Sun May 25, 2014 12:24 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:Another ex Manc they said
Zaha, Fabio, Daehli and Eikrem are only Mancs and 2 of those have been good for us and one has the potential to be good
Lmao
Sun May 25, 2014 12:26 pm
7Summit wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:Another ex Manc they said
Zaha, Fabio, Daehli and Eikrem are only Mancs and 2 of those have been good for us and one has the potential to be good
Lmao
Not for the average city fan who can spot everything about a player in one game. In other parts of the world talent is recognised, given time to settle and develop. That is why teams like Atletico can compete with a budget. Frederico is a potential brilliant signing for when we go back up and all for free
Sun May 25, 2014 12:31 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:7Summit wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:Another ex Manc they said
Zaha, Fabio, Daehli and Eikrem are only Mancs and 2 of those have been good for us and one has the potential to be good
Lmao
Not for the average city fan who can spot everything about a player in one game. In other parts of the world talent is recognised, given time to settle and develop. That is why teams like Atletico can compete with a budget. Frederico is a potential brilliant signing for when we go back up and all for free
I think he's a brilliant signing when you see the form he had at Birmingham. I think we'll be sticking to a budget this season, with the potential signing of Collison as well it seems we're going to aquire a team of freebies but make maybe one marquee signing in Grabban
Sun May 25, 2014 1:04 pm
Sun May 25, 2014 1:10 pm
LonCar wrote:Its worth remembering that none of our players hit 10 goals in the championship last season despite being on a team that won promotion. This guy hit 10 goals for a struggling team. If he can do something similar for us it will be a win win. If he can't then at least he came free and he won't be on a big wage.
Sun May 25, 2014 1:58 pm
Sun May 25, 2014 2:01 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
Sun May 25, 2014 2:05 pm
7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
No surprise opinion there, but their work rate is not the competition. Its scoring goals..
Sun May 25, 2014 2:10 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
No surprise opinion there, but their work rate is not the competition. Its scoring goals..
Pointless scoring the odd goal if you're going to be responsible for your team conceding several with a lack of work rate. Under Ole, I can see us scoring 2 and conceding 5!
Must be hard work for a striker to be a fullback, center back and midfielder at once Sun May 25, 2014 2:27 pm
7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
No surprise opinion there, but their work rate is not the competition. Its scoring goals..
Pointless scoring the odd goal if you're going to be responsible for your team conceding several with a lack of work rate. Under Ole, I can see us scoring 2 and conceding 5!
Of course you canMust be hard work for a striker to be a fullback, center back and midfielder at once
Sun May 25, 2014 2:33 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
No surprise opinion there, but their work rate is not the competition. Its scoring goals..
Pointless scoring the odd goal if you're going to be responsible for your team conceding several with a lack of work rate. Under Ole, I can see us scoring 2 and conceding 5!
Of course you canMust be hard work for a striker to be a fullback, center back and midfielder at once
As a striker, if you don't do the unselfish work of running the channels and getting into positions to give your team an outlet when you're under pressure, your team won't be able to get out. Cornelius when he came on home to Sunderland being the classic example. For you not to understand this and grasp what I'm saying shows how clueless you are about the game.
Sun May 25, 2014 2:46 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
No surprise opinion there, but their work rate is not the competition. Its scoring goals..
Pointless scoring the odd goal if you're going to be responsible for your team conceding several with a lack of work rate. Under Ole, I can see us scoring 2 and conceding 5!
Sun May 25, 2014 3:23 pm
7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
No surprise opinion there, but their work rate is not the competition. Its scoring goals..
Pointless scoring the odd goal if you're going to be responsible for your team conceding several with a lack of work rate. Under Ole, I can see us scoring 2 and conceding 5!
Of course you canMust be hard work for a striker to be a fullback, center back and midfielder at once
As a striker, if you don't do the unselfish work of running the channels and getting into positions to give your team an outlet when you're under pressure, your team won't be able to get out. Cornelius when he came on home to Sunderland being the classic example. For you not to understand this and grasp what I'm saying shows how clueless you are about the game.
