James McClean,thoughts?

I am extremely proud of my Grandfather. I am also extremely proud of my 6 year old son, do you think I should give his name out over the internet to a troll too? No,I don't think so.

You are stating I have made up the stories simply because it doesn't fit in with your agenda or more accurately, the hole you dug yourself with a spade called hypocrisy and a shovel called fascism. THE FACT is, there are hundreds and probably thousands of stories and accounts EXACTLY the same as my Grandfathers, so whether you believe my specific situation makes no difference what so ever. Unless of course you think everybody is lying just to make you look a bellend? Although I wouldn't put that past your train of thought after this exchange.

Read - educate - speak. In that order.

The ONLY fact here is that you refuse to give your grandfathers name to do a check on the military records about your claim. Your stories and lies have zero credibility and all your comments have just been a clear Barnett attempt to wind people up on here. f*cking disgraceful in my book and you should be banned for making up so disgraceful stories

Absolutely it is a fact that I wont give my families names out on an internet message board to an apparent loon. You have no basis to your accusations what so ever, apart from deflecting the fact you are wrong in every way and have been found out by historical fact. I wont even mention your repeated ridiculous confusions... Sushi ffs.

But thats not the only fact now is it. The other facts are you are completely missing the point that my Grandfathers stories are just one of THOUSANDS. So instead of hounding and trolling my family (a banning offence) why not google other identical accounts? To see if they are true.... Or would that end your argument dead? Yes it would wouldn't it.

Now then, do you remember professor Sir Patrick Moore? Used to be on the telly a lot and quite a respected chap indeed. Well he gave a famous interview not so long ago now stating how he " still hates the Germans" and "the only good Kraut is a dead Kraut". This was due to a german bomb killing his then girlfriend. Do you think he would respect the german anthem because it is a different tune?

Or is he another lying just to make you look like a bellend? Maybe we can get him stripped of his knigthood for such tom foolery.

You are a lying piece of scum and yes there is a difference between a 92 year old ex-military man and a young child because as an ex-military man his details would already be public knowledge!!

Que WiltshireBlue going through public military records trying to find a name of a living 92 year old!!

f*cking lying scum

You are a lying piece of scum and yes there is a difference between a 92 year old ex-military man and a young child because as an ex-military man his details would already be public knowledge!!

Que WiltshireBlue going through public military records trying to find a name of a living 92 year old!!

f*cking lying scum

No there is not one piece of difference between wanting the name of my 6 year old son over the internet and my Grandfather. Firstly nobody in their right mind would give over the names of their vulnerable family members to trolls demanding them on the internet and secondly a quick google search will show plenty of other identical cases proving my exact point without having to hand over my Grandfathers details to someone clearly unhinged,

You are clearly getting angry because you have lost a debate where you took a very silly stance and have tried your best to stand by it, regardless of how stupid it is continuing to make you look. And I'm sure you have realised that now. You have no right to call me such vile names, i have shared a story about my Grandfather, someone you are showing great disrespect to, who fought for the likes of you. You don't know me, you don't know my family, you have no basis for these trolling accusations - you have also been told that my Grandfather is one of THOUSANDS that state similar stories and experiences.

So whether you wish to believe specifically my Grandfather, or indeed the numerous veterans who share their EXACT (key word there) stories over the inter-web - you are wrong either way, which amazingly you haven't quite realised yet. All the while you have decided to foam at the mouth, in a fit of rage after showing yourself up to be an uneducated bellwhiff.... Sushi ffs.

Next time just say "oh yeah i hadnt thought of it like that, fair enough". You may earn a bit more respect that way.

More stories than Jeffrey Archer!!!

More stories than Jeffrey Archer!!!

And you have more panicky defensive manoeuvres than an Italian tank. You are wrong, come to terms with it.

You are the first person who isn't proud of the service record of your Grandfather. Disgraceful

You are the first person who isn't proud of the service record of your Grandfather. Disgraceful

Where have I said I am not proud of him? You seem to be fibbing there, thats disgraceful when talking about an elderly serviceman who fought for you to be able air such vile views remember.

What I said was:- "I wont give out the information of my family to an apparent loon over the internet". Quite a different thing even the most uneducated fascists amongst us will surely agree on, and quite a standard reply when faced with an unbalanced, incoherent and angry individual demanding names of your family members over the internet.

As you have been told, you don't need the accounts of my Grandfather to show you are wrong (which is the point remember). Just use your friend google and it will show many counts of ex servicemen who hold a grudge or harbour a strong dislike for a country which has carried out atrocities close to their heart. I already gave you an example of Sir Patrick Moore - or did you decide to ignore that one too?

Pesky Patrick Moore and his lies to make you look a twerp hey?

'Britishness' as an identity is dying, as witnessed by the over the top reactions on here.

Why would anyone show respect to a Queen who does Nazi salutes?

It is time Brussels took all power away from Westminster.

You are the first person who isn't proud of the service record of your Grandfather. Disgraceful

Where have I said I am not proud of him? You seem to be fibbing there, thats disgraceful when talking about an elderly serviceman who fought for you to be able air such vile views remember.

