Annis just asked me

Ole was or is not Tans man, he was Dehmets man who convinced Tan to take a punt on him. Dave Jones was Tans man, if Ole is to stay then we need to out atleast 90% of this squad.

Of course Ole is Tans man, Tan makes the final decisions and Tan owns the club. Delman has no real authority,another puppet on a string, a fact.

That's how i see it. To me Vincent Tan is a meglomaniac that controls everything with little regard for other's opinions.

All business people are

Not true. and quite frankly Craig , that's ridiculously simplistic from you.

Name one successful businessman who isnt. I mean in big league business

You've already changed it from 'business' to 'big business'.

I wouldn't describe Bill Gates as a Meglomaniac with little regard for others opinions Craig. Are you seriously saying Richard Branson is in the mould of a modern day Malaysian despot Craig. C'mon Craig stop defending this poisinous monied cretin

Regardless of the personnel ole still is out of his depth tactically! Our set up is always wrong, there is never any solidarity at the back you cn never actually see a back line of 4! we can't retain possesion and we don't have enough upfront to create or score...

He consistently picks KTC who is far worse than super Kev.

Ole was or is not Tans man, he was Dehmets man who convinced Tan to take a punt on him. Dave Jones was Tans man, if Ole is to stay then we need to out atleast 90% of this squad.

Of course Ole is Tans man, Tan makes the final decisions and Tan owns the club. Delman has no real authority,another puppet on a string, a fact.

That's how i see it. To me Vincent Tan is a meglomaniac that controls everything with little regard for other's opinions.

All business people are

Not true. and quite frankly Craig , that's ridiculously simplistic from you.

Name one successful businessman who isnt. I mean in big league business

You've already changed it from 'business' to 'big business'.

I wouldn't describe Bill Gates as a Meglomaniac with little regard for others opinions Craig. Are you seriously saying Richard Branson is in the mould of a modern day Malaysian despot Craig. C'mon Craig stop defending this poisinous monied cretin

Hmmmmm so Branson didnt threaten the government when he didnt get his own way regarding Virgin trains and the certain route from London which forced the government to retract an accepted offer from anothr firm.

If you dont know Bill gates' history then he is the worst example to use as a defense.

Im not defending Tan, just saying he is no different to other billionaires.....Abramovich?? Randy Lerner??

Ole was or is not Tans man, he was Dehmets man who convinced Tan to take a punt on him. Dave Jones was Tans man, if Ole is to stay then we need to out atleast 90% of this squad.

Of course Ole is Tans man, Tan makes the final decisions and Tan owns the club. Delman has no real authority,another puppet on a string, a fact.

That's how i see it. To me Vincent Tan is a meglomaniac that controls everything with little regard for other's opinions.

All business people are

Not true. and quite frankly Craig , that's ridiculously simplistic from you.

Name one successful businessman who isnt. I mean in big league business

You've already changed it from 'business' to 'big business'.

I wouldn't describe Bill Gates as a Meglomaniac with little regard for others opinions Craig. Are you seriously saying Richard Branson is in the mould of a modern day Malaysian despot Craig. C'mon Craig stop defending this poisinous monied cretin[/quote

Agree. Craig has worshipped a false idol who has indeed lead us to the promised land but it's called the championship.

Ole was or is not Tans man, he was Dehmets man who convinced Tan to take a punt on him. Dave Jones was Tans man, if Ole is to stay then we need to out atleast 90% of this squad.

Of course Ole is Tans man, Tan makes the final decisions and Tan owns the club. Delman has no real authority,another puppet on a string, a fact.

What Im saying is that Ole was not Tan's 1st choice, it was DJ. I/we was asked an opinion and I gave it, this is what led to believe, whether it is true or not is totally irrelevant.

Richard your right there, Tan did choose DJ first and even shook hands on it, then later changed his mind.

That is exactly what I said, Mehmet and Tans other advisers convinced Tan that Ole was the right man but there again it just shows how poorly a club we are when we actually have NOBODY there that knows anything about football. We have a squad full of ultra defensive players and we appoint a manager that knows nothing but attacking football. Now considering Ole inherited a load of heavily scrutinised players you'd have thought they had the stomach for a battle, no matter how much you try to rally that shower of shit they let us all down badly. With the squad we have we'd have been better going in for Pulis but then stuck with the shite football we endured earlier. If Ole is to stay then from that team today Id only keep Marshall, Whittingham, Caulker & Daehli, Mutch. Medel IMO is a complete liability that makes Cornelious look like a bargain.

Dead wood? Like Jones, Berget, Fabio and Eikrem?

KTC, cowie, Taylor, medel, Bellamy, gunnarsson, kenwyne jones need to be shipped out.

Dead wood? Like Jones, Berget, Fabio and Eikrem?

KTC, cowie, Taylor, medel, Bellamy, gunnarsson, kenwyne jones need to be shipped out.

In fairness Berget & Eikrem were never going to be ready for this season

Ole was or is not Tans man, he was Dehmets man who convinced Tan to take a punt on him. Dave Jones was Tans man, if Ole is to stay then we need to out atleast 90% of this squad.

Of course Ole is Tans man, Tan makes the final decisions and Tan owns the club. Delman has no real authority,another puppet on a string, a fact.

That's how i see it. To me Vincent Tan is a meglomaniac that controls everything with little regard for other's opinions.

All business people are

Not true. and quite frankly Craig , that's ridiculously simplistic from you.

Name one successful businessman who isnt. I mean in big league business

You've already changed it from 'business' to 'big business'.

I wouldn't describe Bill Gates as a Meglomaniac with little regard for others opinions Craig. Are you seriously saying Richard Branson is in the mould of a modern day Malaysian despot Craig. C'mon Craig stop defending this poisinous monied cretin

Hmmmmm so Branson didnt threaten the government when he didnt get his own way regarding Virgin trains and the certain route from London which forced the government to retract an accepted offer from anothr firm.

If you dont know Bill gates' history then he is the worst example to use as a defense.

Im not defending Tan, just saying he is no different to other billionaires.....Abramovich?? Randy Lerner??

You can disagree with whitehall 'experts' without being a meglomaniac with little regard for peoples opinions. Absurd way to measure a mans character.

Bill Gates is far too honest and well meaning to be a Vincent Tan.

Ambramovich? What has he done ? Apart from win the Russian version of Euro millions when the Berlin wall collapsed.

Dead wood? Like Jones, Berget, Fabio and Eikrem?

KTC, cowie, Taylor, medel, Bellamy, gunnarsson, kenwyne jones need to be shipped out.

Why Bellamy? More trouble than he's worth? Or purely on football ability?

You think Abramovich is of fine standing??? f**k me!!!

You claim Gates is giving.... so is Tan as half his wealth is going to charity upon his death.

You think Abramovich is of fine standing??? f**k me!!!

You claim Gates is giving.... so is Tan as half his wealth is going to charity upon his death.

What makes Ambramovic a meglomaniac Craig? To be fair i've not made any pressumptions about him. You brought him into the subject.

I didn't say Gates was giving, i said he was honest and well meaning. Which is nothing like your hero Vincent Tan who definately is a meglomaniac with little regard for others opinions.

Vincent Tan shouldn't have to wait until he's dead. Why? Bill Gates and Warren Buffet haven't.

Ole was or is not Tans man, he was Dehmets man who convinced Tan to take a punt on him. Dave Jones was Tans man, if Ole is to stay then we need to out atleast 90% of this squad.

Of course Ole is Tans man, Tan makes the final decisions and Tan owns the club. Delman has no real authority,another puppet on a string, a fact.

What Im saying is that Ole was not Tan's 1st choice, it was DJ. I/we was asked an opinion and I gave it, this is what led to believe, whether it is true or not is totally irrelevant.

Richard your right there, Tan did choose DJ first and even shook hands on it, then later changed his mind.

That is exactly what I said, Mehmet and Tans other advisers convinced Tan that Ole was the right man but there again it just shows how poorly a club we are when we actually have NOBODY there that knows anything about football. We have a squad full of ultra defensive players and we appoint a manager that knows nothing but attacking football. Now considering Ole inherited a load of heavily scrutinised players you'd have thought they had the stomach for a battle, no matter how much you try to rally that shower of shit they let us all down badly. With the squad we have we'd have been better going in for Pulis but then stuck with the shite football we endured earlier. If Ole is to stay then from that team today Id only keep Marshall, Whittingham, Caulker & Daehli, Mutch. Medel IMO is a complete liability that makes Cornelious look like a bargain.

Tan ordered Ole to play more attacking like his beloved Man Utd. It's all Tans fault.

You think Abramovich is of fine standing??? f**k me!!!

You claim Gates is giving.... so is Tan as half his wealth is going to charity upon his death.

What makes Ambramovic a meglomaniac Craig? To be fair i've not made any pressumptions about him. You brought him into the subject.

I didn't say Gates was giving, i said he was honest and well meaning. Which is nothing like your hero Vincent Tan who definately is a meglomaniac with little regard for others opinions.

Vincent Tan shouldn't have to wait until he's dead. Why? Bill Gates and Warren Buffet haven't.

Google Tan, he is a well regarded philanthropist and has given away millions upon millions already, aswell as pledging half his 1.6billion fortune away.

Abramovich not a meglomaniac???? Just read about him, hes more of a loon than Tan

Ole was or is not Tans man, he was Dehmets man who convinced Tan to take a punt on him. Dave Jones was Tans man, if Ole is to stay then we need to out atleast 90% of this squad.

Of course Ole is Tans man, Tan makes the final decisions and Tan owns the club. Delman has no real authority,another puppet on a string, a fact.

What Im saying is that Ole was not Tan's 1st choice, it was DJ. I/we was asked an opinion and I gave it, this is what led to believe, whether it is true or not is totally irrelevant.

Richard your right there, Tan did choose DJ first and even shook hands on it, then later changed his mind.

That is exactly what I said, Mehmet and Tans other advisers convinced Tan that Ole was the right man but there again it just shows how poorly a club we are when we actually have NOBODY there that knows anything about football. We have a squad full of ultra defensive players and we appoint a manager that knows nothing but attacking football. Now considering Ole inherited a load of heavily scrutinised players you'd have thought they had the stomach for a battle, no matter how much you try to rally that shower of shit they let us all down badly. With the squad we have we'd have been better going in for Pulis but then stuck with the shite football we endured earlier. If Ole is to stay then from that team today Id only keep Marshall, Whittingham, Caulker & Daehli, Mutch. Medel IMO is a complete liability that makes Cornelious look like a bargain.

Tan ordered Ole to play more attacking like his beloved Man Utd. It's all Tans fault.

Correct.Ole is clearly being influenced by Tan who has already asked for more shots on goal and more going forward. The way Ole plays you would think we have Sturbridge and Suarez up front.

You think Abramovich is of fine standing??? f**k me!!!

You claim Gates is giving.... so is Tan as half his wealth is going to charity upon his death.

What makes Ambramovic a meglomaniac Craig? To be fair i've not made any pressumptions about him. You brought him into the subject.

I didn't say Gates was giving, i said he was honest and well meaning. Which is nothing like your hero Vincent Tan who definately is a meglomaniac with little regard for others opinions.

Vincent Tan shouldn't have to wait until he's dead. Why? Bill Gates and Warren Buffet haven't.

Google Tan, he is a well regarded philanthropist and has given away millions upon millions already, aswell as pledging half his 1.6billion fortune away.

Abramovich not a meglomaniac???? Just read about him, hes more of a loon than Tan

For a start, Tan is not in the american league of givers despite matching their wealth, plus, Gates and Buffet sacrifice a lot more than money, they argue for equal oppurtunity at the exspense of their own kids garaunteed sucess under the current system. They aren't driven to horde money and power for the sake of control over the small people.
For instance Warren Buffet argues against inherited wealth or a monopoly of power handed down through families. Gates and Buffet, these are truly great men who are enriching the human race. On the otherhand V.Tan is a man from a Malaysian dictatorship who seems comfortable throwing money around and buying things from wealth amassed under a corrupt regime. but unable to make true human sacrifices or show any regard or respect for the view of small people. although you've done well in reducing this issue onto pounds and pence given, as opposed to behaviour that marks Tan as a Meglomaniac with little regard for people opinions. It's not all about money Craig, I don't klnow what it is with you Neo Liberals.

Ambramovic, That's like me saying the moon is made of cheese and when you ask me why, i say ' go and read about it'

You truly are a clef.

You hate Tan so much because of the rebrand you cant even admit when he does noble work for charity.

blinkered and a fool

Ole doesn't give us a structure or solidarity. Our tactics are wrong on many occasions and we have no defence.

He continues to play ktc who is woeful and continuously ball watches time and time again.

Our failure to bring in quality in the January transfer window has cost . Palace and hull brought in great transfers in January and its proven.

We don't defend well, we don't retain possession enough and we don't create enough chances.

Ole is not the right person...

i would say our failure to bring in quality in the summer transfer window has cost us more than the january window

You truly are a clef.

You hate Tan so much because of the rebrand you cant even admit when he does noble work for charity.

blinkered and a fool

It's about whether Tan is a meglomaniac compared to Gates and Buffet, not a charity competition, are you that easily bought?

You truly are a clef.

You hate Tan so much because of the rebrand you cant even admit when he does noble work for charity.

blinkered and a fool

It's about whether Tan is a meglomaniac compared to Gates and Buffet, not a charity competition, are you that easily bought?

So Bill gates and the whole Windows on every PC that he got done for wadnt meglomania? Or the internet explorer fiasco??

I will not call tan all those things because he changed a shirt colour, no matter how much I dislike it because he has done many many good things when you look at his life.

You truly are a clef.

You hate Tan so much because of the rebrand you cant even admit when he does noble work for charity.

blinkered and a fool

It's about whether Tan is a meglomaniac compared to Gates and Buffet, not a charity competition, are you that easily bought?

So Bill gates and the whole Windows on every PC that he got done for wadnt meglomania? Or the internet explorer fiasco??

I will not call tan all those things because he changed a shirt colour, no matter how much I dislike it because he has done many many good things when you look at his life.

i give up with you neo liberals

You truly are a clef.

You hate Tan so much because of the rebrand you cant even admit when he does noble work for charity.

blinkered and a fool

It's about whether Tan is a meglomaniac compared to Gates and Buffet, not a charity competition, are you that easily bought?

So Bill gates and the whole Windows on every PC that he got done for wadnt meglomania? Or the internet explorer fiasco??

I will not call tan all those things because he changed a shirt colour, no matter how much I dislike it because he has done many many good things when you look at his life.

i give up with you neo liberals

Thats one thing im not

You truly are a clef.

You hate Tan so much because of the rebrand you cant even admit when he does noble work for charity.

blinkered and a fool

It's about whether Tan is a meglomaniac compared to Gates and Buffet, not a charity competition, are you that easily bought?

So Bill gates and the whole Windows on every PC that he got done for wadnt meglomania? Or the internet explorer fiasco??

I will not call tan all those things because he changed a shirt colour, no matter how much I dislike it because he has done many many good things when you look at his life.

i give up with you neo liberals

Thats one thing im not

What a camp reply, are your hands on your hips?

Craig, i'm feeling a bit tired so i'm going for a lie down, please for the sake of global poverty see past Vincent Tans money.

Havent bothered reading most of this.
Nowis thetimetonot look forscapegoats. It seems some that some fans have been more concerned with the colour change than anything else! They love the chance to slag off OGS and say I told you so.
Of course we need to give OG S a chance. Today OGS wanted to keep it tight for 60 mins then change the formation. Poor defending at a corner caused the first goal when we looked comfortable. The main problem today was a stupid touch by Cala followed by a stupid decision by the ref. Until thenwe were in with a chance playing ittight and looking.

On a seperate point... Why the f did we sign Kenwynne Jones???????. Should have stuck with Cornelius rather than him!

Havent bothered reading most of this.
Nowis thetimetonot look forscapegoats. It seems some that some fans have been more concerned with the colour change than anything else! They love the chance to slag off OGS and say I told you so.
Of course we need to give OG S a chance. Today OGS wanted to keep it tight for 60 mins then change the formation. Poor defending at a corner caused the first goal when we looked comfortable. The main problem today was a stupid touch by Cala followed by a stupid decision by the ref. Until thenwe were in with a chance playing ittight and looking.

On a seperate point... Why the f did we sign Kenwynne Jones???????. Should have stuck with Cornelius rather than him!

Can Ole get us relegated next season?

I remember now why I rarely read or post on here, Christ almighty. Who gives a shit about Bill Gates, etc.......

Assuming we lose Marshall, Caulker and Medel in the summer our squad would be:-

GK - Lewis, Moore
DR - Fabio, TC, Brayford, McNaughton
DL - Taylor, John, Lappin
DC - Cala, Hudson, Connolly, Turner (contract?)
DM - Gunnarson, Whittingham (contract?), Cowie, Eikrem, Kiss
AM - Mutch, Noone, Daehli, Kim, Harris, Ralls, Smith (contract?)
STR - Campbell, Jones, Maynard, Mason, Berget, Velikonja

Apart from at goalkeeper our squad is stronger than the one Malky won the Championship with. I'd be hugely disappointed if Ole couldn't do the same with a similar £10m transfer kitty.

Im ssurprised you have not mentioned Jordan Mutch I think he will be gone. For me Medel hasn't been the same player under Ole

We look ok under ole except we needed a good striker or two we never got the goal power we needed when we got the the premiership. I blame Malky and moody for that they must take a very big part of the blame...

Give OGS next season be stupid not to. Personally think Malky would've kept us up but we'll never know.

We look ok under ole except we needed a good striker or two we never got the goal power we needed when we got the the premiership. I blame Malky and moody for that they must take a very big part of the blame...

We're getting hammered every game under Ole, it's not even competitive

Give OGS next season be stupid not to. Personally think Malky would've kept us up but we'll never know.

Next season he could take us down? Are you willing to risk a season with such an obvious failiure?