I think you are one of the most silly posters on this site when it comes to football. Just watch how guerra uses those channels next season, then compare them to your non scoring notes on Cambell. Sure I am. Clueless
Sun May 25, 2014 3:24 pm
LonCar wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
No surprise opinion there, but their work rate is not the competition. Its scoring goals..
Pointless scoring the odd goal if you're going to be responsible for your team conceding several with a lack of work rate. Under Ole, I can see us scoring 2 and conceding 5!
He doesn't score the odd goal, he is goal poacher. Scored shitloads at Manu reserves under ogs. He is big and strong and knows where the goal is. Pretty much the opposite of Campbell no use in comparing them. One is a work horse with questionable finishing ability the other could be seen as lazy but has no problem finding the back of the net,
I don't think he will be a starter though at least not intially he will probably be behind guerra in the pecking order, but he could be a good man to throw on for a goal. Either way he is free and unlikely to be on big wages.
Sun May 25, 2014 3:36 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
No surprise opinion there, but their work rate is not the competition. Its scoring goals..
Pointless scoring the odd goal if you're going to be responsible for your team conceding several with a lack of work rate. Under Ole, I can see us scoring 2 and conceding 5!
Of course you canMust be hard work for a striker to be a fullback, center back and midfielder at once
As a striker, if you don't do the unselfish work of running the channels and getting into positions to give your team an outlet when you're under pressure, your team won't be able to get out. Cornelius when he came on home to Sunderland being the classic example. For you not to understand this and grasp what I'm saying shows how clueless you are about the game.
I think you are one of the most silly posters on this site when it comes to football. Just watch how guerra uses those channels next season, then compare them to your non scoring notes on Cambell. Sure I am. Clueless
You must have watched Guerra play an awful lot considering you claim to know his game inside out.
Sun May 25, 2014 3:46 pm
7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
No surprise opinion there, but their work rate is not the competition. Its scoring goals..
Pointless scoring the odd goal if you're going to be responsible for your team conceding several with a lack of work rate. Under Ole, I can see us scoring 2 and conceding 5!
Of course you canMust be hard work for a striker to be a fullback, center back and midfielder at once
As a striker, if you don't do the unselfish work of running the channels and getting into positions to give your team an outlet when you're under pressure, your team won't be able to get out. Cornelius when he came on home to Sunderland being the classic example. For you not to understand this and grasp what I'm saying shows how clueless you are about the game.
I think you are one of the most silly posters on this site when it comes to football. Just watch how guerra uses those channels next season, then compare them to your non scoring notes on Cambell. Sure I am. Clueless
You must have watched Guerra play an awful lot considering you claim to know his game inside out.
Yes followed the la liga. His movement is his key feature
Sun May 25, 2014 3:47 pm
7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
No surprise opinion there, but their work rate is not the competition. Its scoring goals..
Pointless scoring the odd goal if you're going to be responsible for your team conceding several with a lack of work rate. Under Ole, I can see us scoring 2 and conceding 5!
Of course you canMust be hard work for a striker to be a fullback, center back and midfielder at once
As a striker, if you don't do the unselfish work of running the channels and getting into positions to give your team an outlet when you're under pressure, your team won't be able to get out. Cornelius when he came on home to Sunderland being the classic example. For you not to understand this and grasp what I'm saying shows how clueless you are about the game.
I think you are one of the most silly posters on this site when it comes to football. Just watch how guerra uses those channels next season, then compare them to your non scoring notes on Cambell. Sure I am. Clueless
You must have watched Guerra play an awful lot considering you claim to know his game inside out.
Yes followed the la liga. His movement is his key feature
Sun May 25, 2014 3:52 pm
Sun May 25, 2014 3:53 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
No surprise opinion there, but their work rate is not the competition. Its scoring goals..
