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Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:10 am

RoathMagic wrote:
scott_w_ccfc wrote:It's hard to guess something that doesn't exist because you could just make it up. :lol:

I've only seen you mention properties, so I'm guessing you say that it's something to do with that. :D


Well then if you dont think it exists then the conversation is futile scotty lad :D

(Although you could have made that name up ;) )

Let's put any stupid pointless debates aside for one second, if you will?

The odd thing about you is that, having for a long time read your ramblings without replying, you are clearly capable of intelligent debate about football when you want to, which is something which would is severely lacking on this forum at times. Most things you say on the rebrand, for example, I tend to agree with.

So why do you then resort to winding people up and what (surely even you can see) can be construed as attention seeking with posts like this, and that video where you, for example, filmed yourself "reading" a newspaper which you had wrote saying something like "Swansea remain in Premier League for fourth season", and having the camera focus on the Premier League badge?

If you are this intelligent businessman which you claim to be, why don't you just act like one and sit here and have proper football debates with those who want to instead of making threads about yourself?

I would prefer if you take all this as genuine questions rather than insults.

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:10 am

RoathMagic wrote:
Green Arrow wrote:If you wanted to see an ex criminal you should have waited around TESCO in St Mellon's late at night. Bound to be a few hanging around.

Why people get obsessed over this sort of stuff I don't know. The guy is a scumbag and if you're honoured to meet him it shamefully says a lot about your character.


He is a brilliant man with an incredible business mind. My respect for the man has nothing to do with the morality of his dealings but indeed the enterprise behind the dealings themselves. Very much like Vincent Tan although he isnt in the same league as Jordan in the innovation stakes. :thumbright:

Bit of a silly post there James, thought you were past all that. :roll:

Just can't believe you look up to a guy like this when there are many other businessmen out there to look up to.

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:12 am

AlwaysBBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Jordan who? ahhh well like said before only post things cannot be proved? guess this comes into that category! same old roathy full of bull ++++! :thumbup:


im not gonna say he's a liar (because who would lie about something that impresses no one) but whether its true or not, to come on an MB (of any team) to brag about it, and assume people care by asking them to guess is really sad.

im one of the few who really like roathie as a poster but this thread has me cringing all over the place


You can say it doesnt impress you, sure. But to suggest nobody would be interested is just silly, there will be countless people reading this who are very interested indeed. Depends what your interests are.

What makes me cringe is people getting offended, which clearly is the case regardless of what is said :laughing6:

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:13 am

RoathMagic wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Jordan who? ahhh well like said before only post things cannot be proved? guess this comes into that category! same old roathy full of bull ++++! :thumbup:


Full of bull? Can you prove that? Or do you not realise the irony there :D

Jealousy gets your nowhere big Al :thumbright:

Oh and its Jordan Belfort, ask Lionardo Di caprio :thumbup:


I think I've misplaced his number, any chance you could give it to me?

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:15 am

Green Arrow wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
Green Arrow wrote:If you wanted to see an ex criminal you should have waited around TESCO in St Mellon's late at night. Bound to be a few hanging around.

Why people get obsessed over this sort of stuff I don't know. The guy is a scumbag and if you're honoured to meet him it shamefully says a lot about your character.


He is a brilliant man with an incredible business mind. My respect for the man has nothing to do with the morality of his dealings but indeed the enterprise behind the dealings themselves. Very much like Vincent Tan although he isnt in the same league as Jordan in the innovation stakes. :thumbright:

Bit of a silly post there James, thought you were past all that. :roll:

Just can't believe you look up to a guy like this when there are many other businessmen out there to look up to.


There are lots of businessmen I respect. Belfort is undoubtedly one of them and is respected on a business level the world over. He came from nothing and was making $50m a year in his early twenties i believe. Complete innovation.

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:17 am

RoathMagic wrote:
AlwaysBBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Jordan who? ahhh well like said before only post things cannot be proved? guess this comes into that category! same old roathy full of bull ++++! :thumbup:


im not gonna say he's a liar (because who would lie about something that impresses no one) but whether its true or not, to come on an MB (of any team) to brag about it, and assume people care by asking them to guess is really sad.

im one of the few who really like roathie as a poster but this thread has me cringing all over the place


You can say it doesnt impress you, sure. But to suggest nobody would be interested is just silly, there will be countless people reading this who are very interested indeed. Depends what your interests are.

What makes me cringe is people getting offended, which clearly is the case regardless of what is said :laughing6:


no i'm not offended. and clearly people are more interested in assasinating your character than the actual content of your post.

this has turned to a 3 pager and without doing that math about 90% of these posts are questioning/mocking you and about 1 or 2 people have actually responded to the person in question.

its like scott said; you're such a good poster when you want to be, i really like debating with you, but stuff like this is just embarrasing.

but then i'm a humble person.

congratulations again, hopefully telling a bunch of strangers half way across the world has validated the achievment for you

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:18 am

Two phonies together that's about right

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:21 am

scott_w_ccfc wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
scott_w_ccfc wrote:It's hard to guess something that doesn't exist because you could just make it up. :lol:

I've only seen you mention properties, so I'm guessing you say that it's something to do with that. :D


Well then if you dont think it exists then the conversation is futile scotty lad :D

(Although you could have made that name up ;) )

Let's put any stupid pointless debates aside for one second, if you will?

always, i only partake and certainly dont instigate them :thumbright:

The odd thing about you is that, having for a long time read your ramblings without replying, you are clearly capable of intelligent debate about football when you want to, which is something which would is severely lacking on this forum at times. Most things you say on the rebrand, for example, I tend to agree with.

good stuff.

So why do you then resort to winding people up and what (surely even you can see) can be construed as attention seeking with posts like this, and that video where you, for example, filmed yourself "reading" a newspaper which you had wrote saying something like "Swansea remain in Premier League for fourth season", and having the camera focus on the Premier League badge?

what you are referring to there is humour. Can you seriously tell me you were wound up by it? If so then i suggest the internet isnt for you Scott :D as for threads like this, i genuinely think some will be interested, hardly offensive is it, i rarely reveal anything about myself without being asked or berated.

If you are this intelligent businessman which you claim to be, why don't you just act like one and sit here and have proper football debates with those who want to instead of making threads about yourself?

i dont claim to be either. I am a businessman, intelligence is subjective. Always happy to discuss sensibly, however the last time i did that with you you decided to make up a fake opinion and then admit you were trolling me :laughing6:

I would prefer if you take all this as genuine questions rather than insults.

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:27 am

AlwaysBBlue wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
AlwaysBBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Jordan who? ahhh well like said before only post things cannot be proved? guess this comes into that category! same old roathy full of bull ++++! :thumbup:


im not gonna say he's a liar (because who would lie about something that impresses no one) but whether its true or not, to come on an MB (of any team) to brag about it, and assume people care by asking them to guess is really sad.

im one of the few who really like roathie as a poster but this thread has me cringing all over the place


You can say it doesnt impress you, sure. But to suggest nobody would be interested is just silly, there will be countless people reading this who are very interested indeed. Depends what your interests are.

What makes me cringe is people getting offended, which clearly is the case regardless of what is said :laughing6:


no i'm not offended. and clearly people are more interested in assasinating your character than the actual content of your post.

not at all, people dont know me so cannot comment on my character. There is a reason debates get changed to attempted insults and thats because they dont like the matter being discussed. Look at the boy from One Direction for example, he took over Doncaster and everyone wanted to slag him off. There is a reason for that, some dislike success.

this has turned to a 3 pager and without doing that math about 90% of these posts are questioning/mocking you and about 1 or 2 people have actually responded to the person in question.

the people you refer to are ones that follow me around doing this regardless, i could have posted about birdseed and the Roathie fans would arrive with their silliness. Part and parcel of being a forum celebrity :thumbright:

its like scott said; you're such a good poster when you want to be, i really like debating with you, but stuff like this is just embarrasing.

so im never allowed to say anything interesting thats happened to me incase people get jealous? Sorry mate but i post for me and if i wish to share something then i will. As you have said, some will be interested so the question is why are those that claim not be posting on it? Hmmm, as annis would say :D

but then i'm a humble person.

congratulations again, hopefully telling a bunch of strangers half way across the world has validated the achievment for you

thank you very much. Nothing needed validating im well aware of the prestige, im just sharing it with people with similar interests who would indeed enjoy the post. If this offends those who dislike success then that isnt my concern :thumbup:

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:31 am

Great update. :ayatollah:

You're cool. :thumbup:

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:32 am

griff105 wrote:Great update. :ayatollah:

You're cool. :thumbup:


You think so? Thanks matey :thumbright:

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:35 am

RoathMagic wrote:
AlwaysBBlue wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
AlwaysBBlue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Jordan who? ahhh well like said before only post things cannot be proved? guess this comes into that category! same old roathy full of bull ++++! :thumbup:


im not gonna say he's a liar (because who would lie about something that impresses no one) but whether its true or not, to come on an MB (of any team) to brag about it, and assume people care by asking them to guess is really sad.

im one of the few who really like roathie as a poster but this thread has me cringing all over the place


You can say it doesnt impress you, sure. But to suggest nobody would be interested is just silly, there will be countless people reading this who are very interested indeed. Depends what your interests are.

What makes me cringe is people getting offended, which clearly is the case regardless of what is said :laughing6:


no i'm not offended. and clearly people are more interested in assasinating your character than the actual content of your post.

not at all, people dont know me so cannot comment on my character. There is a reason debates get changed to attempted insults and thats because they dont like the matter being discussed. Look at the boy from One Direction for example, he took over Doncaster and everyone wanted to slag him off. There is a reason for that, some dislike success.

this has turned to a 3 pager and without doing that math about 90% of these posts are questioning/mocking you and about 1 or 2 people have actually responded to the person in question.

the people you refer to are ones that follow me around doing this regardless, i could have posted about birdseed and the Roathie fans would arrive with their silliness. Part and parcel of being a forum celebrity :thumbright:

its like scott said; you're such a good poster when you want to be, i really like debating with you, but stuff like this is just embarrasing.

so im never allowed to say anything interesting thats happened to me incase people get jealous? Sorry mate but i post for me and if i wish to share something then i will. As you have said, some will be interested so the question is why are those that claim not be posting on it? Hmmm, as annis would say :D

but then i'm a humble person.

congratulations again, hopefully telling a bunch of strangers half way across the world has validated the achievment for you

thank you very much. Nothing needed validating im well aware of the prestige, im just sharing it with people with similar interests who would indeed enjoy the post. If this offends those who dislike success then that isnt my concern :thumbup:



Wow...just wow.

You've shared this for attention, good or bad, there's no other explanation. Like I said it might just be me, doing something like this is something I'd consider a little classless, like posting a picture of your bank balance for no reason or something like that, so maybe that's why I don't get it.

But these assumptions off offence and jealousy are truly embarrassing. I have plenty to be proud of, but I only share them with those close to me as the approval of strangers is something I don't need. Again, each to their own.

Let me know when we're talking footie again lol

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:38 am

RoathMagic wrote:
griff105 wrote:Great update. :ayatollah:

You're cool. :thumbup:


You think so? Thanks matey :thumbright:


No worries. I'm looking forward to the next one.
Maybe you should start your own forum, exclusively for Roathy updates, 'should we ban Roathy' polls and the such.

Think of the exposure! :thumbup:

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:40 am

griff105 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
griff105 wrote:Great update. :ayatollah:

You're cool. :thumbup:


You think so? Thanks matey :thumbright:


No worries. I'm looking forward to the next one.
Maybe you should start your own forum, exclusively for Roathy updates, 'should we ban Roathy' polls and the such.

Think of the exposure! :thumbup:


new poll!

IS ROATHIE:

RIGHT ALL THE TIME
A GOD AMONGST MEN

should be a close vote

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:41 am

AlwaysBBlue wrote:
griff105 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
griff105 wrote:Great update. :ayatollah:

You're cool. :thumbup:


You think so? Thanks matey :thumbright:


No worries. I'm looking forward to the next one.
Maybe you should start your own forum, exclusively for Roathy updates, 'should we ban Roathy' polls and the such.

Think of the exposure! :thumbup:


new poll!

IS ROATHIE:

RIGHT ALL THE TIME
A GOD AMONGST MEN

should be a close vote


Can i vote twice please?

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:42 am

griff105 wrote:
AlwaysBBlue wrote:
griff105 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
griff105 wrote:Great update. :ayatollah:

You're cool. :thumbup:


You think so? Thanks matey :thumbright:


No worries. I'm looking forward to the next one.
Maybe you should start your own forum, exclusively for Roathy updates, 'should we ban Roathy' polls and the such.

Think of the exposure! :thumbup:


new poll!

IS ROATHIE:

RIGHT ALL THE TIME
A GOD AMONGST MEN

should be a close vote


Can i vote twice please?


youd have to ask roathie...u got your prayer mat?

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:43 am

AlwaysBBlue wrote:

Wow...just wow.

You've shared this for attention, good or bad, there's no other explanation. Like I said it might just be me, doing something like this is something I'd consider a little classless, like posting a picture of your bank balance for no reason or something like that, so maybe that's why I don't get it.

But these assumptions off offence and jealousy are truly embarrassing. I have plenty to be proud of, but I only share them with those close to me as the approval of strangers is something I don't need. Again, each to their own.

Let me know when we're talking footie again lol


What is wow about that? Its perfect sense. My private life is a hot topic on here when discussed amongst others, yet when i give some info about an even many many people would be interested in then its not allowed? Dont talk wet. The only people who could possibly take offence by this is those that dislike success. How you can compare it to posting a picture of my bank balance for no reason is just amazing really :D

Ive not shared it for attention at all. Ive shared it because it is interesting. You could say you have replied for attention, you post here for attention, your avatar is for attention. Good interesting posts get attention and thats what I offer. Gareth Bale gets attention because he is a good footballer, but hes not a good footballer in order to get attention - and thats the difference :thumbup:

You can be embarrassed all you like but what i am stating is fact and a human phenomenon that is seen daily, and commonly the world over. If someone posted on here that they dont have much money then there would be no offence, if someone posted saying they had lots then they would be attacked. People dislike success. There is nothing offensive about this post at all and ive known many posters here for 3 years, id think it strange not to share such an honour.

However to people that are resenting of success this will indeed stick in the throat, some may even disguise it as "embarrassment" mentioning no names or pointing no fingers of course :D

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:45 am

griff105 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
griff105 wrote:Great update. :ayatollah:

You're cool. :thumbup:


You think so? Thanks matey :thumbright:


No worries. I'm looking forward to the next one.
Maybe you should start your own forum, exclusively for Roathy updates, 'should we ban Roathy' polls and the such.

Think of the exposure! :thumbup:


Very interesting concept, ill take it on board. Im am undoubtedly a favourite subject on here. Ill keep you updated, no pun intended.

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:52 am

RoathMagic wrote:
AlwaysBBlue wrote:

Wow...just wow.

You've shared this for attention, good or bad, there's no other explanation. Like I said it might just be me, doing something like this is something I'd consider a little classless, like posting a picture of your bank balance for no reason or something like that, so maybe that's why I don't get it.

But these assumptions off offence and jealousy are truly embarrassing. I have plenty to be proud of, but I only share them with those close to me as the approval of strangers is something I don't need. Again, each to their own.

Let me know when we're talking footie again lol


What is wow about that? Its perfect sense. My private life is a hot topic on here when discussed amongst others, yet when i give some info about an even many many people would be interested in then its not allowed? Dont talk wet. The only people who could possibly take offence by this is those that dislike success. How you can compare it to posting a picture of my bank balance for no reason is just amazing really :D

Ive not shared it for attention at all. Ive shared it because it is interesting. You could say you have replied for attention, you post here for attention, your avatar is for attention. Good interesting posts get attention and thats what I offer. Gareth Bale gets attention because he is a good footballer, but hes not a good footballer in order to get attention - and thats the difference :thumbup:

You can be embarrassed all you like but what i am stating is fact and a human phenomenon that is seen daily, and commonly the world over. If someone posted on here that they dont have much money then there would be no offence, if someone posted saying they had lots then they would be attacked. People dislike success. There is nothing offensive about this post at all and ive known many posters here for 3 years, id think it strange not to share such an honour.

However to people that are resenting of success this will indeed stick in the throat, some may even disguise it as "embarrassment" mentioning no names or pointing no fingers of course :D


once again, not offended. please stop assuming.

nor did i say it wasn't allowed. its perfectly allowed, and i'm allowed to offer my opinion. by asking people to guess you are essentially asking people if they care. the amount of serious responses actually offering a realistic guess should have answered your question.

i dont hate success, im rather successful in my own field. which itself lets me 'rub elbows' with some relativly well known people. its just that when someone finds themselves in the same position as you and acts in a completley different way then it creates an intruige (sp?)

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:53 am

RoathMagic wrote:
griff105 wrote:
RoathMagic wrote:
griff105 wrote:Great update. :ayatollah:

You're cool. :thumbup:


You think so? Thanks matey :thumbright:


No worries. I'm looking forward to the next one.
Maybe you should start your own forum, exclusively for Roathy updates, 'should we ban Roathy' polls and the such.

Think of the exposure! :thumbup:


Very interesting concept, ill take it on board. Im am undoubtedly a favourite subject on here. Ill keep you updated, no pun intended.


Wonderful news. Please do.
I would gladly act as a moderator for you. In fact it would be an honour.

Are you going to tell us the subject title of your article by the way? :mrgreen:

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 10:57 am

AlwaysBBlue wrote:
once again, not offended. please stop assuming.

what you are telling me you are not and the content of your posts is conflicting in my opinion.

nor did i say it wasn't allowed. its perfectly allowed, and i'm allowed to offer my opinion. by asking people to guess you are essentially asking people if they care. the amount of serious responses actually offering a realistic guess should have answered your question.

asking to guess was a game, nothing more. :thumbup:

18 people are logged into the forum and about a third of that number responded sensibly. There are 12,000 members on this board so if that strike rate is consistent then 4,000 forumites will be interested in the thread. If that means 8,000 arent interested/dont like it/get offended then so what? Thats a better strike rate than most of the threads on here, yet mine is the one attacked? Like i said - hmmmm.


i dont hate success, im rather successful in my own field. which itself lets me 'rub elbows' with some relativly well known people. its just that when someone finds themselves in the same position as you and acts in a completley different way then it creates an intruige (sp?)

so should my response now be.... "You are successful in your own field? How dare you tell me that, stop looking for validation and attention, you didnt have to say that" ad infinitum :D

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:14 am

Never heard of Jordan whatshisname. Sounds like just another bloke in a whistle.

Heard of Jordon Mutch, though :bluescarf:

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:24 am

Belfort is a c**t and is all that is wrong with the world.

You will get on well.

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:30 am

Wayne S wrote:Belfort is a c**t and is all that is wrong with the world.

You will get on well.


Im sure we will also if i can make it. Very innovative thinker indeed.

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:43 am

so roath,iv just read up a little on this jordan bloke.seems he done 22mnth for fruad.ok he has done his time but part of the sentence i believe was to pay a big figure back to the victims.so far he has paid back 1/10th of the figure according to what iv read.so no road to damascus stuff there then .more of a rebranding of himself i,d say.do you think his policy of pay back as little as possible is correct and fair?also what did you think of him storming off on the tv show when asked about his lack of re enburshment skills?

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:44 am

Roathy you really are a sad little man ,ffs do us all a favor and f**k off ,go get a life ,a girlfriend and put a shrimp of the bbq

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:49 am

jtc wrote:so roath,iv just read up a little on this jordan bloke.seems he done 22mnth for fruad.ok he has done his time but part of the sentence i believe was to pay a big figure back to the victims.so far he has paid back 1/10th of the figure according to what iv read.so no road to damascus stuff there then .more of a rebranding of himself i,d say.do you think his policy of pay back as little as possible is correct and fair?also what did you think of him storming off on the tv show when asked about his lack of re enburshment skills?


Yep ordered to pay back $100m i think or there abouts.

As i said, im not interested in the morals behind his actions or indeed commenting on his sentencing or TV show walk offs, im not bothered, doesnt interest me. im interested in the innovation behind his implemented plans. He is an incredible businessman and one if the most innovative that the stock market has ever seen so much so Scorsese dedicated a film documenting his life. He is a one off and someone we probably wont see the like of again.

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:49 am

RoathMagic wrote:
AlwaysBBlue wrote:
once again, not offended. please stop assuming.

what you are telling me you are not and the content of your posts is conflicting in my opinion.

nor did i say it wasn't allowed. its perfectly allowed, and i'm allowed to offer my opinion. by asking people to guess you are essentially asking people if they care. the amount of serious responses actually offering a realistic guess should have answered your question.

asking to guess was a game, nothing more. :thumbup:

18 people are logged into the forum and about a third of that number responded sensibly. There are 12,000 members on this board so if that strike rate is consistent then 4,000 forumites will be interested in the thread. If that means 8,000 arent interested/dont like it/get offended then so what? Thats a better strike rate than most of the threads on here, yet mine is the one attacked? Like i said - hmmmm.


i dont hate success, im rather successful in my own field. which itself lets me 'rub elbows' with some relativly well known people. its just that when someone finds themselves in the same position as you and acts in a completley different way then it creates an intruige (sp?)

so should my response now be.... "You are successful in your own field? How dare you tell me that, stop looking for validation and attention, you didnt have to say that" ad infinitum :D



if i'd said "im successful in my field, guess who i spoke to? hmm, not many guesses...ok folks, you have 15 minutes!!! still no guesses? ok i'll tell you..." then yes that would be a valid response

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:50 am

wez1927 wrote:Roathy you really are a sad little man ,ffs do us all a favor and f**k off ,go get a life ,a girlfriend and put a shrimp of the bbq



Good one chubs :laughing6:

My fiancee would be a bit angry if i got a girlfriend and also if i cranked up the BBQ in the middle of Harry Potter. Thanks though :laughing6:

Re: Guess who i had a phone call from today.....

Sat Jun 21, 2014 11:53 am

AlwaysBBlue wrote:

if i'd said "im successful in my field, guess who i spoke to? hmm, not many guesses...ok folks, you have 15 minutes!!! still no guesses? ok i'll tell you..." then yes that would be a valid response



Not at all, id take it as face value and certainly partake in the game as it would intrigue me. This is a forum, people share their life experiences on a daily basis. Some come on here stating of an illness they have just got, a pet that has died, a holiday they are going on. To suggest i shouldn't mention this is absurd and leads me to think of what reasons could someone possibly object... Ive already touched upon them :thumbup: