Anyone think killing those ISIS lads was wrong?

Just read comments by malpasbluebird. Honestly say that is the biggest a load of crap I think I've ever read on this forum.

What the Cardiff lads who went to ISIS?

Yes Ian. Already inundated with lawyers looking to take their case I bet.

Just reading up on it.

Cannot say I rejoice over their deaths just feel it is a shame it had to come to this. My issue is why are these type of lads lead down this rotten path. Sort that out and we would not have this problem.

There religion took them down that path.

No a misinterpretation of it did, bad apples amongst them.

Majority of Muslims are peaceful (abiet a little confused) people, there's just some horrible cunts amongst them.

There religion took them down that path.

Not disputing this Nukes but why was their religion allowed to take them down this path? In my opinion, some are just evil like the hate preachers on our streets and these people are the ones praying on younger Muslims in difficult times and telling them there is a better alternative. I cant say I'm surprised by the current trends of rising inequality and other problems. A lot of these youngsters are university educated. There is something that has led to their disillusion with staying on the right path and in my opinion it is (a) the way the west has become in some ways and (b) hate preachers taking advantage of them.

The worst thing the UK did was let these hate preachers stay in the country spouting their nonsense and allowing youngsters turn to these people in a time of need, only to be brainwashed into believing a Jihadist life is a better alternative. If you watch some of the videos online you can see that some of these people are talking as if they're in a trance and often talking a load of rubbish which further illustrates their delusion.

There is a rise in the UK of all youngsters joining extremist groups and thats because of society as a whole. Younger whites are becoming disillusioned with the way things are and are joining the EDL and BF. Young black lads in London are joining more gangs and seeking community and a sense of belonging there, only to be exploited by gang leaders who just want to use them to push drugs and take the fall if they get caught. In this instance, the problem is that hate preachers have been given a platform in France and the UK, due to liberal loonies, to take advantage of young Muslims when they should have been kicked out or put in prison years ago. Instead they've been radicalising all over the UK, something which should not be tolerated.

The disillusion with the west in my opinion comes from entitlement. A lot of these kids are spoilt, are told they can be whatever they want to be, have had their cake and now they want to eat it. They go to university and think they will walk into a top job earning amazing money but when the reality sinks in of what life is really like these people then lash out and look for answers elsewhere. Suddenly they believe the life they 'expected' isn't as it seems and now they want to seek an alternative. This is when group leaders, hate preachers and gang leaders swoop in. Its easier to convince someone disillusioned with life to do as you wish.

Personally, I think the root to cutting out a lot of these ills is to put a stop to this materialistic society we live in, teach kids to be thankful for what they have (a lot of good parents already do this) and to ensure children grow up grounded and have a realistic outlook of the world and its troubles. Notice how so many of these Jihadists are coming from the RICHER Western European nations and that is why I believe it stems from entitlement and materialism. In the poorer Central and Eastern European nations in a lot of parts this culture of entitlement and always getting their own way hasn't crept in much, yet some of these countries have a higher proportion of Muslims in regard to the population overall than the UK. Islamic State are doing a good job at luring westerners because of all the ills and breakdowns in western society, in terms of entitlement, social cohesion and other issues.

Of course, the people who join and go and do these things are obviously to blame for their own actions but it is overly simplistic to just blame religion. If thats the case, then why aren't of loads of Bulgarian Muslims, of which there are lots (roughly 1.5 million), not going to join them? Why aren't Muslims in Poland going to join them? The root cause in my opinion is that these teenagers and young adults are sick of the unequal capitalist societies further west and are looking to find a cause, belonging, meaning and true purpose in their life. Unfortunately, at this point, vile hateful educated preachers who know fully what they're doing, pray on these vulnerable youngsters to carry out their ideological aims whilst they sit in their nice home away from it all. The hate preachers are the problem and they're vermin manipulative cowards.

Despite the piss takes i've always thought you were an intelligent fella. This post proves me right. Absolutely top post.

Who the f**k do you think you are ? If it wasn't for our brave troops over the years you wouldn't have a chance to talk so much nonsense.

Maybe through your eyes the British army is low down in your estimations but you should be f*cking greatful that they stood up to the likes of Hitler were I bet you would have turned a blind eye

did you read my post you f*cking retard. i have NOTHING against the brave soldiers. BUT i feel sorry for those that have been lead to fight for things that we shouldnt be fighting for. I feel SORRY for them.

but right now they are not fighting for my freedom, because of the unscrupulous leaders they are representing someone elses interests.

now i know you were a ukip canditate and therefore have the IQ of warm butter.....but do you understand now that my poinw ISNT AGAINST THE ARMY...BUT THE GOVERNMENTS THAT SEND THEM TO WAR????

