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Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Wed Dec 31, 2014 9:30 pm

Most, but not all club owners respect fans viewpoint and realise passionate fans have a very positive effect on both the players and club as a whole. They realise that it is a two way street.

Vincent Tan refers to the fans as customers, which is his way of elevating the importance of himself above the fans. Every move that Tan makes, is about "control" and the reinforcing that it is his club and not ours. He has exacted a high price in terms of mass emotional stress for thousands of us, in return for promises he is yet to keep. In his mind he has left himself an "out", as he will be able to claim that the fans did not really accept his offer and were rude to him.

Hated the rebrand from day one and felt physically sick during scarfgate. Last season and this has taken its toll on my health with the anger I feel with everything that has been going on. I have told my father that no matter what happens on the pitch in terms of results I need to stop going for a season or two, until the club returns to its true identity and in whatever division that is.

Fans boo players off at half time and watching what looks like a foreign side play in the stadium, I'm really not enjoying going anymore. I can deal with poor performances, seen plenty of those over the years, never ever boo'd once, players do not try to play bad. Stewards who have no affection for the club and it being just a job.

The club that gave me some of the best memories of my life growing up, exists only in name. The club that made me cry on the last day we played at Ninian Park, is broken from top to bottom.

For my own health, I have to stop going, that is the only message that Mr Tan will hear.

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:18 pm

For me I made the choice after about 4 or 5 games at home this season. I ain't enjoying the experience any more and even the away games I was beginning to resent. :bluescarf:

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:08 am

Most I know won't go until Tan goes
And our clours and badge reinstated.

For me sadly it is the same
Although - I feel I may need to go on Friday...

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:10 am

Some people will be looking for reasons, like the ending of the Golden ticket option so an increase in prices, for the reason. It's been said that the club is going to make a big announcement on this soon, so maybe that will bring some back. Many fans I know are fed-up with those focussing on returning to Blue being the most important issue. I know it is to some, but it isn't to the vast majority of fans I speak to. One fan who was at the Watford game said when we went behind, we needed to try to lift the team, and a group of supporters around him started chanting "We'll always be blue". How is that going to help lift the team? It isn't! Having a fanbase split over whether the performance of the team or the colour of the shirt is the more important issue, is just going to lead to more angry exchanges and fans becoming disillusioned, and so not renewing.

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 11:16 am

I didnt renew.Bored with modern football,and bored sat down watching football.

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 2:05 pm

The last twelve months have taken its toil on me , sacking of malky and the way it all unravelled . The free spending spirit of olly with no real substance in the plans , Obviously Russel Slade wasn't the manager I would have liked , i'm still backing him and see what players he brings in and see if there's any improvements , but the last few games there's a few individuals in the team their fitness levels is not up to the previous regime off jones and Malky

And I 'm not enjoying Vincent motives of hanging out the linen with our former managers no point in dwelling in the past move on and get the club playing hard working , organised attractive football !!!
Probably next season I will pick and choose games to attend but it might be more tempting to work instead !!!

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 3:58 pm

welshflinty wrote:I didnt renew.Bored with modern football,and bored sat down watching football.


You could always go back to your beloved Liverpool.

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 4:11 pm

100% nobluenorenew

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:42 pm

You could always go back to your beloved Liverpool.


Dont matter,its still modern football.Find it boring.

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:12 pm

Will always be a bluebird, known Malaysian businessmen over here in Cardiff and Mr Tan simply isn't what any of us expected and hoped for.

Tried my best to believe he would turn it round as after all is said and done, running a successful business is all about supplying the customer with what he wants! Since the rebrand it's all gone downhill and as there is no way it's going to change please Mr Tan , cut your losses and go somewhere else where you may well be appreciated as your no longer wanted here

We plan to keep going , including tomorrow, however 4 season tickets for next season will not happen if we are still no further forward. Like many " life time fans" you can still be a fan and miss games

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 6:46 pm

Annis

The reason fans renewed and were against the Red Rebrand was in hope Tan would quickly realise his mistake and return us to Blue , however its more then clear he has no intention of returning us to Blue and besides that he has show little if no respect to us as fans and the bridge has widened too much as a result.
Continuing to buy in to the Red Rebrand and Tans reluctance to change his stance in My opinion is fruitless and unless there is all out effort to get the Blue colours back then Im afraid we will continue to erode our history or Pride and our identity which has has reprived us of for far too long ... Dont renew if your Blue.......

