' Consortium possibility to take over Cardiff City '

I know nothing about this but if it's a local consortium my fear is it will involve Borley which does not enthral me.

I have heard strong rumours Tan wants another UK club and if so he needs to get rid of us. I feared he would stick to a high price for us hence why I was preparing for another 2 seasons with him. If this does come off before the season has ended then I will be delighted.

Borley can f**k off to be honest. He's only in it for the money, he has no genuine love for the club.

To be fair, Steve Borley has genuinely done some good for the club in the past and he is undoubtedly a City fan. Unfortunately the shameless way in which he sold the "red or dead" lie has killed his credibility and he has lost all respect with many fans.

My stance has been and still is No blue no renew. When you are looking at consortium's it makes it high risk. But lets hope.

I beg it not to include sam.

The balls up with tan can rose tint sam hammams time here. Never mind red kit and badge, we came v close to being extinct under SH

As the saying goes...never go back.

Perfect timing if it is SH though from his PR side, will be carried back into the stadium like the saviour, when last time he was the assassin.

For me the big difference between Sam Hammam and Tan is that with Hammam it was incompetence, whereas with tan it has been nasty and spiteful.

Peter Ridsdale is the man, with Sam as the main man. Dave jones as new manager,,,!!!

I beg it not to include sam.

The balls up with tan can rose tint sam hammams time here. Never mind red kit and badge, we came v close to being extinct under SH

As the saying goes...never go back.

Perfect timing if it is SH though from his PR side, will be carried back into the stadium like the saviour, when last time he was the assassin.

For me the big difference between Sam Hammam and Tan is that with Hammam it was incompetence, whereas with tan it has been nasty and spiteful.

I agree 100%

But I don't want incompetent owners, incompetence nearly finished us last time. The way HMRC etc are now, incompetence will finish us.

Hammam is bad news, he might have 2years of being the golden boy if he comes back, turning us blue, badge back etc, but he will screw us again.

He couldn't afford us back then, so def can't now, he would almost certainly be a figure head and poss chairman not owner, more how nial Quinn was at Sunderland.

I beg it not to include sam.

The balls up with tan can rose tint sam hammams time here. Never mind red kit and badge, we came v close to being extinct under SH

As the saying goes...never go back.

Perfect timing if it is SH though from his PR side, will be carried back into the stadium like the saviour, when last time he was the assassin.

For me the big difference between Sam Hammam and Tan is that with Hammam it was incompetence, whereas with tan it has been nasty and spiteful.

I agree 100%

But I don't want incompetent owners, incompetence nearly finished us last time. The way HMRC etc are now, incompetence will finish us.

Hammam is bad news, he might have 2years of being the golden boy if he comes back, turning us blue, badge back etc, but he will screw us again.

He couldn't afford us back then, so def can't now, he would almost certainly be a figure head and poss chairman not owner, more how nial Quinn was at Sunderland.

Sam obviously couldn't afford to buy the club off tan for the alleged amount that the club owes tan, approx £150m, but presumably that's what the consortium idea is about. You would have to assume that Hammam (if it is him) must believe that tan is ready to sell to warrant him going ahead with such a plan.

This would be best ever Christmas if true and goes ahead

I beg it not to include sam.

The balls up with tan can rose tint sam hammams time here. Never mind red kit and badge, we came v close to being extinct under SH

As the saying goes...never go back.

Perfect timing if it is SH though from his PR side, will be carried back into the stadium like the saviour, when last time he was the assassin.

For me the big difference between Sam Hammam and Tan is that with Hammam it was incompetence, whereas with tan it has been nasty and spiteful.

If it was Sam? ? then your Spot on,you can not compare the two

Who the hell would want to buy our Club for £150million+ when Aston Villa are half that price?

Who the hell would want to buy our Club for £150million+ when Aston Villa are half that price?

Correct
But have you thought,Someone who cares

I beg it not to include sam.

The balls up with tan can rose tint sam hammams time here. Never mind red kit and badge, we came v close to being extinct under SH

As the saying goes...never go back.

Perfect timing if it is SH though from his PR side, will be carried back into the stadium like the saviour, when last time he was the assassin.

