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Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:30 pm

Grobari_Partizan wrote:Famous Soul Crew. Red carpet is ready. Girls are horny.


We all love horny girls! The question I posed was prompted because I know the Balkans generally have had such a bloody and turbulent history and its no wonder there is such widespread mutual hatred and mistrust. I remember reading the history of the Chetniks, the Partizans and the Ustase and apart from the Monarchist loyalty of the Chetniks, the Communist sympathies of the Partizans and the Ustase's Nazi support, I could never fully understand their true relationships with how Jugoslavia was formed. It all seemed so complex and bloody. I understand Tito was a Partizan and I seem to remrmber a Chetnik slogan " sloboda ili smrt" ... freedom or death but never fully understood its context. Are you a Partizan supporter because your family were Partisans or is it not that simple? In which case are Chetnik families from Beograd Red Star supporters?

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:32 am

Of course not. Our families were mixed. Some were in Chetniks some in Partizans. After WW2, both clubs Partizan and Red Star were established. Just see the names. Partizan is symbol of guerulla fighter. They were under communists comntrol. And Red Star is symbol of communism. Partizan were founded by army people and Red Star by police. There were some stories from the beginning of the 90s to change both names, Partizan in Chetnik and Red Star in White Eagles, but that was just a stupid story. We don't want to change our name and badge, it is part of our history. Most of fans are Serbian nationalists, but still we don't want to change anything. Personally, I am nationalist, too. Someone said that Serbian nationalists are animals. What is wrong to be nationalist? We are not fascists, at least 99% of Serbs are not. Some idiots maybe are, but they are just stupid kids. I as I sad I am nationalist, but I don't hate other nations. I just less like some nations than others. For example, I like British people I have great experiences with them.

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:35 am

jtc wrote:
Grobari_Partizan wrote:My opinion is that Serbs are totally lost right now. OK most of population. We have our way to EU, we don't ask for price. Some people are expecting, as we like to say, honey and milk if we ever be part of EU. So I think most of people don't think about past and about ex YU countries. Because of that, I cant's say people's opinion. I can say only my opinion.

whats nikola zigic up to?birmingham city legend.love the big man


I am bigger fan of Croats, Albanians... than of Nikola Zigic. He is gypo (nickname for Red Star fan), he used to play for Red Star :)

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:44 am

jtc wrote:the serbs have suffered bad things from the other ex yugoslavs over the years.i got time for the serbs.my dutch mate married a serb girl.they live in zwolle holland.i know she (according to him)has no problem with other ex slavs.


All ex Yu countries suffered. But honestly, when you see happenings from ww1 and ww2, you will know that Serbs suffered too much. After ww1 we need several years to pass to have young people for army. Most of older died it that war. We liberated Croatia and other parts of ex Yu. Only Serbs bleed. And our stupid king didn't make big Serbia, he made Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenians on Serbian bones. In ww2 Croats took nazi side and muslims from bosnia, and of course Albanians from Kosovo and Metohija. About 1 million Serbs died in Ustase's nazi camps in Croatia. We could never forget that. We could forgive but never forget.
Annis posted this link to one our secret fb group. Some lads wrote:
Some heated discussions at the forum my friend, thanks for posting it here...I've had no desire creating account there, as it is rather disappointing to see what bbc and alike media did to UK population during the wars in ex-yugoslavia, and how much injust blame has been put on Serbs and Serbia for defending her own historical lands...All in the midst of fighting IS...But I suppose 'some terrorists are better than others' to the UK government that successfuly turned Serbia from traditional
friend in two big wars to an awful, disgusting enemy...To many of us that's the same as pissing on all fallen soldiers and lost civilians massacred by traditional nazi allies croats, bosnian muslims, albanians, etc...in both world wars...why democratic UK took nazi side in ex-yu conflict is something I could never understand.

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I've seen that my friend and agree with you...It is just really hard to understand that people can't read history, can't even try to remember who leveled London in WWII, as well as Belgrade and why our two nations were together fighting the same enemy on so many levels...History cannot be erased by anyone...

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:35 am

Uros,Yes BLUE carpet for me as well please :thumbright: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:51 am

Forever Blue wrote:Uros,Yes BLUE carpet for me as well please :thumbright: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


No black & white carpet ? :)

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:53 am

Mallo asked for red carpet. In confidence, he told me that he is big fan of red colour :)

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:46 am

Grobari_Partizan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Uros,Yes BLUE carpet for me as well please :thumbright: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


No black & white carpet ? :)

Of course :thumbright:

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:48 am

Grobari_Partizan wrote:Mallo asked for red carpet. In confidence, he told me that he is big fan of red colour :)

:lol:Uros I will sort him out now :thumbright:

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:48 pm

Grobari_Partizan wrote:
jtc wrote:the serbs have suffered bad things from the other ex yugoslavs over the years.i got time for the serbs.my dutch mate married a serb girl.they live in zwolle holland.i know she (according to him)has no problem with other ex slavs.