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:14 pm

You can draw an analogy with employees and employers, as we are aware the employer holds the balance of power in terms of owing the means of production and therefore decides on wages and conditions of work, however, various organisations fought for the workers right to withdraw their labour(Strike) when an impasse was reached. I think we have got to this stage with Tan, supporters have no power except to withdraw their attendance and therefore withhold their finance and support from the owner.
I agree with TLG in his response to supporters who say "that's it I've had enough, I'm not attending any more, you have won Mr Tan". On the contrary, by continuing to attend games at CCS Mr Tan has won, we see it as not giving up on our team, he sees it as the validation of the terms of his ownership :bluescarf:

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:18 pm

Im out what ever league we are in. Modern price of football is forcing me away.

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:25 pm

blue lagoon wrote:Im out what ever league we are in. Modern price of football is forcing me away.


I can honestly say the price,,,as I would not have renewed if not for the price freeze.

I hate the rebrand, but like most others, passively supported it.

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 8:32 pm

RICK+CCFC wrote:
blue lagoon wrote:Im out what ever league we are in. Modern price of football is forcing me away.


I can honestly say the price,,,as I would not have renewed if not for the price freeze.

I hate the rebrand, but like most others, passively supported it.


That's exactly how I and thousands of others felt and still feel Rick. Nobluenorenew is the only option now and we need the support of Annis and Carl for maximum impact :bluescarf: :thumbup:

Time for real action now.

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:19 pm

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Blazing Saddles wrote:
RICK+CCFC wrote:
blue lagoon wrote:Im out what ever league we are in. Modern price of football is forcing me away.


I can honestly say the price,,,as I would not have renewed if not for the price freeze.

I hate the rebrand, but like most others, passively supported it.


That's exactly how I and thousands of others felt and still feel Rick. Nobluenorenew is the only option now and we need the support of Annis and Carl for maximum impact :bluescarf: :thumbup:

Time for real action now.

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:35 am

I have been away for a bit as work heavy now with new username as forgot log in details new year new name......however old troubles, I must agred with Annis on this we should push certain things to the side as our team is on the slide. We hafe to remember we are ccfc supporters and the side comes first.

I do however feel that undef Slae we are on a pompey or leeds like slide .... this is the worst city side I can remember watching dull clueless boring 4 4 2 tripe, we have a league 1 managet and suitably playing like a bad league one side. As I said though lets support our team until end of season to nake sure we at least stay championship and pick the bones out at end of season.

COME ON BLOOOBIRDZ STICK TOGETHER FOR SAKE OF OUR TEAM.

Re: " SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:49 am

Forever Blue wrote:Why are you not renewing your season tickets for 2015/16 Season?

If its because of the Rebrand, then why did we have 22,500 season ticket holders nearly 2 years ago,then 18,200 season ticket holders renew in February/March 2014?

I have Hated/Detested the Rebrand from day one,but I chose to Support Cardiff City No matter what and continue to keep our Club BLUE within the Stadium, Many many City fans told me to move on regarding the Rebrand :shock: Now the same ones are not renewing?

In 2012 I never went with the flow of Red and got stick for it massively and today I seem to be going against the flow again and getting stick again, but I have remained consistent and always been for the BLUE & OUR BADGE nothing else :thumbright: :thumbright: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

I totally Respect those that walked away in 2012, but why now?

Surely you should of not renewed from day one?

HONESTY PLEASE? :thumbright:


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annis,ive had enough,i put my money in early 5 years ago to save the club as did you...for what..a club i know longer recognise or have any passion for and the only thing i can do to hurt tan is walk away....i hope he goes soon and i can again enjoy the day out..As for the premier league call me a plastic but yep i wanted to be apart of the crowd but truth is again it ment nothing watching the team....i coached football and thou i wanted the lads to win my aim was 100% effort...win lose or draw....something that this season is sadly lacking with the boys in red.....id be happy watching a ding dong game in whatever league......if tan goes and we can return to blue....."il be back as" Arnie once said......happy new year kevin.. :ayatollah: