ARGIE FOOTBALL TEAM PROTEST

And tell your friend in BP that hes talking shite. Lol

As you are in the smallest council in Wales I certainly understand the concept BIG fish in a SMALL pool.

sorry ? What nonsense are you talking about now ?

And tell your friend in BP that hes talking shite. Lol

As you are in the smallest council in Wales I certainly understand the concept BIG fish in a SMALL pool.

sorry ? What nonsense are you talking about now ?

My bad was supposed to read.. As you were in the smallest council in Wales I certainly understand the concept BIG fish in a SMALL pool.

Well as far as I'm swear the Atlantic ocean is quiet a BIG pond so its your mate in BP probably feeding you BS

Well as far as I'm swear the Atlantic ocean is quiet a BIG pond so its your mate in BP probably feeding you BS

As an EX councillor in Merthyr you know exactly what i'm talking about!

The only person whohasn't aclue in this thread is you cardiffcitymad

Ive answered your posts!

I refer to your original post which stated "Give it back to them" and to add to that so what have you actually contributed to a very serious thread apart from being a troll and hijacking what I feel was a perfectly good post?

Well as far as I'm swear the Atlantic ocean is quiet a BIG pond so its your mate in BP probably feeding you BS

As an EX councillor in Merthyr you know exactly what i'm talking about!

As a current shareholder of FOGL I know what I'm talking about regarding the oil and gas industry in the Falklands unlike you. Lol

Well as far as I'm swear the Atlantic ocean is quiet a BIG pond so its your mate in BP probably feeding you BS

As an EX councillor in Merthyr you know exactly what i'm talking about!

As a current shareholder of FOGL I know what I'm talking about regarding the oil and gas industry in the Falklands unlike you. Lol

As I said before you dream!

The only person whohasn't aclue in this thread is you cardiffcitymad

Ive answered your posts!

I refer to your original post which stated "Give it back to them" and to add to that so what have you actually contributed to a very serious thread apart from being a troll and hijacking what I feel was a perfectly good post?

You cannot answer my question ?

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So all the evidence and articles Ive produced on the subject is worthless then because you have apparently spoken to someone in BP ? Lol you couldn't make it up!! Lol

So all the evidence and articles Ive produced on the subject is worthless then because you have apparently spoken to someone in BP ? Lol you couldn't make it up!! Lol

Where have I said that? Please provide me the link?
Is this you by any chance? http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local ... am-2017302

Lol, i rest my case that you are just a troll who hasn't got a clue

Lol, i rest my case that you are just a troll who hasn't got a clue

Lol, i rest my case that you are just a troll who hasn't got a clue

I just love the way because you disagree with my opinion and facts, you become all sexist and start name calling!

Lol, i rest my case that you are just a troll who hasn't got a clue

I just love the way because you disagree with my opinion and facts, you become all sexist and start name calling!

Ahh there we go lets throw in the sexist card!,You are a troll now go watch big brother on catch up you may have some knowledge on something as dire as that.goodnight

Funny though how that old c**t Thatcher gave back Hong Kong after 155 year British rule.

Totally different we had Hong Kong on a lease type basis and gave it back as per terms ,Argentina never bothered with the Falklands they didn't want it ,the Portuguese and spainish when colonizing south America didn't want it either before Argentina was a country in its own right after independence but we did

I know what your saying, but if we thought we would have had a chance with Hong Kong it would have been f**k You.
England still Robbing and Pillaging the rest of the world.

Lol, i rest my case that you are just a troll who hasn't got a clue

I just love the way because you disagree with my opinion and facts, you become all sexist and start name calling!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are banned from standing council after misrepresenting and giving out false figures on your campaign leaflet! Joke really

Wrong so whats your next assumption? Or shall I say lie ?

Wrong so whats your next assumption? Or shall I say lie ?

It's fact, all in the public domain!

Shall I give you a little longer to get the correct facts or is your assumptions based on some guy claiming to be from BP ? Lol

Lol, i rest my case that you are just a troll who hasn't got a clue

I just love the way because you disagree with my opinion and facts, you become all sexist and start name calling!

Ahh there we go lets throw in the sexist card!,You are a troll now go watch big brother on catch up you may have some knowledge on something as dire as that.goodnight

tbf he did say "typical woman talking bollocks" which is very very sexist indeed.

from a disgraced ex-counciler im surprised he has the balls to say anything to anyone. His distain for his fellow man is clearly documented in the news

Shall I give you a little longer to get the correct facts or is your assumptions based on some guy claiming to be from BP ? Lol

I only deal in FACT, here is the link http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local ... am-2017302

We should just give it back to them, costing us far too much money.

WTF!!! It wasn't there's to start with and now we've found oil and gas there they are kicking off again so hoe is that costing us money ? Making us money more like!!! Do your research before making some ill-judged comments

These are the facts, the Malvinas historically have been Spanish, French, Argentinian and British settlements, the imperialist past resulted in the occupation by English speaking colonists. We are paying to defend more sheep than people, thousands of miles away when we are cutting services here! As for possible oil around the island if you read the bp report on shale gas and energy for the next 50 years it's a non starter. Loads of young football fans have given they're lives for the imperialist cause.

You don't half talk shit. Read the history. http://www.falklandshistory.org/

The Spanish never had settlers there, only a garrison.

The British were the first to sail to the islands and claim it in 1596, the British were the first to actually land there a 100 years later. The islands were uninhabited.

The French were the first to send settlers there in 1765, they jumped in as they knew the British were thinking of setting up a base there, which arrived in 1766. At first neither knew the other were there. The Spanish used family ties to force the French to abandon the settlement for which the French were paid their expenses in 1767. In 1770 the Spanish evicted the British, the British prepared for war and increased the navy size (Nelson would never have been able to join the navy without this). The Spanish needed the French to help in any war, obviously the French did not want to help, so the Spanish rebuilt the British garrison it had destroyed and the British returned in 1771.

In 1774 the British left due to cuts and the coming war with the American colonies, they left a flag and a plaque which claimed sovereignty. The Spanish remained in their garrison. Britain always claimed the whole islands, the Spanish just their one island.

In 1778 the Spanish created the Viceroyalty of the Rio de Plata, the southern limit being 41 degrees, the Falklands are at 51 degrees (over a 1000 miles away). the Spanish administered the Falklands garrison from Montevideo in modern day Uruguay, orders coming direct from Madrid.

In the 1780's the Spanish destroyed the British garrison again and stole the flag and plaque (we were at war with them at the time).

In 1810 the Spanish left and left a flag and plaque, the soldiers went to Montevideo to help fight against the insurrection against Spain.

In 1823 a French/German businessman Vernet with his brother in law gain permission from the United provinces to start a business on the Islands raising cattle and hunting seals, this fails within 2 months.

In 1825 Britain signed a commercial agreement with the United Provinces (later Argentina) the first to recognise them.

In 1826 Vernet makes a second attempt and this time he knows of Britain's claims to the islands and gains permission from both the UP and Britain to start his business.

In 1829 the UP appoint him commander of the Falklands (Malvina's as they call them, originating from the French name after the sailors from St.Malmo). On hearing this Britain sends an official protest to the UP government telling them not to assume sovereignty on land that already belongs to Britain. The UP does not even respond.

In 1831 Vernet captures American sealing ships who are hunting without his license. The Americans retaliate by sending a ship, the Lexington, which destroys his defences and removes the majority of settlers, leaving less than 30 on the Islands.

In 1832 the UP announce it will set up a garrison and penal colony on the Island, again Britain protests and again the UP does not respond. Britain decides to send some ships to reassert sovereignty.

In October 1832 the UP garrison arrives, within 2 months the men mutinied and murdered the senior officer. In December the British ships at the old British garrison and officially reclaims the Islands.

In January 1833 they arrive at the old French/Spanish settlement where the UP garrison was set up and forced the UP garrison to leave. They persuade all but 5 of the settlers to remain (they were there with British permission).

The UP government officially protested and continued to protest every year until 1850, where after a short war between Argentina and combined British and French forces. A Peace Treaty was signed which did not include any mention of the Falklands, under the law at that time, a peace treaty left all land in the hands of the holders unless specifically mentioned in the treaty. After this, Argentina stopped its annual protest.

Between 1850 and the 1940's only once was the matter raised, when they unofficially asked about arbitration in 1888, Britain replied that the matter was closed. In the 1940's Peron raised it as an issue when they thought we would lose the war and also claimed South Georgia and the sandwich Islands for the first time as well.


Don't forget that Argentina itself is the result of Spanish colonialism, and they murdered the local inhabitants to take the land. Argentina themselves spread South committing genocide against the inhabitants of Patagonia between the 1850's and 1888. Now they want to colonise the Falklands.

We should just give it back to them, costing us far too much money.

WTF!!! It wasn't there's to start with and now we've found oil and gas there they are kicking off again so hoe is that costing us money ? Making us money more like!!! Do your research before making some ill-judged comments

These are the facts, the Malvinas historically have been Spanish, French, Argentinian and British settlements, the imperialist past resulted in the occupation by English speaking colonists. We are paying to defend more sheep than people, thousands of miles away when we are cutting services here! As for possible oil around the island if you read the bp report on shale gas and energy for the next 50 years it's a non starter. Loads of young football fans have given they're lives for the imperialist cause.

You don't half talk shit. Read the history. http://www.falklandshistory.org/

The Spanish never had settlers there, only a garrison.

The British were the first to sail to the islands and claim it in 1596, the British were the first to actually land there a 100 years later. The islands were uninhabited.

The French were the first to send settlers there in 1765, they jumped in as they knew the British were thinking of setting up a base there, which arrived in 1766. At first neither knew the other were there. The Spanish used family ties to force the French to abandon the settlement for which the French were paid their expenses in 1767. In 1770 the Spanish evicted the British, the British prepared for war and increased the navy size (Nelson would never have been able to join the navy without this). The Spanish needed the French to help in any war, obviously the French did not want to help, so the Spanish rebuilt the British garrison it had destroyed and the British returned in 1771.

In 1774 the British left due to cuts and the coming war with the American colonies, they left a flag and a plaque which claimed sovereignty. The Spanish remained in their garrison. Britain always claimed the whole islands, the Spanish just their one island.

In 1778 the Spanish created the Viceroyalty of the Rio de Plata, the southern limit being 41 degrees, the Falklands are at 51 degrees (over a 1000 miles away). the Spanish administered the Falklands garrison from Montevideo in modern day Uruguay, orders coming direct from Madrid.

In the 1780's the Spanish destroyed the British garrison again and stole the flag and plaque (we were at war with them at the time).

In 1810 the Spanish left and left a flag and plaque, the soldiers went to Montevideo to help fight against the insurrection against Spain.

In 1823 a French/German businessman Vernet with his brother in law gain permission from the United provinces to start a business on the Islands raising cattle and hunting seals, this fails within 2 months.

In 1825 Britain signed a commercial agreement with the United Provinces (later Argentina) the first to recognise them.

In 1826 Vernet makes a second attempt and this time he knows of Britain's claims to the islands and gains permission from both the UP and Britain to start his business.

In 1829 the UP appoint him commander of the Falklands (Malvina's as they call them, originating from the French name after the sailors from St.Malmo). On hearing this Britain sends an official protest to the UP government telling them not to assume sovereignty on land that already belongs to Britain. The UP does not even respond.

In 1831 Vernet captures American sealing ships who are hunting without his license. The Americans retaliate by sending a ship, the Lexington, which destroys his defences and removes the majority of settlers, leaving less than 30 on the Islands.

In 1832 the UP announce it will set up a garrison and penal colony on the Island, again Britain protests and again the UP does not respond. Britain decides to send some ships to reassert sovereignty.

In October 1832 the UP garrison arrives, within 2 months the men mutinied and murdered the senior officer. In December the British ships at the old British garrison and officially reclaims the Islands.

In January 1833 they arrive at the old French/Spanish settlement where the UP garrison was set up and forced the UP garrison to leave. They persuade all but 5 of the settlers to remain (they were there with British permission).

The UP government officially protested and continued to protest every year until 1850, where after a short war between Argentina and combined British and French forces. A Peace Treaty was signed which did not include any mention of the Falklands, under the law at that time, a peace treaty left all land in the hands of the holders unless specifically mentioned in the treaty. After this, Argentina stopped its annual protest.

Between 1850 and the 1940's only once was the matter raised, when they unofficially asked about arbitration in 1888, Britain replied that the matter was closed. In the 1940's Peron raised it as an issue when they thought we would lose the war and also claimed South Georgia and the sandwich Islands for the first time as well.


Don't forget that Argentina itself is the result of Spanish colonialism, and they murdered the local inhabitants to take the land. Argentina themselves spread South committing genocide against the inhabitants of Patagonia between the 1850's and 1888. Now they want to colonise the Falklands.

Thanks for the history lesson, however paying taxes to protect 1000s of sheep and and the butchers apron isn't good value for money and like the romans this will all come to an end!

We should just give it back to them, costing us far too much money.

WTF!!! It wasn't there's to start with and now we've found oil and gas there they are kicking off again so hoe is that costing us money ? Making us money more like!!! Do your research before making some ill-judged comments

These are the facts, the Malvinas historically have been Spanish, French, Argentinian and British settlements, the imperialist past resulted in the occupation by English speaking colonists. We are paying to defend more sheep than people, thousands of miles away when we are cutting services here! As for possible oil around the island if you read the bp report on shale gas and energy for the next 50 years it's a non starter. Loads of young football fans have given they're lives for the imperialist cause.

