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Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:48 am

I think all he's saying is, bleuminati has got his dreadlocks in a twist over Britain being too white, and perhaps he may feel more at home in Syria or Nigeria, where the population meets his colour quota.

Also, Australia only lets skilled workers in, after stringent health and economic test, not the ability to drive a cab or cook fast food, or if you have HIV.

God Bless Malcom and Cressida........

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:47 am

Unbelievable!

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:57 am

langley wrote:Unbelievable!


What is?

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:02 am

maccydee wrote:Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

Why should me and my family pay for people who would never be allowed in any other country.Farage has just won a vote from an ex member of the Labour party.And judging by the talk in this village i am not the only one.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:40 am

Pant_yr_awel bluebird wrote:
maccydee wrote:Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

Why should me and my family pay for people who would never be allowed in any other country.Farage has just won a vote from an ex member of the Labour party.And judging by the talk in this village i am not the only one.
same with me

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:09 pm

popeye21 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.

People are coming from lots of places. My answer to those who speak against his view is try telling those who could live longer on cancer treatment, that the drugs they can't have through lack of funds, has no bearing on the money being spent on people not born in the UK and having HIV treatment. Why is it right for someone who has never paid into the system to be given priority over someone who has paid. The NHS does not have a bottomless pit of money, therefore the UK should stop health tourists. I know that some will say that it reduces the chance of these people passing on the virus, but it also encourages those with it to come here from countries where they can't afford treatment and then gives them the right to asylum and benefits. It's like a lottery win for some of them. Meanwhile, when Joe Bloggs returns from fighting for our freedoms in some far off land, then finds that he may no longer have a roof over his head, through his relationship deteriorating from lack of counselling. He then finds that although he has paid into the system he is bottom of the queue for housing and has to live on the streets.


Posted this before and the poor lady Ann who was a British taxpayer passed away last year because the NHS and British Government refused her Cancer drugs to prolong her life but are happy to fork out £30k - £40k a year for immigrants with HIV to prolong their lifes who haven't contributed at all via tax or NI contributions but must be given the drugs while British tax payers with cancer die.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:17 pm

maccydee wrote:Please feel free to go and live in a different country then.


It seems as though you are the one who doesn't like living in the United Kingdom. Why don't you move to Australia...?

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:32 pm

Immigrants, HIV and the true cost to the NHS: Should the 'International Health Service' be treating patients who come here with the killer disease. Each HIV patient from overseas – whether here legally or illegally, whether a failed asylum seeker or student on a temporary visa – is entitled to free treatment on the NHS.

Australia have the best approach as all immigrants have to pass a full medical test... an assessment is made about the likely impact of the costs of treating the person. If it is deemed too expensive, they can be refused entry.

The liberal elite of the UK wouldn't even think about such proposals as it would be discriminating against people with a killer virus. 60% of HIV cases are from immigrants and add another 10% through infecting British citizens then it's 70% of all new cases are from immigrants.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2788843/immigrants-hiv-true-cost-nhs-international-health-service-treating-patients-come-killer-disease-asks-sue-reid.html

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:43 pm

You are all being taken for a ride, not by some brown guy with HIV but by a guy with his feet firmly rooted in 'the establishment'.

UKIP's public stance against the Barnett formula has recently been adapted from Pro-England to Anti-Scotland but their beliefs haven't changed - England receive less money per head than Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland and in their opinion that isn't fair.

Wales will be fucked over if UKIP manage to find themselves with the 'balance of power' while propping the Tory's up. Funding for public services in Wales will be slashed, not only by incredibly deep Tory cuts but then also by the potential readjustment of the Barnett formula.

UKIP wants a new Constitutional Settlement for the UK which includes a fair deal for the 86% of the UK’s population who live in England.


With regards to Farage's statement. His numbers distort the truth. Farage's 'Health Tourism' costs the NHS around 1.8 billion. 1.4 Billion is from people who are working or studying here (working people pay taxes, foreign students pay astronomical fees up front). 300 million is estimated to be spent on Asylum seekers and Illegal migrants - if you were in a country illegally would you go to a hospital for treatment? The rest (100 million?) appears to be made up from people deliberately travelling to the UK for treatment that they are aware they aren't entitled to.

Farage is a public schoolboy who worked in the city, earns over 100,000 a year representing the British people (and effectively being paid by them) in an organisation he doesn't believe in. He has nothing in common with you or me. Don't automatically believe what he says just because he is telling you what you want to hear...

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:48 pm

evanmorgan wrote:You are all being taken for a ride, not by some brown guy with HIV but by a guy with his feet firmly rooted in 'the establishment'.

UKIP's public stance against the Barnett formula has recently been adapted from Pro-England to Anti-Scotland but their beliefs haven't changed - England receive less money per head than Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland and in their opinion that isn't fair.

Wales will be fucked over if UKIP manage to find themselves with the 'balance of power' while propping the Tory's up. Funding for public services in Wales will be slashed, not only by incredibly deep Tory cuts but then also by the potential readjustment of the Barnett formula.

UKIP wants a new Constitutional Settlement for the UK which includes a fair deal for the 86% of the UK’s population who live in England.


With regards to Farage's statement. His numbers distort the truth. Farage's 'Health Tourism' costs the NHS around 1.8 billion. 1.4 Billion is from people who are working or studying here (working people pay taxes, foreign students pay astronomical fees up front). 300 million is estimated to be spent on Asylum seekers and Illegal migrants - if you were in a country illegally would you go to a hospital for treatment? The rest (100 million?) appears to be made up from people deliberately travelling to the UK for treatment that they are aware they aren't entitled to.

Farage is a public schoolboy who worked in the city, earns over 100,000 a year representing the British people (and effectively being paid by them) in an organisation he doesn't believe in. He has nothing in common with you or me. Don't automatically believe what he says just because he is telling you what you want to hear...

Out of intrest what is your party then ? At least farage has the balls to say what must people are thinking

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:56 pm

evanmorgan wrote:
maccydee wrote:Please feel free to go and live in a different country then.


It seems as though you are the one who doesn't like living in the United Kingdom. Why don't you move to Australia...?


Another one of Blueminati's profiles.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:31 pm

wez1927 wrote:
evanmorgan wrote:You are all being taken for a ride, not by some brown guy with HIV but by a guy with his feet firmly rooted in 'the establishment'.

UKIP's public stance against the Barnett formula has recently been adapted from Pro-England to Anti-Scotland but their beliefs haven't changed - England receive less money per head than Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland and in their opinion that isn't fair.

Wales will be fucked over if UKIP manage to find themselves with the 'balance of power' while propping the Tory's up. Funding for public services in Wales will be slashed, not only by incredibly deep Tory cuts but then also by the potential readjustment of the Barnett formula.

UKIP wants a new Constitutional Settlement for the UK which includes a fair deal for the 86% of the UK’s population who live in England.


With regards to Farage's statement. His numbers distort the truth. Farage's 'Health Tourism' costs the NHS around 1.8 billion. 1.4 Billion is from people who are working or studying here (working people pay taxes, foreign students pay astronomical fees up front). 300 million is estimated to be spent on Asylum seekers and Illegal migrants - if you were in a country illegally would you go to a hospital for treatment? The rest (100 million?) appears to be made up from people deliberately travelling to the UK for treatment that they are aware they aren't entitled to.

Farage is a public schoolboy who worked in the city, earns over 100,000 a year representing the British people (and effectively being paid by them) in an organisation he doesn't believe in. He has nothing in common with you or me. Don't automatically believe what he says just because he is telling you what you want to hear...

Out of intrest what is your party then ? At least farage has the balls to say what must people are thinking


What are most people thinking? I honestly don't know who I will vote for...

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 4:03 pm

maccydee wrote:
evanmorgan wrote:
maccydee wrote:Please feel free to go and live in a different country then.


It seems as though you are the one who doesn't like living in the United Kingdom. Why don't you move to Australia...?


Another one of Blueminati's profiles.
.... Correct :lol: :lol:

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 5:18 pm

cardiff yid wrote:
maccydee wrote:
evanmorgan wrote:
maccydee wrote:Please feel free to go and live in a different country then.


It seems as though you are the one who doesn't like living in the United Kingdom. Why don't you move to Australia...?


Another one of Blueminati's profiles.
.... Correct :lol: :lol:


Not correct.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:03 pm

Is that the best you can? That guy is right about Farage to be honest. He is taking you all for mugs. I stopped going on about it because thankfully he wont get anywhere near an influential position anyway which is a shame because you all deserve the Little Englander. Weren't you all crying about Thatcherism back in the day? God some sections of Wales whinge about her even to this day and you want to vote for a party with a leader that idolises much of what she stood for. Oh well you'll never learn.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:03 pm

Forever Blue wrote:I would rather vote Farage than Ed Liar Milliband :thumbright:



Annis you can't possibly believe farage an deliver all he promises. He's a politician, they are liars that's what they do for a living.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:29 pm

nubbsy wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I would rather vote Farage than Ed Liar Milliband :thumbright:



Annis you can't possibly believe farage an deliver all he promises. He's a politician, they are liars that's what they do for a living.
farage is the best out of a crock of Shit

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:35 pm

wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I would rather vote Farage than Ed Liar Milliband :thumbright:



Annis you can't possibly believe farage an deliver all he promises. He's a politician, they are liars that's what they do for a living.
farage is the best out of a crock of Shit


He's basically Thatcher with male genitalia. :laughing5:

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:56 pm

The only good thing about Farage is he shakes the political establishment. He will get as many seats as plaid, two at most,good for TV but an irrelevance in the big scheme of things. He has made us talk about the EU and we need the debate.

