' VINCENT TAN CONSIDERS RETURN TO BLUE. '

This is the first time these words have crossed his lips publicly, we must keep the Blue campaign going and get it bigger than it has ever been, his timing at the end of the season is designed to calm us down over the close season but we should rally behind the Blue in May, June and July to make sure that if we are red in the Championship, every man and his dog turns up in Blue all next season.

This is the start of a climb down, backtrack, change of mind or whatever you want to call it but we must get stronger and keep it in his face that we are Blue.

This is the first time these words have crossed his lips publicly, we must keep the Blue campaign going and get it bigger than it has ever been, his timing at the end of the season is designed to calm us down over the close season but we should rally behind the Blue in May, June and July to make sure that if we are red in the Championship, every man and his dog turns up in Blue all next season.

This is the start of a climb down, backtrack, change of mind or whatever you want to call it but we must get stronger and keep it in his face that we are Blue.

call me cynical but , this the way I see it. He is saying this so we wont protest next season, while the players continue in his red shirt, and if we somehow made it up next season. Then he would just go on about his lucky red again . If he really wanted to compromise he would do it now for next season

Look on the brightside gents, he is saying that compromise is now a real possibility, of course changing back to blue for next season would be preferable but I'll settle for the season after if we come back up, perhaps deals with the new kit manufacturer's are already in place etc etc, who knows perhaps he is just trying to pacify us.

Hes hinting at a return to blue and allowing a fan onto the board, im happy with this man as owner, other than not changing the badge he has kept his word on most things and I see no reason to think this is a lie.

This should be seen as a big step forward for the fans in terms of ongoing dialogue and unity with the owner.

Nah your right he's just trying to pacify us and I don't see how you can defend his integrity. Looks like this little bullshit interview is already working on some fans.

Might be looking into this wrong, but my take on it is that he wants to get us promoted, make us worth a lot more to any interested parties, then his compromise would simply be to sell us and leave NOT turn us back to blue

You said it, its the old trick of lets keep the fire down this season in regards of protests and tan out comming from the stands and if we get back to the prem we will turn blue......when most know this will not happen as the bandwagon prem fans will be back on board in there seats not giving to hoots about anything other than the so called rooneys on the pitch from the away teams

The heratige of the club is not up for compromise, we have no association to a dragon, blue with a dragon badge is not acceptable if the bluebird is shown the disrespect that it has been shown with the current monstrosity of a badge.

Tan clearly cannot be trusted, he wants to sell the club as a red club. This much is apparent.

This is the first time these words have crossed his lips publicly, we must keep the Blue campaign going and get it bigger than it has ever been, his timing at the end of the season is designed to calm us down over the close season but we should rally behind the Blue in May, June and July to make sure that if we are red in the Championship, every man and his dog turns up in Blue all next season.

This is the start of a climb down, backtrack, change of mind or whatever you want to call it but we must get stronger and keep it in his face that we are Blue.

call me cynical but , this the way I see it. He is saying this so we wont protest next season, while the players continue in his red shirt, and if we somehow made it up next season. Then he would just go on about his lucky red again . If he really wanted to compromise he would do it now for next season

Spot on Darren

he will just give us blue shorts knowing tan

The guy is a f*cking LIAR. Two years ago he promised to convert debt to equity as part of the rebrand package, whether you accepted it or not that was his promise. He has thrown obstacles and excuses in the way and now the latest one has been dealt with he now says he'll "consider" converting a third.

He obviously knows what the fans want (so much for his 5%). He says the only way he can recoup his money is by being in Premier League. The best chance this club has to get back to the Premier League is by everyone pulling together and the only way that is going to happen is by returning to our true colours. If he really is that interested and such a clever business man why doesn't he make the most simple and sensible decision. It has literally become everyone against his rebrand, the fans, media, ex players, even the manager has let it known he understands our traditions.

It's obvious his ego is more important than the clubs best interests.

TANOUT.

This is the first time these words have crossed his lips publicly, we must keep the Blue campaign going and get it bigger than it has ever been, his timing at the end of the season is designed to calm us down over the close season but we should rally behind the Blue in May, June and July to make sure that if we are red in the Championship, every man and his dog turns up in Blue all next season.

This is the start of a climb down, backtrack, change of mind or whatever you want to call it but we must get stronger and keep it in his face that we are Blue.

call me cynical but , this the way I see it. He is saying this so we wont protest next season, while the players continue in his red shirt, and if we somehow made it up next season. Then he would just go on about his lucky red again . If he really wanted to compromise he would do it now for next season

Spot on Darren

Completely agree.

As he has done plenty of times before he's putting a statement out to try and dupe the fans again.
If he had any real intention of compromising it would be now.
He's trying to quell the protests in my opinion.

Perhaps Tan is unwilling to be seen losing this "fight" against the fans (because of vanity), but is planning to re-rebrand in a way that doesn't make him look quite as bad? He HAS to know by now that the rebrand is hurting the club''s image.

