' I Honestly cant still get my head around it '

' I Honestly cant still get my head around it '

I honestly cant still get my head around it that Tan still has his lovers/followers.

I cant believe some of the posts on here in support of Tan, but thats their opinions, I am shocked/stunned,but I suppose some dont want to see the truth.

What posts?

Examples?

Seen lots of Anti tan and anti Malky stuff.

Pro tan ..... Mmm not as much.

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

Happy to answer

1. No plenty more such as yourself and others bricking it when VT said he wouldn't invest and would go.

2. No i was not but why the Malaysian flags not blue flags? As to what lay ahead WE ALL DID. That was part of VT's offer of investment was based on, a rebrand. Our board accepted this as did some of the chosen few who were invited to the club. (Yourself not one i accept)

3. Yes we should welcome but even you must see it was a bit sickly.

Fact is Tan was clear what the terms of his investment was and Cardiff City FC accepted this, FACT.
The anti Tan climaxed over MM which in retrospect perhaps VT was right??

I'd much prefer the club in blue with investment but that offer was not on the table.

Debt to equity is my concern but based on the abuse he has who can blame him for holding back??

Just my opinion.

' I Honestly cant still get my head around it '

I honestly cant still get my head around it that Tan still has his lovers/followers.

I cant believe some of the posts on here in support of Tan, but thats their opinions, I am shocked/stunned,but I suppose some dont want to see the truth.

What posts?

Examples?

Seen lots of Anti tan and anti Malky stuff.



Pro tan ..... Mmm not as much.

At a quick glance on front page I noticed two mocking Malky and one Supporting Malky (that was by yourself)
And two aimed at and mocking Tan (that was posted by yourself)

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

Happy to answer

1. No plenty more such as yourself and others bricking it when VT said he wouldn't invest and would go.

2. No i was not but why the Malaysian flags not blue flags? As to what lay ahead WE ALL DID. That was part of VT's offer of investment was based on, a rebrand. Our board accepted this as did some of the chosen few who were invited to the club. (Yourself not one i accept)

3. Yes we should welcome but even you must see it was a bit sickly.

Fact is Tan was clear what the terms of his investment was and Cardiff City FC accepted this, FACT.
The anti Tan climaxed over MM which in retrospect perhaps VT was right??

I'd much prefer the club in blue with investment but that offer was not on the table.

Debt to equity is my concern but based on the abuse he has who can blame him for holding back??

Just my opinion.

1. Ok please post
2. They were given out to us outside Coventry's ground and at that moment in time, our identity was never ever in question, was it?
3. What was sickly TG was a good man and honestly meant well ?

' I Honestly cant still get my head around it '

I honestly cant still get my head around it that Tan still has his lovers/followers.

I cant believe some of the posts on here in support of Tan, but thats their opinions, I am shocked/stunned,but I suppose some dont want to see the truth.

What posts?

Examples?

Seen lots of Anti tan and anti Malky stuff.

Pro tan ..... Mmm not as much.

AJ, just go down this front page on the forum,many are still arguing for Tan and even in this topic.

' I Honestly cant still get my head around it '

I honestly cant still get my head around it that Tan still has his lovers/followers.

I cant believe some of the posts on here in support of Tan, but thats their opinions, I am shocked/stunned,but I suppose some dont want to see the truth.

What posts?

Examples?

Seen lots of Anti tan and anti Malky stuff.

Pro tan ..... Mmm not as much.

AJ, just go down this front page on the forum,many are still arguing for Tan and even in this topic.

Annis Your always gonna have a counter side of an argument.


I have scrolled through the front page and as I said 2 slating Malky and 1 supporting.
2 aimed at Tan (inc this one) but I don't see one praising his work.

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

Happy to answer



1. No plenty more such as yourself and others bricking it when VT said he wouldn't invest and would go.

2. No i was not but why the Malaysian flags not blue flags? As to what lay ahead WE ALL DID. That was part of VT's offer of investment was based on, a rebrand. Our board accepted this as did some of the chosen few who were invited to the club. (Yourself not one i accept)

3. Yes we should welcome but even you must see it was a bit sickly.

Fact is Tan was clear what the terms of his investment was and Cardiff City FC accepted this, FACT.
The anti Tan climaxed over MM which in retrospect perhaps VT was right??