Pointless scoring the odd goal if you're going to be responsible for your team conceding several with a lack of work rate. Under Ole, I can see us scoring 2 and conceding 5!
Of course you canMust be hard work for a striker to be a fullback, center back and midfielder at once
As a striker, if you don't do the unselfish work of running the channels and getting into positions to give your team an outlet when you're under pressure, your team won't be able to get out. Cornelius when he came on home to Sunderland being the classic example. For you not to understand this and grasp what I'm saying shows how clueless you are about the game.
I think you are one of the most silly posters on this site when it comes to football. Just watch how guerra uses those channels next season, then compare them to your non scoring notes on Cambell. Sure I am. Clueless
You must have watched Guerra play an awful lot considering you claim to know his game inside out.
Yes followed the la liga. His movement is his key feature
I've seen footage of his goals and he does seem to have excellent movement to be fair. I think Guerra will be a success for us but I'm not liking the Macheda signing at all. Hopefully Macheda will prove me wrong though.
Sun May 25, 2014 4:19 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
Sun May 25, 2014 4:21 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
Yet speaking to a Birmigham supporting friend of mine, and they are devastated that he is possibly going to another club in the championship.
His commitment and passion for a club he wasn't actually belonging to, was remarkable, apparently.
A hungry striker, ready to show his worth, who scored 10 in 18 in a struggling side, for free.
What the hell is there to moan about?!
Sun May 25, 2014 4:25 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:LonCar wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
No surprise opinion there, but their work rate is not the competition. Its scoring goals..
Pointless scoring the odd goal if you're going to be responsible for your team conceding several with a lack of work rate. Under Ole, I can see us scoring 2 and conceding 5!
He doesn't score the odd goal, he is goal poacher. Scored shitloads at Manu reserves under ogs. He is big and strong and knows where the goal is. Pretty much the opposite of Campbell no use in comparing them. One is a work horse with questionable finishing ability the other could be seen as lazy but has no problem finding the back of the net,
I don't think he will be a starter though at least not intially he will probably be behind guerra in the pecking order, but he could be a good man to throw on for a goal. Either way he is free and unlikely to be on big wages.
If you gave me a choice out of a striker who's a work horse with questionable finishing ability and a lazy striker with good finishing ability, I would take the work horse with questionable finishing ability every time.
Sun May 25, 2014 4:31 pm
LonCar wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:LonCar wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:7Summit wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:It worries me how Ole is bringing in players who do not have the required character for a 46 game slog in the Championship. I watched Macheda a couple of times for Doncaster and he looked disinterested and it seems he will go missing in games when the chips are down. The difference between Macheda's work rate and Campbell's work rate are miles apart. We will have no chance being able to grind out results on a cold Tuesday night away to Brentford with players like Macheda in the team imo.
No surprise opinion there, but their work rate is not the competition. Its scoring goals..
Pointless scoring the odd goal if you're going to be responsible for your team conceding several with a lack of work rate. Under Ole, I can see us scoring 2 and conceding 5!
He doesn't score the odd goal, he is goal poacher. Scored shitloads at Manu reserves under ogs. He is big and strong and knows where the goal is. Pretty much the opposite of Campbell no use in comparing them. One is a work horse with questionable finishing ability the other could be seen as lazy but has no problem finding the back of the net,
I don't think he will be a starter though at least not intially he will probably be behind guerra in the pecking order, but he could be a good man to throw on for a goal. Either way he is free and unlikely to be on big wages.
If you gave me a choice out of a striker who's a work horse with questionable finishing ability and a lazy striker with good finishing ability, I would take the work horse with questionable finishing ability every time.
It's not a choice between him and Campbell they are very different ( if Campbell wants to stay he will as ogs and the club are going out of their way to convince him to stay its clear that ogs values his qualities). My guess is jones will go and I think macheda is a better option , he is younger, on less money and has bigger potential. The fact that he already enjoyed a good working relationship with ogs is a bonus. He also has something to prove.