You don't half talk shit. Read the history. http://www.falklandshistory.org/

The Spanish never had settlers there, only a garrison.

The British were the first to sail to the islands and claim it in 1596, the British were the first to actually land there a 100 years later. The islands were uninhabited.

The French were the first to send settlers there in 1765, they jumped in as they knew the British were thinking of setting up a base there, which arrived in 1766. At first neither knew the other were there. The Spanish used family ties to force the French to abandon the settlement for which the French were paid their expenses in 1767. In 1770 the Spanish evicted the British, the British prepared for war and increased the navy size (Nelson would never have been able to join the navy without this). The Spanish needed the French to help in any war, obviously the French did not want to help, so the Spanish rebuilt the British garrison it had destroyed and the British returned in 1771.

In 1774 the British left due to cuts and the coming war with the American colonies, they left a flag and a plaque which claimed sovereignty. The Spanish remained in their garrison. Britain always claimed the whole islands, the Spanish just their one island.

In 1778 the Spanish created the Viceroyalty of the Rio de Plata, the southern limit being 41 degrees, the Falklands are at 51 degrees (over a 1000 miles away). the Spanish administered the Falklands garrison from Montevideo in modern day Uruguay, orders coming direct from Madrid.

In the 1780's the Spanish destroyed the British garrison again and stole the flag and plaque (we were at war with them at the time).

In 1810 the Spanish left and left a flag and plaque, the soldiers went to Montevideo to help fight against the insurrection against Spain.

In 1823 a French/German businessman Vernet with his brother in law gain permission from the United provinces to start a business on the Islands raising cattle and hunting seals, this fails within 2 months.

In 1825 Britain signed a commercial agreement with the United Provinces (later Argentina) the first to recognise them.

In 1826 Vernet makes a second attempt and this time he knows of Britain's claims to the islands and gains permission from both the UP and Britain to start his business.

In 1829 the UP appoint him commander of the Falklands (Malvina's as they call them, originating from the French name after the sailors from St.Malmo). On hearing this Britain sends an official protest to the UP government telling them not to assume sovereignty on land that already belongs to Britain. The UP does not even respond.

In 1831 Vernet captures American sealing ships who are hunting without his license. The Americans retaliate by sending a ship, the Lexington, which destroys his defences and removes the majority of settlers, leaving less than 30 on the Islands.

In 1832 the UP announce it will set up a garrison and penal colony on the Island, again Britain protests and again the UP does not respond. Britain decides to send some ships to reassert sovereignty.

In October 1832 the UP garrison arrives, within 2 months the men mutinied and murdered the senior officer. In December the British ships at the old British garrison and officially reclaims the Islands.

In January 1833 they arrive at the old French/Spanish settlement where the UP garrison was set up and forced the UP garrison to leave. They persuade all but 5 of the settlers to remain (they were there with British permission).

The UP government officially protested and continued to protest every year until 1850, where after a short war between Argentina and combined British and French forces. A Peace Treaty was signed which did not include any mention of the Falklands, under the law at that time, a peace treaty left all land in the hands of the holders unless specifically mentioned in the treaty. After this, Argentina stopped its annual protest.

Between 1850 and the 1940's only once was the matter raised, when they unofficially asked about arbitration in 1888, Britain replied that the matter was closed. In the 1940's Peron raised it as an issue when they thought we would lose the war and also claimed South Georgia and the sandwich Islands for the first time as well.


Don't forget that Argentina itself is the result of Spanish colonialism, and they murdered the local inhabitants to take the land. Argentina themselves spread South committing genocide against the inhabitants of Patagonia between the 1850's and 1888. Now they want to colonise the Falklands.

Thanks for the history lesson, however paying taxes to protect 1000s of sheep and and the butchers apron isn't good value for money and like the romans this will all come to an end!

I'm sure tax payers say the same about us the welsh. The big diffidence between Britain and the Romans is that places such as the Falkland Islands want to remain British and have recently overwhelmingly voted in favour of remaining British, until that changes then we have every right to defend them. There's plenty of wasted taxes in the British way of life these days eg giving out free money to migrant workers who have no intentions of working. The money spent on the Falklands however isn't one of them.

Argentina is run by a succession of corrupt governments, this one is worse than many before it. By right they should be a very rich country, problem is they have been mismanaged by people lining their own pockets.

They have been run by dictators and junta's throughout their history and could well go down that path again, the last junta murdered 10's of thousands of their own people, a fate the Falklanders could find for themselves in if we abandoned them.

The costs of our forces in the Falklands is not a major one in our overall spend, the type 45 destroyers are state of the art and if only a part what I have read about their capability is true then the one always in the South Atlantic should send a shiver down the Argentine's spine.

The Argentines themselves have nothing left, as that corrupt witch who runs their country has underfunded it as she is frightened of a coup. One of their ships sunk in port!

Argentina is run by a succession of corrupt governments, this one is worse than many before it. By right they should be a very rich country, problem is they have been mismanaged by people lining their own pockets.

They have been run by dictators and junta's throughout their history and could well go down that path again, the last junta murdered 10's of thousands of their own people, a fate the Falklanders could find for themselves in if we abandoned them.

The costs of our forces in the Falklands is not a major one in our overall spend, the type 45 destroyers are state of the art and if only a part what I have read about their capability is true then the one always in the South Atlantic should send a shiver down the Argentine's spine.

The Argentines themselves have nothing left, as that corrupt witch who runs their country has underfunded it as she is frightened of a coup. One of their ships sunk in port!

Remember Tony Blair a democratic dictator and the carnage caused in Iraq, the only thing that links us all is sheep thousands in the falklands, thousands in Wales many brainwashed by westminister.

Argentina shame on you so no suprise that that evil witch Cristina Fernández de Kirchner is half-german

But in the aftermath of World War II, Argentina’s door was open to a much more sinister group of people: Nazis and Nazi collaborators fleeing Europe in order to escape trial (or, one supposes, a bullet in the head courtesy of Mossad) for their war crimes.

Shameful enough, but it gets worse. Despite an official position of neutrality, it appears that the Argentine government also actively supported Nazi Germany during the war, and that the offer of a safe haven to Nazis after the war was simply an extension of this support.
The main villain of this piece, perhaps unsurprisingly, was Juan Perón. Perón was sympathetic to the Nazi cause and in 1943 traveled to Germany to discuss the possibility of an arms deal between Argentina and Germany.

Investigators believe that following the war, a cabal of ex-Nazis and Nazi collaborators formed in Argentina and worked with the Perón government (he became president in 1946) to organize the emigration of hundreds, perhaps even thousands, of their kind to Argentina. Members of the group frequently travelled to Europe to look for and bring back more of the fugitives.
It’s not known exactly how many ex-Nazis were brought to Argentina during the late 1940s and early 1950s. One researcher identified 300, but there easily could have been more. What is known is that they included Josef Mengele, Adolf Eichmann and his adjutant Franz Stangl, Erich Priebke (a former Captain in the Waffen SS), Klaus Barbie – also known as ‘the Butcher of Lyon’ (a former Captain in the SS and a member of the Gestapo), Ustasha Dinko Šakić (former commandant of the concentration camp that was nicknamed ‘the Auschwitz of the Balkans’) and many, many others.

The ex-Nazis were given landing permits and visas and it has also been claimed that many of them were even given jobs in Perón’s government.

In 1998, while opening the Commission for the Clarification of Nazi Activities in Argentina, the Argentine foreign minister Guido di Tella described the collaboration between Argentina and Nazi Germany as a ‘painful and shameful’ episode in Argentina’s history.

We should just give it back to them, costing us far too much money.

WTF!!! It wasn't there's to start with and now we've found oil and gas there they are kicking off again so hoe is that costing us money ? Making us money more like!!! Do your research before making some ill-judged comments

I agree it is ours and should remain so but it is costing us money. The oil and gas isn't providing a profit yet. When it does the Falkland Islanders will enjoy the spoils not UK ltd. The only thing they will do is pay the cost of the British military presence in the Falklands which is quite considerable.

Stop talking shit. I'm a f*cking shareholder of Falklands Oil and Gas so please don't attempt to tell me what BP are saying as the next 24 months of drilling will tell you another story believe me.

The Falklands have never been Argentinian and never will

I'm an Air Traffic Controller in the RAF and when they were first investigating the oil down off the coast I was stationed there. A helicopter was routing back and fore the rig. We gave a great service to the helicopter and the next night the pilot and one of his pax brought us some goodies. The pax was a guy involved in the drilling process and advised us to get some shares in rockhopper company which I believe was the previous name of Falklands oil and gas. He said in the next couple of months they would be in a position to announce the oil found was a good enough quality to be sold and the shares would rocket. I thought about it but didn't then boom. Announcement mate shares through the roof.

Shall I give you a little longer to get the correct facts or is your assumptions based on some guy claiming to be from BP ? Lol

I only deal in FACT, here is the link http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local ... am-2017302

So you believe links from media wales yet you don't believe any of the links Ive put up!!! Lol Ive heard it all now