What I said was:- "I wont give out the information of my family to an apparent loon over the internet". Quite a different thing even the most uneducated fascists amongst us will surely agree on, and quite a standard reply when faced with an unbalanced, incoherent and angry individual demanding names of your family members over the internet.

As you have been told, you don't need the accounts of my Grandfather to show you are wrong (which is the point remember). Just use your friend google and it will show many counts of ex servicemen who hold a grudge or harbour a strong dislike for a country which has carried out atrocities close to their heart. I already gave you an example of Sir Patrick Moore - or did you decide to ignore that one too?

Pesky Patrick Moore and his lies to make you look a twerp hey?

Your facts as a strong as someone signing 'my old mans a dustman!!!' f**k off Barnett you are a joke

You are the first person who isn't proud of the service record of your Grandfather. Disgraceful

Where have I said I am not proud of him? You seem to be fibbing there, thats disgraceful when talking about an elderly serviceman who fought for you to be able air such vile views remember.

What I said was:- "I wont give out the information of my family to an apparent loon over the internet". Quite a different thing even the most uneducated fascists amongst us will surely agree on, and quite a standard reply when faced with an unbalanced, incoherent and angry individual demanding names of your family members over the internet.

As you have been told, you don't need the accounts of my Grandfather to show you are wrong (which is the point remember). Just use your friend google and it will show many counts of ex servicemen who hold a grudge or harbour a strong dislike for a country which has carried out atrocities close to their heart. I already gave you an example of Sir Patrick Moore - or did you decide to ignore that one too?

Pesky Patrick Moore and his lies to make you look a twerp hey?

Your facts as a strong as someone signing 'my old mans a dustman!!!' f**k off Barnett you are a joke

So you think Patrick Moore and all the other veterans are lying then? And that PTSD (google it) is a condition everybody made up and was one long joke that has been rumbling along for the last 100 years all building up to this moment, which is to make you look silly.

You sound completely sane play. (Sarcasm).

No building up a story about two people you claim to know is a joke. You went all defensive when I asked for their names so that I an check them out on their military records. f*cking scum of the earth making up veteran stories to strengthen your argument. Got Barnett written all over your posts

No building up a story about two people you claim to know is a joke. You went all defensive when I asked for their names so that I an check them out on their military records. f*cking scum of the earth making up veteran stories to strengthen your argument. Got Barnett written all over your posts

You have absolutely no idea about my family so cant comment on whether it is true or not. You can disrespectfully and distastefully speculate which is your right, but it holds no weight what so ever of course - as you know no party involved oersonally or figurativelly. Refusing to give out my family members names to a loon is not defensive, its normal practice as explained.

So again, are you suggesting that the thousands of veterans are lying to make you look stupid on the internet? And are you suggesting also that PTSD is a made up disorder where millions of people are in on the joke to make you look an imbecile? Thats pretty disgusting, and incredibly scarily imbalanced.

So you are either bordering on paranoid schizophrenia or you admit that you are wrong, and indeed people DO continue to hold grudges against countries that have carried out atricities in the past rendering your point weaker than a Peter Whittingham tackle. Which one is it to be?

Barnett making up stories about war vetarans #sick

Barnett making up stories about war vetarans #sick

So you finally admit that, in fact, people DO harbour very strong feelings towards countries that have commited atrocities then. And you also finally admit that PTSD IS a disorder that affects people all over the world?... And of course James Maclean may indeed harbour these feelings towards the British military that massacred innocent people in his hometown. So in escence, you now agree you were wrong then?

#trollingveteransfamiliesisdeplorable

As an Irishman who has lived in England and played football when national anthems were played I always showed respect but don't think I ever looked at British flag to be honest during it. I faced the way the rest of team were facing with my head bowed. It was respectful
But it's not my anthem.

I am from the Republic of Ireland though. I live 10 minutes south of the border and have never lost any loved ones to the troubles I don't know James story for sure but hear he lost family members to unionists. If any of you lost family to republicans in the north would you respect the Irish national anthem? Or if you lost anyone on the army fighting the Taliban how respectful would you be to the afghan anthem?

As I said I respect the UK national anthem and love going over to Cardiff as I love the people and same when I lived in Essex I loved the English ppl I knew there. But I
Am not going to judge James mcclean when I don't know the full story

He's a ira supporter that's the reason he tries to make himself seen

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He's a ira supporter that's the reason he tries to make himself seen

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Spooky and just as thick

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Mclean is a coward and hypocrite. He is over here accepting British money. If he hates the British so much why is he here?
If soldiers who fought the Germans still hate Germany so much I doubt they would go and live and work in Germany.

He is just an attention seeker. Going on about attrocities committed by British soldiers against civilians, what a joke, as how does he know they were civilians? How did the soldiers know they were civilians? The cowardly Irish never wore uniforms, only civilian clothes when they were shooting soldiers/civilians in the back (or planting bombs and running away).
The IRA were gangsters lining their own pockets and hiding behind women and children, then using that as propoganda to further their aims, if so called civilains were injured.
Children "were allowed" out to play when riots were happening so they could be used as shields by the cowards.

Doing nothing wrong.