" YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

Would you trust slade with your money?? ... I wouldnt

There is no money to spend clearly so it makes no difference as its all be cost cutting and more to follow.
Tans on his way out over the next two years in my opinion while getting what he can along the way.

I couldn't care less if we only spent 50pence on a player as i just want the debt gone and tan gone. Its not all about glory for some when your club has no f*cking soul or passion in the stands what so ever due to whats gone on in the past.

I will be there like many others if we had 11 freebies from div 2 come in as i've seen it all before over the years. That's what being a fan is all about for me.

People who moan saying we are not spending money on players then the next saying we need to lower the debt makes zero sence at all, some want tan to spend and the next they want tan out in a thread

The reason we got slade to start with is to do the cost cutting and listen to what tan wants plus hes the cheaper option. I mean who else got an interview from city for the job when malky got the boot.........NOBODY EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS HIGHER PROFILE MANAGERS ON PAPER OUT THERE

There is no money for tan to take whilst the wage bill is anything over 20 million there is no money ,he's bound by company law ,you just can take money out it doesn't work Like that

So whats the answer then wez as hes not spending to get it back so for me its the first option getting what he can and where I said nobody else got interviewed I forgot about the Dundee manager turning us down before slade and the reason why he turned us down which kind of tells me why we had slade also, im not knocking slade as his hands are tied so hes doing whats asked of him so far and we aint doing bad in the league atm so how can i....

Paul hartley said in the media as to why he turned down the city job before slade

“There was a lot of stuff going on at Cardiff City that wouldn’t have made the job entirely mine, in terms of decision-making, so I just felt it wasn’t for me.

“I feel that I am my own person and like to have the final say in things.”

LINK - http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ball-news/

Paul Hartley is still with Dundee as far as I know. I would have thought even though we might not be the most fashionable club in the Championship, we would have been a stepping stone in the right direction for Hartley. For him to turn down the opportunity of managing a club that many on this forum predicted would soon be back in the Premier League tells me that the ambitions of this club did'nt meet his ambitions, as well as the fact that he could see he would have to do the job with one arm tied behind his back.

" YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

I've now spoken to numerous persons at our club including Directors, Dalman,CEO Ken Choo and coaches etc
To be fair to Russell Slade he has done everything that has been asked of him, cost cutting including get rid of players he might of needed etc

Slade has virtually spent zero on transfers this season, but I will say when given money last season players in, in my opinion were not Championship standard, Doyle, Revel, O'Keefe, Kennedy etc , plus out of 14 of his signings only 1 player Peltier plays week in week out.

Slade this season has asked for a new striker and a new midfielder, was told we have to see how Tans news signing Saadi does first and wait till January at least and then told you have enough midfielders.

If your not going to back your football manager, you surely don't believe in him?

Is it because of lack of funds? Yet Tan and Dalman publicly stated this season they would back Slade or is it that they don't believe in Slade or trust his judgement as a manager?

If so they should sack him, if they want promotion?

Opinions please

it depends if they've told slade he has to sell ,to fund any new players ,we do need new players but I think we need to get rid of the dead wood too there's players picking up wages which are not in slades plans and need to be moved on sold or out on loan ,Im wondering annis what you think as you have been the most vocal of the debt we are in do you think we should go into more debt to buy players or should we sell to fund new players ?

If only one of Slades signings are playing regularly then the other 13 are possibly his deadwood.

No wonder they won't give him more money!

Would you trust slade with your money?? ... I wouldnt

There is no money to spend clearly so it makes no difference as its all be cost cutting and more to follow.
Tans on his way out over the next two years in my opinion while getting what he can along the way.

I couldn't care less if we only spent 50pence on a player as i just want the debt gone and tan gone. Its not all about glory for some when your club has no f*cking soul or passion in the stands what so ever due to whats gone on in the past.

I will be there like many others if we had 11 freebies from div 2 come in as i've seen it all before over the years. That's what being a fan is all about for me.

People who moan saying we are not spending money on players then the next saying we need to lower the debt makes zero sence at all, some want tan to spend and the next they want tan out in a thread

The reason we got slade to start with is to do the cost cutting and listen to what tan wants plus hes the cheaper option. I mean who else got an interview from city for the job when malky got the boot.........NOBODY EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS HIGHER PROFILE MANAGERS ON PAPER OUT THERE

There is no money for tan to take whilst the wage bill is anything over 20 million there is no money ,he's bound by company law ,you just can take money out it doesn't work Like that

So whats the answer then wez as hes not spending to get it back so for me its the first option getting what he can and where I said nobody else got interviewed I forgot about the Dundee manager turning us down before slade and the reason why he turned us down which kind of tells me why we had slade also, im not knocking slade as his hands are tied so hes doing whats asked of him so far and we aint doing bad in the league atm so how can i....