I'd much prefer the club in blue with investment but that offer was not on the table.

Debt to equity is my concern but based on the abuse he has who can blame him for holding back??

Just my opinion.

1. Ok please post
2. They were given out to us outside Coventry's ground and at that moment in time, our identity was never ever in question, was it?
3. What was sickly TG was a good man and honestly meant well ?

I note you missed answering some of my points?

Was Tan not up front on the terms of his investment?

By the board accepting this shouldn't the abuse be aimed at them not VT??

We would be League 2 or worse if Tan had never stepped in.

He's put millions into the club for players and other investments.

The people who demand him out never give a proper response to what would happen.

That's an easy question to turn the tables on. We are in the same division as when he came here with triple the debt, the way tan is going where is our club going to be in 5 years time? The current trend means we are looking at 300 to 500 mil in debt it's not sustainable and he is going to bury this club

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

Happy to answer



1. No plenty more such as yourself and others bricking it when VT said he wouldn't invest and would go.

2. No i was not but why the Malaysian flags not blue flags? As to what lay ahead WE ALL DID. That was part of VT's offer of investment was based on, a rebrand. Our board accepted this as did some of the chosen few who were invited to the club. (Yourself not one i accept)

3. Yes we should welcome but even you must see it was a bit sickly.

Fact is Tan was clear what the terms of his investment was and Cardiff City FC accepted this, FACT.
The anti Tan climaxed over MM which in retrospect perhaps VT was right??

I'd much prefer the club in blue with investment but that offer was not on the table.

Debt to equity is my concern but based on the abuse he has who can blame him for holding back??

Just my opinion.

1. Ok please post
2. They were given out to us outside Coventry's ground and at that moment in time, our identity was never ever in question, was it?
3. What was sickly TG was a good man and honestly meant well ?

I note you missed answering some of my points?

Was Tan not up front on the terms of his investment?

By the board accepting this shouldn't the abuse be aimed at them not VT??

Tan said he would make us Debt Free and that was said to us by Alan Whitley on his behalf.
Tan also said he would invest £100 mill, which so far he has not written off just lent to us.

Also please answer my ones

We would be League 2 or worse if Tan had never stepped in.

He's put millions into the club for players and other investments.

The people who demand him out never give a proper response to what would happen.

That's an easy question to turn the tables on. We are in the same division as when he came here with triple the debt, the way tan is going where is our club going to be in 5 years time? The current trend means we are looking at 300 to 500 mil in debt it's not sustainable and he is going to bury this club

Thats easy to answer to, HMRC were about to pull us in til he came in plus owing many others so in my opinion worse scenario than now.

From Facebook

Simon Underhill Money talks and I wouldn't trust the Tan lovers as far as I could throw them. The type of people I don't want to associate with. Sell their own souls for success



Neil Courtney Bottom line Annis , some strange characters follow the Bluebirds !


David Bradley Tan at fault 100%. If anyone else IS to blame then they were either appointed by tan or appointed by people tan put in charge of overseeing the appointment/s. So tan is to blame in a nutshell no matter what anyone else thinks or says. End of. Top man takes the brunt sorry.BTID


Paul Mond Hammond bless the red brigade, not gone but surely very few in numbers now


Peter D Collins How can any1 stick up for that tw*t,,it makes my piss boil that fans/plastics agree with everything he has done to our club.when the club is us true fans


Denise Powsher Yates Well said Mr Collins, It is all Tans fault but typically he doesnt take the blame himself. All he has done has been 100% negative for the club. He is the only one who is allowed to have opinions despite knowing f**k all about football!!!

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

Happy to answer



1. No plenty more such as yourself and others bricking it when VT said he wouldn't invest and would go.

2. No i was not but why the Malaysian flags not blue flags? As to what lay ahead WE ALL DID. That was part of VT's offer of investment was based on, a rebrand. Our board accepted this as did some of the chosen few who were invited to the club. (Yourself not one i accept)

3. Yes we should welcome but even you must see it was a bit sickly.

Fact is Tan was clear what the terms of his investment was and Cardiff City FC accepted this, FACT.
The anti Tan climaxed over MM which in retrospect perhaps VT was right??

I'd much prefer the club in blue with investment but that offer was not on the table.

Debt to equity is my concern but based on the abuse he has who can blame him for holding back??

Just my opinion.

1. Ok please post
2. They were given out to us outside Coventry's ground and at that moment in time, our identity was never ever in question, was it?
3. What was sickly TG was a good man and honestly meant well ?

I note you missed answering some of my points?

Was Tan not up front on the terms of his investment?

By the board accepting this shouldn't the abuse be aimed at them not VT??

Tan said he would make us Debt Free and that was said to us by Alan Whitley on his behalf.
Tan also said he would invest £100 mill, which so far he has not written off just lent to us.

Also please answer my ones

I agree debt to equity needs to be completed to fully fulfilled and will agree that pressure to convert is the priority.

However please be honest, if you had carried out all you promised in terms of paying historical debts etc, getting to premier league then see fans marching and being verbally abused would you convert?

Do you agreerebrand issue should be against the board for accepting not VT for offering??

We would be League 2 or worse if Tan had never stepped in.

He's put millions into the club for players and other investments.

The people who demand him out never give a proper response to what would happen.

That's an easy question to turn the tables on. We are in the same division as when he came here with triple the debt, the way tan is going where is our club going to be in 5 years time? The current trend means we are looking at 300 to 500 mil in debt it's not sustainable and he is going to bury this club

That's Just Conjecture...

We have no idea what's ahead.
We could spend the next six years In the prem.
Revenues would be insane.

But again, that's just conjecture.

You say it's an easy question, but you offer no viable answer...

Annis it's probably not wise quoting FB.
Just last week I read a comment praising the signings made so far....
Posted by the group " We Hate Vincent Tan".


It's been suggested before, if you really want him gone,boycott.

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

Happy to answer



1. No plenty more such as yourself and others bricking it when VT said he wouldn't invest and would go.

2. No i was not but why the Malaysian flags not blue flags? As to what lay ahead WE ALL DID. That was part of VT's offer of investment was based on, a rebrand. Our board accepted this as did some of the chosen few who were invited to the club. (Yourself not one i accept)

3. Yes we should welcome but even you must see it was a bit sickly.

Fact is Tan was clear what the terms of his investment was and Cardiff City FC accepted this, FACT.
The anti Tan climaxed over MM which in retrospect perhaps VT was right??

I'd much prefer the club in blue with investment but that offer was not on the table.

Debt to equity is my concern but based on the abuse he has who can blame him for holding back??

Just my opinion.

1. Ok please post
2. They were given out to us outside Coventry's ground and at that moment in time, our identity was never ever in question, was it?
3. What was sickly TG was a good man and honestly meant well ?

I note you missed answering some of my points?

Was Tan not up front on the terms of his investment?

By the board accepting this shouldn't the abuse be aimed at them not VT??

Tan said he would make us Debt Free and that was said to us by Alan Whitley on his behalf.
Tan also said he would invest £100 mill, which so far he has not written off just lent to us.

Also please answer my ones

I agree debt to equity needs to be completed to fully fulfilled and will agree that pressure to convert is the priority.

However please be honest, if you had carried out all you promised in terms of paying historical debts etc, getting to premier league then see fans marching and being verbally abused would you convert?

Do you agreerebrand issue should be against the board for accepting not VT for offering??

Paul, thats what u will get from me honesty

Tan a year ago said it would be done in days.

First of all I would not strip a club of its history and identity,but if I was that type of person and fans turned against me, because I was that type of person, I would dig my heels in more.

To be even more honest, Tan in my opinion was badly advised by Julian Jenkins,Alan Whitley,Wayne Nash etc that our fans were more than happy to accept it, you could say he was conned.
But as he is a very astute person, I'm sure he must of been aware that British people all cant be bought off and do have pride/respect and love their history, 100 years of it.

Tan should now compromise

No, I said it's an easy question turn the tables on. If you read my post again I think you will find I agree with you, that is why the where would we be without tan, who's going to take over argument in support of tan is full of shit

Annis it's probably not wise quoting FB.
Just last week I read a comment praising the signings made so far....
Posted by the group " We Hate Vincent Tan".


It's been suggested before, if you really want him gone,boycott.

AJ, I quote from everywhere good or bad, but I agree some fickle buggers out there

Annis you don't have to keep quoting these people off fb to back up your argument.A lot of the time their from Bu Fb page.Your 1 man crusade against VT is getting embarrassing.

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

Happy to answer



1. No plenty more such as yourself and others bricking it when VT said he wouldn't invest and would go.

2. No i was not but why the Malaysian flags not blue flags? As to what lay ahead WE ALL DID. That was part of VT's offer of investment was based on, a rebrand. Our board accepted this as did some of the chosen few who were invited to the club. (Yourself not one i accept)

3. Yes we should welcome but even you must see it was a bit sickly.

Fact is Tan was clear what the terms of his investment was and Cardiff City FC accepted this, FACT.
The anti Tan climaxed over MM which in retrospect perhaps VT was right??

I'd much prefer the club in blue with investment but that offer was not on the table.

Debt to equity is my concern but based on the abuse he has who can blame him for holding back??

Just my opinion.

1. Ok please post
2. They were given out to us outside Coventry's ground and at that moment in time, our identity was never ever in question, was it?
3. What was sickly TG was a good man and honestly meant well ?

I note you missed answering some of my points?

Was Tan not up front on the terms of his investment?

By the board accepting this shouldn't the abuse be aimed at them not VT??

Tan said he would make us Debt Free and that was said to us by Alan Whitley on his behalf.
Tan also said he would invest £100 mill, which so far he has not written off just lent to us.

Also please answer my ones

I agree debt to equity needs to be completed to fully fulfilled and will agree that pressure to convert is the priority.

However please be honest, if you had carried out all you promised in terms of paying historical debts etc, getting to premier league then see fans marching and being verbally abused would you convert?

Do you agreerebrand issue should be against the board for accepting not VT for offering??

Paul, thats what u will get from me honesty

Tan a year ago said it would be done in days.

First of all I would not strip a club of its history and identity,but if I was that type of person and fans turned against me, because I was that type of person, I would dig my heels in more.

To be even more honest, Tan in my opinion was badly advised by Julian Jenkins,Alan Whitley,Wayne Nash etc that our fans were more than happy to accept it, you could say he was conned.
But as he is a very astute person, I'm sure he must of been aware that British people all cant be bought off and do have pride/respect and love their history, 100 years of it.

Tan should now compromise

As you know we have had this conversation a number of times and what you say above is probably spot on. People who stood to gain were welcoming the investment/rebrand for their own means, this i think includes Sam Hamann who may ghave manoeuvred some of his mates.

To get what i think we all want, a blue club, is a change in approach.

If VT was told porkies and is now left in the lurch we should hold out the olive branch. Make it easy for him to change rather than being seen to back down.

To get this you and others in my opinion should tone down the hatred, offer something positive.

The trust are going around this poorly. Inviting Malky as an ambassador?? Launching own blue shirt?? Hardly going to have a cordial relationship that way are they!!!!

Annis you don't have to keep quoting these people off fb to back up your argument.A lot of the time their from Bu Fb page.Your 1 man crusade against VT is getting embarrassing.

I have not looked on BU page for over 6 weeks and I dont post on there no more.

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

Happy to answer



1. No plenty more such as yourself and others bricking it when VT said he wouldn't invest and would go.

2. No i was not but why the Malaysian flags not blue flags? As to what lay ahead WE ALL DID. That was part of VT's offer of investment was based on, a rebrand. Our board accepted this as did some of the chosen few who were invited to the club. (Yourself not one i accept)

3. Yes we should welcome but even you must see it was a bit sickly.

Fact is Tan was clear what the terms of his investment was and Cardiff City FC accepted this, FACT.
The anti Tan climaxed over MM which in retrospect perhaps VT was right??

I'd much prefer the club in blue with investment but that offer was not on the table.

Debt to equity is my concern but based on the abuse he has who can blame him for holding back??

Just my opinion.

1. Ok please post
2. They were given out to us outside Coventry's ground and at that moment in time, our identity was never ever in question, was it?
3. What was sickly TG was a good man and honestly meant well ?

I note you missed answering some of my points?

Was Tan not up front on the terms of his investment?

By the board accepting this shouldn't the abuse be aimed at them not VT??

Tan said he would make us Debt Free and that was said to us by Alan Whitley on his behalf.
Tan also said he would invest £100 mill, which so far he has not written off just lent to us.

Also please answer my ones

I agree debt to equity needs to be completed to fully fulfilled and will agree that pressure to convert is the priority.

However please be honest, if you had carried out all you promised in terms of paying historical debts etc, getting to premier league then see fans marching and being verbally abused would you convert?

Do you agreerebrand issue should be against the board for accepting not VT for offering??

Paul, thats what u will get from me honesty

Tan a year ago said it would be done in days.

First of all I would not strip a club of its history and identity,but if I was that type of person and fans turned against me, because I was that type of person, I would dig my heels in more.

To be even more honest, Tan in my opinion was badly advised by Julian Jenkins,Alan Whitley,Wayne Nash etc that our fans were more than happy to accept it, you could say he was conned.
But as he is a very astute person, I'm sure he must of been aware that British people all cant be bought off and do have pride/respect and love their history, 100 years of it.

Tan should now compromise

As you know we have had this conversation a number of times and what you say above is probably spot on. People who stood to gain were welcoming the investment/rebrand for their own means, this i think includes Sam Hamann who may ghave manoeuvred some of his mates.

To get what i think we all want, a blue club, is a change in approach.

If VT was told porkies and is now left in the lurch we should hold out the olive branch. Make it easy for him to change rather than being seen to back down.

To get this you and others in my opinion should tone down the hatred, offer something positive.

The trust are going around this poorly. Inviting Malky as an ambassador?? Launching own blue shirt?? Hardly going to have a cordial relationship that way are they!!!!

Paul, I would love our fans to have proper dialogue with Tan, but its quite impossible,its either him or certain people in the club preventing it.

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

Happy to answer



1. No plenty more such as yourself and others bricking it when VT said he wouldn't invest and would go.

2. No i was not but why the Malaysian flags not blue flags? As to what lay ahead WE ALL DID. That was part of VT's offer of investment was based on, a rebrand. Our board accepted this as did some of the chosen few who were invited to the club. (Yourself not one i accept)

3. Yes we should welcome but even you must see it was a bit sickly.

Fact is Tan was clear what the terms of his investment was and Cardiff City FC accepted this, FACT.
The anti Tan climaxed over MM which in retrospect perhaps VT was right??

I'd much prefer the club in blue with investment but that offer was not on the table.

Debt to equity is my concern but based on the abuse he has who can blame him for holding back??

Just my opinion.

1. Ok please post
2. They were given out to us outside Coventry's ground and at that moment in time, our identity was never ever in question, was it?
3. What was sickly TG was a good man and honestly meant well ?

I note you missed answering some of my points?

Was Tan not up front on the terms of his investment?

By the board accepting this shouldn't the abuse be aimed at them not VT??

Tan said he would make us Debt Free and that was said to us by Alan Whitley on his behalf.
Tan also said he would invest £100 mill, which so far he has not written off just lent to us.

Also please answer my ones

I agree debt to equity needs to be completed to fully fulfilled and will agree that pressure to convert is the priority.

However please be honest, if you had carried out all you promised in terms of paying historical debts etc, getting to premier league then see fans marching and being verbally abused would you convert?

Do you agreerebrand issue should be against the board for accepting not VT for offering??

Paul, thats what u will get from me honesty

Tan a year ago said it would be done in days.

First of all I would not strip a club of its history and identity,but if I was that type of person and fans turned against me, because I was that type of person, I would dig my heels in more.

To be even more honest, Tan in my opinion was badly advised by Julian Jenkins,Alan Whitley,Wayne Nash etc that our fans were more than happy to accept it, you could say he was conned.
But as he is a very astute person, I'm sure he must of been aware that British people all cant be bought off and do have pride/respect and love their history, 100 years of it.

Tan should now compromise

Where does he say it will be done in days annis? Please provide evidence because all the evidence I've seen berger mentions days once. It's always a long term aim

Annis you don't have to keep quoting these people off fb to back up your argument.A lot of the time their from Bu Fb page.Your 1 man crusade against VT is getting embarrassing.

It's 1 & 1/2!

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

Happy to answer



1. No plenty more such as yourself and others bricking it when VT said he wouldn't invest and would go.

2. No i was not but why the Malaysian flags not blue flags? As to what lay ahead WE ALL DID. That was part of VT's offer of investment was based on, a rebrand. Our board accepted this as did some of the chosen few who were invited to the club. (Yourself not one i accept)

3. Yes we should welcome but even you must see it was a bit sickly.

Fact is Tan was clear what the terms of his investment was and Cardiff City FC accepted this, FACT.
The anti Tan climaxed over MM which in retrospect perhaps VT was right??

I'd much prefer the club in blue with investment but that offer was not on the table.

Debt to equity is my concern but based on the abuse he has who can blame him for holding back??

Just my opinion.

1. Ok please post
2. They were given out to us outside Coventry's ground and at that moment in time, our identity was never ever in question, was it?
3. What was sickly TG was a good man and honestly meant well ?

I note you missed answering some of my points?

Was Tan not up front on the terms of his investment?

By the board accepting this shouldn't the abuse be aimed at them not VT??

Tan said he would make us Debt Free and that was said to us by Alan Whitley on his behalf.
Tan also said he would invest £100 mill, which so far he has not written off just lent to us.

Also please answer my ones

I agree debt to equity needs to be completed to fully fulfilled and will agree that pressure to convert is the priority.

However please be honest, if you had carried out all you promised in terms of paying historical debts etc, getting to premier league then see fans marching and being verbally abused would you convert?

Do you agreerebrand issue should be against the board for accepting not VT for offering??

Paul, thats what u will get from me honesty

Tan a year ago said it would be done in days.

First of all I would not strip a club of its history and identity,but if I was that type of person and fans turned against me, because I was that type of person, I would dig my heels in more.

To be even more honest, Tan in my opinion was badly advised by Julian Jenkins,Alan Whitley,Wayne Nash etc that our fans were more than happy to accept it, you could say he was conned.
But as he is a very astute person, I'm sure he must of been aware that British people all cant be bought off and do have pride/respect and love their history, 100 years of it.

Tan should now compromise

Annis,
Mr Tan has publicly offered a compromise i.e. support Ole in getting the team promoted next season and he will discuss a compromise on the kit.
In this context he also said something which in my view effectively went 'I won't be seen to be bullied into a U-turn so back off and give me a chance to deal with this gracefully.' What's wrong with that?
Wise men show magnanimity in victory.

And by the way, whatever the colour of the shirt CCFC still has it's history which cannot be denied. Mr Tan and the rebrand is actually part of it.

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

Happy to answer



1. No plenty more such as yourself and others bricking it when VT said he wouldn't invest and would go.

2. No i was not but why the Malaysian flags not blue flags? As to what lay ahead WE ALL DID. That was part of VT's offer of investment was based on, a rebrand. Our board accepted this as did some of the chosen few who were invited to the club. (Yourself not one i accept)

3. Yes we should welcome but even you must see it was a bit sickly.

Fact is Tan was clear what the terms of his investment was and Cardiff City FC accepted this, FACT.
The anti Tan climaxed over MM which in retrospect perhaps VT was right??

I'd much prefer the club in blue with investment but that offer was not on the table.

Debt to equity is my concern but based on the abuse he has who can blame him for holding back??

Just my opinion.

1. Ok please post
2. They were given out to us outside Coventry's ground and at that moment in time, our identity was never ever in question, was it?
3. What was sickly TG was a good man and honestly meant well ?

I note you missed answering some of my points?

Was Tan not up front on the terms of his investment?

By the board accepting this shouldn't the abuse be aimed at them not VT??

Tan said he would make us Debt Free and that was said to us by Alan Whitley on his behalf.
Tan also said he would invest £100 mill, which so far he has not written off just lent to us.

Also please answer my ones

I agree debt to equity needs to be completed to fully fulfilled and will agree that pressure to convert is the priority.

However please be honest, if you had carried out all you promised in terms of paying historical debts etc, getting to premier league then see fans marching and being verbally abused would you convert?

Do you agreerebrand issue should be against the board for accepting not VT for offering??

Paul, thats what u will get from me honesty

Tan a year ago said it would be done in days.

First of all I would not strip a club of its history and identity,but if I was that type of person and fans turned against me, because I was that type of person, I would dig my heels in more.

To be even more honest, Tan in my opinion was badly advised by Julian Jenkins,Alan Whitley,Wayne Nash etc that our fans were more than happy to accept it, you could say he was conned.
But as he is a very astute person, I'm sure he must of been aware that British people all cant be bought off and do have pride/respect and love their history, 100 years of it.

Tan should now compromise

Annis,
Mr Tan has publicly offered a compromise i.e. support Ole in getting the team promoted next season and he will discuss a compromise on the kit.
In this context he also said something which in my view effectively went 'I won't be seen to be bullied into a U-turn so back off and give me a chance to deal with this gracefully.' What's wrong with that?
Wise men show magnanimity in victory.

And by the way, whatever the colour of the shirt CCFC still has it's history which cannot be denied. Mr Tan and the rebrand is actually part of it.

U mean once were conned in to all being quite next season, lets discuss it all now, not 3 years later

Annis, where is your evidence to say tan would sorry the debt in days? Is always been clear that it was a long term aim

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

Happy to answer



1. No plenty more such as yourself and others bricking it when VT said he wouldn't invest and would go.

2. No i was not but why the Malaysian flags not blue flags? As to what lay ahead WE ALL DID. That was part of VT's offer of investment was based on, a rebrand. Our board accepted this as did some of the chosen few who were invited to the club. (Yourself not one i accept)

3. Yes we should welcome but even you must see it was a bit sickly.

Fact is Tan was clear what the terms of his investment was and Cardiff City FC accepted this, FACT.
The anti Tan climaxed over MM which in retrospect perhaps VT was right??

I'd much prefer the club in blue with investment but that offer was not on the table.

Debt to equity is my concern but based on the abuse he has who can blame him for holding back??

Just my opinion.

1. Ok please post
2. They were given out to us outside Coventry's ground and at that moment in time, our identity was never ever in question, was it?
3. What was sickly TG was a good man and honestly meant well ?

I note you missed answering some of my points?

Was Tan not up front on the terms of his investment?

By the board accepting this shouldn't the abuse be aimed at them not VT??

Tan said he would make us Debt Free and that was said to us by Alan Whitley on his behalf.
Tan also said he would invest £100 mill, which so far he has not written off just lent to us.

Also please answer my ones

I agree debt to equity needs to be completed to fully fulfilled and will agree that pressure to convert is the priority.

However please be honest, if you had carried out all you promised in terms of paying historical debts etc, getting to premier league then see fans marching and being verbally abused would you convert?

Do you agreerebrand issue should be against the board for accepting not VT for offering??

Paul, thats what u will get from me honesty

Tan a year ago said it would be done in days.

First of all I would not strip a club of its history and identity,but if I was that type of person and fans turned against me, because I was that type of person, I would dig my heels in more.

To be even more honest, Tan in my opinion was badly advised by Julian Jenkins,Alan Whitley,Wayne Nash etc that our fans were more than happy to accept it, you could say he was conned.
But as he is a very astute person, I'm sure he must of been aware that British people all cant be bought off and do have pride/respect and love their history, 100 years of it.

Tan should now compromise

Annis,
Mr Tan has publicly offered a compromise i.e. support Ole in getting the team promoted next season and he will discuss a compromise on the kit.
In this context he also said something which in my view effectively went 'I won't be seen to be bullied into a U-turn so back off and give me a chance to deal with this gracefully.' What's wrong with that?
Wise men show magnanimity in victory.

And by the way, whatever the colour of the shirt CCFC still has it's history which cannot be denied. Mr Tan and the rebrand is actually part of it.

Spot on! Or is there something else at pay here????

I honestly cant get my head around the fact that so many defend Malky.......still......

nevermind

That's a good point... Tan and his re brand is the only thing that fucks me off apart from that I don't mind him

But natman blue Vincent tan can f**k right off on any compromise

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

Happy to answer



1. No plenty more such as yourself and others bricking it when VT said he wouldn't invest and would go.

2. No i was not but why the Malaysian flags not blue flags? As to what lay ahead WE ALL DID. That was part of VT's offer of investment was based on, a rebrand. Our board accepted this as did some of the chosen few who were invited to the club. (Yourself not one i accept)

3. Yes we should welcome but even you must see it was a bit sickly.

Fact is Tan was clear what the terms of his investment was and Cardiff City FC accepted this, FACT.
The anti Tan climaxed over MM which in retrospect perhaps VT was right??

I'd much prefer the club in blue with investment but that offer was not on the table.

Debt to equity is my concern but based on the abuse he has who can blame him for holding back??

Just my opinion.

1. Ok please post
2. They were given out to us outside Coventry's ground and at that moment in time, our identity was never ever in question, was it?
3. What was sickly TG was a good man and honestly meant well ?

I note you missed answering some of my points?

Was Tan not up front on the terms of his investment?

By the board accepting this shouldn't the abuse be aimed at them not VT??

Tan said he would make us Debt Free and that was said to us by Alan Whitley on his behalf.
Tan also said he would invest £100 mill, which so far he has not written off just lent to us.

Also please answer my ones

I agree debt to equity needs to be completed to fully fulfilled and will agree that pressure to convert is the priority.

However please be honest, if you had carried out all you promised in terms of paying historical debts etc, getting to premier league then see fans marching and being verbally abused would you convert?

Do you agreerebrand issue should be against the board for accepting not VT for offering??

Paul, thats what u will get from me honesty

Tan a year ago said it would be done in days.

First of all I would not strip a club of its history and identity,but if I was that type of person and fans turned against me, because I was that type of person, I would dig my heels in more.

To be even more honest, Tan in my opinion was badly advised by Julian Jenkins,Alan Whitley,Wayne Nash etc that our fans were more than happy to accept it, you could say he was conned.
But as he is a very astute person, I'm sure he must of been aware that British people all cant be bought off and do have pride/respect and love their history, 100 years of it.

Tan should now compromise

Annis,
Mr Tan has publicly offered a compromise i.e. support Ole in getting the team promoted next season and he will discuss a compromise on the kit.
In this context he also said something which in my view effectively went 'I won't be seen to be bullied into a U-turn so back off and give me a chance to deal with this gracefully.' What's wrong with that?
Wise men show magnanimity in victory.

And by the way, whatever the colour of the shirt CCFC still has it's history which cannot be denied. Mr Tan and the rebrand is actually part of it.

U mean once were conned in to all being quite next season, lets discuss it all now, not 3 years later

Don't be churlish.You asked for a compromise -Mr Tan has already offered one, publicly, on BBC tv.

The prospect of a compromise on the kit will be enhanced if promotion is secured. Don't you agree that a more positive environment would improve the chances of that happening?
Furthermore, if you want Mr Tan to leave I suggest the chances of that happening - and the hope of long term stability are greater if CCFC are in the PL. So, logically, you should get behind the Club and drop the nihilistic stance you are promoting.

If it wasn't so ridiculous, one could almost believe there is someone out there who hopes that if Mr Tan decide to cut his losses, he could buy the club on the cheap and a little help along the way from a sustained anti-Tan campaign would be helpful.