THAT ISRAELI FLAG [part 2]

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

If you want to see something really disgusting type in "Palestine graphic" or "Palestine children" in a Twitter search and see the results of the past few days.

Even the BBC have proved that the first pic isn't from the current conflict. They take pictures from other countries such as Syria from previous years to try and lie to the world. Again, evil.

And the murder of the Palestinian boy - that was a disgusting act, one that no one in the Jewish or Israeli world is proud of. But whilst Israel condemned that act and sought to find the killers, the Palestinians were dancing and celebrating at the murder of three young Jewish boys.

Israel are not the evil ones so good luck trying to disprove that.

What about the murder of 4 children on the beach? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... nd-account

Again, this was completely condemned by Israel and they say it was a case of misidentification. But whilst Israel condemn these actions and want to find the truth, Hamas celebrate when they kill Israeli children and don't care how or why it happened. They don't care if they kill children

To BluebirdJosh:

I simply wish to say, 'thank you,' for your heartfelt post.

One of the saddest things in life is to see those with the means, virtually all have these days with smartphones and pcs, show their lack of knowledge on serious matters facing us. Just because a person has a pc doesn't make him intelligent. The lack of historical knowledge, let alone biblical knowledge, about this question is frightening. Many would be better advised, rather than show their ignorance, to remain silent. Truth is alwayseven if some shout louder.

Well done bro.

StT.

Completely agree with you there and appreciate that mate

Completely agree with this.Thats why I got so annoyed with that Tonteg muppet.............gets a thought in his head,finds any old bullshit on the internet to support it.To put it another way,they've been at each others throats since god was a boy and neither side can remember who started it.At the moment the jews seem to have the upper hand but it wasn't always that way and for the ignoramuses on here it didn't start with WWII either.

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

If you want to see something really disgusting type in "Palestine graphic" or "Palestine children" in a Twitter search and see the results of the past few days.

Even the BBC have proved that the first pic isn't from the current conflict. They take pictures from other countries such as Syria from previous years to try and lie to the world. Again, evil.

And the murder of the Palestinian boy - that was a disgusting act, one that no one in the Jewish or Israeli world is proud of. But whilst Israel condemned that act and sought to find the killers, the Palestinians were dancing and celebrating at the murder of three young Jewish boys.

Israel are not the evil ones so good luck trying to disprove that.

What about the murder of 4 children on the beach? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... nd-account

Again, this was completely condemned by Israel and they say it was a case of misidentification. But whilst Israel condemn these actions and want to find the truth, Hamas celebrate when they kill Israeli children and don't care how or why it happened. They don't care if they kill children

How can you mix up children with hamas with the quality of the israeli tech?

I thought the Israeli PM(Benjamin Netanyahu) summed it all up when he said "if you were me what would you do and if you are a leader of a nation,what would you do in my position."

Now I ask the same question to all on here.Never mind all the "its their fault bollox" because thats not an answer.If you do know I guarantee you'll get a knighthood at the very least and probably never have to do a days work again.As for me I know enough to keep my trap shut on a subject but not enough to lay blame on either side but at least I know that if you want peace you need both sides to want it.Guess which side doesn't want peace.

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

Ignoring the majority of the facts and giving a one sided version of events.

Why do Hamas shoot rockets at Israel? Because Israel ILLEGALY occupy their land, shoot, kidnap and kill their children. If a Palestinian child is in illegaly occupied territory they will get taken into israel by the IDF and never seen again.

They regularly kill children and families, whom all are innocent, from Palestine.

Yes Hamas do shoot rockets at Israel but the majority of them dont even land in Israel due to the technology Israel posses.

You also say at least Israel fire warning shots. Dont make me laugh, they shoot a dud bomb into Palestine and give you 1 minute to run for your life. Hamas are criminals yes, but I can understand why they do what they do. They have basically been put in an open prison by the Israelis who are causing mass genocide.

f**k Israel. f**k Zionism.

If 'the promised land' (which is based on a fictional book with no factual evidence) was promised to the Jews, then they wouldnt need to bloody fight for it would they, it would be theres. Well it isnt, its the Palestinians.

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

If you want to see something really disgusting type in "Palestine graphic" or "Palestine children" in a Twitter search and see the results of the past few days.

Even the BBC have proved that the first pic isn't from the current conflict. They take pictures from other countries such as Syria from previous years to try and lie to the world. Again, evil.