For me the big difference between Sam Hammam and Tan is that with Hammam it was incompetence, whereas with tan it has been nasty and spiteful.

I agree 100%

But I don't want incompetent owners, incompetence nearly finished us last time. The way HMRC etc are now, incompetence will finish us.

Hammam is bad news, he might have 2years of being the golden boy if he comes back, turning us blue, badge back etc, but he will screw us again.

He couldn't afford us back then, so def can't now, he would almost certainly be a figure head and poss chairman not owner, more how nial Quinn was at Sunderland.

Sam obviously couldn't afford to buy the club off tan for the alleged amount that the club owes tan, approx £150m, but presumably that's what the consortium idea is about. You would have to assume that Hammam (if it is him) must believe that tan is ready to sell to warrant him going ahead with such a plan.[/quote

I beg it not to include sam.

The balls up with tan can rose tint sam hammams time here. Never mind red kit and badge, we came v close to being extinct under SH

As the saying goes...never go back.

Perfect timing if it is SH though from his PR side, will be carried back into the stadium like the saviour, when last time he was the assassin.

For me the big difference between Sam Hammam and Tan is that with Hammam it was incompetence, whereas with tan it has been nasty and spiteful.

I agree 100%

But I don't want incompetent owners, incompetence nearly finished us last time. The way HMRC etc are now, incompetence will finish us.

Hammam is bad news, he might have 2years of being the golden boy if he comes back, turning us blue, badge back etc, but he will screw us again.

He couldn't afford us back then, so def can't now, he would almost certainly be a figure head and poss chairman not owner, more how nial Quinn was at Sunderland.

Sam obviously couldn't afford to buy the club off tan for the alleged amount that the club owes tan, approx £150m, but presumably that's what the consortium idea is about. You would have to assume that Hammam (if it is him) must believe that tan is ready to sell to warrant him going ahead with such a plan.

I would be completely amazed sam isn't involved somehow, I think he came back to the club looking for his way in and has found it.

Do consortium's work in football?

We are ripe to be bought with an outlook at selling for a big profit in the short term. Buy us now, we have own training ground, stadium, fan back on side, the big gamble is promotion an staying up for a season. They can then sell us to someone who can sustain and afford to finance an io going a premiership side, knowing the stadium is able to take another 20,000 seats.

The gamble is huge though and I don't trust sam with the dice

Who the hell would want to buy our Club for £150million+ when Aston Villa are half that price?

Correct
But have you thought,Someone who cares

Someone with a local link or emotional/past loyalty would obviously be the only ones but that's a lot of money!

If there is any truth in this then it wouldn't surprise me with Sam. The man loves a dream, loves a risk and many would argue that without his spell at the Club, we wouldn't be a Club the size we are today

Who the hell would want to buy our Club for £150million+ when Aston Villa are half that price?

Correct
But have you thought,Someone who cares

Someone with a local link or emotional/past loyalty would obviously be the only ones but that's a lot of money!

But it wont be their money,they would of hopefully been able to put the Consortium together

Who the hell would want to buy our Club for £150million+ when Aston Villa are half that price?

Correct
But have you thought,Someone who cares

Someone with a local link or emotional/past loyalty would obviously be the only ones but that's a lot of money!

But it wont be their money,they would of hopefully been able to put the Consortium together

Annis do you think consortium's work in football?

It might be good for us early doors as it gets tan away, but I think to get promoted anytime again costs serious money, and staying up costs more and even more losses per week.

Sadly to compete now you need. Loaded sugar daddies and cardiff doesn't have many oil owners

Who the hell would want to buy our Club for £150million+ when Aston Villa are half that price?

Correct
But have you thought,Someone who cares

Someone with a local link or emotional/past loyalty would obviously be the only ones but that's a lot of money!

But it wont be their money,they would of hopefully been able to put the Consortium together

How many are rumoured to be part of this consortium?

Who the hell would want to buy our Club for £150million+ when Aston Villa are half that price?

Correct
But have you thought,Someone who cares

Someone with a local link or emotional/past loyalty would obviously be the only ones but that's a lot of money!

