quick buck ,he seems to be following the watford owners model

Re: POLL - TIME TO MOVE ON?

Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:03 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
abergblue wrote:If you don't remember the past, then you will make the same mistakes over and over again.
If someone cons you then shame on them, but if you get conned by them again, then shame on you.
It is up to Tan to stop the promises (bribes) and provide actions.
Then, and only then can we truely move on.

Give it a rest he's sorted and Langston and wiped off millions

Has he converted the debt now? I know he has said he will, but I have'nt read that it's been done yet. I still can't get my head around why a businessman who lives the other side of the world, and probably had never heard of Wales, never mind Cardiff, would throw millions into a club and a sport which he knew next to nothing about. I hope he does exactly what he said last week, and he sounded genuine enough, but a lot can happen in 5 years.

He converted and wiped off 16 million of debt in the last 12 months ,there is nothing to suggest that he won't follow through he has on everything else ,he always said once Langston is sorted which it is now he would convert debt to equity

I know he has done that. What I would like to know is why. He is a businessman who has no links to Cardiff, rarely attends matches, and has plenty to occupy himself with in his own neck of the woods. There has to be something in it for him as he is not doing this because he has fallen in love with the City of Cardiff, but I don't know what given that a football club is the last place most people would want to invest in.

People like him look at the long term investment and not to make a quick buck ,he seems to be following the watford owners model

I can see what you are saying Wez, but given that very few clubs (particularly at this level) make a profit, and taking into account the millions he is going to be trying to recoup, surely he will be long deceased before his money is repaid and profits are made. Obviously, profits are a big if as well, as I don't believe that in almost 50 years of following this club, I can remember a time where there was'nt some sort of financial crisis hovering in the background.

Re: POLL - TIME TO MOVE ON?

Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:05 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
abergblue wrote:If you don't remember the past, then you will make the same mistakes over and over again.
If someone cons you then shame on them, but if you get conned by them again, then shame on you.
It is up to Tan to stop the promises (bribes) and provide actions.
Then, and only then can we truely move on.

Give it a rest he's sorted and Langston and wiped off millions

Has he converted the debt now? I know he has said he will, but I have'nt read that it's been done yet. I still can't get my head around why a businessman who lives the other side of the world, and probably had never heard of Wales, never mind Cardiff, would throw millions into a club and a sport which he knew next to nothing about. I hope he does exactly what he said last week, and he sounded genuine enough, but a lot can happen in 5 years.

He converted and wiped off 16 million of debt in the last 12 months ,there is nothing to suggest that he won't follow through he has on everything else ,he always said once Langston is sorted which it is now he would convert debt to equity

I know he has done that. What I would like to know is why. He is a businessman who has no links to Cardiff, rarely attends matches, and has plenty to occupy himself with in his own neck of the woods. There has to be something in it for him as he is not doing this because he has fallen in love with the City of Cardiff, but I don't know what given that a football club is the last place most people would want to invest in.


You should watch the interview.He's trying,he knows he's made mistakes.I've come to the conclusion that some people can't function without being bitter and twisted over something.Fact is I can go back over 40yrs and some even more than me and it seems to me that he's the first owner ever to promise a debt free club.

Re: POLL - TIME TO MOVE ON?

Thu Feb 18, 2016 5:13 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
abergblue wrote:If you don't remember the past, then you will make the same mistakes over and over again.
If someone cons you then shame on them, but if you get conned by them again, then shame on you.
It is up to Tan to stop the promises (bribes) and provide actions.
Then, and only then can we truely move on.

Give it a rest he's sorted and Langston and wiped off millions

Has he converted the debt now? I know he has said he will, but I have'nt read that it's been done yet. I still can't get my head around why a businessman who lives the other side of the world, and probably had never heard of Wales, never mind Cardiff, would throw millions into a club and a sport which he knew next to nothing about. I hope he does exactly what he said last week, and he sounded genuine enough, but a lot can happen in 5 years.

He converted and wiped off 16 million of debt in the last 12 months ,there is nothing to suggest that he won't follow through he has on everything else ,he always said once Langston is sorted which it is now he would convert debt to equity

I know he has done that. What I would like to know is why. He is a businessman who has no links to Cardiff, rarely attends matches, and has plenty to occupy himself with in his own neck of the woods. There has to be something in it for him as he is not doing this because he has fallen in love with the City of Cardiff, but I don't know what given that a football club is the last place most people would want to invest in.


You should watch the interview.He's trying,he knows he's made mistakes.I've come to the conclusion that some people can't function without being bitter and twisted over something.Fact is I can go back over 40yrs and some even more than me and it seems to me that he's the first owner ever to promise a debt free club.

I've seen the interview, and I hope I'm not coming across as bitter, because like everyone else I want to see this club moving forward and debt free. Past chairmen and committee have made various pledges regarding the club's debt, I used to have to deal with them on a daily basis, although that was a completely different situation compared to now. However, that is why I never take this sort of announcement as gospel, as I was let down on an almost daily basis. As I said earlier, he sounds genuine enough, but so did Hammam.

Re: POLL - TIME TO MOVE ON?

Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:43 am

Personally I think he should do more interviews.It dispels some of the BS that people make up about him.

Re: POLL - TIME TO MOVE ON?

Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:21 pm

Sneggyblubird wrote:Personally I think he should do more interviews.It dispels some of the BS that people make up about him.

I think he gets miss quoted alot and has a dry sense of humour