And the murder of the Palestinian boy - that was a disgusting act, one that no one in the Jewish or Israeli world is proud of. But whilst Israel condemned that act and sought to find the killers, the Palestinians were dancing and celebrating at the murder of three young Jewish boys.

Israel are not the evil ones so good luck trying to disprove that.

What about the murder of 4 children on the beach? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... nd-account

Again, this was completely condemned by Israel and they say it was a case of misidentification. But whilst Israel condemn these actions and want to find the truth, Hamas celebrate when they kill Israeli children and don't care how or why it happened. They don't care if they kill children

How can you mix up children with hamas with the quality of the israeli tech?

soldiers all over the world still get killed by friendly fire.............how?....it shouldnt happen but does.

I thought the Israeli PM(Benjamin Netanyahu) summed it all up when he said "if you were me what would you do and if you are a leader of a nation,what would you do in my position."

Now I ask the same question to all on here.Never mind all the "its their fault bollox" because thats not an answer.If you do know I guarantee you'll get a knighthood at the very least and probably never have to do a days work again.As for me I know enough to keep my trap shut on a subject but not enough to lay blame on either side but at least I know that if you want peace you need both sides to want it.Guess which side doesn't want peace.

I would start by giving the Palestinian their land back and telling anyone who lives on illegal occupied land to move out.

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

If you want to see something really disgusting type in "Palestine graphic" or "Palestine children" in a Twitter search and see the results of the past few days.

Even the BBC have proved that the first pic isn't from the current conflict. They take pictures from other countries such as Syria from previous years to try and lie to the world. Again, evil.

And the murder of the Palestinian boy - that was a disgusting act, one that no one in the Jewish or Israeli world is proud of. But whilst Israel condemned that act and sought to find the killers, the Palestinians were dancing and celebrating at the murder of three young Jewish boys.

Israel are not the evil ones so good luck trying to disprove that.

What about the murder of 4 children on the beach? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... nd-account

Again, this was completely condemned by Israel and they say it was a case of misidentification. But whilst Israel condemn these actions and want to find the truth, Hamas celebrate when they kill Israeli children and don't care how or why it happened. They don't care if they kill children

How can you mix up children with hamas with the quality of the israeli tech?

soldiers all over the world still get killed by friendly fire.............how?....it shouldnt happen but does.

soldiers eyes are different to the video technology that israel has, not to mention children are about half the size of men.

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

If you want to see something really disgusting type in "Palestine graphic" or "Palestine children" in a Twitter search and see the results of the past few days.

Even the BBC have proved that the first pic isn't from the current conflict. They take pictures from other countries such as Syria from previous years to try and lie to the world. Again, evil.

And the murder of the Palestinian boy - that was a disgusting act, one that no one in the Jewish or Israeli world is proud of. But whilst Israel condemned that act and sought to find the killers, the Palestinians were dancing and celebrating at the murder of three young Jewish boys.

Israel are not the evil ones so good luck trying to disprove that.

What about the murder of 4 children on the beach? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... nd-account

Again, this was completely condemned by Israel and they say it was a case of misidentification. But whilst Israel condemn these actions and want to find the truth, Hamas celebrate when they kill Israeli children and don't care how or why it happened. They don't care if they kill children

How can you mix up children with hamas with the quality of the israeli tech?

soldiers all over the world still get killed by friendly fire.............how?....it shouldnt happen but does.

soldiers eyes are different to the video technology that israel has, not to mention children are about half the size of men.

dafter and dafter..............what have soldiers eyes got to do with it.......most friendly fires incidents involve planes

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

If you want to see something really disgusting type in "Palestine graphic" or "Palestine children" in a Twitter search and see the results of the past few days.

Even the BBC have proved that the first pic isn't from the current conflict. They take pictures from other countries such as Syria from previous years to try and lie to the world. Again, evil.

And the murder of the Palestinian boy - that was a disgusting act, one that no one in the Jewish or Israeli world is proud of. But whilst Israel condemned that act and sought to find the killers, the Palestinians were dancing and celebrating at the murder of three young Jewish boys.

Israel are not the evil ones so good luck trying to disprove that.

