" ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

There will always be people like this. People that think the money men know best and the fans should just be grateful. The reality is that tan played the fans for fools over the rebrand and credit where it's due I suppose, it worked like a charm. The crazy thing is that even after everything that's happened there are still people that cannot or will not see what sort of a man he is. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Bluster and bullshit the fans are leaving in droves anyone who attends can see this...not rocket science.As a fan I thought last season was bad , I was mistaken this is worse.

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

I really don't know.

But your spot on John


I wonder if those who defend Tan actually went to all those games in the last 4-5 yrs and if they still go now? ? ?

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

There will always be people like this. People that think the money men know best and the fans should just be grateful. The reality is that tan played the fans for fools over the rebrand and credit where it's due I suppose, it worked like a charm. The crazy thing is that even after everything that's happened there are still people that cannot or will not see what sort of a man he is. There are none so blind as those who will not see.

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

Yo could have picked up a club on the verge of premiership football for £3m. Personally I believe that would have got a lot of interest.

However the board wanted Tan because he was a billionaire and was the best they could get for their own interests.

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

They always do.

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

Yo could have picked up a club on the verge of premiership football for £3m. Personally I believe that would have got a lot of interest.

However the board wanted Tan because he was a billionaire and was the best they could get for their own interests.

It wasn't 3 million it was 3 million plus debt (45 million) plus losing a million a week.

There wasn't a queue Ian there was one group interested. If we sold Matthews I doubt we would have even had Tan. Riddler would have continued f*cking us.

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

Yo could have picked up a club on the verge of premiership football for £3m. Personally I believe that would have got a lot of interest.

However the board wanted Tan because he was a billionaire and was the best they could get for their own interests.

It wasn't 3 million it was 3 million plus debt (45 million) plus losing a million a week.

There wasn't a queue Ian there was one group interested. If we sold Matthews I doubt we would have even had Tan. Riddler would have continued f*cking us.

Neil,

The summons was for £3m owed to the HMRC.

The debt was a none event regarding the liquidation. In fact the creditors where shitting themselves as if the HMRc had been given the green light all those stakeholders would have lost the lot. This is why the board and its ilk have been kissing Tans arse since.

It was a million a month we were losing as well. That was immaterial to the summons as well as the players would have simple not got paid.

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

And as I said the other day, the last 4 years have for me been a nightmare following City, Ive hated it and sometimes I personally feel maybe we might of been better if Tan had not got involved and taken our chances, Who really knows?

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

And as I said the other day, the last 4 years have for me been a nightmare following City, Ive hated it and sometimes I personally feel maybe we might of been better if Tan had not got involved and taken our chances, Who really knows?

An old hispanic proverb sums it up for me:

"Es mejor morir de pie que vivir de rodillas"

Which translates: "Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees"

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

And as I said the other day, the last 4 years have for me been a nightmare following City, Ive hated it and sometimes I personally feel maybe we might of been better if Tan had not got involved and taken our chances, Who really knows?

Wouldn't even get 5000 watching city in the Welsh league. If we were liquidated like Rangers a new club would have to be formed wouldn't it?

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

People not defending tan but putting an alternative to other opinions, or is it if you have different opinion so must support him? Mmmmm one sided debate is boring

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

And as I said the other day, the last 4 years have for me been a nightmare following City, Ive hated it and sometimes I personally feel maybe we might of been better if Tan had not got involved and taken our chances, Who really knows?

An old hispanic proverb sums it up for me:

"Es mejor morir de pie que vivir de rodillas"

Which translates: "Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees"

Thats very true

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

And as I said the other day, the last 4 years have for me been a nightmare following City, Ive hated it and sometimes I personally feel maybe we might of been better if Tan had not got involved and taken our chances, Who really knows?

An old hispanic proverb sums it up for me:

"Es mejor morir de pie que vivir de rodillas"

Which translates: "Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees"

Thats very true

Dying is never good!

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

And as I said the other day, the last 4 years have for me been a nightmare following City, Ive hated it and sometimes I personally feel maybe we might of been better if Tan had not got involved and taken our chances, Who really knows?

An old hispanic proverb sums it up for me:

"Es mejor morir de pie que vivir de rodillas"

Which translates: "Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees"

Thats very true

Dying is never good!

Allan, to many diehard fans our club is already dead and for me its 100% not the same.

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC

People not defending tan but putting an alternative to other opinions, or is it if you have different opinion so must support him? Mmmmm one sided debate is boring

Very true. I have written tan has made mistakes. However he cannot be blamed for everything.

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC

People not defending tan but putting an alternative to other opinions, or is it if you have different opinion so must support him? Mmmmm one sided debate is boring

Very true. I have written tan has made mistakes. However he cannot be blamed for everything.

Well its obvious to some everything comes down to tan regardless of fault or blame! Except of course when its something positive!!

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

And as I said the other day, the last 4 years have for me been a nightmare following City, Ive hated it and sometimes I personally feel maybe we might of been better if Tan had not got involved and taken our chances, Who really knows?

An old hispanic proverb sums it up for me:

"Es mejor morir de pie que vivir de rodillas"

Which translates: "Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees"

We weren't on our feet. We were bent over being fucked up the arse by Riddler (compass, blues, golden ticket scam at the very least), PMG, Isaacs, HMRC and others we owed money to.

Or if you like we were on our knees sucking them off.

Either way we weren't on our feet.

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

And as I said the other day, the last 4 years have for me been a nightmare following City, Ive hated it and sometimes I personally feel maybe we might of been better if Tan had not got involved and taken our chances, Who really knows?

An old hispanic proverb sums it up for me:

"Es mejor morir de pie que vivir de rodillas"

Which translates: "Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees"

Thats very true

Dying is never good!

Allan, to many diehard fans our club is already dead and for me its 100% not the same.

Maybe so Anni's but its about perspective! As I've said before I only support team what politics ect ect goes on is mostly out fans control, so as long got team to support that's good enough for me just like past 45yrs!

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

Yo could have picked up a club on the verge of premiership football for £3m. Personally I believe that would have got a lot of interest.

However the board wanted Tan because he was a billionaire and was the best they could get for their own interests.

It wasn't 3 million it was 3 million plus debt (45 million) plus losing a million a week.

There wasn't a queue Ian there was one group interested. If we sold Matthews I doubt we would have even had Tan. Riddler would have continued f*cking us.

Neil,

The summons was for £3m owed to the HMRC.

The debt was a none event regarding the liquidation. In fact the creditors where shitting themselves as if the HMRc had been given the green light all those stakeholders would have lost the lot. This is why the board and its ilk have been kissing Tans arse since.

It was a million a month we were losing as well. That was immaterial to the summons as well as the players would have simple not got paid.

This is correct!

People need to separate the HMRC debt from the rest of what was going on at that time!

Businesses (as in Swansea's case) would have lost a lot of money but it wouldn't have necessarily 'folded' the club completely

Government-run HMRC are a totally different animal though and they take no prisoners, so that £3m (an apparently 'small' sum out of the total debt) was the figure that nearly put the club out of business!

Was it the right thing to do or was there another (less savoury) route? I don't know the answer but I have to admit I was more comfortable 'doing the right thing' by all our creditors and paying them £ for £ rather than pennies in the £ like certain other clubs we might mention!

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

Yo could have picked up a club on the verge of premiership football for £3m. Personally I believe that would have got a lot of interest.

However the board wanted Tan because he was a billionaire and was the best they could get for their own interests.

It wasn't 3 million it was 3 million plus debt (45 million) plus losing a million a week.

There wasn't a queue Ian there was one group interested. If we sold Matthews I doubt we would have even had Tan. Riddler would have continued f*cking us.

Neil,

The summons was for £3m owed to the HMRC.

The debt was a none event regarding the liquidation. In fact the creditors where shitting themselves as if the HMRc had been given the green light all those stakeholders would have lost the lot. This is why the board and its ilk have been kissing Tans arse since.

It was a million a month we were losing as well. That was immaterial to the summons as well as the players would have simple not got paid.

This is correct!

People need to separate the HMRC debt from the rest of what was going on at that time!

Businesses (as in Swansea's case) would have lost a lot of money but it wouldn't have necessarily 'folded' the club completely

Government-run HMRC are a totally different animal though and they take no prisoners, so that £3m (an apparently 'small' sum out of the total debt) was the figure that nearly put the club out of business!

Was it the right thing to do or was there another (less savoury) route? I don't know the answer but I have to admit I was more comfortable 'doing the right thing' by all our creditors and paying them £ for £ rather than pennies in the £ like certain other clubs we might mention!

There were no options for the HMRC debt. Riddler had expanded all his options.

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

And as I said the other day, the last 4 years have for me been a nightmare following City, Ive hated it and sometimes I personally feel maybe we might of been better if Tan had not got involved and taken our chances, Who really knows?

An old hispanic proverb sums it up for me:

"Es mejor morir de pie que vivir de rodillas"

Which translates: "Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees"

We weren't on our feet. We were bent over being fucked up the arse by Riddler (compass, blues, golden ticket scam at the very least), PMG, Isaacs, HMRC and others we owed money to.

Or if you like we were on our knees sucking them off.

Either way we weren't on our feet.

Your forgetting all the fit out cost of the stadium all the companies were owed millions too ,even the bloody lauduary lady was owed money tan personal paid off 500 k to someone I know as soon as he took over

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

And as I said the other day, the last 4 years have for me been a nightmare following City, Ive hated it and sometimes I personally feel maybe we might of been better if Tan had not got involved and taken our chances, Who really knows?

An old hispanic proverb sums it up for me:

"Es mejor morir de pie que vivir de rodillas"

Which translates: "Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees"

We weren't on our feet. We were bent over being fucked up the arse by Riddler (compass, blues, golden ticket scam at the very least), PMG, Isaacs, HMRC and others we owed money to.

Or if you like we were on our knees sucking them off.

Either way we weren't on our feet.

Your forgetting all the fit out cost of the stadium all the companies were owed millions too ,even the bloody lauduary lady was owed money tan personal paid off 500 k to someone I know as soon as he took over

Covered in others we owed money to.

It's there in black and white Wez.

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

Yo could have picked up a club on the verge of premiership football for £3m. Personally I believe that would have got a lot of interest.

However the board wanted Tan because he was a billionaire and was the best they could get for their own interests.

It wasn't 3 million it was 3 million plus debt (45 million) plus losing a million a week.

There wasn't a queue Ian there was one group interested. If we sold Matthews I doubt we would have even had Tan. Riddler would have continued f*cking us.

Neil,

The summons was for £3m owed to the HMRC.

The debt was a none event regarding the liquidation. In fact the creditors where shitting themselves as if the HMRc had been given the green light all those stakeholders would have lost the lot. This is why the board and its ilk have been kissing Tans arse since.

It was a million a month we were losing as well. That was immaterial to the summons as well as the players would have simple not got paid.

This is correct!

People need to separate the HMRC debt from the rest of what was going on at that time!

Businesses (as in Swansea's case) would have lost a lot of money but it wouldn't have necessarily 'folded' the club completely

Government-run HMRC are a totally different animal though and they take no prisoners, so that £3m (an apparently 'small' sum out of the total debt) was the figure that nearly put the club out of business!

Was it the right thing to do or was there another (less savoury) route? I don't know the answer but I have to admit I was more comfortable 'doing the right thing' by all our creditors and paying them £ for £ rather than pennies in the £ like certain other clubs we might mention!

There were no options for the HMRC debt. Riddler had expanded all his options.

That was certainly hr case, Neil

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Why are people still defending Tan? And why does Malky always come up?

Tan is the reason. Tan is the disease. Tan is not CCFC.

You seem to conveniently overlook the fact that we were up shit creek before he bailed us out. I seem to recall that there were not many others prepared to stave off the HMRC threat.

Yo could have picked up a club on the verge of premiership football for £3m. Personally I believe that would have got a lot of interest.

However the board wanted Tan because he was a billionaire and was the best they could get for their own interests.

It wasn't 3 million it was 3 million plus debt (45 million) plus losing a million a week.

There wasn't a queue Ian there was one group interested. If we sold Matthews I doubt we would have even had Tan. Riddler would have continued f*cking us.

Neil,

The summons was for £3m owed to the HMRC.

The debt was a none event regarding the liquidation. In fact the creditors where shitting themselves as if the HMRc had been given the green light all those stakeholders would have lost the lot. This is why the board and its ilk have been kissing Tans arse since.

It was a million a month we were losing as well. That was immaterial to the summons as well as the players would have simple not got paid.

This is correct!

People need to separate the HMRC debt from the rest of what was going on at that time!

Businesses (as in Swansea's case) would have lost a lot of money but it wouldn't have necessarily 'folded' the club completely

Government-run HMRC are a totally different animal though and they take no prisoners, so that £3m (an apparently 'small' sum out of the total debt) was the figure that nearly put the club out of business!

Was it the right thing to do or was there another (less savoury) route? I don't know the answer but I have to admit I was more comfortable 'doing the right thing' by all our creditors and paying them £ for £ rather than pennies in the £ like certain other clubs we might mention!

There were no options for the HMRC debt. Riddler had expanded all his options.

That was certainly hr case, Neil

If they had got 5 million for Matthews and paid HMRC would have only papered over the cracks.

I'm probably the only one but I don't think Ridsdale was a wrong un. I think that he was simply spinning plates, doing whatever he could to keep the club going. Yes that included lying about the early season ticket money but I really think he was acting in the best interests of the club.
I see Tan as a proper baddy, a Ernst Blofeld or a Darth Vader. Ridsdale was more of an Arthur Daley.

I'm probably the only one but I don't think Ridsdale was a wrong un. I think that he was simply spinning plates, doing whatever he could to keep the club going. Yes that included lying about the early season ticket money but I really think he was acting in the best interests of the club.
I see Tan as a proper baddy, a Ernst Blofeld or a Darth Vader. Ridsdale was more of an Arthur Daley.

500k a year out of a insolvent business hmmmmmm risdale was a c**t

I'm probably the only one but I don't think Ridsdale was a wrong un. I think that he was simply spinning plates, doing whatever he could to keep the club going. Yes that included lying about the early season ticket money but I really think he was acting in the best interests of the club.
I see Tan as a proper baddy, a Ernst Blofeld or a Darth Vader. Ridsdale was more of an Arthur Daley.

Then why is he banned from being involved in football?