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Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:53 am

Couldnt have put it better myself.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:55 am

carlccfc wrote:
Danny Says wrote:
carlccfc wrote:


I am not a believer that Slade is the right guy to succeed but he has exceeded my expectations and I don't see Tan going for a manager who would want control so in my opinion we may as well support what we got this season and see where that takes us.


Do you really think he has a clue about what happens at CCS? (Or even a care after the rebrand turn around?)

Until and unless the club appoints people who understand football, and have a mandate to advise the owner as to the what direction the football side of the club should be going, then nothing is going to change.

If you disagree or know better, then tell us who is advising Tan and the board on the football side, and what their football credentiasl are.

I have banged the drum for years that City need a 'football man' between the owner and manager making football decisions.

Tan believes he is the right man to be making managerial changes and even signing players.

The guy is a loose cannon who listens to nobody, not even his mother.


As I suspected, a football club, Cardiff City AFC has no person advising the owner on football affairs.

In that case what hope is there? Slade goes to him and says I know of some players who would enhance the squad, who we could get for a decent fee - O'Keefe, Doyle & Revell instantly sprint to my mind- and Tan says yes ok, whatever you say, you are the football man so I have to go along with you.

What Slade should be saying is along the lines of "well Vincent, you brought me in to prune the squad and wages, which I have done as best I can except Jones, but I have no experience in managing a football team at this level, what sort of players are needed, and will just muddle along until you tell me otherwise."

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:11 pm

polo wrote:Bellamy is a hot head there's no denying that but if you've ever taken the time to listen to him talk football he is obviously a student of the game and speaks a lot of sense.

It's also well known fact how professional he is and demands those standards from those around him.

After his performance on MNF the other week I'm sure if he doesn't get a coaching / management job them SKY will snap him up as a permanent fixture.

I don't really see his aggression and passion being an issue. A lot of top managers have those traits. Fergie was very hot headed in his earlier days.
him and tan get on very well people who say he wouldn't work with tan are wrong. Tan respects his opinion ,if you have heard bellamy over the years he doesn't have a bad word to say about him ,he brought him back to the club and paid him ,bellamy has been over to meet tan a few times and tan wanted bellamy before dalman got ole ,I think you might see him manager soon

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:18 pm

wez1927 wrote:
polo wrote:Bellamy is a hot head there's no denying that but if you've ever taken the time to listen to him talk football he is obviously a student of the game and speaks a lot of sense.

It's also well known fact how professional he is and demands those standards from those around him.

After his performance on MNF the other week I'm sure if he doesn't get a coaching / management job them SKY will snap him up as a permanent fixture.

I don't really see his aggression and passion being an issue. A lot of top managers have those traits. Fergie was very hot headed in his earlier days.
him and tan get on very well people who say he wouldn't work with tan are wrong. Tan respects his opinion ,if you have heard bellamy over the years he doesn't have a bad word to say about him ,he brought him back to the club and paid him ,bellamy has been over to meet tan a few times and tan wanted bellamy before dalman got ole ,I think you might see him manager soon


I think it's a done deal for the summer Wez

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:20 pm

not good enough paul

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:21 pm

polo wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
polo wrote:Bellamy is a hot head there's no denying that but if you've ever taken the time to listen to him talk football he is obviously a student of the game and speaks a lot of sense.

It's also well known fact how professional he is and demands those standards from those around him.

After his performance on MNF the other week I'm sure if he doesn't get a coaching / management job them SKY will snap him up as a permanent fixture.

I don't really see his aggression and passion being an issue. A lot of top managers have those traits. Fergie was very hot headed in his earlier days.
him and tan get on very well people who say he wouldn't work with tan are wrong. Tan respects his opinion ,if you have heard bellamy over the years he doesn't have a bad word to say about him ,he brought him back to the club and paid him ,bellamy has been over to meet tan a few times and tan wanted bellamy before dalman got ole ,I think you might see him manager soon


I think it's a done deal for the summer Wez


Why not make it a deal now. Will do wonders for season ticket sales.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:24 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
polo wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
polo wrote:Bellamy is a hot head there's no denying that but if you've ever taken the time to listen to him talk football he is obviously a student of the game and speaks a lot of sense.

It's also well known fact how professional he is and demands those standards from those around him.

After his performance on MNF the other week I'm sure if he doesn't get a coaching / management job them SKY will snap him up as a permanent fixture.

I don't really see his aggression and passion being an issue. A lot of top managers have those traits. Fergie was very hot headed in his earlier days.
him and tan get on very well people who say he wouldn't work with tan are wrong. Tan respects his opinion ,if you have heard bellamy over the years he doesn't have a bad word to say about him ,he brought him back to the club and paid him ,bellamy has been over to meet tan a few times and tan wanted bellamy before dalman got ole ,I think you might see him manager soon


I think it's a done deal for the summer Wez


Why not make it a deal now. Will do wonders for season ticket sales.


I think Tan thinks he saves face by letting Slade run his contract out and not sacking him.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:24 pm

keano wrote:not good enough paul

Stick to rugby Roy

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:27 pm

polo wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
polo wrote:Bellamy is a hot head there's no denying that but if you've ever taken the time to listen to him talk football he is obviously a student of the game and speaks a lot of sense.

It's also well known fact how professional he is and demands those standards from those around him.

After his performance on MNF the other week I'm sure if he doesn't get a coaching / management job them SKY will snap him up as a permanent fixture.

I don't really see his aggression and passion being an issue. A lot of top managers have those traits. Fergie was very hot headed in his earlier days.
him and tan get on very well people who say he wouldn't work with tan are wrong. Tan respects his opinion ,if you have heard bellamy over the years he doesn't have a bad word to say about him ,he brought him back to the club and paid him ,bellamy has been over to meet tan a few times and tan wanted bellamy before dalman got ole ,I think you might see him manager soon


I think it's a done deal for the summer Wez
I think you could be right

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:57 pm

Carl,

Finally a bit of realism from message board committee

We r where r

Ffp ruling

Oles massive overspend and as you said Delmetts choice

Slade I believe has only really Been truly involved in 3 signings pettier , Malone and Revell

The rest have been the major choices of the ccfc transfer comittee ie Delmett , choo & Tan

Yes we got slade on cheap

But Tans choice of slade was because Delmett failed with his.and as we believe the good thing is Delmett is tied in financially also so hence his passion

We can look back but Tan is that interested anymore ? who would be after he was ridiculed over Redgate and Malkay gate

Although wholes scenerio was poorly managed by Tan and directors good job Smoothy Delmett rescued some of carnage

We can't go back but facts are he invested and invested heavily , Cardiff directors are to blame and not being strong on culture of club and made wrong decision on selling of blue to red . That was always going to devide us a very poor choice by Borely and co


But we can't go back we r where r

Slades has been working within a political mind field with no real monies and juggling with a playing squad that was out of control when joined plus not knowing back room staff but who else as Carl says would have come in with no money to spend even on back room staff

Fk all managers of Any note


Fair dos Slade cv will be enhanced either way


Real asset test for all of us should be to see if finally this jan Tan really gives Slade full backing to strengthen

Or r we going to asset strip squad and juggle to buy better


I really hope Slade get his Christmas wish pocket money because only then can we truly judge Slade going forward

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:33 pm

Carl Robinson would be my choice, still young and IMO done a brilliant job at MK Dons & probably ready for a fresh challenge.

Who will Tan bring in? Not a Scooby...........but wouldn't be surprised if it was? :shock:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 5:44 pm

Valley Lad wrote:Carl Robinson would be my choice, still young and IMO done a brilliant job at MK Dons & probably ready for a fresh challenge.

Who will Tan bring in? Not a Scooby...........but wouldn't be surprised if it was? :shock:


Probably a manager with Continental Europe that Tan has been advised by his sporting director at his Belgian club.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:29 pm

It would most likely help a manager/ Bellamy to take over after this season. They can sort everything from pre season to sorting the squad.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:52 pm

I think it would be difficult to keep quite, so the earlier they announce that Bellers or whoever will be the manager the better. The current players will know they can't toss around as the new manager is in and around the place.

If its good enough for Bayern, then it's good enough for us.


I just want him gone

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 6:59 pm

polo wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
polo wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
polo wrote:Bellamy is a hot head there's no denying that but if you've ever taken the time to listen to him talk football he is obviously a student of the game and speaks a lot of sense.

It's also well known fact how professional he is and demands those standards from those around him.

After his performance on MNF the other week I'm sure if he doesn't get a coaching / management job them SKY will snap him up as a permanent fixture.

I don't really see his aggression and passion being an issue. A lot of top managers have those traits. Fergie was very hot headed in his earlier days.
him and tan get on very well people who say he wouldn't work with tan are wrong. Tan respects his opinion ,if you have heard bellamy over the years he doesn't have a bad word to say about him ,he brought him back to the club and paid him ,bellamy has been over to meet tan a few times and tan wanted bellamy before dalman got ole ,I think you might see him manager soon


I think it's a done deal for the summer Wez


Why not make it a deal now. Will do wonders for season ticket sales.


