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Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:11 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:I don't take anything as anything.

Im here to discuss football. If someone acts like a dick then i tell them, moderator or not, much to your annoyance.

If I was on here to not be serious then the last thing i would do in jest is make up vile things about violent home lives.

The fact is you take it more serious than anyone, hence you feel the need to stoop to the above.

I was going to say quit while you are behind, im glad to see you decided to :laughing6:


Your such a big man are you not Philip. You tell them behind your keyboard. What a hero. :lol:

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:26 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:I don't take anything as anything.

Im here to discuss football. If someone acts like a dick then i tell them, moderator or not, much to your annoyance.

If I was on here to not be serious then the last thing i would do in jest is make up vile things about violent home lives.

The fact is you take it more serious than anyone, hence you feel the need to stoop to the above.

I was going to say quit while you are behind, im glad to see you decided to :laughing6:


Your such a big man are you not Philip. You tell them behind your keyboard. What a hero. :lol:


You're.

If you insist on lashing out in frustrated anger, then at least spell it right, not like you to look silly now is it? :lol:

What is one supposed to do? Come round your house? :lol:
Last edited by Roath_Magic_ on Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:27 pm

This whole thread has gone silly

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:28 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:This whole thread has gone silly


My fault Craig. I should know better than feeding the troll.

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:33 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:This whole thread has gone silly


Ian the lying troll has got involved, what else did you expect.

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:35 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:This whole thread has gone silly


Ian the lying troll has got involved, what else did you expect.

For two grown men not to act like children.

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:36 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:This whole thread has gone silly


Ian the lying troll has got involved, what else did you expect.

For two grown men not to act like children.


Completely agree, next time maybe he will think twice before lying.

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:37 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
CraigCCFC wrote:This whole thread has gone silly


Ian the lying troll has got involved, what else did you expect.

For two grown men not to act like children.


Completely agree, next time maybe he will think twice before lying.

TWO grown men.

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:41 pm

CraigCCFC wrote:TWO grown men.


Im doing no different than what you are doing with me right now, replying.

The thread got ruined when someone (ian the troll) joined in order to lie and then say such things as "oooh someone is angry" followed with the likes of "your (sic) a big man".

I am simply telling him he is being a bit of a knobber and he shouldnt lie. Thats a very grown up thing to do id say :thumbup:

However on a brighter note, Jonjo Shelvey has just scored the greatest goal seen at the Liberty :thumbup:

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:33 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
murphy wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Like I said, it is certainly a display of principle - but it is not a protest. I have never suggested violence, ever. We didnt use violence to get petty out - yet didnt passively watch our club go under either..

As for the debt to equity, it will never happen. Think about it, give a reason as to why it would be done and not simply because he said he would... He said that when the debt to him was £30m and he only owned 40%. He now owns 90% and is owed £100m.

It makes no sense.


Protest


That wasnt a protest against Tan. It was a celebration of blue according to the organisers. Any Tan out material was not welcome.

Considering Tan has made it clear you will not be blue under him then its clear that Tan is wanted more than the blue.

Hence why it is not a protest. The fact its been two years and there is still barely a peep says it all.


I was there, you weren't. There was Tan out, anti Tan chants etc. Next?

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:35 pm

I dint need to be there, i know what the protest was designed for and I know what was welcome and what was not.

Well done to the few rogues, but again - it wasnt a protest.

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:36 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:I dint need to be there, i know what the protest was designed for and I know what was welcome and what was not.

Well done to the few rogues, but again - it wasnt a protest.


Couple of 1000 rogues more like, cracking protest it was. Now go and watch your team. :lol:

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:39 pm

:lol: are you claiming a march for something else as a march for Tan out, i think so :D

My team are on my telly right in front of me. Shelvey goal of the season contender :thumbright:

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:47 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:I dint need to be there, i know what the protest was designed for and I know what was welcome and what was not.

Well done to the few rogues, but again - it wasnt a protest.




What does "dint" mean?? :?

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:48 pm

Sven wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:I dint need to be there, i know what the protest was designed for and I know what was welcome and what was not.

Well done to the few rogues, but again - it wasnt a protest.




What does "dint" mean?? :?


Scottish for don't

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:50 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
Sven wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:I dint need to be there, i know what the protest was designed for and I know what was welcome and what was not.

Well done to the few rogues, but again - it wasnt a protest.




What does "dint" mean?? :?


Scottish for don't





:laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:54 pm

protest
noun
noun: protest; plural noun: protests
ˈprəʊtɛst/

1.
a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something


I think that describes the march pretty well

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:57 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
protest
noun
noun: protest; plural noun: protests
ˈprəʊtɛst/

1.
a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something


I think that describes the march pretty well


It was a celebration of blue, that was clear in the organisers key notes. It was not an anti red march.

Not sure why people want to claim it as such, if you are that keen to get blue back then protest for 90 mins at the match. Stay behind and protest.

The fact is Malky got far more of a reaction from the fans than the rebrand, yet the fans want to pretend its the most important thing in the world.... While not rocking the boat too much as they like all the trappings that come with it.

Its ridiculous.

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:59 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
protest
noun
noun: protest; plural noun: protests
ˈprəʊtɛst/

1.
a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something


I think that describes the march pretty well


It was a celebration of blue, that was clear in the organisers key notes. It was not an anti red march.

Not sure why people want to claim it as such, if you are that keen to get blue back then protest for 90 mins at the match. Stay behind and protest.

The fact is Malky got far more of a reaction from the fans than the rebrand, yet the fans want to pretend its the most important thing in the world.... While not rocking the boat too much as they like all the trappings that come with it.

Its ridiculous.


How does marching and brandishing signs with "we want blue not red" etc. not equate to a protest against the rebrand? :?

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:01 pm

Not everybody was brandishing signs, in fact the majority werent.

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:03 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everybody was brandishing signs, in fact the majority werent.


So every single person has to have a sign to claim they are protesting? :lol:

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:08 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everybody was brandishing signs, in fact the majority werent.


So every single person has to have a sign to claim they are protesting? :lol:


No, did i say that then? A trick right out of your dads book is that one. Ask a question and then put your own spin on the answer :laughing6:

If I join a protest about peas being too expensive and me and my mates hold up signs saying WE HATE RED - is that then an anti red protest?

The rhetoric of the march clearly stated that it was not a protest but a celebration of blue, anti red or tan was not welcome.

Therefore it was not an anti tan/red protest and the signs a few held up doesnt change the purpose of the event. If the purpose of the event was anti tan/red then those signs would be in keeping with the theme of the protest and not just some exceptions.

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:11 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everybody was brandishing signs, in fact the majority werent.


So every single person has to have a sign to claim they are protesting? :lol:


No, did i say that then? A trick right out of your dads book is that one. Ask a question and then put your own spin on the answer :laughing6:

If I join a protest about peas being too expensive and me and my mates hold up signs saying WE HATE RED - is that then an anti red protest?

The rhetoric of the march clearly stated that it was not a protest but a celebration of blue, anti red or tan was not welcome.

Therefore it was not an anti tan/red protest and the signs a few held up doesnt change the purpose of the event. If the purpose of the event was anti tan/red then those signs would be in keeping with the theme of the protest and not just some exceptions.


It doesn't have to be anti-tan/tan out to be a protest against the rebrand :lol:

The point of the march was to not only celebrate the blue but also to express our feelings against the rebrand which is achieved by fans signing pro-blue songs and all wearing blue, therefore a protest.

And once again why the need to mention my father it has no relevance to this debate

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:15 pm

londonlegal wrote:And while we keep booing him every game and him with the blue chart he will hurry to do this why?

More likely he will sell the best players, take the parachute payments and walk.


Exactly, and he gets 5 0/0 interest on his loan today.

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:25 pm

He has:

Paid off Langston: NO
Paid off Dave Jones: NO
Paid off Malky Mackay: NO
Turned debt into shares: NO

but he has:

Completed wasted a percentage of the clubs finances with the rebrand: YES
Added around £100 million to the debt: YES

I rest my case #TANOUT :ayatollah:

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:36 pm

Military Junta wrote:He has:

Paid off Langston: NO
Paid off Dave Jones: NO
Paid off Malky Mackay: NO
Turned debt into shares: NO

but he has:

Completed wasted a percentage of the clubs finances with the rebrand: YES
Added around £100 million to the debt: YES

I rest my case #TANOUT :ayatollah:

He has paid off Sam and DJ.
Paying off Malky may not happen.
agree about equity/debt swap

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:37 pm

CjBluebird17 wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everybody was brandishing signs, in fact the majority werent.


So every single person has to have a sign to claim they are protesting? :lol:


No, did i say that then? A trick right out of your dads book is that one. Ask a question and then put your own spin on the answer :laughing6:

If I join a protest about peas being too expensive and me and my mates hold up signs saying WE HATE RED - is that then an anti red protest?

The rhetoric of the march clearly stated that it was not a protest but a celebration of blue, anti red or tan was not welcome.

Therefore it was not an anti tan/red protest and the signs a few held up doesnt change the purpose of the event. If the purpose of the event was anti tan/red then those signs would be in keeping with the theme of the protest and not just some exceptions.


It doesn't have to be anti-tan/tan out to be a protest against the rebrand :lol:

The point of the march was to not only celebrate the blue but also to express our feelings against the rebrand which is achieved by fans signing pro-blue songs and all wearing blue, therefore a protest.

And once again why the need to mention my father it has no relevance to this debate


Your father has everything to do with the debate, if he was never a member here you wouldn't feel the need to engage me in conversation now. Debate is pointless with you guys as you are driven by your vendetta rather than your own point of view or a desire to bring anything to the table.

It was not a protest, you can call it one if you want but it isn't one. If you are celebrating blue and it being a strictly not anti red/tan event then it is not an anti red march.... And thus not a protest.

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:41 pm

Roath_Magic_ wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:
CjBluebird17 wrote:
Roath_Magic_ wrote:Not everybody was brandishing signs, in fact the majority werent.


So every single person has to have a sign to claim they are protesting? :lol:


No, did i say that then? A trick right out of your dads book is that one. Ask a question and then put your own spin on the answer :laughing6:

If I join a protest about peas being too expensive and me and my mates hold up signs saying WE HATE RED - is that then an anti red protest?

The rhetoric of the march clearly stated that it was not a protest but a celebration of blue, anti red or tan was not welcome.

Therefore it was not an anti tan/red protest and the signs a few held up doesnt change the purpose of the event. If the purpose of the event was anti tan/red then those signs would be in keeping with the theme of the protest and not just some exceptions.


It doesn't have to be anti-tan/tan out to be a protest against the rebrand :lol:

The point of the march was to not only celebrate the blue but also to express our feelings against the rebrand which is achieved by fans signing pro-blue songs and all wearing blue, therefore a protest.

And once again why the need to mention my father it has no relevance to this debate


Your father has everything to do with the debate, if he was never a member here you wouldn't feel the need to engage me in conversation now. Debate is pointless with you guys as you are driven by your vendetta rather than your own point of view or a desire to bring anything to the table.

It was not a protest, you can call it one if you want but it isn't one. If you are celebrating blue and it being a strictly not anti red/tan event then it is not an anti red march.... And thus not a protest.


:lol: :lol: Thank you for admitting I am right

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:42 pm

Where did I do that then? :?

Re: ' Vincent Tan needs to start sorting debt out '

Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:47 pm

protest
noun
noun: protest; plural noun: protests
ˈprəʊtɛst/

1.
a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something.


Once again, if fans were marching singing pro-blue songs and showing their feelings towards the rebrand as has been shown by songs, wearing blue and carrying signs, then it agrees with that definition of what a protest is. Therefore, its a protest. There's no way around that.