It really f**ks me off my farther and grandfather as well as others fought to give all these do-gooders a free country with out living in fear ,and you all come out the woodwork to support these scum if you don't like the UK f**ck off somewhere else ,the Muslim community of Cardiff was just on the radio saying they want an explanation of what has occurred ,its simple he was a traitor to the UK and got what he deserved ,don't like it don't live here simple,but they want the penny and the bun live in a free society but stick the knife in when it suits them .

if any of your family faught in WWII then they fought for people who were persecuted because of their religion (amoing other things)

if i were them i'd be disgusted in you, you're talking like their enemies, making scapegoats of a whole religion.

and btw the muslim community in cardiff numbers in the tens of thousands...were they ALL on the radio? or just a few that were selected to get idiots like you all riled up?

seriously....shit like this is how religious genocide happens, how one side during WWII advocated religious genocide....can you remember which one?

Just read comments by malpasbluebird. Honestly say that is the biggest a load of crap I think I've ever read on this forum.

care to explain why?

i just expressed that:
-not all muslims are terrorists (if 1/6 of the global population were terrorists then you'd know about it)
- i feel that members of the british army have been duped in to thinking they are fighting for noble causes when they are actually protecting private interests...which anyone can tell you is out of their remit.
- - subsiquent to this i feel there is a parralel to be drawn with those who have been brainwashed by clerics etc in muslim communities (or do you think that the 30k+ isis members all seriously believe everything they preach???? cos that truly would be the dumbest thing i've ever read on here if you think that)

Just read comments by malpasbluebird. Honestly say that is the biggest a load of crap I think I've ever read on this forum.

care to explain why?

i just expressed that:
-not all muslims are terrorists (if 1/6 of the global population were terrorists then you'd know about it)
- i feel that members of the british army have been duped in to thinking they are fighting for noble causes when they are actually protecting private interests...which anyone can tell you is out of their remit.
- - subsiquent to this i feel there is a parralel to be drawn with those who have been brainwashed by clerics etc in muslim communities (or do you think that the 30k+ isis members all seriously believe everything they preach???? cos that truly would be the dumbest thing i've ever read on here if you think that)

Contrary to what you may think, members of the army are not thick, and are not duped or brainwashed as suggested, they are more than capable of thinking for themselves. Many recruits are highly educated, and I have a relative who has recently joined the marines having studied for four years at university and passing with honours as well as having a string of A stars when he did his A levels prior to going to university.

Just read comments by malpasbluebird. Honestly say that is the biggest a load of crap I think I've ever read on this forum.

care to explain why?

i just expressed that:
-not all muslims are terrorists (if 1/6 of the global population were terrorists then you'd know about it)
- i feel that members of the british army have been duped in to thinking they are fighting for noble causes when they are actually protecting private interests...which anyone can tell you is out of their remit.
- - subsiquent to this i feel there is a parralel to be drawn with those who have been brainwashed by clerics etc in muslim communities (or do you think that the 30k+ isis members all seriously believe everything they preach???? cos that truly would be the dumbest thing i've ever read on here if you think that)

Contrary to what you may think, members of the army are not thick, and are not duped or brainwashed as suggested, they are more than capable of thinking for themselves. Many recruits are highly educated, and I have a relative who has recently joined the marines having studied for four years at university and passing with honours as well as having a string of A stars when he did his A levels prior to going to university.

Not being funny but that's a massive waste. If he's that bright he should be doing some top class civillian work, not risking his life in some warzone.

Poor guys.

They've been brainwashed.
Instructed to fight under a false pretense
Had their superious dehumanise the enemy to the point that they are seen as vermin and animals
then put straight in the firing line to be blown up

sounds a lot like the british army IMO

How dare you compare those scum to the British Army.
Our army does the exact opposite. It respects and is educated to protect innocent people.
These Muslims target the innocent and defenceless as they are cowards.
They use their religion (which is itself backward, stone age, hateful, non accepting of other beliefs/cultures) to carry out crimes. The people who are part of it are losers who would never achieve anything in their lives, and therefore are attracted to something that makes them feel important and allows them to carry out evil crimes. With the full support of the Muslim religion/community.

