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Re: ' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON

Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:23 pm

Forever Blue wrote:' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON ? '

I believe Tan would like to claw back at least £40 million before next season starts, thats why Slade will be here no matter what the fans think about him.

Slade has done what Tan has asked so far.

Think about it, Slade on wages approx£2,000 plus a week, told to sell, sell, sell and keep us up in the Championship, Slade has achieved both.

Now he will have to do the same for next season, not many managers would do that, top managers would be asking for money and going for promotion, they would tell Tan where to go.

' So £40 million? '

£19 million from parachute payments.

Plus sales of players like Manga,Macheda,Le Fondre,Fabio, Marshall etc.

Can you name any that we would get £millions for? ?

Is the little dictator punishing us for winning our civil war.

Re: ' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON

Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:26 pm

Pant_yr_awel bluebird wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON ? '

I believe Tan would like to claw back at least £40 million before next season starts, thats why Slade will be here no matter what the fans think about him.

Slade has done what Tan has asked so far.

Think about it, Slade on wages approx£2,000 plus a week, told to sell, sell, sell and keep us up in the Championship, Slade has achieved both.

Now he will have to do the same for next season, not many managers would do that, top managers would be asking for money and going for promotion, they would tell Tan where to go.

' So £40 million? '

£19 million from parachute payments.

Plus sales of players like Manga,Macheda,Le Fondre,Fabio, Marshall etc.

Can you name any that we would get £millions for? ?

Is the little dictator punishing us for winning our civil war.


What by sending out a centre half on loan? :sleepy2:

Re: ' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON

Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:37 pm

ThomasC wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
jayb wrote:Wonder why season tickets sales are down :crazy:


I can see that our team will be full of lower division players and for that,the prices of admission should come down.


spot-on Annis :thumbup: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



but the price of admission has pretty much stayed the same for 6 seasons now. Thats not really too bad is it?


Not many businesses go on record to say they are not going to give the same value as before, but promote there product to the customers at the same value


We should get a refund

Re: ' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON

Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:18 pm

how can tan expect us fans to renew when we get rid of our best players does tan think we are that stupid marshall, manga need to kept to build a team around :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :ayatollah:

Re: ' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON

Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:59 pm

Forever Blue wrote:' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON ? '

I believe Tan would like to claw back at least £40 million before next season starts, thats why Slade will be here no matter what the fans think about him.

Slade has done what Tan has asked so far.

Think about it, Slade on wages approx£2,000 plus a week, told to sell, sell, sell and keep us up in the Championship, Slade has achieved both.

Now he will have to do the same for next season, not many managers would do that, top managers would be asking for money and going for promotion, they would tell Tan where to go.

' So £40 million? '

£19 million from parachute payments.

Plus sales of players like Manga,Macheda,Le Fondre,Fabio, Marshall etc.

Can you name any that we would get £millions for? ?


Exactly the reason I won't be hard on slade until we get a settled squad that's finally his for the foreseeable future
And exactly why I've asked for suggestions If he goes who comes in on that sort of remit?

Re: ' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:06 pm

Trollope

And answer me why slade doesn't play the players he signed? What happens when he signs more lol

Re: ' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:10 pm

Realistically Tan will keep stripping the club, until there is nothing left to sell!!!

Then he will call in his directors loans and effectively wipe the club out.

We will be put into administration, and subsequently drop further down the leagues.

What's the score with the stadium? Is that council owned? We don't want to have something like Coventry happening to us?

Personally I think the supporters trust should be raising as much money as possible over the next few years, so that when we do go into administration , the supporters can negotiate directly with the administrators (nasty fuckers) , better than Tan, and hopefully we would have a shot of buying the club.

I bet when this happens our club won't be as United as Pompey . All we do is fight among ourselves.

Fan owned clubs is the only possible way forward with football clubs. Until then all we are doing is waiting for the next Tan :(

Re: ' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:31 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Trollope

And answer me why slade doesn't play the players he signed? What happens when he signs more lol


Perhaps he realises some of them are crap luke

Or perhaps he's been told to play our regulars so they are in shop window nothing surprises me with tan and city anymore

Look at comnoly today don't know the whole story and agree we are saving money but if he's part of next years plans then it's madness letting him go for the sake of 200k

Healy being recalled is interesting my guess is Macheda has only come into the squad since we were mathematically safe to put him in the shop window

I honestly think including those already out on laon we could see 10/11 layers leave this summer mate

I would not be surprised to see only 4/5 of the current match day squad in next seaons match day squad

Wouldn't be surprised of our squad looked likey this

GK- Moore
RB-
CB- Peltier
CB-
LB- Malone
RM- kennedy
CM- Adeymi
CM- O keefe
LM- Ralls
ST- Mason
ST- doyle

take away our entire first eleven virtually and we still got 15 ish players

Think about that one

Others I can think of

Healy
Dikagio
John
Revell

In reality that could see these all depart again that I can think of

Marshall
Manga
Morrison
Theopile Catherine
Connolly
Fabio
Whitts
Gunnarson
Jones
Macheda
noone
Pilkingon
Le Fondre