What about the murder of 4 children on the beach? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... nd-account

Again, this was completely condemned by Israel and they say it was a case of misidentification. But whilst Israel condemn these actions and want to find the truth, Hamas celebrate when they kill Israeli children and don't care how or why it happened. They don't care if they kill children

How can you mix up children with hamas with the quality of the israeli tech?

soldiers all over the world still get killed by friendly fire.............how?....it shouldnt happen but does.

soldiers eyes are different to the video technology that israel has, not to mention children are about half the size of men.

dafter and dafter..............what have soldiers eyes got to do with it.......most friendly fires incidents involve planes

It's not friendly fire though is it. It is genocide.

I thought the Israeli PM(Benjamin Netanyahu) summed it all up when he said "if you were me what would you do and if you are a leader of a nation,what would you do in my position."

Now I ask the same question to all on here.Never mind all the "its their fault bollox" because thats not an answer.If you do know I guarantee you'll get a knighthood at the very least and probably never have to do a days work again.As for me I know enough to keep my trap shut on a subject but not enough to lay blame on either side but at least I know that if you want peace you need both sides to want it.Guess which side doesn't want peace.

I would start by giving the Palestinian their land back and telling anyone who lives on illegal occupied land to move out.

Ok,lets say for a minute you knew what was legal and what wasn't(I don't think anyone living does and that in itself would be the study of several lifetimes) and the Israeli's agreed to this how would you then get Hammas to stop firing rockets?

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

If you want to see something really disgusting type in "Palestine graphic" or "Palestine children" in a Twitter search and see the results of the past few days.

Even the BBC have proved that the first pic isn't from the current conflict. They take pictures from other countries such as Syria from previous years to try and lie to the world. Again, evil.

And the murder of the Palestinian boy - that was a disgusting act, one that no one in the Jewish or Israeli world is proud of. But whilst Israel condemned that act and sought to find the killers, the Palestinians were dancing and celebrating at the murder of three young Jewish boys.

Israel are not the evil ones so good luck trying to disprove that.

What about the murder of 4 children on the beach? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... nd-account

Again, this was completely condemned by Israel and they say it was a case of misidentification. But whilst Israel condemn these actions and want to find the truth, Hamas celebrate when they kill Israeli children and don't care how or why it happened. They don't care if they kill children

How can you mix up children with hamas with the quality of the israeli tech?

soldiers all over the world still get killed by friendly fire.............how?....it shouldnt happen but does.

soldiers eyes are different to the video technology that israel has, not to mention children are about half the size of men.

dafter and dafter..............what have soldiers eyes got to do with it.......most friendly fires incidents involve planes

It's not friendly fire though is it. It is genocide.

if you think this is genocide i suggest you visit a library,,google it..or pic up a dictionary instead of just copy words said by fools

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

If you want to see something really disgusting type in "Palestine graphic" or "Palestine children" in a Twitter search and see the results of the past few days.

Even the BBC have proved that the first pic isn't from the current conflict. They take pictures from other countries such as Syria from previous years to try and lie to the world. Again, evil.

And the murder of the Palestinian boy - that was a disgusting act, one that no one in the Jewish or Israeli world is proud of. But whilst Israel condemned that act and sought to find the killers, the Palestinians were dancing and celebrating at the murder of three young Jewish boys.

Israel are not the evil ones so good luck trying to disprove that.

What about the murder of 4 children on the beach? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... nd-account

Again, this was completely condemned by Israel and they say it was a case of misidentification. But whilst Israel condemn these actions and want to find the truth, Hamas celebrate when they kill Israeli children and don't care how or why it happened. They don't care if they kill children

How can you mix up children with hamas with the quality of the israeli tech?

soldiers all over the world still get killed by friendly fire.............how?....it shouldnt happen but does.

soldiers eyes are different to the video technology that israel has, not to mention children are about half the size of men.

dafter and dafter..............what have soldiers eyes got to do with it.......most friendly fires incidents involve planes

Friendly fire comes from the ground and above. It's also easier to tell the difference between men and children as opposed to men and other men. They shouldn't have been shooting anyway. What about http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/m ... eli-forces

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life[/quote]

If you want to see something really disgusting type in "Palestine graphic" or "Palestine children" in a Twitter search and see the results of the past few days.[/quote]

Even the BBC have proved that the first pic isn't from the current conflict. They take pictures from other countries such as Syria from previous years to try and lie to the world. Again, evil.

And the murder of the Palestinian boy - that was a disgusting act, one that no one in the Jewish or Israeli world is proud of. But whilst Israel condemned that act and sought to find the killers, the Palestinians were dancing and celebrating at the murder of three young Jewish boys.