But it wont be their money,they would of hopefully been able to put the Consortium together

Annis do you think consortium's work in football?

It might be good for us early doors as it gets tan away, but I think to get promoted anytime again costs serious money, and staying up costs more and even more losses per week.

Sadly to compete now you need. Loaded sugar daddies and cardiff doesn't have many oil owners

I have to disagree with this np. Money is obviously a factor but, what you really need to get promoted is a good manager and a team of experienced Championship players that will run through walls for you. If you add to that the unity of the club and fans, you have as good a chance as any.

Who the hell would want to buy our Club for £150million+ when Aston Villa are half that price?

Correct
But have you thought,Someone who cares

Someone with a local link or emotional/past loyalty would obviously be the only ones but that's a lot of money!

But it wont be their money,they would of hopefully been able to put the Consortium together

How many are rumoured to be part of this consortium?

Honestly Ive already said to much in what Ive heard is a very very strong rumour and for it to happen,names etc etc have to be not put out,Sorry

Who the hell would want to buy our Club for £150million+ when Aston Villa are half that price?

Correct
But have you thought,Someone who cares

Someone with a local link or emotional/past loyalty would obviously be the only ones but that's a lot of money!

But it wont be their money,they would of hopefully been able to put the Consortium together

How many are rumoured to be part of this consortium?

Honestly Ive already said to much in what Ive heard is a very very strong rumour and for it to happen,names etc etc have to be not put out,Sorry

Of course. You'll send fans into meltdown now Annis!

Who the hell would want to buy our Club for £150million+ when Aston Villa are half that price?

Correct
But have you thought,Someone who cares

Someone with a local link or emotional/past loyalty would obviously be the only ones but that's a lot of money!

But it wont be their money,they would of hopefully been able to put the Consortium together

Annis do you think consortium's work in football?

It might be good for us early doors as it gets tan away, but I think to get promoted anytime again costs serious money, and staying up costs more and even more losses per week.

Sadly to compete now you need. Loaded sugar daddies and cardiff doesn't have many oil owners

I have to disagree with this np. Money is obviously a factor but, what you really need to get promoted is a good manager and a team of experienced Championship players that will run through walls for you. If you add to that the unity of the club and fans, you have as good a chance as any.

But those teams normAlly get relegated back down the next season. One team a year might make it up buy not spending. Ie Burnley, palace, both I think had outstanding managers in Holloway and esp dyche, but to step up and stay in th premiership without the cash normally is impossible. Palace were an exception to th rule. I agree you can get promoted your way, but it's harder an harder to do it that way and the following season I think then becomes the problem, as you need to spend big

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Who the hell would want to buy our Club for £150million+ when Aston Villa are half that price?

Correct
But have you thought,Someone who cares

Someone with a local link or emotional/past loyalty would obviously be the only ones but that's a lot of money!

But it wont be their money,they would of hopefully been able to put the Consortium together

How many are rumoured to be part of this consortium?

Honestly Ive already said to much in what Ive heard is a very very strong rumour and for it to happen,names etc etc have to be not put out,Sorry

Of course. You'll send fans into meltdown now Annis!

Sorry,But I believe its much more than a rumour and was told keep names etc out of it

Who the hell would want to buy our Club for £150million+ when Aston Villa are half that price?

Correct
But have you thought,Someone who cares

Someone with a local link or emotional/past loyalty would obviously be the only ones but that's a lot of money!

But it wont be their money,they would of hopefully been able to put the Consortium together

Annis do you think consortium's work in football?

It might be good for us early doors as it gets tan away, but I think to get promoted anytime again costs serious money, and staying up costs more and even more losses per week.

Sadly to compete now you need. Loaded sugar daddies and cardiff doesn't have many oil owners

I have to disagree with this np. Money is obviously a factor but, what you really need to get promoted is a good manager and a team of experienced Championship players that will run through walls for you. If you add to that the unity of the club and fans, you have as good a chance as any.

But those teams normAlly get relegated back down the next season. One team a year might make it up buy not spending. Ie Burnley, palace, both I think had outstanding managers in Holloway and esp dyche, but to step up and stay in th premiership without the cash normally is impossible. Palace were an exception to th rule. I agree you can get promoted your way, but it's harder an harder to do it that way and the following season I think then becomes the problem, as you need to spend big

You only have to look 50 miles West to see that it can be done. I agree it is exceptional nowadays, but surely a model to be followed.

Just for fun, what about 'Dalman ' ?

He won't have the funds himself, but might know those who have.

Lawnmower you are a bright guy and Dalman is in talks with this person and persons Dalman has got nearly £10m of his own money invested in the club. The problem is Tan I am told he has agreed to sell but only for £80m the consortium has offered him £60m. Which is the price he wanted if the club get relegation. Dalman has worked out that if he can get a new consortium in and they changed us back to were we were the club will be backing more money and he will see a return on his investor and stay as chairman of the club

Who the hell would want to buy our Club for £150million+ when Aston Villa are half that price?

Correct
But have you thought,Someone who cares

Someone with a local link or emotional/past loyalty would obviously be the only ones but that's a lot of money!

But it wont be their money,they would of hopefully been able to put the Consortium together

Annis do you think consortium's work in football?

It might be good for us early doors as it gets tan away, but I think to get promoted anytime again costs serious money, and staying up costs more and even more losses per week.

Sadly to compete now you need. Loaded sugar daddies and cardiff doesn't have many oil owners

I have to disagree with this np. Money is obviously a factor but, what you really need to get promoted is a good manager and a team of experienced Championship players that will run through walls for you. If you add to that the unity of the club and fans, you have as good a chance as any.

But those teams normAlly get relegated back down the next season. One team a year might make it up buy not spending. Ie Burnley, palace, both I think had outstanding managers in Holloway and esp dyche, but to step up and stay in th premiership without the cash normally is impossible. Palace were an exception to th rule. I agree you can get promoted your way, but it's harder an harder to do it that way and the following season I think then becomes the problem, as you need to spend big

You only have to look 50 miles West to see that it can be done. I agree it is exceptional nowadays, but surely a model to be followed.

The jacks system hasn't changed for about 10years, we don't have a philosophy and system the the club is built around. Well apart from broken promises and bad choices.

Completely agree we need our own model though, but who do we have to start it running and will the consortium allow a manager the years it will take to possibly implement it.

Good to see a city fan who seems to have his head screwed on though!

Would TG be possibly part of this consortium? Again doesn't have the money, but has connections him and sam could put group together, would be able to possibly come to a deal with tan and obviously got on well with tan. Wouuld be interesting to see how more Asian owner's went down.

I met TG several times and always thought he was a top bloke.
He never wanted or agreed with the rebrand either.

I met TG several times and always thought he was a top bloke.
He never wanted or agreed with the rebrand either.

Never met him, but he spoke well in the public domain, I just don't like people returning.

He was a top guy last time for me, and genuinely didn't seem like he wants to mess us about like tan, I would back him, but who brings the money to the table? Another unknown is a scary proposition

Just for fun, what about 'Dalman ' ?

He won't have the funds himself, but might know those who have.

Dalman is already running the show.

I just hope Bushy eyebrows isint involved

Just for fun, what about 'Dalman ' ?

He won't have the funds himself, but might know those who have.

Dalman is already running the show.

I know Dalman is tarnished by having worked for the present regime but I actually rate and, to a degree, trust him. OK he made a major cock up appointing OGS but he did well is attracting such a high profile manager in the first place and tried to broker a truce between Tan, Malky and the fans last December.

I would be happy with him running the show whereas if Sam had any financial powers in any new club I would seriously consider not renewing . What we want is for the fans/club to be as one again and, despite what some people say on this board, Sam is hugely divisive and I know many people who feel the same as me on that one. Despite everything we now have to put up with my worst days as a City fan were during the "Black Friday" disaster and REAL risk of losing my club which was all down to Sam.

I really hope that these rumours of a consortium are correct but the other poster who raised the point about Villa being on sale for £80m is quite correct to point out that they are a much more attractive proposition. So unless this is someone already involved or with a local interest I'll remain sceptical until it ges out in the open.