Feel free to add any I've missed that potentially could leave and have some sale value or are high earners

Re: ' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:35 pm

Forgot

Maynard
Mcnaughton (may even slide back into RB)
Kadeem Harris (normal list for next year)

Re: ' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:37 pm

That's 30 players there half of which probably well over the wage limits we should be paying in the championship so likely to be for sale or let go

Just my opinion of course

The only two I think that would want to stay here are marshy and whitts both have said many times don't want to leave cardiff but could club force their hand?

Re: ' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:54 pm

Best policy is to wait to renew season tickets till September and see what squad we have for next season :bluescarf:

Re: ' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON

Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:41 pm

Annis , which option are you going for? Your post title says Tan is trying to raise £40m next season , then the post itself says he wants to claw back £40m before next season starts - they are two different things unless you mean he intends to do both.

Also cash flows and profits/(losses) are two different things which posters often get mixed up when discussing the club`s finances. For instance , last season the club lost £12m in profit and loss terms but actually generated a small amount of net cash of £29k. I will try and explain and analyse this below

1.From normal trading activities (gate money and other income less wages and other running costs) , the club generated net cash of £4.2m

2. The club received £64.5m in new loans and £2.5m in new share money from Vincent Tan , but used £15.7m of this to pay off other loans (part of Langston , PMG , Player Fund etc) , so that was a further net receipt of cash of £51.3m

3) Adding 1. and 2. together makes a total of £55.5m coming into the club during the year.

4) The club spent the above money on the cost of new players (£45.8m) , but got £3.1m back in from player sales. It also spent out £12.8m on the stadium and equipment ( of which £11.8m was on the Ninian Stand extension). That gives a total of £55.5m so all that came in cash wise was spent out to almost exacly the same extent so cash only went up by £29,000.


This current season , to just breakeven in profit terms (not cash terms), the club will have to make cost savings or get extra income (or a combination of both would do)of about £52m to cover the loss of £12m made last year and the difference between last year`s Sky money of £63m and this year`s parachute payment.
Part of this should come from having to write off far less as a cost of writing down player values (last season`s cost was over £18m) and the value of the stand extension (£5.5m written off last year). Also , there should not be a repeat of the loss of £5.2m made on selling players as we would have made a profit on Medel , Caulker , Mutch , Campbell etc in this year`s accounts.

In cash terms , we have spent out far less cash on new players , haven`t paid back VT or any other creditors (other than Sam`s £1m a year until it was stopped) and haven`t wasted money again on the ground extension.

Re: ' VINCENT TAN TO RAISE £40 MILLION FROM CITY NEXT SEASON

Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:49 pm

ccfcsince62 wrote:Annis , which option are you going for? Your post title says Tan is trying to raise £40m next season , then the post itself says he wants to claw back £40m before next season starts - they are two different things unless you mean he intends to do both.

Also cash flows and profits/(losses) are two different things which posters often get mixed up when discussing the club`s finances. For instance , last season the club lost £12m in profit and loss terms but actually generated a small amount of net cash of £29k. I will try and explain and analyse this below

1.From normal trading activities (gate money and other income less wages and other running costs) , the club generated net cash of £4.2m

2. The club received £64.5m in new loans and £2.5m in new share money from Vincent Tan , but used £15.7m of this to pay off other loans (part of Langston , PMG , Player Fund etc) , so that was a further net receipt of cash of £51.3m

3) Adding 1. and 2. together makes a total of £55.5m coming into the club during the year.

4) The club spent the above money on the cost of new players (£45.8m) , but got £3.1m back in from player sales. It also spent out £12.8m on the stadium and equipment ( of which £11.8m was on the Ninian Stand extension). That gives a total of £55.5m so all that came in cash wise was spent out to almost exacly the same extent so cash only went up by £29,000.


This current season , to just breakeven in profit terms (not cash terms), the club will have to make cost savings or get extra income (or a combination of both would do)of about £52m to cover the loss of £12m made last year and the difference between last year`s Sky money of £63m and this year`s parachute payment.
Part of this should come from having to write off far less as a cost of writing down player values (last season`s cost was over £18m) and the value of the stand extension (£5.5m written off last year). Also , there should not be a repeat of the loss of £5.2m made on selling players as we would have made a profit on Medel , Caulker , Mutch , Campbell etc in this year`s accounts.

In cash terms , we have spent out far less cash on new players , haven`t paid back VT or any other creditors (other than Sam`s £1m a year until it was stopped) and haven`t wasted money again on the ground extension.

So in your opinion will we see a lot better set of accounts this time around