Israel are not the evil ones so good luck trying to disprove that.[/quote]
What about the murder of 4 children on the beach? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... nd-account[/quote]

Again, this was completely condemned by Israel and they say it was a case of misidentification. But whilst Israel condemn these actions and want to find the truth, Hamas celebrate when they kill Israeli children and don't care how or why it happened. They don't care if they kill children[/quote]
How can you mix up children with hamas with the quality of the israeli tech?[/quote]

soldiers all over the world still get killed by friendly fire.............how?....it shouldnt happen but does.[/quote]
soldiers eyes are different to the video technology that israel has, not to mention children are about half the size of men.[/quote]
dafter and dafter..............what have soldiers eyes got to do with it.......most friendly fires incidents involve planes[/quote]

It's not friendly fire though is it. It is genocide.[/quote]

if you think this is genocide i suggest you visit a library,,google it..or pic up a dictionary instead of just copy words said by fools[/quote]
Genocide - the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.
Do you not think that's what's happening?

quote="simon.wiesenthal"]

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

If you want to see something really disgusting type in "Palestine graphic" or "Palestine children" in a Twitter search and see the results of the past few days.

Even the BBC have proved that the first pic isn't from the current conflict. They take pictures from other countries such as Syria from previous years to try and lie to the world. Again, evil.

And the murder of the Palestinian boy - that was a disgusting act, one that no one in the Jewish or Israeli world is proud of. But whilst Israel condemned that act and sought to find the killers, the Palestinians were dancing and celebrating at the murder of three young Jewish boys.

Israel are not the evil ones so good luck trying to disprove that.

What about the murder of 4 children on the beach? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... nd-account

Again, this was completely condemned by Israel and they say it was a case of misidentification. But whilst Israel condemn these actions and want to find the truth, Hamas celebrate when they kill Israeli children and don't care how or why it happened. They don't care if they kill children

How can you mix up children with hamas with the quality of the israeli tech?

soldiers all over the world still get killed by friendly fire.............how?....it shouldnt happen but does.

soldiers eyes are different to the video technology that israel has, not to mention children are about half the size of men.

dafter and dafter..............what have soldiers eyes got to do with it.......most friendly fires incidents involve planes

It's not friendly fire though is it. It is genocide.

if you think this is genocide i suggest you visit a library,,google it..or pic up a dictionary instead of just copy words said by fools[/quote]

Almost all of the deaths are of Palestinian lives. These Palestinians are locked in Gaza like cattle and have nowhere to escape and the Israelis have attacked them from the ground and the sky.

Death just falls from the sky in gaza and there is nothing they can do. The people living in occupied Palestine want the Arabs and Palestinians gone. They are trying to remove them by killing them. That is genocide.

I have nothing against Jews - but zionists are total scum bags.

if us welsh decided england had no right to exist ...england being bigger,richer,more powerful.

would i ,if in charge order misile attacks from cardiff/newport, knowing the outcome would be dead welsh kids but great media coverage...

NO............BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF YOU THAT WOULD.....

its horrific a disgrace.........and well thought out.................my family and friends are precious.
i cant even imagine living by the code......WE LOVE DEATH MORE THAN YOU LOVE LIFE { HAMAS } especially when you extend loving death to your children.............its sick........and those that agree are f*cking sick too

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

Ignoring the majority of the facts and giving a one sided version of events.

Why do Hamas shoot rockets at Israel? Because Israel ILLEGALY occupy their land, shoot, kidnap and kill their children. If a Palestinian child is in illegaly occupied territory they will get taken into israel by the IDF and never seen again.

They regularly kill children and families, whom all are innocent, from Palestine.

Yes Hamas do shoot rockets at Israel but the majority of them dont even land in Israel due to the technology Israel posses.

You also say at least Israel fire warning shots. Dont make me laugh, they shoot a dud bomb into Palestine and give you 1 minute to run for your life. Hamas are criminals yes, but I can understand why they do what they do. They have basically been put in an open prison by the Israelis who are causing mass genocide.

f**k Israel. f**k Zionism.

If 'the promised land' (which is based on a fictional book with no factual evidence) was promised to the Jews, then they wouldnt need to bloody fight for it would they, it would be theres. Well it isnt, its the Palestinians.

Never heard such rubbish in my entire life. When have the IDF kidnapped innocent children?? And as for the warnings, Israel drop thousands of leaflets down to areas they intend to strike and give more than enough time for civilians to leave. But Hamas use their civilians as human shields - they tell them to stay. They're the ones killing innocent families, not the IDF.