I think Tan thinks he saves face by letting Slade run his contract out and not sacking him.


Could be right.

It will be interesting to see if Tan allows Slade to talk to Luton.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:52 pm

carlccfc wrote:Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

If you get your wish and Vincent Tan sacks Slade, who do you think Tan will replace him with ?

That is not, who you want or who you would like Tan to replace him with ?

Tan is making cut backs, he is selling and cutting the wage bill, that includes the level of manager we employ as well.

Slade is doing what is expected of him by Tan, he is selling players, cutting the wage bill and we are competing in the league.

I didn't think, and I dont think many others did either, that we would be above mid table this season under Slade but he is doing better than most of us thought we would so with that in mind and remember who chooses the manager and the pay he will get and the constraints he will work under, don't you think we would be jumping from the fire pan into the fire?

I am not a believer that Slade is the right guy to succeed but he has exceeded my expectations and I don't see Tan going for a manager who would want control so in my opinion we may as well support what we got this season and see where that takes us.

Carl,

I've been thinking about this ever since you asked Ned and I the question last night in which I couldn't really answer. I still can't answer who I think Tan would replace Slade with but I really wouldn't mind if Tan brought in another puppet as long as that puppet knew what he was doing and played entertaining football with, let's face it, a squad that is very capable of pissing the playoffs, I think that's what the majority of us fans hope for and I'm sorry but we are never going to get that with Slade. I do agree though that Slade has over achieved and done exactly what he was brought in to do and he has got very lucky in terms of results we have been getting but I'm afraid that luck will soon run out and that is when you will see us heading for mid-table obscurity come the end of the season, which is fine as most of us predicted just that. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 9:56 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
polo wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
polo wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
polo wrote:Bellamy is a hot head there's no denying that but if you've ever taken the time to listen to him talk football he is obviously a student of the game and speaks a lot of sense.

It's also well known fact how professional he is and demands those standards from those around him.

After his performance on MNF the other week I'm sure if he doesn't get a coaching / management job them SKY will snap him up as a permanent fixture.

I don't really see his aggression and passion being an issue. A lot of top managers have those traits. Fergie was very hot headed in his earlier days.
him and tan get on very well people who say he wouldn't work with tan are wrong. Tan respects his opinion ,if you have heard bellamy over the years he doesn't have a bad word to say about him ,he brought him back to the club and paid him ,bellamy has been over to meet tan a few times and tan wanted bellamy before dalman got ole ,I think you might see him manager soon


I think it's a done deal for the summer Wez


Why not make it a deal now. Will do wonders for season ticket sales.


I think Tan thinks he saves face by letting Slade run his contract out and not sacking him.


Could be right.

It will be interesting to see if Tan allows Slade to talk to Luton.


That would be a win win for Tan as he gets compensation and saves face.

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Wed Dec 30, 2015 11:47 pm

SLADE HAS DONE HIS BIT, TRIMMED THE SQUAD, GOT RID OF QUALITY PLAYERS, JUST NOT A COACH - HE KNOWS THAT, WE ALL KNOW THAT. HE NOW NEEDS TO GO TBH...NICE GUY, BUT NOT A QUALITY COACH. :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:43 pm

Slade gets 120k a year, Bellamy was on 60k a week when he was a player!

The question the Slade out brigade need to think about is if they want Slade out who will come in on the same money?

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:42 pm

The people who want Slade out are the ones who been crying for us to cost cut for years, embarrassing. :laughing5:

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:03 pm

Tan would replace him with help from the main men at Kortrijk and Sarajevo. If the bloke at Kortrijk can conduct the deal for Saadi I'm sure he can find a young coach who will wnat to manage a side like us

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:06 pm

Valley Lad wrote:Carl Robinson would be my choice, still young and IMO done a brilliant job at MK Dons & probably ready for a fresh challenge.

Who will Tan bring in? Not a Scooby...........but wouldn't be surprised if it was? :shock:

Karl manages MK, Carl manages Vancouer Whitecaps. I'd like to see both in the role

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:28 pm

BlueSince1908 wrote:
Valley Lad wrote:Carl Robinson would be my choice, still young and IMO done a brilliant job at MK Dons & probably ready for a fresh challenge.

Who will Tan bring in? Not a Scooby...........but wouldn't be surprised if it was? :shock:

Karl manages MK, Carl manages Vancouer Whitecaps. I'd like to see both in the role

Never trust a Karl who spells Carl with a K

Re: Question for the ' SLADE OUT ' brigade

Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:59 pm

Stuart pearce,kene or shearer for me. Name,name,name.