Paul hartley said in the media as to why he turned down the city job before slade

“There was a lot of stuff going on at Cardiff City that wouldn’t have made the job entirely mine, in terms of decision-making, so I just felt it wasn’t for me.

“I feel that I am my own person and like to have the final say in things.”

LINK - http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ball-news/

Pulis turned down Sunderland for same reason and initially wba before owner changed mind? It's very common to run club this way now! Owners to big for boots

Keep him untill the end of the season, thank him for all he's done and find a manager that can move us forward.

I agree but I said this last season

Personally I like Kennedy and would like to see more of him Whittingham's days as a winger are long gone and Ralls is a central midfielder other than that I agree Slades transfer knowledge is abysmal at best and alot of his signings shouldn't of been signed and I honestly hate Revel he's absolutely useless and couldn't score regularly at lower levels so god knows what possessed Slade thinking he would have an impact in the championship

He is doing exactly what he was brought in to do. Help to reduce the debt and day to day running costs, while keeping us away from the relegation zone at the same time. I have said since the season started that promotion is not on Tan's list of priorities. If it was, he would have splashed out on someone with experience at this level, and a track record of getting clubs promoted. If you were really aiming for the Premiership this season, would you employ a manager who has absolutely no experience of management outside of the bottom leagues, and a manager who has never actually won anything during a fairly lengthy career.

Eddie Howe hadn't won anything or managed at a high level until he took little Bournemouth up and up and up again.

difference here though is Eddie howe is a young manager with fresh ideas slade has had 20 years of experience and hasn't won promotion he won't change tactics fair enough if the tactics worked but they don't we are not creative and that is down to Slades poor tactics, slade will never take us forward

Eddie Howe's Bournemouth were a joy to watch last season playing a very sophisticated style of football

Exactly a young up and coming manager with a fresh approach on how to play, slade is a dinosaur who is stuck in the 90s that won't change

Remember Eddie Howe bombed at Burnley

same as slade has bombed here

He is doing exactly what he was brought in to do. Help to reduce the debt and day to day running costs, while keeping us away from the relegation zone at the same time. I have said since the season started that promotion is not on Tan's list of priorities. If it was, he would have splashed out on someone with experience at this level, and a track record of getting clubs promoted. If you were really aiming for the Premiership this season, would you employ a manager who has absolutely no experience of management outside of the bottom leagues, and a manager who has never actually won anything during a fairly lengthy career.

Eddie Howe hadn't won anything or managed at a high level until he took little Bournemouth up and up and up again.

difference here though is Eddie howe is a young manager with fresh ideas slade has had 20 years of experience and hasn't won promotion he won't change tactics fair enough if the tactics worked but they don't we are not creative and that is down to Slades poor tactics, slade will never take us forward

Eddie Howe's Bournemouth were a joy to watch last season playing a very sophisticated style of football

Exactly a young up and coming manager with a fresh approach on how to play, slade is a dinosaur who is stuck in the 90s that won't change

Remember Eddie Howe bombed at Burnley

same as slade has bombed here

How? he is doing a reasonably good job with the resources hes got.

With the parachute payments dwindling, so the ability to spend big in this division lessens.
Teams that invest are normally the ones that progress, time is of the essence in that respect.
Whilst we can Hope for a quick return to the Prem, can any of us honestly see it? I cannot.
Tan has no reason to dismiss Slade purely becuase as you have all said Slade has done everything asked of him.
14 players purchased one plays regularly, would you allow that man to spend big in this division?
I wouldn't.

Unsure what Tans plans are, only time will tell.

With the parachute payments dwindling, so the ability to spend big in this division lessens.
Teams that invest are normally the ones that progress, time is of the essence in that respect.
Whilst we can Hope for a quick return to the Prem, can any of us honestly see it? I cannot.
Tan has no reason to dismiss Slade purely becuase as you have all said Slade has done everything asked of him.
14 players purchased one plays regularly, would you allow that man to spend big in this division?
I wouldn't.

Unsure what Tans plans are, only time will tell.

He hasn't made anywhere near 14 permanent signings.

" YOU BACK YOUR MANAGER OR YOU SACK HIM? "

I've now spoken to numerous persons at our club including Directors, Dalman,CEO Ken Choo and coaches etc
To be fair to Russell Slade he has done everything that has been asked of him, cost cutting including get rid of players he might of needed etc

Slade has virtually spent zero on transfers this season, but I will say when given money last season players in, in my opinion were not Championship standard, Doyle, Revel, O'Keefe, Kennedy etc , plus out of 14 of his signings only 1 player Peltier plays week in week out.

Slade this season has asked for a new striker and a new midfielder, was told we have to see how Tans news signing Saadi does first and wait till January at least and then told you have enough midfielders.

If your not going to back your football manager, you surely don't believe in him?

Is it because of lack of funds? Yet Tan and Dalman publicly stated this season they would back Slade or is it that they don't believe in Slade or trust his judgement as a manager?

If so they should sack him, if they want promotion?

Opinions please

it depends if they've told slade he has to sell ,to fund any new players ,we do need new players but I think we need to get rid of the dead wood too there's players picking up wages which are not in slades plans and need to be moved on sold or out on loan ,Im wondering annis what you think as you have been the most vocal of the debt we are in do you think we should go into more debt to buy players or should we sell to fund new players ?

If only one of Slades signings are playing regularly then the other 13 are possibly his deadwood.

No wonder they won't give him more money!

He hasn't signed 14 players. He has also signed players for the future Saadi, Ajayi so to say the other players (apart from Peltier who is playing) are deadwood is simply wrong. Malone is a very good option at left back.

Annis you havnt answered a question posted earlier ,do you want the club to go into more debt or sell players so slade can get some new players which are needed

We'z give up asking annis for an answer regarding our spending/ debt as you will never get one from him ,I've been trying for ages
This is just another rubbish thread knocking the club and slade just to get hits as its so quiet on here think a lot of our fans must be on holiday no wonder the gates are so low at the moment

Funny Steve you keep saying I am holiday Im sorting the future for my children and their new school a pity that never happened in your family, children first
Plus you went about 15 years without watching City and during the bad real years

Annis you havnt answered a question posted earlier ,do you want the club to go into more debt or sell players so slade can get some new players which are needed

As you know if the club does not spend at least something it's highly unlikely they will not get promoted.
It's been publicly stated that Tan would back Slade in the transfer market this season, well we are still waiting?

If you don't speculate a little bit, you will not get no return in life.
Ok so by say spending nothing, we are now getting less crowds and look like we are going no where, so in the long run, we will be worse in debt.
No one is asking for millions upon millions, Slade just wants 2 players, so I say back him or sack him, Simple

Annis you havnt answered a question posted earlier ,do you want the club to go into more debt or sell players so slade can get some new players which are needed

As you know if the club does not spend at least something it's highly unlikely they will not get promoted.
It's been publicly stated that Tan would back Slade in the transfer market this season, well we are still waiting?

If you don't speculate a little bit, you will not get no return in life.
Ok so by say spending nothing, we are now getting less crowds and look like we are going no where, so in the long run, we will be worse in debt.
No one is asking for millions upon millions, Slade just wants 2 players, so I say back him or sack him, Simple

Would you sell marshal to fund a few players coming in ?

Annis you havnt answered a question posted earlier ,do you want the club to go into more debt or sell players so slade can get some new players which are needed

As you know if the club does not spend at least something it's highly unlikely they will not get promoted.
It's been publicly stated that Tan would back Slade in the transfer market this season, well we are still waiting?

If you don't speculate a little bit, you will not get no return in life.
Ok so by say spending nothing, we are now getting less crowds and look like we are going no where, so in the long run, we will be worse in debt.
No one is asking for millions upon millions, Slade just wants 2 players, so I say back him or sack him, Simple

Would you sell marshal to fund a few players coming in ?

100% I would sell Marshall if the money was able to be spent on new players

Annis you havnt answered a question posted earlier ,do you want the club to go into more debt or sell players so slade can get some new players which are needed

As you know if the club does not spend at least something it's highly unlikely they will not get promoted.
It's been publicly stated that Tan would back Slade in the transfer market this season, well we are still waiting?

If you don't speculate a little bit, you will not get no return in life.
Ok so by say spending nothing, we are now getting less crowds and look like we are going no where, so in the long run, we will be worse in debt.
No one is asking for millions upon millions, Slade just wants 2 players, so I say back him or sack him, Simple

Would you sell marshal to fund a few players coming in ?

No I would not if its only for a couple of mill,as for me Marshall is our backbone and I am not yet convinced by Simon Moore, we don't need to spend millions
If we can get £5mill upfront for Marshall then I would then say yes.

I would not sell Marshall for any price for many reasons

Hmmm?
Will shall see
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With the parachute payments dwindling, so the ability to spend big in this division lessens.
Teams that invest are normally the ones that progress, time is of the essence in that respect.
Whilst we can Hope for a quick return to the Prem, can any of us honestly see it? I cannot.
Tan has no reason to dismiss Slade purely becuase as you have all said Slade has done everything asked of him.
14 players purchased one plays regularly, would you allow that man to spend big in this division?
I wouldn't.

Unsure what Tans plans are, only time will tell.

He hasn't made anywhere near 14 permanent signings.

Did I state permanent? No I didn't I stated "14 players purchased"

I believed it was, if it's not then it's not far off, and how many are regularly played?

With the parachute payments dwindling, so the ability to spend big in this division lessens.
Teams that invest are normally the ones that progress, time is of the essence in that respect.
Whilst we can Hope for a quick return to the Prem, can any of us honestly see it? I cannot.
Tan has no reason to dismiss Slade purely becuase as you have all said Slade has done everything asked of him.
14 players purchased one plays regularly, would you allow that man to spend big in this division?
I wouldn't.

Unsure what Tans plans are, only time will tell.

He hasn't made anywhere near 14 permanent signings.

Did I state permanent? No I didn't I stated "14 players purchased"

I believed it was, if it's not then it's not far off, and how many are regularly played?

You don't purchase a loan player you loan them. Purchase indicates permanence.

Malone and Peltier are regularly played. O'Keefe and Kennedy are on the fringes of the squad and Doyle has stupidly been loaned out for some reason. Saadi we have to wait and see. Loan signing Ameobi (not purchased) is a regular in the squad. The rest were signed as players for the future. Unlike Acorn these were signed cheaply so low risk.

With the parachute payments dwindling, so the ability to spend big in this division lessens.
Teams that invest are normally the ones that progress, time is of the essence in that respect.
Whilst we can Hope for a quick return to the Prem, can any of us honestly see it? I cannot.
Tan has no reason to dismiss Slade purely becuase as you have all said Slade has done everything asked of him.
14 players purchased one plays regularly, would you allow that man to spend big in this division?
I wouldn't.

Unsure what Tans plans are, only time will tell.

He hasn't made anywhere near 14 permanent signings.

Did I state permanent? No I didn't I stated "14 players purchased"

I believed it was, if it's not then it's not far off, and how many are regularly played?

You don't purchase a loan player you loan them. Purchase indicates permanence.

Malone and Peltier are regularly played. O'Keefe and Kennedy are on the fringes of the squad and Doyle has stupidly been loaned out for some reason. Saadi we have to wait and see. Loan signing Ameobi (not purchased) is a regular in the squad. The rest were signed as players for the future. Unlike Acorn these were signed cheaply so low risk.

Why bring Acorn into this? Referring to him is irrelevant

With the parachute payments dwindling, so the ability to spend big in this division lessens.
Teams that invest are normally the ones that progress, time is of the essence in that respect.
Whilst we can Hope for a quick return to the Prem, can any of us honestly see it? I cannot.
Tan has no reason to dismiss Slade purely becuase as you have all said Slade has done everything asked of him.
14 players purchased one plays regularly, would you allow that man to spend big in this division?
I wouldn't.

Unsure what Tans plans are, only time will tell.

He hasn't made anywhere near 14 permanent signings.

Did I state permanent? No I didn't I stated "14 players purchased"

I believed it was, if it's not then it's not far off, and how many are regularly played?

You don't purchase a loan player you loan them. Purchase indicates permanence.

Malone and Peltier are regularly played. O'Keefe and Kennedy are on the fringes of the squad and Doyle has stupidly been loaned out for some reason. Saadi we have to wait and see. Loan signing Ameobi (not purchased) is a regular in the squad. The rest were signed as players for the future. Unlike Acorn these were signed cheaply so low risk.

Why bring Acorn into this? Referring to him is irrelevant

Yes it is relevant. Slade is getting criticism for buying players who aren't regulars. I am pointing out that other managers have done it including the manager regarded by Annis as our best in the last 50 years.