Israel have set up field hospitals on the border with Gaza to treat wounded Palestinians. They don't want to be hurting civilians, they want to be saving them.

And I really wouldn't start the Biblical argument is I was you as I'm pretty certain you don't have a vast amount of knowledge in that topic.

if us welsh decided england had no right to exist ...england being bigger,richer,more powerful.

would i ,if in charge order misile attacks from cardiff/newport, knowing the outcome would be dead welsh kids but great media coverage...

NO............BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF YOU THAT WOULD.....

its horrific a disgrace.........and well thought out.................my family and friends are precious.
i cant even imagine living by the code......WE LOVE DEATH MORE THAN YOU LOVE LIFE { HAMAS } especially when you extend loving death to your children.............its sick........and those that agree are f*cking sick too

That's not the reason Palestine are attacking israel though is it? If england were occupying Wales and constantly building more and more settlements then yes I would.

if us welsh decided england had no right to exist ...england being bigger,richer,more powerful.

would i ,if in charge order misile attacks from cardiff/newport, knowing the outcome would be dead welsh kids but great media coverage...

NO............BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF YOU THAT WOULD.....

its horrific a disgrace.........and well thought out.................my family and friends are precious.
i cant even imagine living by the code......WE LOVE DEATH MORE THAN YOU LOVE LIFE { HAMAS } especially when you extend loving death to your children.............its sick........and those that agree are f*cking sick too

No.

If a book said "wales belongs to England" despite no English people living here for centuries and generations and then England decided to come here, kick us out of our homes and force us to live in an area where we cannot get in nor out and also cannot get food, aid etc. in our out. Then it would be the same...

If you do research you will see the zionists living in occupied Palestine want the Arabs dead. If an Arab goes into their area, they will kill them as they believe they are guilty just for being Arabic.

https://news.vice.com/video/rockets-and ... vicenewsfb

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

Ignoring the majority of the facts and giving a one sided version of events.

Why do Hamas shoot rockets at Israel? Because Israel ILLEGALY occupy their land, shoot, kidnap and kill their children. If a Palestinian child is in illegaly occupied territory they will get taken into israel by the IDF and never seen again.

They regularly kill children and families, whom all are innocent, from Palestine.

Yes Hamas do shoot rockets at Israel but the majority of them dont even land in Israel due to the technology Israel posses.

You also say at least Israel fire warning shots. Dont make me laugh, they shoot a dud bomb into Palestine and give you 1 minute to run for your life. Hamas are criminals yes, but I can understand why they do what they do. They have basically been put in an open prison by the Israelis who are causing mass genocide.

f**k Israel. f**k Zionism.

If 'the promised land' (which is based on a fictional book with no factual evidence) was promised to the Jews, then they wouldnt need to bloody fight for it would they, it would be theres. Well it isnt, its the Palestinians.

Never heard such rubbish in my entire life. When have the IDF kidnapped innocent children?? And as for the warnings, Israel drop thousands of leaflets down to areas they intend to strike and give more than enough time for civilians to leave. But Hamas use their civilians as human shields - they tell them to stay. They're the ones killing innocent families, not the IDF.

Israel have set up field hospitals on the border with Gaza to treat wounded Palestinians. They don't want to be hurting civilians, they want to be saving them.

And I really wouldn't start the Biblical argument is I was you as I'm pretty certain you don't have a vast amount of knowledge in that topic.

It was yesterday Israel blew up a hospital in Palestine. Yes a hospital. Where innocent blameless victims of this tragedy go for treatment.

They also killed a man yesterday who was searching for his dead family in the rubble of a blown up building.

https://news.vice.com/article/cellphone ... vicenewsfb

if us welsh decided england had no right to exist ...england being bigger,richer,more powerful.

would i ,if in charge order misile attacks from cardiff/newport, knowing the outcome would be dead welsh kids but great media coverage...

NO............BUT THERE ARE LOTS OF YOU THAT WOULD.....

its horrific a disgrace.........and well thought out.................my family and friends are precious.
i cant even imagine living by the code......WE LOVE DEATH MORE THAN YOU LOVE LIFE { HAMAS } especially when you extend loving death to your children.............its sick........and those that agree are f*cking sick too

No.

If a book said "wales belongs to England" despite no English people living here

I'll stop you there,if you apply this argument to the middle east you'll find its wrong.Jews have lived there for hundreds of years.........................................................................and I'm still waiting for an answer to my last question.

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

Ignoring the majority of the facts and giving a one sided version of events.

Why do Hamas shoot rockets at Israel? Because Israel ILLEGALY occupy their land, shoot, kidnap and kill their children. If a Palestinian child is in illegaly occupied territory they will get taken into israel by the IDF and never seen again.

They regularly kill children and families, whom all are innocent, from Palestine.

Yes Hamas do shoot rockets at Israel but the majority of them dont even land in Israel due to the technology Israel posses.

You also say at least Israel fire warning shots. Dont make me laugh, they shoot a dud bomb into Palestine and give you 1 minute to run for your life. Hamas are criminals yes, but I can understand why they do what they do. They have basically been put in an open prison by the Israelis who are causing mass genocide.

f**k Israel. f**k Zionism.

If 'the promised land' (which is based on a fictional book with no factual evidence) was promised to the Jews, then they wouldnt need to bloody fight for it would they, it would be theres. Well it isnt, its the Palestinians.

Never heard such rubbish in my entire life. When have the IDF kidnapped innocent children?? And as for the warnings, Israel drop thousands of leaflets down to areas they intend to strike and give more than enough time for civilians to leave. But Hamas use their civilians as human shields - they tell them to stay. They're the ones killing innocent families, not the IDF.

Israel have set up field hospitals on the border with Gaza to treat wounded Palestinians. They don't want to be hurting civilians, they want to be saving them.

And I really wouldn't start the Biblical argument is I was you as I'm pretty certain you don't have a vast amount of knowledge in that topic.

It was yesterday Israel blew up a hospital in Palestine. Yes a hospital. Where innocent blameless victims of this tragedy go for treatment.

They also killed a man yesterday who was searching for his dead family in the rubble of a blown up building.

https://news.vice.com/article/cellphone ... vicenewsfb

Why did the IDF hit a hospital? Because Hamas hide their rockets within hospitals. Hamas terrorists use hospitals as hiding places. They don't care about the risk they place their civilians in. Instead of building bomb shelters, they build tunnels for their terrorists to enter Israel to carry out terror attacks.

And what about the 3 teenage Jewish boys who were kidnapped and murdered which started this whole conflict? That was needless and totally inexcusable. There is no humane explanation to kidnapping 3 boys off the street and murdering them in cold blood.

I thought the Israeli PM(Benjamin Netanyahu) summed it all up when he said "if you were me what would you do and if you are a leader of a nation,what would you do in my position."

Now I ask the same question to all on here.Never mind all the "its their fault bollox" because thats not an answer.If you do know I guarantee you'll get a knighthood at the very least and probably never have to do a days work again.As for me I know enough to keep my trap shut on a subject but not enough to lay blame on either side but at least I know that if you want peace you need both sides to want it.Guess which side doesn't want peace.

I would start by giving the Palestinian their land back and telling anyone who lives on illegal occupied land to move out.

They did that in 2005. Guess who broke the ceasefire? Hamas.

Up the Israelis! We should take their lead and bomb the hell out of those rebels in eastern Ukraine, that killed 10 brits! Imagine if Cardiff was under fire from rockets on a daily basis! How would you want the government to respond?

I've finally found someone who's more mental thane on here !!!

in all fairness Adam.........your not even close here, that arrow fella is way ahead of you too.........

All I have done is say that calling someone a loon for having a different opinion is wrong. Only a commie or fascist would disagree. I don't agree with a lot of what Tonteg said as I already said in an earlier post but that does not give me the right to try and slander him and call him things. All it looks like is cheap pot shorting to me from people who do not wish to debate in a fair fashion.

If you think me being open minded and accepting another human being may have a different opinion on a subject makes me a loon then fair enough. I'm proud I'm not a fascist or commie in attitude trying to control things and make people do as I want.

People are people. Black, white, jewish, Muslim, Sikh, British, French or Australian - it doesn't matter to me and I'll always judge the individual. There are good and bad people in all walks of life so it doesn't matter.

If the Jews own a large proportion of the companies related to the media as they do and its proven so what? Honestly so what? This evil stuff went on long before media went big. The Romans, the Saxons, the Vikings, the Ming dynasty, the Soviet Union etc. - evil people will exist regardless. Was Hitler spreading propaganda on Fox or in the Wall Street Journal? No.

Life is too short to hate. Live and let live IMO and stop getting stressed about people having a difference of opinion.