All ex Yu countries suffered. But honestly, when you see happenings from ww1 and ww2, you will know that Serbs suffered too much. After ww1 we need several years to pass to have young people for army. Most of older died it that war. We liberated Croatia and other parts of ex Yu. Only Serbs bleed. And our stupid king didn't make big Serbia, he made Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenians on Serbian bones. In ww2 Croats took nazi side and muslims from bosnia, and of course Albanians from Kosovo and Metohija. About 1 million Serbs died in Ustase's nazi camps in Croatia. We could never forget that. We could forgive but never forget.
Annis posted this link to one our secret fb group. Some lads wrote:
Some heated discussions at the forum my friend, thanks for posting it here...I've had no desire creating account there, as it is rather disappointing to see what bbc and alike media did to UK population during the wars in ex-yugoslavia, and how much injust blame has been put on Serbs and Serbia for defending her own historical lands...All in the midst of fighting IS...But I suppose 'some terrorists are better than others' to the UK government that successfuly turned Serbia from traditional
friend in two big wars to an awful, disgusting enemy...To many of us that's the same as pissing on all fallen soldiers and lost civilians massacred by traditional nazi allies croats, bosnian muslims, albanians, etc...in both world wars...why democratic UK took nazi side in ex-yu conflict is something I could never understand.

....

I've seen that my friend and agree with you...It is just really hard to understand that people can't read history, can't even try to remember who leveled London in WWII, as well as Belgrade and why our two nations were together fighting the same enemy on so many levels...History cannot be erased by anyone...

i know some serbs in my town.some will have passed away now.im nearly 50 .these guys were 50plus when i was a teenager.they worked in the mines.always been good immigrants.always proud of their country but loved the uk.never a problem.the old poles were the same.im sure you have a few loons like every country has.i wasnt impressed by the booing of our black players in the under 21 game though my mate explained it was played in a part of serbia where it is not as up to speed as say belgrade.he said it wouldnt have happened in belgrade as people are used to seeing foriengers .is this correct.?thank you for your reply.i know you stood by the uk in the war.thats why im slow to condem the serbs.they have been great allies of the uk.god bless you and your country

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:51 pm

Grobari_Partizan wrote:
jtc wrote:
Grobari_Partizan wrote:My opinion is that Serbs are totally lost right now. OK most of population. We have our way to EU, we don't ask for price. Some people are expecting, as we like to say, honey and milk if we ever be part of EU. So I think most of people don't think about past and about ex YU countries. Because of that, I cant's say people's opinion. I can say only my opinion.

whats nikola zigic up to?birmingham city legend.love the big man


I am bigger fan of Croats, Albanians... than of Nikola Zigic. He is gypo (nickname for Red Star fan), he used to play for Red Star :)

:laughing6: oh nik-ola zigic :D sunk the villa,changed the game with west ham and terroised the arsenal in the final.carling cup winners 2011.sir nikola take a bow son :D

Re: Better footage of the Drone in Serbia

Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:42 pm

Military Junta wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
ThomasC wrote:UN partitioning of land will always cause problems....Serbia lost Kosovo to UN gangsters


One word 'srebrenica', the UN ganged up on them because of massacres like that and many others FFS


Separate issue, Kosovo is Serbian territory which the Albanians have made their own. Kosovo is in the hands of Albanian gangsters and UN 'peacekeepers'


No its not a separate issue because the they would have been next had the UN not got involved and stop the Serbian march. Would you have preferred they not to block their advances and watch more massacres on our TVs..?


Kosovo is in a worse state with Albanian gangsters and UN 'Peacekeepers.' It is well known the harvest of organs of ethnic Serbs has been going on with UN blessings as nobody has ever been convicted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo


May I ask how old were you then..?


why? haha Albanians making money by cutting out organs and selling abroad, nice people! Not much peacekeeping going on with


known villages dealing in this misery being allowed to exist.

Kosovo is a Serbian territory and always will be. UN have helped to drive out ethnic Serbs and make it an Albanian enclave. Have to go Adam, taking my daughter to the dentist :thumbright: :thumbup:


I tell you why..? because obviously you don't have a clue because you were either too young or not even born.

Firstly how is the 'alleged' organ theft of 300 max ever worse than a factual massacre of 8000 people..?

Also you state 'UN gangsters' yet clearly never heard of the biggest gangster of them all at the time which was a person called Željko Ražnatović otherwise known as 'Arkan'.


