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Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:57 pm

Gaynor Straight wrote:It took slade 15 mins to react to going a goal down. Revell was obviously in the wars and needed to come off even before the goal but Slade did feck all apart from keep his hands in his pockets. Mason should have come on a lot earlier.Woild it have made a difference though? Probably not


I thought the same, our reaction to their goal was pathetic.

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:01 pm

who will buy a club with a shit manager falling crowds and players just taking the easy money

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:06 pm

darts wrote:who will buy a club with a shit manager falling crowds and players just taking the easy money


anyone competent would see it as an opportunity. Harder to take over a successful club in some ways

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:06 pm

Annis, it's only us loyal fans who will go now while he's around.

Those who would decide on the day or go to 10 or so a season won't be interested.

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:26 pm

ThomasC wrote:
darts wrote:who will buy a club with a shit manager falling crowds and players just taking the easy money


anyone competent would see it as an opportunity. Harder to take over a successful club in some ways


Its not really an attractive business proposition for a potential investor to see club supporters deserting in their droves.

It would have been better, economically for Tan to manage his exit using his business head. Change the kit back to blue and employ a passionate manager who will get fans into the stadium and backing the team. And then make a gracious exit.

Tan seems to be doing his level best to run us into the ground, like a petulant child. What business minded investor would want to put money into Cardiff when there is no prospect of making an economic return?

We need to get in a passionate manager, like Bellamy, to encourage a turnaround in crowds and support. Then hopefully, we look like a better investment opportunity. I don't think this is Tan's plan though. He wants to strip the assets and then cut and run. I hope Im wrong.

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:59 pm

SWilliams wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
darts wrote:who will buy a club with a shit manager falling crowds and players just taking the easy money


anyone competent would see it as an opportunity. Harder to take over a successful club in some ways


Its not really an attractive business proposition for a potential investor to see club supporters deserting in their droves.

It would have been better, economically for Tan to manage his exit using his business head. Change the kit back to blue and employ a passionate manager who will get fans into the stadium and backing the team. And then make a gracious exit.

Tan seems to be doing his level best to run us into the ground, like a petulant child. What business minded investor would want to put money into Cardiff when there is no prospect of making an economic return?

We need to get in a passionate manager, like Bellamy, to encourage a turnaround in crowds and support. Then hopefully, we look like a better investment opportunity. I don't think this is Tan's plan though. He wants to strip the assets and then cut and run. I hope Im wrong.




Quote SWilliams): "It's not really an attractive business proposition for a potential investor to see club supporters deserting in their droves."

Actually, it probably is!

Any 'new' owner could make him/herself an instant hero by looking at what Tan has done poorly and then acting quickly to make some changes that would get supporters behind them and boost their own 'standing' immediately! :thumbup:

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:01 am

SWilliams wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
darts wrote:who will buy a club with a shit manager falling crowds and players just taking the easy money


anyone competent would see it as an opportunity. Harder to take over a successful club in some ways


Its not really an attractive business proposition for a potential investor to see club supporters deserting in their droves.

It would have been better, economically for Tan to manage his exit using his business head. Change the kit back to blue and employ a passionate manager who will get fans into the stadium and backing the team. And then make a gracious exit.

Tan seems to be doing his level best to run us into the ground, like a petulant child. What business minded investor would want to put money into Cardiff when there is no prospect of making an economic return?

We need to get in a passionate manager, like Bellamy, to encourage a turnaround in crowds and support. Then hopefully, we look like a better investment opportunity. I don't think this is Tan's plan though. He wants to strip the assets and then cut and run. I hope Im wrong.


I see the old "we're a sleeping giant" myth is starting to come back to the club, which we now know is wrong.

Tan is doing an ok job of getting rid of high earners and cost cutting. But it's too far for me as he's buying cheap like Doyle and Revell but no long term for either, then there's nothing in the academy, at least that so our managers view, and there's no money going in to it. Then look at youngsters like Kennedy and Harris and they're treated like after thoughts too.

Slade has to go. His small time mentality is draining the club daily. Bellamy is the only real choice to try and give the club an X factor again. But it's no guarantee. We're looking at years of rebuilding now.

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:06 am

Majorca Blue wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:' CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLADE HANG YOUR HEAD IN SHAME '

The players show No desire or passion and the tactics well they just don't exist.

It really is time for our Club to have a New Owner and New Manager.

The club needs clearing out from top to bottom.

Clueless Owner and manager.


FA CUP 3RD

CARDIFF CITY 0 SHREWSBURY TOWN 1 :shock: :shock: :shock:

Moore; Fabio, Ecuele Manga, Tamas, Malone; Ameobi, Dikgacoi, O’Keefe, Whittingham; Macheda, Revell

Subs Marshall,Oshilaja, Kennedy,Declan John,Gunnarsson,Noone and Mason

For me Slade put out a very strong team to face Shrewsbury who had just lost their previous game 7-1 and lie 20th in the Div1.

For me this was a shocking/dire and shambles of a game by City and it will certainly not get our fans to return.

We had a very strong team out there and struggled at times against a worse than poor Shrewsbury team.

Tonight sums up how bad our club has become, another virtually empty stadium,followed by a shameful game.

Annis, I wasn't going to go tonight but my daughter nagged me and I wish she hadn't. There was no passion from the players bar a few and another showing from our inept clueless manager. You're right, we need a clear out from top to bottom.
See you in the morning Annis :thumbup:



Steve, See you this morning.

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:17 am

ThomasC wrote:
darts wrote:who will buy a club with a shit manager falling crowds and players just taking the easy money


anyone competent would see it as an opportunity. Harder to take over a successful club in some ways


Thomas, Tan will have to cut his losses.

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:19 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:Annis, it's only us loyal fans who will go now while he's around.

Those who would decide on the day or go to 10 or so a season won't be interested.


Yes, Ned, it will soon be down to the very hard core, my worry is,older fans like myself are so fed up by Tans circus etc etc that many of them have already stopped and it could get a lot worse.

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:56 am

I really don't see why/how people expect Tan to walk away.

When we were up for sale before (at a much cheaper price than now !!) they were hardly queuing around the block to buy us !! In fact, the queue consisted of Dato Chan with Tan in the background.

People really need to get real, Tan may well wish he never got involved and want to get out but he will not take a loss on his investment. He isn't that stupid to think player sales will make a dent in the money he is owed with only Marshall worth anything substantial.

We have to resign ourselves to Tan being here for a while, however, I do think that Slade is on borrowed time. Even if you accept the argument that Tan is running the club down his losses will increase under Slade once the squad pruning his finished as the attendances have reduced so much. I do think that Tan, and certainly Dalman and Choo, will be really concerned about attendance numbers.

Even if Tan is desperate to sell he knows that the price of a club attracting an averaging attendance of 20,000 is much more attractive to a buyer than a club attracting 12-14,000 a week. He may be many things, but he isn't stupid when it comes to making money !!

Just use common sense here and take the emotion out of it. Tan is here for a while, Slade ............... I'm not so sure.

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Mon Jan 11, 2016 9:50 am

How much do people think Tan will sell for?

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:46 am

Sick of the excuses. Once again I went. Once again I am unhappy. If you dont cone to games anymore, I really dont have time for your views. To me you are not Cardiff City.

A) Vincent Tan cannot sell the club, as who would want to buy our club? 5,000 fans... Hardly a great advert. Plus, what new owner wants to be laboured with the debt?

B) We are blue again, we play in the Championship, and are high up. Why arent people coming to games? We are luck the Newport County game was postponed because we were about to have a lower attendence than the tiny club 7 miles up the road.

C) Why should we sack Slade? He has got us into a reasonable position. We are hardly title contenders. Who would want to manage us? Whilst I would like Bellamy in, he is not qualified, plus I doubt people would come back.

D) My entry, why arent we recruiting Welsh players? We are the only Welsh club playing in England, that doesnt have at least 1 Welsh team regular. It is a joke. Declan John? Tommy O'Sullivan? We even let Yorwerth go, and he has already played for Ipswich.

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:37 pm

davids wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
KWest wrote:I won't embroil myself in the Vincent Tan debate, especially as I'd rather deal with him than an owner who'd risk our financial future again, but the Slade nonsense has to end now. We are playing horrible football, damn worse than what we played under Malky, and yet when Malky went we were promised a better brand of football from the club moving forward. Where the f**k is that better brand of football?

I can't think of any club right now that still has a manager as hated as ours? No one wants Slade at this club. He needs to leave now, and then it's up to our owner to give us a good appointment to replace him.


The answer is Tan and Slade are both clueless regarding football


Slade is Tan's revenge on the fans for daring to challenge him on the red bollocks.

Tan sitting at home pissing himself laughing at what we've become.


David
It feels that way, I just think Tan is Clueless regarding football and does not care one bit about Cardiff City.

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:51 pm

piledriver64 wrote:I really don't see why/how people expect Tan to walk away.

When we were up for sale before (at a much cheaper price than now !!) they were hardly queuing around the block to buy us !! In fact, the queue consisted of Dato Chan with Tan in the background.

People really need to get real, Tan may well wish he never got involved and want to get out but he will not take a loss on his investment. He isn't that stupid to think player sales will make a dent in the money he is owed with only Marshall worth anything substantial.

We have to resign ourselves to Tan being here for a while, however, I do think that Slade is on borrowed time. Even if you accept the argument that Tan is running the club down his losses will increase under Slade once the squad pruning his finished as the attendances have reduced so much. I do think that Tan, and certainly Dalman and Choo, will be really concerned about attendance numbers.

Even if Tan is desperate to sell he knows that the price of a club attracting an averaging attendance of 20,000 is much more attractive to a buyer than a club attracting 12-14,000 a week. He may be many things, but he isn't stupid when it comes to making money !!

Just use common sense here and take the emotion out of it. Tan is here for a while, Slade ............... I'm not so sure.



Your right we are stuck with Tan for now, but 100% Tan wants out ASAP. But there are no takers at this moment in time.

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:58 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:I really don't see why/how people expect Tan to walk away.

When we were up for sale before (at a much cheaper price than now !!) they were hardly queuing around the block to buy us !! In fact, the queue consisted of Dato Chan with Tan in the background.

People really need to get real, Tan may well wish he never got involved and want to get out but he will not take a loss on his investment. He isn't that stupid to think player sales will make a dent in the money he is owed with only Marshall worth anything substantial.

We have to resign ourselves to Tan being here for a while, however, I do think that Slade is on borrowed time. Even if you accept the argument that Tan is running the club down his losses will increase under Slade once the squad pruning his finished as the attendances have reduced so much. I do think that Tan, and certainly Dalman and Choo, will be really concerned about attendance numbers.

Even if Tan is desperate to sell he knows that the price of a club attracting an averaging attendance of 20,000 is much more attractive to a buyer than a club attracting 12-14,000 a week. He may be many things, but he isn't stupid when it comes to making money !!

Just use common sense here and take the emotion out of it. Tan is here for a while, Slade ............... I'm not so sure.



Your right we are stuck with Tan for now, but 100% Tan wants out ASAP. But there are no takers at this moment in time.





One of the few 'positives' from the Tan era is that (done properly) Cardiff City FC has the infrastructure and proven support-base to get to The Premier League and stay there. All we need now is someone who can 'action' it properly! :thumbup:

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:07 pm

MarshfieldIsBlue wrote:Sick of the excuses. Once again I went. Once again I am unhappy. If you dont cone to games anymore, I really dont have time for your views. To me you are not Cardiff City.

A) Vincent Tan cannot sell the club, as who would want to buy our club? 5,000 fans... Hardly a great advert. Plus, what new owner wants to be laboured with the debt?

B) We are blue again, we play in the Championship, and are high up. Why arent people coming to games? We are luck the Newport County game was postponed because we were about to have a lower attendence than the tiny club 7 miles up the road.

C) Why should we sack Slade? He has got us into a reasonable position. We are hardly title contenders. Who would want to manage us? Whilst I would like Bellamy in, he is not qualified, plus I doubt people would come back.

D) My entry, why arent we recruiting Welsh players? We are the only Welsh club playing in England, that doesnt have at least 1 Welsh team regular. It is a joke. Declan John? Tommy O'Sullivan? We even let Yorwerth go, and he has already played for Ipswich.



Your right, we are all fed up of excuses from Slade and its about time he stood up and took the blame for his dire football etc.

Re: CARDIFF CITY WILL CERTAINLY NOT GET THE FANS BACK & SLAD

Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:08 pm

Sven wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:I really don't see why/how people expect Tan to walk away.

When we were up for sale before (at a much cheaper price than now !!) they were hardly queuing around the block to buy us !! In fact, the queue consisted of Dato Chan with Tan in the background.

People really need to get real, Tan may well wish he never got involved and want to get out but he will not take a loss on his investment. He isn't that stupid to think player sales will make a dent in the money he is owed with only Marshall worth anything substantial.

We have to resign ourselves to Tan being here for a while, however, I do think that Slade is on borrowed time. Even if you accept the argument that Tan is running the club down his losses will increase under Slade once the squad pruning his finished as the attendances have reduced so much. I do think that Tan, and certainly Dalman and Choo, will be really concerned about attendance numbers.

Even if Tan is desperate to sell he knows that the price of a club attracting an averaging attendance of 20,000 is much more attractive to a buyer than a club attracting 12-14,000 a week. He may be many things, but he isn't stupid when it comes to making money !!

Just use common sense here and take the emotion out of it. Tan is here for a while, Slade ............... I'm not so sure.



Your right we are stuck with Tan for now, but 100% Tan wants out ASAP. But there are no takers at this moment in time.





One of the few 'positives' from the Tan era is that (done properly) Cardiff City FC has the infrastructure and proven support-base to get to The Premier League and stay there. All we need now is someone who can 'action' it properly! :thumbup:



Chris, We've always known we potentially have massive support and thats great, but the way our fans have deserted so quick that is a big worry and I am on about the Glory hunters/Red Brigade.