The Tories will have to have the referendum and come out as being pro Europe. Europe will need to change a bit, the germans want changes but haven't the balls to upset the French. If they genuinely believe we'll pull out they will do enough to please the Tories to campaign to stay in.

The "progressive" left don't trust the public and know better......

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:00 pm

blueminati wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I would rather vote Farage than Ed Liar Milliband :thumbright:



Annis you can't possibly believe farage an deliver all he promises. He's a politician, they are liars that's what they do for a living.
farage is the best out of a crock of Shit


He's basically Thatcher with male genitalia. :laughing5:

We're you even born when Thatcher was in power

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:21 pm

wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I would rather vote Farage than Ed Liar Milliband :thumbright:



Annis you can't possibly believe farage an deliver all he promises. He's a politician, they are liars that's what they do for a living.
farage is the best out of a crock of Shit



Arguably wez but for me that's not enough reason to spend a vote on Any politician

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:37 pm

nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I would rather vote Farage than Ed Liar Milliband :thumbright:



Annis you can't possibly believe farage an deliver all he promises. He's a politician, they are liars that's what they do for a living.
farage is the best out of a crock of Shit



Arguably wez but for me that's not enough reason to spend a vote on Any politician
I always vote coz I believe everyone should ,if you don't vote then why moan ,I'm voting ukip and most of my family are this time ,we were all Labour voters for decades but just have had enough

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:50 pm

maccydee wrote:Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.


This thread just goes to show how the likes of UKIP are attempting to target the undereducated and ill informed by given out "facts" that prove to be nothing of the sort.They rely on people not being able or being too lazy to check out the veracity of their claims and then stoke up feeling against the group they are targeting.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:22 pm

wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I would rather vote Farage than Ed Liar Milliband :thumbright:



Annis you can't possibly believe farage an deliver all he promises. He's a politician, they are liars that's what they do for a living.
farage is the best out of a crock of Shit



Arguably wez but for me that's not enough reason to spend a vote on Any politician
I always vote coz I believe everyone should ,if you don't vote then why moan ,I'm voting ukip and most of my family are this time ,we were all Labour voters for decades but just have had enough


Of what?

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:31 pm

FFS - Farage is a total fake who creams the EU for his and his German, yes German, wife's expensive lifestyle and then gives the big man of the people bollox. All this shit about leaving the EU immediately is nonsense as we are bound in by treaty after treaty and trade agreement after trade agreement. He is appealing to the lowest common denominator - please don't get taken in by his " its all the immigrants fault" and leave this piece of scum under the stone he is trying to crawl out from under.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 9:40 pm

Bluebird For Life wrote:FFS - Farage is a total fake who creams the EU for his and his German, yes German, wife's expensive lifestyle and then gives the big man of the people bollox. All this shit about leaving the EU immediately is nonsense as we are bound in by treaty after treaty and trade agreement after trade agreement. He is appealing to the lowest common denominator - please don't get taken in by his " its all the immigrants fault" and leave this piece of scum under the stone he is trying to crawl out from under.


he'll drop down the price of a pint though, voters should think about that when at the ballot box ;)

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:05 pm

ccfcsince62 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.


This thread just goes to show how the likes of UKIP are attempting to target the undereducated and ill informed by given out "facts" that prove to be nothing of the sort.They rely on people not being able or being too lazy to check out the veracity of their claims and then stoke up feeling against the group they are targeting.


Piss off I have a relative who is a nurse and she knows full well it's true.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:41 pm

maccydee wrote:
ccfcsince62 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.


This thread just goes to show how the likes of UKIP are attempting to target the undereducated and ill informed by given out "facts" that prove to be nothing of the sort.They rely on people not being able or being too lazy to check out the veracity of their claims and then stoke up feeling against the group they are targeting.


Piss off I have a relative who is a nurse and she knows full well it's true.


It is true

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:55 pm

evanmorgan wrote:
wez1927 wrote: just have had enough

Of what?

Immigrants probably.

We know what Kippers are like......

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:55 pm

maccydee wrote:
ccfcsince62 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Africans are coming over and getting super expensive drugs to treat their HIV. He was right. The idiots jumping over him are making me want to vote for him more.


This thread just goes to show how the likes of UKIP are attempting to target the undereducated and ill informed by given out "facts" that prove to be nothing of the sort.They rely on people not being able or being too lazy to check out the veracity of their claims and then stoke up feeling against the group they are targeting.


Piss off I have a relative who is a nurse and she knows full well it's true.

Anecdotal evidence is worth jack all.