I have to say Junta I agree with you 100% on this. I actually had to digest on the web to remind myself just how bad Srebrenica realky was. It would bring tears to the eyes of any sane human being. The Balkans have always been in turmoil, and I have no doubt the Serbs suffered appallingly throughout the centuries from the Ottomans, Muslims, Ustache etc. but I think every h7man being with an ounce of feeling should condemn the horror that took place in that small town. No amount of prior suffering can ever excuse such atrocities. They are crimes against humanity itself. It appalls me some people here are actually sucking up to the Serbs. In the general context they are maybe no worse than others, but this kind of Nationalistic fomented hate should only be condemned totally. Just how different is Srebrenica to what IS are carrying out now?

So before you attempt to re-write history then I would suggest that you look it up beforehand :lol:

Re: Better footage of the Drone in Serbia

Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:45 am

City Slicker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
ThomasC wrote:UN partitioning of land will always cause problems....Serbia lost Kosovo to UN gangsters


One word 'srebrenica', the UN ganged up on them because of massacres like that and many others FFS


Separate issue, Kosovo is Serbian territory which the Albanians have made their own. Kosovo is in the hands of Albanian gangsters and UN 'peacekeepers'


No its not a separate issue because the they would have been next had the UN not got involved and stop the Serbian march. Would you have preferred they not to block their advances and watch more massacres on our TVs..?


Kosovo is in a worse state with Albanian gangsters and UN 'Peacekeepers.' It is well known the harvest of organs of ethnic Serbs has been going on with UN blessings as nobody has ever been convicted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo


May I ask how old were you then..?


why? haha Albanians making money by cutting out organs and selling abroad, nice people! Not much peacekeeping going on with


known villages dealing in this misery being allowed to exist.

Kosovo is a Serbian territory and always will be. UN have helped to drive out ethnic Serbs and make it an Albanian enclave. Have to go Adam, taking my daughter to the dentist :thumbright: :thumbup:


I tell you why..? because obviously you don't have a clue because you were either too young or not even born.

Firstly how is the 'alleged' organ theft of 300 max ever worse than a factual massacre of 8000 people..?

Also you state 'UN gangsters' yet clearly never heard of the biggest gangster of them all at the time which was a person called Željko Ražnatović otherwise known as 'Arkan'.


I have to say Junta I agree with you 100% on this. I actually had to digest on the web to remind myself just how bad Srebrenica realky was. It would bring tears to the eyes of any sane human being. The Balkans have always been in turmoil, and I have no doubt the Serbs suffered appallingly throughout the centuries from the Ottomans, Muslims, Ustache etc. but I think every h7man being with an ounce of feeling should condemn the horror that took place in that small town. No amount of prior suffering can ever excuse such atrocities. They are crimes against humanity itself. It appalls me some people here are actually sucking up to the Serbs. In the general context they are maybe no worse than others, but this kind of Nationalistic fomented hate should only be condemned totally. Just how different is Srebrenica to what IS are carrying out now?

So before you attempt to re-write history then I would suggest that you look it up beforehand :lol:


I know genocide took place in that village. It is not my problem some are unable to seperate different topics due to a lack of understanding.Kosovo is Serbian territory however much you wish to deny the Serbian people this fact. What happened in Yugoslav war is tragic.

Sebrinica is in Bosnia, nothing to do with Albanians in Kosovo province of Serbia

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:42 am

On 17 February 2011, the media obtained a classified document[57] which suggests that the UN knew about the organ trafficking and the criminal involvement of senior KLA commanders as early as 2003. On 20 February 2011, Jose Pablo Baraybar, former UNMIK Forensics and Missing Persons Office head, confirmed that the United Nations was given confidential material about organ trafficking in Kosovo by an anonymous official.[46] The statements, compiled in 30-pages, were made to the UN by at least eight "low to midlevel ranking KLA members".[58] The documents have been given the name "CX-103".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:28 am

Thomas I can only be on here a minute but the many Serbians I am with say you talk sense :thumbright: :thumbright:

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:49 am

Serbian hospitality is immense :bluescarf:

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:54 pm

I've always been interested to know what Belgrade and Serbia was like. On reflection our media have given them a rough ride and we don't have the right image. I think I can hold my hands up and admit I had misconceptions even though I'm fully aware there's good and bad all over the world and I've seen plenty with my own eyes. Amazingly talented football nation, along with bitter rivals Croatia and Bosnia. Incredible they produce so many and sad what has happened there since WW2.

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Sat Oct 18, 2014 9:00 am

I served in kosovo and the serbs committed many war terrible war crimes but the truth again is its the muslims who surprise surprise cant integrate into society ffs wake up adam

Re: ' Better footage of the Drone/Violence in Serbia last ni

Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:09 pm

A good read, the bombing campaign on Serb targets was based around a pack of lies and illegal, ring any bells?

http://theriskyshift.com/2012/09/is-ira ... trial-for/