I'm not speaking negatively of the British Army (i think its illegal isnt it? thats what you'd guess reading this board).

but they are simply pawns in a larger organisation that will send them do do their bidding under whatever pretense fits the narative.

To suggest anything else is to suggest the army make their own decisions, they dont. It's simple.

But saying "hey kids, protect out oil interests overseas" is a tough sell. So the army recruiters do what they have always done; target the dullest 40% of kids in schools and say "hey, you wont be up to much academically, so why not join the army?" ...training, skills, be the best yada yada yada.

now before i get attacked for that i just wanna say: soldiers arent dull by any means, im saying thats who army recruitment is AIMED AT. because the last thing a government in this day and age needs is an army that thinks for itself...there'd be a coup within months.

therefore i feel sorry for those who have been indoctrinated in to the thinking that the work the army is sent to do is some how noble....there's nothing noble about killing 1 million iraqi civillians for example.

many will take this the wrong way...but i think the soldiers are brave and noble people fighting for something they believe is right. But in actual fact are being lead astray by the powers that be....not exactly a million miles away from some of the people involved with ISIS in my opinion....

How old are you?..................with comments like that you would fit into the 40% that you believe the army target!!

Many of my friends have been killed/injured defending this country and to compare them to ISIS is an insult.

I won't insult you on this forum as I believe your comments are a big enough statement of hat type of person you are

Perhaps he should go into a bar full of soldiers and let them no exactly how "dull" and "brainwashed" he thinks they are, im sure they'd offer him a sit down and a nice chat about the fundamental laws of quantum physics or something

Just read comments by malpasbluebird. Honestly say that is the biggest a load of crap I think I've ever read on this forum.

care to explain why?

i just expressed that:
-not all muslims are terrorists (if 1/6 of the global population were terrorists then you'd know about it)
- i feel that members of the british army have been duped in to thinking they are fighting for noble causes when they are actually protecting private interests...which anyone can tell you is out of their remit.
- - subsiquent to this i feel there is a parralel to be drawn with those who have been brainwashed by clerics etc in muslim communities (or do you think that the 30k+ isis members all seriously believe everything they preach???? cos that truly would be the dumbest thing i've ever read on here if you think that)

Contrary to what you may think, members of the army are not thick, and are not duped or brainwashed as suggested, they are more than capable of thinking for themselves. Many recruits are highly educated, and I have a relative who has recently joined the marines having studied for four years at university and passing with honours as well as having a string of A stars when he did his A levels prior to going to university.

Could you get him to teach you to read? Because in my post I explicitly said that soldiers are by no means dull individuals end masse. But it's no secret that the army offer employment to those who may struggle to find it elsewhere (it's the basis of nearly all of their marketing campaigns)

Perhaps he should go into a bar full of soldiers and let them no exactly how "dull" and "brainwashed" he thinks they are, im sure they'd offer him a sit down and a nice chat about the fundamental laws of quantum physics or something

My specialty is military history so I would welcome the lesson!

But seriously. Do you think that every war we've been involved in is justified? Furthermore do you think that soldiers have a choice in where they are deployed and to what end?

I can't stress enough the respect I have for soldiers...but you'd have to read my posts properly to know that I guess =/

Just read comments by malpasbluebird. Honestly say that is the biggest a load of crap I think I've ever read on this forum.

care to explain why?

i just expressed that:
-not all muslims are terrorists (if 1/6 of the global population were terrorists then you'd know about it)
- i feel that members of the british army have been duped in to thinking they are fighting for noble causes when they are actually protecting private interests...which anyone can tell you is out of their remit.
- - subsiquent to this i feel there is a parralel to be drawn with those who have been brainwashed by clerics etc in muslim communities (or do you think that the 30k+ isis members all seriously believe everything they preach???? cos that truly would be the dumbest thing i've ever read on here if you think that)

Contrary to what you may think, members of the army are not thick, and are not duped or brainwashed as suggested, they are more than capable of thinking for themselves. Many recruits are highly educated, and I have a relative who has recently joined the marines having studied for four years at university and passing with honours as well as having a string of A stars when he did his A levels prior to going to university.

Not being funny but that's a massive waste. If he's that bright he should be doing some top class civillian work, not risking his life in some warzone.

He has only just been accepted. Has about 12 months training now, and then into the real thing. He knows the risks, but he is an outdoor fit person, with a sense of adventure. He had to pass a lot of tests to be accepted, and will go in as an officer. There are a lot of intelligent people in the army carrying out a wide range of jobs.

Just read comments by malpasbluebird. Honestly say that is the biggest a load of crap I think I've ever read on this forum.

care to explain why?

i just expressed that:
-not all muslims are terrorists (if 1/6 of the global population were terrorists then you'd know about it)
- i feel that members of the british army have been duped in to thinking they are fighting for noble causes when they are actually protecting private interests...which anyone can tell you is out of their remit.
- - subsiquent to this i feel there is a parralel to be drawn with those who have been brainwashed by clerics etc in muslim communities (or do you think that the 30k+ isis members all seriously believe everything they preach???? cos that truly would be the dumbest thing i've ever read on here if you think that)

Contrary to what you may think, members of the army are not thick, and are not duped or brainwashed as suggested, they are more than capable of thinking for themselves. Many recruits are highly educated, and I have a relative who has recently joined the marines having studied for four years at university and passing with honours as well as having a string of A stars when he did his A levels prior to going to university.

Could you get him to teach you to read? Because in my post I explicitly said that soldiers are by no means dull individuals end masse. But it's no secret that the army offer employment to those who may struggle to find it elsewhere (it's the basis of nearly all of their marketing campaigns)

Do you actually believe the rubbish you are writing - are you aware of the technical skills required to be a basic infantry soldier let alone an engineer, signaller etc.

Please enlighten me as to your IQ - if you know what that is

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Poor guys.

They've been brainwashed.
Instructed to fight under a false pretense
Had their superious dehumanise the enemy to the point that they are seen as vermin and animals
then put straight in the firing line to be blown up

sounds a lot like the british army IMO

How dare you compare those scum to the British Army.
Our army does the exact opposite. It respects and is educated to protect innocent people.
These Muslims target the innocent and defenceless as they are cowards.
They use their religion (which is itself backward, stone age, hateful, non accepting of other beliefs/cultures) to carry out crimes. The people who are part of it are losers who would never achieve anything in their lives, and therefore are attracted to something that makes them feel important and allows them to carry out evil crimes. With the full support of the Muslim religion/community.

I'm not speaking negatively of the British Army (i think its illegal isnt it? thats what you'd guess reading this board).

but they are simply pawns in a larger organisation that will send them do do their bidding under whatever pretense fits the narative.

To suggest anything else is to suggest the army make their own decisions, they dont. It's simple.

But saying "hey kids, protect out oil interests overseas" is a tough sell. So the army recruiters do what they have always done; target the dullest 40% of kids in schools and say "hey, you wont be up to much academically, so why not join the army?" ...training, skills, be the best yada yada yada.

now before i get attacked for that i just wanna say: soldiers arent dull by any means, im saying thats who army recruitment is AIMED AT. because the last thing a government in this day and age needs is an army that thinks for itself...there'd be a coup within months.

therefore i feel sorry for those who have been indoctrinated in to the thinking that the work the army is sent to do is some how noble....there's nothing noble about killing 1 million iraqi civillians for example.

many will take this the wrong way...but i think the soldiers are brave and noble people fighting for something they believe is right. But in actual fact are being lead astray by the powers that be....not exactly a million miles away from some of the people involved with ISIS in my opinion....

How old are you?..................with comments like that you would fit into the 40% that you believe the army target!!

Many of my friends have been killed/injured defending this country and to compare them to ISIS is an insult.

I won't insult you on this forum as I believe your comments are a big enough statement of hat type of person you are

So you respect them for fighting for what they believe in? But to compare them to those fighting for what they believe in is an insult? Now bare in mind that I didn't say they were THE SAME I said there are parallels to be drawn.....if you can't see that parallels can be drawn between two sets of fighters then obviously the dehumanising propaganda has worked a treat.

Queue all the idiots who interperate this post as me defending isis or disrespecting soldiers....it's neither. But that doesn't stop this mob

Poor guys.

They've been brainwashed.
Instructed to fight under a false pretense
Had their superious dehumanise the enemy to the point that they are seen as vermin and animals
then put straight in the firing line to be blown up

sounds a lot like the british army IMO

How dare you compare those scum to the British Army.
Our army does the exact opposite. It respects and is educated to protect innocent people.
These Muslims target the innocent and defenceless as they are cowards.
They use their religion (which is itself backward, stone age, hateful, non accepting of other beliefs/cultures) to carry out crimes. The people who are part of it are losers who would never achieve anything in their lives, and therefore are attracted to something that makes them feel important and allows them to carry out evil crimes. With the full support of the Muslim religion/community.

I'm not speaking negatively of the British Army (i think its illegal isnt it? thats what you'd guess reading this board).

but they are simply pawns in a larger organisation that will send them do do their bidding under whatever pretense fits the narative.

To suggest anything else is to suggest the army make their own decisions, they dont. It's simple.

But saying "hey kids, protect out oil interests overseas" is a tough sell. So the army recruiters do what they have always done; target the dullest 40% of kids in schools and say "hey, you wont be up to much academically, so why not join the army?" ...training, skills, be the best yada yada yada.

now before i get attacked for that i just wanna say: soldiers arent dull by any means, im saying thats who army recruitment is AIMED AT. because the last thing a government in this day and age needs is an army that thinks for itself...there'd be a coup within months.

therefore i feel sorry for those who have been indoctrinated in to the thinking that the work the army is sent to do is some how noble....there's nothing noble about killing 1 million iraqi civillians for example.

many will take this the wrong way...but i think the soldiers are brave and noble people fighting for something they believe is right. But in actual fact are being lead astray by the powers that be....not exactly a million miles away from some of the people involved with ISIS in my opinion....

How old are you?..................with comments like that you would fit into the 40% that you believe the army target!!

Many of my friends have been killed/injured defending this country and to compare them to ISIS is an insult.

I won't insult you on this forum as I believe your comments are a big enough statement of hat type of person you are

So you respect them for fighting for what they believe in? But to compare them to those fighting for what they believe in is an insult? Now bare in mind that I didn't say they were THE SAME I said there are parallels to be drawn.....if you can't see that parallels can be drawn between two sets of fighters then obviously the dehumanising propaganda has worked a treat.

Queue all the idiots who interperate this post as me defending isis or disrespecting soldiers....it's neither. But that doesn't stop this mob

That's exactly what you are saying, you just put the 'I'm in no way saying that our solidors are dull' to protect yourself because shortly afterwards you are describing them just as that!!
Disgraceful comments fair play

i dont support ISIS ..... its a situation we created and now needs sorting out [if it ever can be] ... i feel the world because of our interfering is now completely fucked and unfixable

Lee I agree with you. Bush, Blair, Obama, Brown, Cameron, But why ? Because of Oil ? Or just the more immigrants that come our way will vote for there party to keep them in office ? I have no idea but they have fooked up the world.
Now who are deserving of coming over ? Definitely not the Muslims let them kill each other over there. It's the Christians that are being persecuted and being massacred. In my view only the Christians should be allowed. We get the pictures that everyone goes all soppy over but don't realise that Christians are being thrown overboard on these boats.
The media show these pictures of these babies kids and whoever on the beaches and it is sad but will they show pictures of what ISIS are doing to kids and women ? Seen pictures today of three rifles pointed at the head of a two year old Christian just before they shot him. One of a father holding the headless corpse of a little girl because she was a Christian. And one of a naked Christian woman with her throat being cut and they were catching her blood in a bucket. Why do the press not show this ? Are they frightened people would see what is really happening.
Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, were and are evil bastards but they were evil bastards that kept there savages under control and now no one is keeping them under control thanks to the West.

do you really need telling in this day and age that not all muslims are terrorists???

but then if i recall you have some pretty backwards ideas on relion and immigration (sorry if im thinking of someone else, i rarely come on this board any more)

oh and by the way:
THERE
THEIR
THEY'RE

^i bet you're the first to complain when people don't learn the language. do yourself a favour and learn it yourself

So you're comeback to what I said is a spelling lesson ? Well when you can argue please come back. But in today's era not every Muslim is a terrorist but every terrorist is a Muslim. Anyhow my Grammer has never been much good but I get by very well in life. And this is me being very polite because I just want to call you anTwat but I won't

Poor guys.

They've been brainwashed.
Instructed to fight under a false pretense
Had their superious dehumanise the enemy to the point that they are seen as vermin and animals
then put straight in the firing line to be blown up

sounds a lot like the british army IMO

How dare you compare those scum to the British Army.
Our army does the exact opposite. It respects and is educated to protect innocent people.
These Muslims target the innocent and defenceless as they are cowards.
They use their religion (which is itself backward, stone age, hateful, non accepting of other beliefs/cultures) to carry out crimes. The people who are part of it are losers who would never achieve anything in their lives, and therefore are attracted to something that makes them feel important and allows them to carry out evil crimes. With the full support of the Muslim religion/community.

I'm not speaking negatively of the British Army (i think its illegal isnt it? thats what you'd guess reading this board).

but they are simply pawns in a larger organisation that will send them do do their bidding under whatever pretense fits the narative.

To suggest anything else is to suggest the army make their own decisions, they dont. It's simple.

But saying "hey kids, protect out oil interests overseas" is a tough sell. So the army recruiters do what they have always done; target the dullest 40% of kids in schools and say "hey, you wont be up to much academically, so why not join the army?" ...training, skills, be the best yada yada yada.

now before i get attacked for that i just wanna say: soldiers arent dull by any means, im saying thats who army recruitment is AIMED AT. because the last thing a government in this day and age needs is an army that thinks for itself...there'd be a coup within months.

therefore i feel sorry for those who have been indoctrinated in to the thinking that the work the army is sent to do is some how noble....there's nothing noble about killing 1 million iraqi civillians for example.

many will take this the wrong way...but i think the soldiers are brave and noble people fighting for something they believe is right. But in actual fact are being lead astray by the powers that be....not exactly a million miles away from some of the people involved with ISIS in my opinion....

How old are you?..................with comments like that you would fit into the 40% that you believe the army target!!

Many of my friends have been killed/injured defending this country and to compare them to ISIS is an insult.

I won't insult you on this forum as I believe your comments are a big enough statement of hat type of person you are

So you respect them for fighting for what they believe in? But to compare them to those fighting for what they believe in is an insult? Now bare in mind that I didn't say they were THE SAME I said there are parallels to be drawn.....if you can't see that parallels can be drawn between two sets of fighters then obviously the dehumanising propaganda has worked a treat.

Queue all the idiots who interperate this post as me defending isis or disrespecting soldiers....it's neither. But that doesn't stop this mob

That's exactly what you are saying, you just put the 'I'm in no way saying that our solidors are dull' to protect yourself because shortly afterwards you are describing them just as that!!
Disgraceful comments fair play

No. Maybe an idiot can't see the difference between a critical observation and calling someone dull. But that's not the case

But just be be clear:
Army - not necessarily dull (obviously some are but I don't generalise )
Adam Brown - Thicker then especially thick shit

Perhaps he should go into a bar full of soldiers and let them no exactly how "dull" and "brainwashed" he thinks they are, im sure they'd offer him a sit down and a nice chat about the fundamental laws of quantum physics or something

My specialty is military history so I would welcome the lesson!

But seriously. Do you think that every war we've been involved in is justified? Furthermore do you think that soldiers have a choice in where they are deployed and to what end?

I can't stress enough the respect I have for soldiers...but you'd have to read my posts properly to know that I guess =/

Do you honestly believe that our soldiers are brainwashed and don't no exactly what these wars they are fighting in are really all about? You know they do have access to the outside world just like you or I. Infact I'm willing to bet they have a better idea about what's really going on than you or I do, due to the fact they are actually out there in the middle of it

i dont support ISIS ..... its a situation we created and now needs sorting out [if it ever can be] ... i feel the world because of our interfering is now completely fucked and unfixable

Lee I agree with you. Bush, Blair, Obama, Brown, Cameron, But why ? Because of Oil ? Or just the more immigrants that come our way will vote for there party to keep them in office ? I have no idea but they have fooked up the world.
Now who are deserving of coming over ? Definitely not the Muslims let them kill each other over there. It's the Christians that are being persecuted and being massacred. In my view only the Christians should be allowed. We get the pictures that everyone goes all soppy over but don't realise that Christians are being thrown overboard on these boats.
The media show these pictures of these babies kids and whoever on the beaches and it is sad but will they show pictures of what ISIS are doing to kids and women ? Seen pictures today of three rifles pointed at the head of a two year old Christian just before they shot him. One of a father holding the headless corpse of a little girl because she was a Christian. And one of a naked Christian woman with her throat being cut and they were catching her blood in a bucket. Why do the press not show this ? Are they frightened people would see what is really happening.
Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, were and are evil bastards but they were evil bastards that kept there savages under control and now no one is keeping them under control thanks to the West.

do you really need telling in this day and age that not all muslims are terrorists???

but then if i recall you have some pretty backwards ideas on relion and immigration (sorry if im thinking of someone else, i rarely come on this board any more)

oh and by the way:
THERE
THEIR
THEY'RE

^i bet you're the first to complain when people don't learn the language. do yourself a favour and learn it yourself

So you're comeback to what I said is a spelling lesson ? Well when you can argue please come back. But in today's era not every Muslim is a terrorist but every terrorist is a Muslim. Anyhow my Grammer has never been much good but I get by very well in life. And this is me being very polite because I just want to call you anTwat but I won't

You can call me antwat all you want. I have no idea what it means.

Every terrorist is a Muslim?????? Nukes read a f*cking book please!!! The idiocy is making my head hurt

What the Cardiff lads who went to ISIS?

Yes Ian. Already inundated with lawyers looking to take their case I bet.

Just reading up on it.

Cannot say I rejoice over their deaths just feel it is a shame it had to come to this. My issue is why are these type of lads lead down this rotten path. Sort that out and we would not have this problem.

There religion took them down that path.

No a misinterpretation of it did, bad apples amongst them.

Majority of Muslims are peaceful (abiet a little confused) people, there's just some horrible cunts amongst them.

I would say in this Country you are indeed correct but many more moderates are indeed very much agree with a lot of Sharia law. Saw one video of a elder addressing a moderate audience and they all agreed to a man on the right and women to the left that on autopsy and homosexuality they agree with Sharia.
Now in the Middle East those that hold these warped views of Islam are very much in the majority by far. Even Saudi who are our so called allies hold extreme views and laws. So as a whole around the world the vast majority are extreme and it's getting bigger by the day and that goes for the UK as well.

i dont support ISIS ..... its a situation we created and now needs sorting out [if it ever can be] ... i feel the world because of our interfering is now completely fucked and unfixable

Lee I agree with you. Bush, Blair, Obama, Brown, Cameron, But why ? Because of Oil ? Or just the more immigrants that come our way will vote for there party to keep them in office ? I have no idea but they have fooked up the world.
Now who are deserving of coming over ? Definitely not the Muslims let them kill each other over there. It's the Christians that are being persecuted and being massacred. In my view only the Christians should be allowed. We get the pictures that everyone goes all soppy over but don't realise that Christians are being thrown overboard on these boats.
The media show these pictures of these babies kids and whoever on the beaches and it is sad but will they show pictures of what ISIS are doing to kids and women ? Seen pictures today of three rifles pointed at the head of a two year old Christian just before they shot him. One of a father holding the headless corpse of a little girl because she was a Christian. And one of a naked Christian woman with her throat being cut and they were catching her blood in a bucket. Why do the press not show this ? Are they frightened people would see what is really happening.
Saddam, Gaddafi, Assad, were and are evil bastards but they were evil bastards that kept there savages under control and now no one is keeping them under control thanks to the West.

do you really need telling in this day and age that not all muslims are terrorists???

but then if i recall you have some pretty backwards ideas on relion and immigration (sorry if im thinking of someone else, i rarely come on this board any more)

oh and by the way:
THERE
THEIR
THEY'RE

^i bet you're the first to complain when people don't learn the language. do yourself a favour and learn it yourself

So you're comeback to what I said is a spelling lesson ? Well when you can argue please come back. But in today's era not every Muslim is a terrorist but every terrorist is a Muslim. Anyhow my Grammer has never been much good but I get by very well in life. And this is me being very polite because I just want to call you anTwat but I won't

You can call me antwat all you want. I have no idea what it means.

Every terrorist is a Muslim?????? Nukes read a f*cking book please!!! The idiocy is making my head hurt

Antwat ??? And you go on about my spelling and Grammer. Like me get a fooking dictionary

I would put free planes on from airports around the country for jihadists to go back, on a few conditions. There photo and statistics are taken, fingerprints as well. They also relinquish their passports and understand that if they attempt to harm anyone in this country they are an enemy of the state and will be removed like the chuckle brothers from Cardiff will be next. They are like farts, better out than in.

Oops just seen I put anTwat first own goal Nukes

Be aware these pictures will be disturbing but they need to be shown. Christians are the main casualties in Syria.
http://www.catholic.org/news/internatio ... p?id=56481

Poor guys.

They've been brainwashed.
Instructed to fight under a false pretense
Had their superious dehumanise the enemy to the point that they are seen as vermin and animals
then put straight in the firing line to be blown up

sounds a lot like the british army IMO

How dare you compare those scum to the British Army.
Our army does the exact opposite. It respects and is educated to protect innocent people.
These Muslims target the innocent and defenceless as they are cowards.
They use their religion (which is itself backward, stone age, hateful, non accepting of other beliefs/cultures) to carry out crimes. The people who are part of it are losers who would never achieve anything in their lives, and therefore are attracted to something that makes them feel important and allows them to carry out evil crimes. With the full support of the Muslim religion/community.

I'm not speaking negatively of the British Army (i think its illegal isnt it? thats what you'd guess reading this board).

but they are simply pawns in a larger organisation that will send them do do their bidding under whatever pretense fits the narative.

To suggest anything else is to suggest the army make their own decisions, they dont. It's simple.

But saying "hey kids, protect out oil interests overseas" is a tough sell. So the army recruiters do what they have always done; target the dullest 40% of kids in schools and say "hey, you wont be up to much academically, so why not join the army?" ...training, skills, be the best yada yada yada.

now before i get attacked for that i just wanna say: soldiers arent dull by any means, im saying thats who army recruitment is AIMED AT. because the last thing a government in this day and age needs is an army that thinks for itself...there'd be a coup within months.

therefore i feel sorry for those who have been indoctrinated in to the thinking that the work the army is sent to do is some how noble....there's nothing noble about killing 1 million iraqi civillians for example.

many will take this the wrong way...but i think the soldiers are brave and noble people fighting for something they believe is right. But in actual fact are being lead astray by the powers that be....not exactly a million miles away from some of the people involved with ISIS in my opinion....

have you served ? ,imo It's tossers like you who'd bitch and moan the loudest if ever you yours ever needed defending .You have a simplistic view on life, try experiencing a bit of it before spouting more bollocks .By the why, the RAF did the dirty deed

So he abuses everyone who doesn't agree with him!! If that isn't facist I don't know what is!!! This guy is proof that the really facials are the lefty fuckwits how can't take an opposing viewpoint!!

Poor guys.

They've been brainwashed.
Instructed to fight under a false pretense
Had their superious dehumanise the enemy to the point that they are seen as vermin and animals
then put straight in the firing line to be blown up

sounds a lot like the british army IMO

How dare you compare those scum to the British Army.
Our army does the exact opposite. It respects and is educated to protect innocent people.
These Muslims target the innocent and defenceless as they are cowards.
They use their religion (which is itself backward, stone age, hateful, non accepting of other beliefs/cultures) to carry out crimes. The people who are part of it are losers who would never achieve anything in their lives, and therefore are attracted to something that makes them feel important and allows them to carry out evil crimes. With the full support of the Muslim religion/community.

I'm not speaking negatively of the British Army (i think its illegal isnt it? thats what you'd guess reading this board).

but they are simply pawns in a larger organisation that will send them do do their bidding under whatever pretense fits the narative.

To suggest anything else is to suggest the army make their own decisions, they dont. It's simple.

But saying "hey kids, protect out oil interests overseas" is a tough sell. So the army recruiters do what they have always done; target the dullest 40% of kids in schools and say "hey, you wont be up to much academically, so why not join the army?" ...training, skills, be the best yada yada yada.

now before i get attacked for that i just wanna say: soldiers arent dull by any means, im saying thats who army recruitment is AIMED AT. because the last thing a government in this day and age needs is an army that thinks for itself...there'd be a coup within months.

therefore i feel sorry for those who have been indoctrinated in to the thinking that the work the army is sent to do is some how noble....there's nothing noble about killing 1 million iraqi civillians for example.

many will take this the wrong way...but i think the soldiers are brave and noble people fighting for something they believe is right. But in actual fact are being lead astray by the powers that be....not exactly a million miles away from some of the people involved with ISIS in my opinion....

have you served ? ,imo It's tossers like you who'd bitch and moan the loudest if ever you yours ever needed defending .You have a simplistic view on life, try experiencing a bit of it before spouting more bollocks .By the why, the RAF did the dirty deed

More of the same please,Blow them to pieces the mongrels they are.

No, it was not wrong to off these loons.And the sooner the get the other 2 nutters the better. It angers me when these people are now demanding answers from the government to satisfy their 'community' and how their children are being failed by the UK! It's their 'communities' that should be tackling this problem and to my mind are also part of the cause, as they don't integrate. These particular 'communities' should be grateful that they are even just allowed to live in a country that is so tolerant. Talk about biting the hand that feeds. It is evident to me that our tolerance is not only taken for granted but is simply exploited by these medivel throwbacks as part of their Islamification Of The West plan. Sadly, their plan is gradually working. Get rid whilst we still can.

Be aware these pictures will be disturbing but they need to be shown. Christians are the main casualties in Syria.
http://www.catholic.org/news/internatio ... p?id=56481

Shocking pics there