Well that was very f*cking optimistic of me, I doubt it

This is the first time these words have crossed his lips publicly, we must keep the Blue campaign going and get it bigger than it has ever been, his timing at the end of the season is designed to calm us down over the close season but we should rally behind the Blue in May, June and July to make sure that if we are red in the Championship, every man and his dog turns up in Blue all next season.

This is the start of a climb down, backtrack, change of mind or whatever you want to call it but we must get stronger and keep it in his face that we are Blue.

call me cynical but , this the way I see it. He is saying this so we wont protest next season, while the players continue in his red shirt, and if we somehow made it up next season. Then he would just go on about his lucky red again . If he really wanted to compromise he would do it now for next season

Spot on Darren

Completely agree.

As he has done plenty of times before he's putting a statement out to try and dupe the fans again.
If he had any real intention of compromising it would be now.
He's trying to quell the protests in my opinion.

Of course he is. I cant believe people are falling for this bullshit

This is the first time these words have crossed his lips publicly, we must keep the Blue campaign going and get it bigger than it has ever been, his timing at the end of the season is designed to calm us down over the close season but we should rally behind the Blue in May, June and July to make sure that if we are red in the Championship, every man and his dog turns up in Blue all next season.

This is the start of a climb down, backtrack, change of mind or whatever you want to call it but we must get stronger and keep it in his face that we are Blue.

call me cynical but , this the way I see it. He is saying this so we wont protest next season, while the players continue in his red shirt, and if we somehow made it up next season. Then he would just go on about his lucky red again . If he really wanted to compromise he would do it now for next season

Spot on Darren

You have to work with what you are dealt with though and it's a better hand than we had 12months ago.

What would a compromise look like though? A blue and red kit with the old badge?

i find this alarming if im honest.

the debt to equity was promised, then promised again, then it would be done when the court case was over, and now hes going to consider only a third?

The most important part of this interview is the mention of only a third of the debt turning to equity and even then it only says he will consider it.

Obviously the blue is important to US but as an ongoing entity the debt should be of more concern to the club.

Was this a statement or an interview? If it was an interview why wasn't the "third of debt" sentence jumped upon.

Why only a third now?

Anyway the whole piece is to placate us for a year while we are out of the promised land. If he gets us up straight away he can then afford to ignore the rebrand issue again as many fans will just be happy with the Premier League again.

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My take on it is. We should let him know that so far the protests have been peaceful. If he doesn't turn us back to blue next season they will start to turn and will affect the players on the pitch and results. Resulting in less chance of us going up and less chance he will get his money back.

.....If he doesn't turn us back to blue next season they will start to turn and will affect the players on the pitch and results.....

No

A step in the right direction, yes. But I'm not convinced. I won't believe anything from him until I see it, he's just trying to get fans on side.

We still need to keep the blue campaign going though. His words that there may be a U turn should get more people fighting for it, as it's obviously not a lost cause

As others have said the key thing here is that he has basically acknowledged the fans wish to return to blue. The problem is the ego of a man not used to being wrong or at least having to admit it, or bowing to the will of the people. The danger is the more vitriolic fans get the more entrenched he will become.

I hope that the right people (fans, pro blue directors) can get around a table with him and take the opportunity to press home the desire to return to blue. However it must be done in a professional and skilled way, to make him understand that everybody, especially VT, benefits with blue. Ultimately we have a common goal - the success of the football club on and off the pitch - something that any successful negotiation recognises. He gets fans on side and reunited, more merchandising revenue for the club, he becomes a hero (a little ego massaging / exaggeration will be worth it!) etc etc and ultimately we become a more saleable asset should he want out.

Nothing wrong with keeping the blue profile high and protesting as long as it's constructive. However I fear that if the hatred building up against him gets too hysterical, too personal, it will only serve to harm the ultimate aim by pushing him into a corner where his pride and stubbornness won't allow him to do the right thing for all parties. Then everybody loses - VT remains a villain and becomes a lot poorer but more importantly the Club could find itself on the brink of disaster.

As others have said the key thing here is that he has basically acknowledged the fans wish to return to blue. The problem is the ego of a man not used to being wrong or at least having to admit it, or bowing to the will of the people. The danger is the more vitriolic fans get the more entrenched he will become.

I hope that the right people (fans, pro blue directors) can get around a table with him and take the opportunity to press home the desire to return to blue. However it must be done in a professional and skilled way, to make him understand that everybody, especially VT, benefits with blue. Ultimately we have a common goal - the success of the football club on and off the pitch - something that any successful negotiation recognises. He gets fans on side and reunited, more merchandising revenue for the club, he becomes a hero (a little ego massaging / exaggeration will be worth it!) etc etc and ultimately we become a more saleable asset should he want out.

Nothing wrong with keeping the blue profile high and protesting as long as it's constructive. However I fear that if the hatred building up against him gets too hysterical, too personal, it will only serve to harm the ultimate aim by pushing him into a corner where his pride and stubbornness won't allow him to do the right thing for all parties. Then everybody loses - VT remains a villain and becomes a lot poorer but more importantly the Club could find itself on the brink of disaster.

This^^^ - dialogue with him is the key.

BillyLiar name would suit tan on here

My take on it is. We should let him know that so far the protests have been peaceful. If he doesn't turn us back to blue next season they will start to turn and will affect the players on the pitch and results. Resulting in less chance of us going up and less chance he will get his money back.

My take is that you are a f*cking moron and should be fucked off.We have achieved quite alot by peaceful means and that should continue.Only complete f*cking idiots think we can get what we want by name calling and resorting to tactics that are not peaceful.So far in the main we have had the support of the media and the greater general footballing public.Mongo tactics will resort to arrests and the media just refering to us as a hooligan element of the club.

BillyLiar name would suit tan on here

nah Vinny Liar Owain a request please can you change my ID name to vinnyliar please

My take on it is. We should let him know that so far the protests have been peaceful. If he doesn't turn us back to blue next season they will start to turn and will affect the players on the pitch and results. Resulting in less chance of us going up and less chance he will get his money back.

My take is that you are a f*cking moron and should be fucked off.We have achieved quite alot by peaceful means and that should continue.Only complete f*cking idiots think we can get what we want by name calling and resorting to tactics that are not peaceful.So far in the main we have had the support of the media and the greater general footballing public.Mongo tactics will resort to arrests and the media just refering to us as a hooligan element of the club.

What colour are the new seats going to be now ????

If we are turning back blue they would have to be blue, you wouldn't fit red seats if you intend to switch back to blue the following season ???

So its gone from debt to equity once the legal proceedings have finished to 'considering' making ONE THIRD of the debt equity

The man is a liar and a manipulator and I do not understand how anyone can back him?!

As others have said the key thing here is that he has basically acknowledged the fans wish to return to blue. The problem is the ego of a man not used to being wrong or at least having to admit it, or bowing to the will of the people. The danger is the more vitriolic fans get the more entrenched he will become.

I hope that the right people (fans, pro blue directors) can get around a table with him and take the opportunity to press home the desire to return to blue. However it must be done in a professional and skilled way, to make him understand that everybody, especially VT, benefits with blue. Ultimately we have a common goal - the success of the football club on and off the pitch - something that any successful negotiation recognises. He gets fans on side and reunited, more merchandising revenue for the club, he becomes a hero (a little ego massaging / exaggeration will be worth it!) etc etc and ultimately we become a more saleable asset should he want out.

Nothing wrong with keeping the blue profile high and protesting as long as it's constructive. However I fear that if the hatred building up against him gets too hysterical, too personal, it will only serve to harm the ultimate aim by pushing him into a corner where his pride and stubbornness won't allow him to do the right thing for all parties. Then everybody loses - VT remains a villain and becomes a lot poorer but more importantly the Club could find itself on the brink of disaster.

This

What colour are the new seats going to be now ????

If we are turning back blue they would have to be blue, you wouldn't fit red seats if you intend to switch back to blue the following season ???

Blue seats he means it red he doesn't ????

My take on it is. We should let him know that so far the protests have been peaceful. If he doesn't turn us back to blue next season they will start to turn and will affect the players on the pitch and results. Resulting in less chance of us going up and less chance he will get his money back.

My take is that you are a f*cking moron and should be fucked off.We have achieved quite alot by peaceful means and that should continue.Only complete f*cking idiots think we can get what we want by name calling and resorting to tactics that are not peaceful.So far in the main we have had the support of the media and the greater general footballing public.Mongo tactics will resort to arrests and the media just refering to us as a hooligan element of the club.

You're too thick too realize that I said "Let him know". Not to do it. He's playing us with words so do the same back.

Sorry but I have read this over and over and no it does not say he is considering turning us back to blue. It says he will look for a solution and compromise, totally different from what people are assuming. Beware, he will not change our home colour back to blue, the compromise will be when we play away ( in my view). This man is not to be taken on his word or trusted.

Why should anyone be surprised by this latest movement of the goalposts as this has happened time and time again since this guy become involved with the club. At the time of the rebrand he actually said that when certain "Historical" issues had been dealt with that he would concert his loans to equity leaving the club "Virtually" debt free.

I don't know what world this guy lives in but obviously he sees our club being £100m in debt as being "Virtually" debt free. Unbelieveable.

As regards this carrot of let's get back to the PL and we will look at the team colours, bollocks, this man is insincere and the offer, in my opinion, is worthless. We need to keep this "Blue" protest up at every home match, away games are a sea of blue anyway, but we also need to up the ante on this guy and make sure that as few as possible buy the red shirt or any other rebrand goods.

I'm no accountant but if this guy is into the club for £150m, and if it's unsecured, then he has dug a deep hole for himself if he wants to see that money again.

Keep the pressure up and above all else don't believe any promise he makes, they are absolutely worthless.